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Buenos Aires dairy...eat your heart out Saint!!!
When Moondog is in town he usually sets up a dinner with other visiting hombres,and Adriana the Webmistress for Platynum and various other sites. Several weeks ago Dog and Adriana made reservations at Estilo Campo, a restaurant in Puerto Madero not far from Adriana s office.
Two weeks before the dinnner.
I like to make plans well in advance. So I had phoned a new amiga, Eliana, from the United States several weeks ago to set up a date for toda la noche. She told me her birthday was the night before, so we could continue the celebration. Bueno, I thought, this could be fun...
Thursday before the Friday night dinner
I phone Elians on Thursday to wish her happy birthday and to confirm our date....Her mother and sister were in town from Mendoza she informed me, so Friday was out....No problem, I thought...
I phone my ex favorita with whom I had spoken earlier in the week. She had told me she wanted to see me and talk about things. Without hesitation She accepted my offer to go out to
dinner and talk afterward....bueno.....
3 pm Friday, the day of the dinner
Just to be sure I phoned my ex favorita again at 3PM to confirm...no es posible, she informed me. Sick child. One of my ex s less enduring qualities is her lack of consideration for others...so had I not called she probably would have simply stood me up....no problem, I thought,
I have a short list of phone numbers from girls I want to see for the first or second time....no luck reaching any of the three, but I left two phone messages...something will turn up, I thought...
Friday 4 pm
Meanwhile, I headed over to Cafe Orleans at 4 PM to meet a group of hombres and check out possible dates....I met several nice guys, but the one chica I found attractive was already booked with Moondog for the evening....
Friday 6 pm
So, back to the hotel to try the chicas on my short list one more time....no luck....so at 6 I head to Cutty Sark, on of the few chica bars open early...no chicas, none, are at work....Julio, the bartender, just shrugs, and says maybe later....
Friday 8 pm
I go back to the hotel and take a nap....at 10 till 8 I still have not heard from the chicas with whom I have left a message, so I head back to Cutty Sark....determined to grab the first cute chica who shows up.....
4 girls have come on duty....10 guys are sitting in the bar...and not one of them is in a hurry to buy a drink for the 4 available girls, which should tell you something about their looks....none better than a 6, and that is with a very generous curve......
I sip my Cuba Libre and wait...dinner is at 8 30...it is now 8 15....and the restaurant is about a 10 minute cab ride away.....looks like my luck is running out, I am thinking while anxiously watching the door in the hope that the girl of my dreams will walk in....
At 8 40 Celeste saunters in...slim, youngish, girl next door type in her early 20s....just my type....not exactly the girl of my dreams, but she will do....what follows is the fastest pick up in the long and storied history of Cutty Sark....she walks by, still dressed in her street clothes...I stop her and ask her to share a drink with me...one drink is required, or <i would simply have grabbed her hand and said come on baby, we are going.....
Hi my name is ezy I tell her...Soy Celeste, she replies prepared to settle in for a get acquainted chat while I decide If I want to take her out for the evening....She must have been surprised when I said..that s nice, look I don t have time for much chit chat...I am late for a fiesta and want you to go with me as my date....I don t have time to negotiate...300 pesos, TLN, si or no....por supesto she says, and we head for the door...as we are leaving Gisella, one of my exs good friends walks in .....as I pass her I say...no soy un perro, es la culpa de su amiga...I am no dog, it is the fault of your girl friend that I am here frantically searching for a date....she busts out laughing....
Friday 9 pm. Celeste and I arrive about half an hour late...whew....Moondog asks how long we have known each other...5 minutes, I respond....a slight exaggeration since by this time I have know celeste for a good 17 minutes...good dinner, but Celeste worries me slightly when she tells me she is a good Catholoic with valores and is only doing this cause she needs the money...I ask if she can forget she is a good girl for this one night....her response is a sly grin.... we discuss my flight, and she tells me one of her fantasias is el sexo in the bathroom of a plane...Surprise, thats one of my fantasies too...and I add I also like to idea of el sexo in an elevator...turns out this is one of her other fantaises as well...As we are nearing time to leave, SF ******, seated to my left whispers that he has dropped his viagra on the floor and wonders if he can borrow some of mine. I have a 100mg tablet handy, so I place it on the table and cut it in half...my half goes sailing across the table and lands in the sauce surrounding my pink salmon....SF ****** grins as <i fish mine out of the sauce....
