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[QUOTE=Silver Star;429691]Above does apply for the Miami to EZE flight on Aerolineas Argentinas, domestic will have a dual fare system, international no.[/QUOTE]The fares on Aerolineas Argentinas keep going up thru the roof, it makes even more sense now for executive, VIP and other premium travelers to hire a private executive or VIP car with chauffeur to go directly from EZE to Rosario, Mar del Plata, and cities with similar distances. Saves an airport transfer, possible delay at AEP, no risk of missed connection, and direct, door to door service. Private cars will get you there much faster than a bus, which is speed limited to only about 55MPH. We have been getting a lot of Rosario direct runs from EZE lately. Hassle free, with a private car service, your chauffeur will be waiting for you as you arrive, and you are on your way. Especially makes sense for groups of 3-4 private cars generally price per carload, not per person. For those that are looking for a premium, safe and secure executive and VIP car service here in BsAs, one company is SilverStar Transfers and Tours

Fred.

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[QUOTE=Silver Star; 429692]The fares on Aerolineas Argentinas keep going up thru the roof, it makes even more sense now for executive, VIP and other premium travelers to hire a private executive or VIP car with chauffeur to go directly from EZE to Rosario, Mar del Plata, and cities with similar distances. Saves an airport transfer, possible delay at AEP, no risk of missed connection, and direct, door to door service. Private cars will get you there much faster than a bus, which is speed limited to only about 55MPH. We have been getting a lot of Rosario direct runs from EZE lately. Hassle free, with a private car service, your chauffeur will be waiting for you as you arrive, and you are on your way. Especially makes sense for groups of 3-4 private cars generally price per carload, not per person. For those that are looking for a premium, safe and secure executive and VIP car service here in BsAs, one company is SilverStar Transfers and Tours

Fred.

[url]www.silverstarcar.com[/url]

Serving the needs of Premium Travelers in Buenos Aires since 2009[/QUOTE]The toda la camA (executive) argentine bus service is tough to beat. Way more comfortable than that lousy town car, movies, meals, wine, champagne, gringo bingo, hot stewardess, etc. Most buses are overnight thus who cares if it takes an extra hour or so. Plus, what's your price to Rosario? Corrienties is twice as far and is currently around 600 pesos one way. I am guessing that one way Rosario is around 300 pesos. Your thoughts my expensive gringo pricing friend. Monger on Fred. Toymann

[QUOTE=Toymann;429689]My information is at least 3 to 4 years old but most likely is still accurate. The Argentina airline is a total screw job related to foreigners dude. In the past if the fair was 500 pesos to an argentine citizen, it was sold to a foreigner for 500 usd. Yes, I am not kidding. When you present your documents and they see that you are NOT an argentine the price immediately converts from pesos to dollars straight up! I used to fly to corrienties and terra del feugo for fishing and discovered this program by total accident. I have never flown since and that's why I started taking the bus. I have no experience with international travel just domestic. Hope someone can confirm this, as my information is accurate but old. Hope this helps. Monger on SS. Toymann[/QUOTE]It's not exactly Pesos to Dollars but yo are right in that there is a huge difference. Foreigners pay the price at the top of the scale while Argentines can get any offer that is on the go.

If you fly international on Aerolineas you can get the same prices as Argies get. I suggest people that need to fly a lot inside Argentina to fly internationally into Montevideo and then get Aerolineas (international) to Argentina. Then you get your internal flights at local rates.

[QUOTE=Silver Star; 429692]Fred.

[url]www.silverstarcar.com[/url]

Serving the needs of Premium Travelers in Buenos Aires since 2009[/QUOTE]Fred,

How much do you charge for a 1 way ride from Palermo to a Roasario hotel?

[QUOTE=Toymann;429693]The toda la camA (executive) argentine bus service is tough to beat. Way more comfortable than that lousy town car, movies, meals, wine, champagne, gringo bingo, hot stewardess, etc. Most buses are overnight thus who cares if it takes an extra hour or so. Plus, what's your price to Rosario? Corrienties is twice as far and is currently around 600 pesos one way. I am guessing that one way Rosario is around 300 pesos. Your thoughts my expensive gringo pricing friend. Monger on Fred. Toymann[/QUOTE]Absolutely no way a private car is going to beat the coche cama ejecutiva except maybe in time (and not much there either). The biggest advantage with a car is that you are not restricted to the bus schedules and can make the journey when you want or need to and, of course, pay a small fortune for that advantage.