When I feel the effects of my viagra starting to kick in...I give Moondog enough pesos to cover my share of the dinner....and Celeste and I head back to Howard Johnsons....on the way she tells me she likes the idea of sex in a taxi tambien....and strokes me in just the right spot....we arrive at the hotel and while we did not have sex as Bill Clinton defines sex (blow jobs are not sex according to Bill) we did have a very nice ride to the 11th floor, with Celeste on her knees in front of me performing what felt like a sex act, regardless of what Bill says...
Celeste does a slow strip for me once we arrive in the room, followed by a very nice session
.....Celeste falls asleep and wakes with a start at 7....an hour after she told her ninera she would return...so a couple of quick photos and she is out the door.....and I have added a new phone number to my short list....
Sometimes when plans fall apart, what follows is a nice substitute.....
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DownBA
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Justgotback
How is your spanish? Places like Nuevo Estilo Boliche, you need to have some elementary command of spanish. That is a real local place and the girls hardly speak any english. In other clubs, you should start asking her name. I always enquire whether she is with somebody already. Otherwise, I offer her a drink, and things gets rolling from here. One thing, if it is too early in the evening, like 11:30 AM, you may not be successful to score with your lower bid. I tried to hit the club around 1 AM and started dealing around 2 AM and close the deal by 3 AM. I always try to stay in one club for the entire night as opposed to bar hopping. By 3 AM, panick sets in among both parties. Even in Black, I was propositioned by Claudia and Ivana, two Brazilian beauties, for a threesome around 3:30 AM. Ivana was the aggressive one who was detailing all the moves they will do to each other and on me. Claudia, having talked to me earlier that night, was feeling very shy. I expressed my surprise about her lesbianism and respectfully declined their offer saying that I got only one instrument and had I got a spare one I would have definitely been interested. In this game, you got to be aggressive. If one refuses, go to the next one. There are plenty of them you will be happy to go home with. Hope it helps.
Bandy
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Jodomas:
The suit I ordered in December 2001 was ready in less than 24 hours. The shirt I bougth didn't need to be tailored, but I know they make customized shirts. Usually, these places have 2 or 3 attendants idle, so when you go in you are the only customer. Thus, I understand why they prepare the orders so fast.
Andres
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Guys:
I don't recommend to walk from Juramento subway stop to Nuevo Estilo, at least not along La Pampa St. The park may be dangerous, so it's easy to be mugged.
A cab should be a few bucks from the subway stop. However, if in mood of walking, I would do so along Juramento or Sucre streets (parallel to and north of La Pampa St).
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Ezy,
Way to go amigo! Sounds like you're having fun. I wish you were still in town when I arrive next week. I would have loved to have shared some laughs with you. Oh well. I'm sure we'll talk more via emails and phone as always. Have fun and save some chicas for me!
Saint
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Justgotback,
You are absolutely right. In beauty scale, Violeta could be somewhere between 6 or 7. She is nowhere in the league of Andrea (Madaho) or Jovana (Black) regarding look. Also, the session was very ordinary. What made the experience memorable that she offered me to show around BA to make up for the lost time. These girls are ready to run once they get their money. Instead she was willing to somehow keep her end of the bargain. I always get attracted with educated girls. I feel quality of the level of conversations improve tremendously. And I am always a sucker for the total experience, where bedroom adventures play a secondary role. If I gave you an idea that Violeta was a beauty, I am sorry. The perfect 10, at Madaho is Andrea, go for her. You won't be sorry.
Bandy
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Hey Boys--
I spent three crazy weeks in Thailand (mainly Bangkok) and on December 13th, I am flying to BA to look for an apartment to purchase. (Recoleta or Palermo)
See my post on the Bangkok board--I was pretty shocked at how amazing the scene is there. It sort of blows BA away in certain respects. Still, however, I much prefer the idea of living in Argentina long term.
If any mongers are in BA around Dec 13th, lemme know via this board and we'll connect.
Also--if anyone is curious about the mongering scene in Bangkok (insofar as how it compares to BA, by all means, feel free to ask me any questions).
My BA count down is 20 days!
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I rode out on the subway earlier that day to see how far away it was from Estilo. It was walkable, but I was a little concerned about doing it in the middle of the night. I might just take a taxi from the station as someone suggested.
Does anyone know when Estilo opens? I fly out Monday night and Iīm wondering if I can get some late afternoon action there?
My spanish is so so at best. I can speak enough to order at restrauants and negoitiate at clubs. But during the after session hour long converstations. I mainly just say Ļsi si buenoĻ.
I checked out Newport last night after I posted. Nothing to write home about. I was looking for Fabiona. The first time I was here she worked at Affaire, but the last time I was here I found her at Newport. Sadly, she wasnīt there last night.
I think Iīll go back to Madaho tonight. If thatīs a wash Iīll go out to Estilo again and be more aggressive.
I found a little tiny out of the way tailor thatīs selling Givency suits for 240 pesos. Theyīre probably fakes.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DownBA
[i]Justgotback,
either walk or take a cab from there. The Subte's really a great way to get around once you figure it out and if you think the cabs are cheap right now wait til you see how much cheaper the Subte is. [/i][/QUOTE]
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LA Larry
Just read your post RE: Bangkok.
You know I've been to Pattaya and Phuket many times, never Bangkok though.
All I can say is that Thai women have nothing on Argentian women. I want to keep this civil as I can, but that is my IHMO.
LOL.
It like comparing a Yugo to a Porche.
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Amazing tales of Saints and Sinners in BA - Part One
I've read the press about the kidnappings and street crime in Buenos Aires but so far I haven't experienced either in the week I have been mongering in BA.
I travel with some little very expensive by Argentine standards electronics, such as an Apple IPod and Canon digital camera, both worth about $300....and I have a more expensive and considerably larger laptop computer. All are kept in my room.
At the Hotel Etoile where I stay I like to show off the IPod with 1,000 songs and take some digital photos, usually before intimacy with the chica to break the ice and enjoy their wonder at seeing these marvellous devices. The result is I suspect a more GFE.
So far none of them have stolen anything but I am very careful what chica I take to my hotel with my possessions . I play it safe. if I have any qualms about a chica I take her to a 30 pesos short term (love) hotel, which are all over mongerlia.
Last night a group of mongers had dinner together in Puerto Madera, then separately went out into the night on the hunt. My posse of four, lead by Monger guide and chica wrangler ended up at a little known haunt for locals in Palermo Crocodile at 3:30
Crocodile is an after hours club, that starts to fill up at 4am chica time when the other clubs close. The stays open until 8am, when it is light outside. The Crocodile is where the chicas come that haven't got lucky at the other clubs, looking for a last ditch chance. Prices can go low accordingly, and Argentine mongers have been known to leave with a 7 or 8 for a mere 50 pesos (around $14US).
But be careful....the club is very crowded and some chicas press Mongers to the wall, grind crotch to crotch throwing the unsuspecting monger off-balance, then dip into pockets for a wallet. I was walking by a chica, a small innocent looking one of no more than five feet, when I felt two slim dexterous fingers in my pocket. Since my wallet is attached with a string to my belt (a money belt filled with ...well...folded bills) I wan't worried and gently removed the preying finger, scolding the wayward chica for her futile attempt.
I left Crocodile at 7am alone last night, since I didn't see anyone up to my standards.
(to be continued)
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Amazing tales of Saints and Sinners in BA - Part Two
The next day I ran into Fat Bastard and BA Robert, feasting on a five dollar lunch of mad cow and seemingly suffering the early symptoms of hoof and mouth disease.
I immediately ordered chicken to save myself a similar fate when Fat Bastard's cellphone rung, After chatting on the phone with another monger Donald, whom we met at the dinner the night before Fat Bastard related that Donald was now $1,300 poorer, not a large amount stateside but enough in Buenos Aires to spend quality time with 26 chicas!
This is unconfirmed and we all await further developments but apparently he had rented a private apartment to entertain a chica that evening. The chica appeared to be in the saint category except for some noctural moral lapses but the maid "possibly" cut from a different cloth. in the morning he went to check his stash of Franklin's in the kitchen and withdraw a small sum from his make shift bank. Upon returning he was $1,300 poorer, apparantly the maid had cleaned him out.
A bit shaken from this revelation, the first account so far of a monger victimized.
Upon retuning to my room at the Hotel Etoile I opened the door to find two maids and several of the front desk staff in the bedroom of my suite. One held a Franklin in his hand, and another pointed to three Franklins on the floor beside my bed.
I put "most" of my cash in the hotel safe box in the lobby but one day i forgot to put $400 in the box, so hide it under a table beside my bed. Apparently the maid had lifted up the table to clean beneath and discovered my hidden treasure. She immediately called down to the front desk, to inform them of her discovery and they had arrived to safely remove the money and return it to me.
Maids in Argentina make about $150 a month, about as much as a chica makes in two nights. Say no more, in this tale of Saints and Sinners.