Even then a van is better and safer. A Mercedes Sprinter can be hired cheaper than multiple cars and can carry up to 8 or 12 passengers depending on the luggage. You from experience know of the dangers with unmarked roadworks on Argentine roads. A high riding van can overcome many obstacles that can destroy a car.

And when you are facing an oncoming 18 wheeler in the wrong lane I'the rather be in a Ejecutivo Bus or at least a big van than in a Crown Vic and I don't even want to start on how a VIP car stands out like a sore thumb on dark roads in the middle of nowhere when the lads are roaming the highways looking for a target to hijack. So security and safety are also questionable selling points.

[QUOTE=Aqualung;429696]You from experience know of the dangers with unmarked roadworks on Argentine roads. A high riding van can overcome many obstacles that can destroy a car.[/QUOTE]I should have taken your advice years ago about the bus. As most North Americans I was thinking Greyhound NOT the argentine bus experience. Even after my first excitement renting a car, I in fact continued to rent cars for at least 3 years more when I travelled north to fish. It was only after making many friends in corrienties that THEY convinced me to try the bus. Never looked back since! In spite of the fact that the bus fares have gone through the roof the past two years I now travel like an argentine. Your point about traveling by bus is spot on! If I hadn't been so hard headed I would have gotten with the program much earlier. Never to old to teach this dog some new tricks. Hope your health is hanging in there dude! Monger on aqualung. Toymann.

Ps. Assuming the good die young, you and I just might live forever. LMAO. Toymann

There is limited train service to Rosario. One a day or some days twice a day from Retiro. First class and up is OK. Sleeper cars too. On board dining etc. Very reasonable prices. I did Cordoba last year for 150 pesos round trip. A few hours more then a bus (4 hours longer to Cordoba if I recall) but then the bus schedules are always optimistic anyway.

Thanks to all for the info. I would be looking at International flights only. I've flown with Aerolineas to Colombia and a few times to Brazil (always booked online with expedia etc) and if I can pay in pesos the flights are cheap like borscht.

[QUOTE=Aqualung;429694]It's not exactly Pesos to Dollars but yo are right in that there is a huge difference. Foreigners pay the price at the top of the scale while Argentines can get any offer that is on the go.[/QUOTE]Not exactly accurate. It's not FOREIGNERS who get ripped, but NON-RESIDENTS.

As a resident I pay the same as the Argentines. And it's generally cheaper to fly than take the bus. Eg. I'm off to Iguazu in a couple of weeks, AR$1050 return with LAN. It's currently AR$1650 return on the bus (for the lay-flat bed option).

[QUOTE=DavieW;429709]It's currently AR$1650 return on the bus (for the lay-flat bed option).[/QUOTE]Jeebus! I just realized the enormity of that bus fare. I remember 5 years ago getting outraged when the fare from Iguazu to BsAs first went over AR$100!

At the time it was about AR$600 to fly (I wasn't a resident then).

[QUOTE=Toymann;429693]The toda la camA (executive) argentine bus service is tough to beat. Way more comfortable than that lousy town car, movies, meals, wine, champagne, gringo bingo, hot stewardess, etc. Most buses are overnight thus who cares if it takes an extra hour or so. Plus, what's your price to Rosario? Corrienties is twice as far and is currently around 600 pesos one way. I am guessing that one way Rosario is around 300 pesos. Your thoughts my expensive gringo pricing friend. Monger on Fred. Toymann[/QUOTE]If you are EZE you will have to transfer to the shady Retiro bus station in the city, then wait for the bus to head out, then bus is speed limited to 90km, with possible stops on the way. With a private car service like ours, you are on the way, and there usually in much less than 4 hours. Time is money. For a fare quote, please contact me directly. We can go 130km, almost 50% faster.

[QUOTE=Member #3320; 429695]Fred,

How much do you charge for a 1 way ride from Palermo to a Roasario hotel?[/QUOTE]Please contact me directly for a fare quote.

[QUOTE=Aqualung; 429696]Absolutely no way a private car is going to beat the coche cama ejecutiva except maybe in time (and not much there either). The biggest advantage with a car is that you are not restricted to the bus schedules and can make the journey when you want or need to and, of course, pay a small fortune for that advantage.