I look forward to leaving a far larger tip then usual for the saints and angels that clean my room and watch over me at the Etoile while I go out in the night to monger until dawn.
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Justgotback, An Argentinian guy sitting next to me on the plane ride home told me Estilo Nuevo Boliche is apparently open as early as 4 PM....I didn't know this as I usually went there at 11 PM or later and always found nice talent. Remember not to by shy, these chicas won't bite you, er, well, they might bite you a little if you like that sort of thing. In the daytime I wouldn't hesitate to walk from the train station although it's probably a good two miles, at night I wouldn't risk it. But remember that you can also take one of the Colectivo Busses down Libertador and get off at La Pampa and then the walk to Estilo is maybe 1/2 mile at most. But hey, from la Recoleta the cab ride might cost 10 pesos tops or U$2 and change, not too bad. I could really get used to this lifestyle. DownBA
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LA Larry
[i]Hey Boys--
I spent three crazy weeks in Thailand (mainly Bangkok) and on December 13th, I am flying to BA to look for an apartment to purchase. (Recoleta or Palermo)
See my post on the Bangkok board--I was pretty shocked at how amazing the scene is there. It sort of blows BA away in certain respects. Still, however, I much prefer the idea of living in Argentina long term.
If any mongers are in BA around Dec 13th, lemme know via this board and we'll connect.
Also--if anyone is curious about the mongering scene in Bangkok (insofar as how it compares to BA, by all means, feel free to ask me any questions).
My BA count down is 20 days! [/i][/QUOTE]
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"If you have never been to BBK then I heartily recommend it to all mongers. I can't believe that I am saying it--but BBK beats Buenos Aires for the sheer expereince. " - LA Larry, from the BBK forum....
What's up with LA Larry? Has he gone MAD!!!! How can he dare to compare BBK favorably with Buenos Aires??????
He is so wrong and misguided. I'm sure he will repent in 21 days!!!!
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Great tales jamesbond69. Yes, there are truly some "saints" in Buenos Aires to look over us. I've found the people of Buenos Aires to be very honest. Even a girl from Black's one day saw that my friend dropped 200 pesos and gave them to him.
LA Larry. I didn't read your Bankok report and probably won't. I have zero interest in Asian women. It's all a matter of personal taste. If I had the choice to pay for a $1000 ticket to BA, $75 US a night in hotels or someone offering a free flight and hotel in BBK, I'd still choose to go to Buenos Aires.
Sometimes more is really more.......
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Saint, having been to Bangkok I agree with your assessment. Well if it was free .... BA is still great, but since the quality has dropped from a few months ago. Iīm lowering it from 2nd to 4th on my personal list and itīs quickly headed toward 5th.
Jamesbond, I think you were the guy with the loose franklins at Etoile. Each Etoile room has a safe. Itīs that metal box in the closet that looks broken. Itīs just missing the lock. I didnīt realize this my first couple of times, but all you have to do is go downstairs and theyīll give you the lock for it. Just keep your valuables in there. Having said that, I personally have not had any problems at Etoile. I used to leave my money, passport, etc just sitting in a drawer. I trust the staff there.
Whereīs this crocidile club?
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This is a great board. I read a lot and learned a lot. Thanks.
Just came back from a great trip to BA, my first as a monger. I met another poster the first night, which helped, thanks DMOHIO. My Spanish is decent, but it helps to have
My hotel - Hotel Dolmen, was 1-1/2 blocks from the clubs on Suipacha (Hook, Ness, & Catttos). I reserved thru Mayri at arentinogo.com. She was VERY helpful.
Hotel Dolmen, Suipacha, just off Sante Fe - US$50 per nite, tax included, buffet breakfast, 4 dinner vouchers for 2, pool, gym, sauna, 24 hour free internet off the lobby. Discrete & chica friendly (but only 1 at a time)!
I've been to Costa Rica many times and love the women there. But the BA women have totally blown my mind. They are classy, elegant, etc. . . . I guess you guys know that.
Went to Hook, Ness, & Catttos. Good luck in all 3. Drink costs are reasonable. Hook had a lot of women the night I was there.
In Recoleta, I liked Madaho's best. But all the clubs work at some level, or just move on.
I met EZY my last night. We tried several downtown clubs (not on Suipacha), fun night, but somehow we ended up at Afaire in Recoleta.
EZY, that last girl I was talking to, Marcela, was begging me to take her home for 100P. I was hesitating as you left, but she talked me into it. OK face, but tiny body (my favorite), no boobs, lots of energy. I took some photo's on Wed. She's getting a boob job Monday. She'll be back in action Thursday (she says - I don't think so). Then she's going to Reyonsa, Mexico (Texas border town) to make more money.
As my trip was coming to a close, United offered more great fares ORD-EZE. So I booked another trip. I'll be home 5 days and then try to do even better.
I arrive Wed, Nov 27, and would like to hook up with others. I'd like to try some internet contacts or other afternoon options. Email me at danmccarthy99@hotmail.com to compare notes or search for more adventures.
Again, thanks for all the great advice.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by justgotback
[i]
Jamesbond, I think you were the guy with the loose franklins at Etoile. Each Etoile room has a safe. Itīs that metal box in the closet that looks broken. Itīs just missing the lock. I didnīt realize this my first couple of times, but all you have to do is go downstairs and theyīll give you the lock for it. Just keep your valuables in there. Having said that, I personally have not had any problems at Etoile. I used to leave my money, passport, etc just sitting in a drawer. I trust the staff there.
Whereīs this crocidile club? [/i][/QUOTE]
I'll post info and address of the Crocodile Club in a later post, and other of my discoveries of the estimated 100 chica clubs in BA. For now let's just say that I regard the Crocodile Club as a complete waste of valuable Monger time.
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I knows most rooms in the Etoile have in room safes but some of the Diplomatic suites don't have in safe in the room, such as the Diplomatic Suite I am staying in. I left all my valuables in the safe in the lobby except for four Franklins, which I hide for the night in the room. I didn't count on the maid doing such a good job cleaning that she would lift up the furniture and discover my stash....but as I said the hotel staff is as honest as they come and I didn't lose a penny.
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BA MONGER TIP #1 - How not to sleep with someone's mother.
Probably the majority of the chicas are single mothers. I personally have a problem with having sex with someone's mother; other mongers feel the same way while some (most) could care less. A few will even mount a sheep if it doesn't cost them too much and certainly if the sheep doesn't charge.
If this is a problem for you I recommend that you look around the necks of the chicas. In Argentina (and maybe other places) a chica with a child will wear a gold necklace that has a small charm for each of her children with their name(s). I was about to make the move on a chica that looked no more than twenty two years old but passed when I realized she was wearing five charms in her necklace.
Women certainly have lots of children down here, unfortunatley most have more than they can afford.
BA MONGER TIP #2 - How I deal with the "sex for money" issue.
1. The market price ranges from 100 to 200 pesos. Anything over that is above market, even for a solid "10". I always stay with in that range, even at Blacks.
2. My high price to leave with a chica is 150 pesos. I always pay after the deed, never before. Never has a chica insisted on payment up front and never has a chica asked me for payment after the deed. I always walk up to her and hand her the money.
3. If a chica asks for less than 100 I naturally accept glad but tip 100 pesos.
4. I never give "taxi" money.
5. I've always have GFE, although sometimes more GFE than other times, just as it is with my "amateur' girlfriends.
6. I actually ALWAYS pay 200 pesos, no matter if I leave with the chica for 100-125- 150 pesos. With the devaluation and four years of recession the economic situation is dire now in Argentina and I can't in good conscious as a relatively prosperous North America pay less for than 200 pesos service for these wonderful women who seem to enjoy me as much as I do.
7. Of course if I received poor services I wouldn't pay a cent more, but so far this has never happened. The service couldn't be better. So far I always have DATY, usually BBBJ and always great coitus, with little "hurry up and finish" on the part of the chica. Short 1 1/2 hours sessions can extend all night with any additional request for payment. Business sometimes gives way to pleasure.
8. I never insist on doing something that the chica doesn't want, such as anal, spanking, etc. Since I'm not kinky this is never a problem.
9. I don't monger to dominate or humiliate women or myself, nor prove how long my cock is. I genuine love having sex with the women I am with and they seem to enjoy it as much as I do.
10. I can't tell you how much good will my "vendis operati" creates with the chicas. I'm down here for a full month and return to the same clubs over and over. The chicas who I have gone with run up to me in the clubs and some even offer me a freebie if they are not busy with another customer. Naturally I always take them up on their offer but slip them 200 pesos any way after mission accomplished.
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BKK or BA. I visit BA several times a year and BKK once or twice a year. My normal visit to BA is one or two nights while BKK is about 10 days. Only reason I visit BA more often is proximity to the US. I find the quality of the girls in BA to be much higher than in BKK but the treatment from the girls in BKK is more nicer, more girlfriend like. The Thai women, by culture, have to satisfy the men while the Latin women is more liberated.