Even then a van is better and safer. A Mercedes Sprinter can be hired cheaper than multiple cars and can carry up to 8 or 12 passengers depending on the luggage. You from experience know of the dangers with unmarked roadworks on Argentine roads. A high riding van can overcome many obstacles that can destroy a car.

And when you are facing an oncoming 18 wheeler in the wrong lane I'the rather be in a Ejecutivo Bus or at least a big van than in a Crown Vic and I don't even want to start on how a VIP car stands out like a sore thumb on dark roads in the middle of nowhere when the lads are roaming the highways looking for a target to hijack. So security and safety are also questionable selling points.[/QUOTE]Never have had any security issues in 4 years. The route to Rosario is all highway, no vans will be coming the other way, and Mercedes Sprinter Vans are limted to 90KM / hr. Town Car can legally do 130km, making us an excellent choice for the executive traveller. (Time is money)

I was at the airport last night and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed the followiing:

A lack of people flying (the airport was almost empty)

Increased police presence (or maybe I did not notice so many before because there was more people)

More police in flak vests!

[QUOTE=Gandolf50; 429740]I was at the airport last night and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed the followiing:

A lack of people flying (the airport was almost empty)

Increased police presence (or maybe I did not notice so many before because there was more people)

More police in flak vests![/QUOTE]I am a professional chauffeur here, so I'm at EZE all the time. Without a doubt there is less foot traffic, and more dollar and euro sniffing dogs.

I noticed the same thing when I left in early November. Not nearly the crowd I am use to seeing checking in and going through customs. Now there were lots of folks lined up at American and United but not much anywhere else.

Fred, since when did they waste the time training dogs to sniff currency? Is that even possible? Drugs and explosives have unique scents but money is handled by many people and placed in many places on the body, remember that twenty you gave to the topless dancer? So what's up with this comment?

I think the money sniffing dogs is all B. S. Some one said they can smell the ink. But for how long? Plus as Mr Doppleganger pointed out, with so many people handling the bills? I think they are there so they can get a reaction out of people. They look for people who are scared of the dogs. I was also surprised at the amount of police wearing vests. Not normal here.

The money-sniffing dogs are not the concern; the PSA (Policia Seguridad Aeroportario) and the Prefecto Naval have been using money-sensing handheld scanners at both the AEP, EZE and Buquebus terminals.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;429766]The money-sniffing dogs are not the concern; the PSA (Policia Seguridad Aeroportario) and the Prefecto Naval have been using money-sensing handheld scanners at both the AEP, EZE and Buquebus terminals.[/QUOTE]Again, how would something like that work? In the US they put metal strips in the dollars for a while so that they could detect large wads, but something went wrong and they canned that. I really doubt they have anything here that senses money. (or anywhere for that matter) I just think they watch peoples faces when the dogs or "detectors" are close by. Scared or nervouse people are pulled aside for a search.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;429766]The money-sniffing dogs are not the concern; the PSA (Policia Seguridad Aeroportario) and the Prefecto Naval have been using money-sensing handheld scanners at both the AEP, EZE and Buquebus terminals.[/QUOTE]I know I am just one traveler but I always come through EZE with damn close but just under 10k. My corrienties buddies told me long ago that the dog sniffing plata story was just that, a story! Just curious in your speculation. Monger on dude. Toymann

[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 429761]I noticed the same thing when I left in early November. Not nearly the crowd I am use to seeing checking in and going through customs. Now there were lots of folks lined up at American and United but not much anywhere else.

Fred, since when did they waste the time training dogs to sniff currency? Is that even possible? Drugs and explosives have unique scents but money is handled by many people and placed in many places on the body, remember that twenty you gave to the topless dancer? So what's up with this comment?[/QUOTE]They absolutely have trained dogs to smell USD and Euro, and there have been busts, Argentines are taking money out of the country in droves, there have been articles about this in the papers, etc. See them all the time at EZE.

[QUOTE=Gandolf50;429770]Again, how would something like that work? In the US they put metal strips in the dollars for a while so that they could detect large wads, but something went wrong and they canned that. I really doubt they have anything here that senses money. (or anywhere for that matter) I just think they watch peoples faces when the dogs or "detectors" are close by. Scared or nervouse people are pulled aside for a search.[/QUOTE]If a dog can be trained to sniff out blow, grass, meth, etc, it can surely be trained to sniff out nasty fucking bills! The vast majority of you$the having traces of blow on them. Dog stuck his nose in my crotch and got frisky, I just said that I had just left the gym and did not shower.

Take. 5mg of Valium before you go through customs and you will be in like Flint! Nobody will notice because you will be super mellow.

TL

[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 429761]I noticed the same thing when I left in early November. Not nearly the crowd I am use to seeing checking in and going through customs. Now there were lots of folks lined up at American and United but not much anywhere else.

Fred, since when did they waste the time training dogs to sniff currency? Is that even possible? Drugs and explosives have unique scents but money is handled by many people and placed in many places on the body, remember that twenty you gave to the topless dancer? So what's up with this comment?[/QUOTE]Started abut 6 months ago, when they teally ramped up the currency controls.

[QUOTE=Toymann;429771]I know I am just one traveler but I always come through EZE with damn close but just under 10k. My corrienties buddies told me long ago that the dog sniffing plata story was just that, a story! Just curious in your speculation. Monger on dude. Toymann[/QUOTE]Well, first of all, the issue is NOT entering Argentina. The Argentine government is not in the least bit concerned about anybody bringing in excess currency and make no effort to control the ENTRANCE of currency. Their concern is CAPITAL FLIGHT, so they have implemented all sorts of measures to stop the EXIT of currency. As for the dogs, they are used primarily to sniff cars / luggage at border checkpoints such as Buquebus terminal and the international bridges that go over the Rio Uruguay. Argentines have been seen this economic song and dance before and have been doing everything possible to get their money out of this country before the "music stops" so to speak. As for the handheld scanner at the Buquebus terminal, my personal experience is that I walked through the metal detector without setting off any bells and whistles; the Prefectura Naval officers then used a handheld scanner on me and the minute they passed over the wad of $9950 USD I had in the inside jacket pocket the handheld scanner went off and the officer asked me if I had cash on me. I said I did, they brought me aside to talk to a superior officer, and I took out the money, told him how much it was, and he advised me not to lie to him as he was going to make me take all my clothes off and do a thorough search. I told him I know the law and that I was under the limit and he said ok and I was on my way.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;429777]Well, first of all, the issue is NOT entering Argentina. The Argentine government is not in the least bit concerned about anybody bringing in excess currency and make no effort to control the ENTRANCE of currency. Their concern is CAPITAL FLIGHT, so they have implemented all sorts of measures to stop the EXIT of currency. As for the dogs, they are used primarily to sniff cars / luggage at border checkpoints such as Buquebus terminal and the international bridges that go over the Rio Uruguay. Argentines have been seen this economic song and dance before and have been doing everything possible to get their money out of this country before the "music stops" so to speak. As for the handheld scanner at the Buquebus terminal, my personal experience is that I walked through the metal detector without setting off any bells and whistles; the Prefectura Naval officers then used a handheld scanner on me and the minute they passed over the wad of $9950 USD I had in the inside jacket pocket the handheld scanner went off and the officer asked me if I had cash on me. I said I did, they brought me aside to talk to a superior officer, and I took out the money, told him how much it was, and he advised me not to lie to him as he was going to make me take all my clothes off and do a thorough search. I told him I know the law and that I was under the limit and he said ok and I was on my way.[/QUOTE]Excellent post. If I ever get pulled I will use the same response. Monger on dude. Toymann

P. your post makes total sense!

You'd be surprised how efficient those dogs are. I saw the first ones being trained at the Federal Police dog school some time back. Originally they were to be used in investigating money laundering operations. Of course, they aren't going to smell out a dollar bill hidden in your shoe but bigger stashes have quite a distinct smell. One of the reasons, as I mentioned before, cuevas try only to buy US$ 100 bills. A million dollars in twenties is five times the size of a million in hundreds.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;429777]Well, first of all, the issue is NOT entering Argentina. The Argentine government is not in the least bit concerned about anybody bringing in excess currency and make no effort to control the ENTRANCE of currency. Their concern is CAPITAL FLIGHT, so they have implemented all sorts of measures to stop the EXIT of currency. As for the dogs, they are used primarily to sniff cars / luggage at border checkpoints such as Buquebus terminal and the international bridges that go over the Rio Uruguay. Argentines have been seen this economic song and dance before and have been doing everything possible to get their money out of this country before the "music stops" so to speak. As for the handheld scanner at the Buquebus terminal, my personal experience is that I walked through the metal detector without setting off any bells and whistles; the Prefectura Naval officers then used a handheld scanner on me and the minute they passed over the wad of $9950 USD I had in the inside jacket pocket the handheld scanner went off and the officer asked me if I had cash on me. I said I did, they brought me aside to talk to a superior officer, and I took out the money, told him how much it was, and he advised me not to lie to him as he was going to make me take all my clothes off and do a thorough search. I told him I know the law and that I was under the limit and he said ok and I was on my way.[/QUOTE]Entering Argentina. For what it's worth, I entered via EZE last aug with considerably more than 10k in cash. No one searched or asked me anything until I asked to declare the money via customs. Had done same on USA side for exiting with 10k+ and no issue. At EZE they were astounded I was declaring and took awhile to find and dig out the customs guy. They didn't count but asked me why I was bringing in more than 10k and told them because as they know all gringo rent is in cash and dollars and would be in arg for at least 6 months. The rest was for chicas and boliches.

After the form was registered, they hung out talking with me about what boliches I like best and what the top shelf chicas charge. Pretty damn friendly really.

At buquebus. Oddly enough not checked at all coming back with about 3k in USD cash but on puerto madero side entering the terminal I was scanned and guard opened my small belt pouch. Had about 1k USD as emergency cash in case got stuck in colonia with ATMs not working. Guard actually counted bills and asked me lot of hostile questions why I was taking 1k to uruguay. Told him the just in case I stay day or two and ATMs not working but was really hostile and kept insisting I provide better reason. Eventually let me pass but seems he was just looking for excuse to hassle me for taking any USD out

[QUOTE=Mpexy; 429837]Entering Argentina. For what it's worth, I entered via EZE last aug with considerably more than 10k in cash. No one searched or asked me anything until I asked to declare the money via customs. Had done same on USA side for exiting with 10k+ and no issue. At EZE they were astounded I was declaring and took awhile to find and dig out the customs guy. They didn't count but asked me why I was bringing in more than 10k and told them because as they know all gringo rent is in cash and dollars and would be in arg for at least 6 months. The rest was for chicas and boliches.

After the form was registered, they hung out talking with me about what boliches I like best and what the top shelf chicas charge. Pretty damn friendly really.

At buquebus. Oddly enough not checked at all coming back with about 3k in USD cash but on puerto madero side entering the terminal I was scanned and guard opened my small belt pouch. Had about 1k USD as emergency cash in case got stuck in colonia with ATMs not working. Guard actually counted bills and asked me lot of hostile questions why I was taking 1k to uruguay. Told him the just in case I stay day or two and ATMs not working but was really hostile and kept insisting I provide better reason. Eventually let me pass but seems he was just looking for excuse to hassle me for taking any USD out[/QUOTE]In general the problem is with taking out US$ from the country. Bringing them in is no problem. On the contrary! They need as many $$$ as they can get their greedy hands on as they have almost run out. One of the reasons they don't have $$$ is because they unloaded tons of them on the market during years to keep the exchange rate down. Anyhow, that is for another thread.

Usually the guys at Ezeiza are quite decent as long as you come out straight with them but the fuckers at Buquebus (Prefectura Naval) are the biggest pain in the ass you can imagine. Power thirsty assholes!

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz; 430110]In the last 11 years I've brought enough electronics here to start a small store. I don't bring boxes, just the item, no matter what it is or how many I have I say they are for me. I have had my luggage opened a couple times (when you have a computer in one bag and the keyboard and monitor in another, it's going to show on the XRAY) but I mumbled the first couple line of God Bless America and just stumbled through.

One tip, if you get selected for screening look for the machine with the HOTTEST chick. Then choose the machine to either side of her. There is ZERO chance the chabone on your machine will be watching his screen and not the tits, ass, legs, face of the girl next door.[/QUOTE]Great post! By the way EZE seems totally DEAD, compared to LY. Could be a buyers market this season, TM, please take note

For negotiation purposes. Hardly anyone in arrivals hall during peak arrival time in AM. Last year I would be getting bumped into left into right it was so crowded, TY, it's wide open.

[QUOTE=Silver Star; 430113]Great post! By the way EZE seems totally DEAD, compared to LY. Could be a buyers market this season, TM, please take note

For negotiation purposes. Hardly anyone in arrivals hall during peak arrival time in AM. Last year I would be getting bumped into left into right it was so crowded, TY, it's wide open.[/QUOTE]Left yesterday, empty. Plane to MIA half empty.

[QUOTE=Santa;430124]Left yesterday, empty. Plane to MIA half empty.[/QUOTE]I traveled to Bs As approximately 30 times, during 2007-2011. Not once. On any of those trips, did I ever encounter a flight in or out of EZE that wasn't full or nearly full. Almost every flight out of JFK to EZE was over-sold and typical coach fares rarely, if ever dipped below US $1,000 (breifly in 2007) and business class were US $3,500-7,000. Airfare was always the most expensive part of the trip.

I figured that the economy would eventually catch up to this phenomenon. At least some of those Argie travelers have to have their incomes and savings denominated in pesos. So a $1,000 round trip in 2007 now costs the equivalent of $2,600. $3,600 (depending upon whose inflation figures you believe). That has to had some sort of impact on demand. I am surprised that JFK. EZE prices haven't dropped precipitously. AA still runs US $1,300 for a 30-day advanced purchase coach round trip. Of course, this is the same company that kept a 767 on this route when they were turning passengers away in droves.

Flew out from EZE to MIA on AA 1.5 weeks ago, plane was half empty. Will find out in a few days what its like going back the other way.

Last year I flew twice US to BA first class using 120,000 miles each time. Now they want 200,000 miles for a business class ticket and 250,000 miles for first class. Right now there is a deal where you can buy 90,000 miles for $1750 which is only really good at last year's mileage rates.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;432236]Last year I flew twice US to BA first class using 120,000 miles each time. Now they want 200,000 miles for a business class ticket and 250,000 miles for first class. Right now there is a deal where you can buy 90,000 miles for $1750 which is only really good at last year's mileage rates.[/QUOTE]You are correct BBM, but this only applies if you don't book within about 5 months I think. AA lets you book frequent flyer travel 331 days in advance. I have flown them for years. I have found that you can get 40,000 mile return flights in coach as long as you are booking around 290 to 331 days in advance. 100,000 mile return business class tickets are available easily from approximately 180 to 331 days in advance. You can also upgrade your coach ticket one way to first class with 25,000 miles and 350 buck, right up to departure time if they have an open business seat. Hope this helps. Monger on boys. Toymann.

American hasn't changed their reward chart. The issue you are seeing is that there are two levels in the award chart for business / first with the MileSAAver award level still at 100/125 for a business / first round trip. AAnytime awards are not capacity controlled and have always been double number the number of miles. In general, I've found better much better business / first award availability on AA to BA than on United. 90 K for $1750 is an OK but not great deal and I wouldn't do it unless I had already confirmed award availability for the dates I wanted. If you just want to add miles to your account, you are better off working the credit card bonuses.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;432236]Last year I flew twice US to BA first class using 120,000 miles each time. Now they want 200,000 miles for a business class ticket and 250,000 miles for first class. Right now there is a deal where you can buy 90,000 miles for $1750 which is only really good at last year's mileage rates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sidney;432239]Usually, AA is very cheap to SDQ, POP, MIA, ORD, MSP. Mostly, UAL and DAL are very high! You must search often. I always fly coach, unlike the big spenders.[/QUOTE]Damn Sidney, surprised you do not buy all your airline tickets in Buenos Aires. Exchange your dollars at the blue rate and pay for the ticket at the official rate: cash in pesos. Savings is substantial. Better get on this band wagon before it quits playing.

[QUOTE=EasyGo;432238]American hasn't changed their reward chart. The issue you are seeing is that there are two levels in the award chart for business / first with the MileSAAver award level still at 100/125 for a business / first round trip. AAnytime awards are not capacity controlled and have always been double number the number of miles. In general, I've found better much better business / first award availability on AA to BA than on United. 90 K for $1750 is an OK but not great deal and I wouldn't do it unless I had already confirmed award availability for the dates I wanted. If you just want to add miles to your account, you are better off working the credit card bonuses.[/QUOTE]Except I was looking at November to use the miles this morning and the only thing they offered was anytime miles. Current fare is $3050 for business class and $4100 for first class. So 3050/200000 is only 1.5 cents a mile. Last year I got a 7000/125000 or 5.6 cents a mile seat. When I looked at it and the there is not one sold seat for the days I want to travel.

Also the 90,000 miles for $1700 offer is not available now but it will come up again.

Ever notice that some of the richest guys on the board are among the tightest. There must be a lesson in there somewhere that I failed to learn. LOL.

Mongers-.

Looks like this gravy train is coming to a screeching halt:

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