IMHO BKK has the edge because they have perfected certain experiences that every man should try at least once in their lifetime. Experiences like choosing a girl from a fishbowl, a soapy, an oil masage, etc...
For the nonadventureous traveler Argentina might be their destination of choise since it is a developed country to the standards of the US or Europe and Thailand is a third world country.
jodomas
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JamesBond, great post but I just want to add that I've had some of my absolute best sessions with young mothers in BA, one notably named Silbana over at Estilo Nuevo, another named Gabriela just last week in la Recoleta. So I'd recommend loosening up on that standard a little bit and I genuinely think you're going to have your world rocked one day by a chica who says she can't stay past 6 am because she's gotta return to little one. DownBA
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Great post Jamesbond. I agree with virtually all of it except the "mother thingy". I agree with DownBA. In fact, some of the girls you've already seen that claim to, "have no children" might in fact have children. Some of the girls know that some guys don't like a girl that has kids so they just lie.
Kids no kids. Makes no difference to me. To me it's the equivalent of a chica saying she avoids married men because she doesn't want to sleep with 'someone's husband'. We're all consenting adults. It's all about having fun and not getting too wrapped up over details sometimes. BA is a good place to let loose and relax.
If you're in BA for any length of time or plan on going back it pays to be a gentleman. Many of these girls have good memories. They often talk with other girls and compare notes on EVERYTHING about you. These girls have loose lips.
Just have fun. Life is good.
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Fellas,
Believe me this is not meant to incite a flame war about Buenos Aires vs. Bangkok. I only wanted to clue in those (like myself) who thought that BA was the "be all end all" at the present moment. (Christ, I'm going to be buying an apartment in BA soon!).
When mongering--I have two goals:
1) To find a glamorous, LA/Las Vegas, stripper-like girl (ie. a woman with a downright perfect body, shaved beaver, perfect tits (fake or not), perfect hair, nails, teeth, etc. (I want to find a perfect ten, a perfect porn-star----a lofty goal--wouldn't you say?).
and
2) Where ever I am, Argentina, Thailand or Russia--I enjoy experiencing a real connection with the girls. Despite the fact that I am paying for it--there have been several instances where the gal I was with--threw "caution to the wind" and really let herself go (probably acting) but at least I was made to believe that she was having the time of her life, both in the sack and out.
So--
let me be perfectly clear when I say that the vast majority (there are thousands upon thousands of girls in BBK peddling their asses) do NOT interest me in the slightest. BUT there are easily 500-1000 girls in BBK that have very WESTERN FEATURES--I dare say some of them look like latinas! (I have scored mixed race girls who had Philipino, and American blood). This small "handful" of 500-1000 girls are the cream-de-la cream of Bangkok--and all of mongering the world over. I'm talking about statuesque, busty porn stars with beautiful faces, tits, asses, etc. This small percentage of elite Bangkok girls would be considered the very best specimens in strip clubs of LA and places like Blacks in BA.
Now here's the rub--
When you find one of these incredible creatures (amongst the thousands and thousands of (average to unattractive) looking girls clogging the streets of Bangkok) YOU WILL BE SHOCKED BY THE INCREDIBLE SERVICE YOU RECEIVE.
In Buenos Aires, the girls generally provide good-to excellent service--BUT IN MOST CASES: they are on the clock and they are out the door after they've serviced you TWO TIMES (unless you negotitated for Toda La Noche)
But Thai girls are a different animal!
Granted--I was staying in a Hefner like, luxury tower (called the (CenterPoint Silom)--so that had a certain amount to do with it--but JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY--these Thai girls (for the total price of 2000-2500 baht (40baht = 1 US Dollar) humped me silly, everyway possible until the cows came home. The next day they would bring me presents of cologne and candy....THAI GIRLS are looking for Western Husbands and will do everything to prove that they are worthy for your consideration. They practically "prostrate" themselves before you, kneeling down and bowing. They massage your back eagerly between rounds, they cuddle--in short they put on an Oscar worthy perfomance. [Best of all--they speak passable English! I enjoy pillow talk and after awhile in Argentina my Spanish tires, and I can only think in English. I was thrilled to discover that the majority of Thai girls can "confabulate" in my mother tongue.]
Morevover, they all offer to come back the next day "for free" Of course, in the back of their minds--they are now going after bigger game--and the are shooting for a wedding ring or some kind of renumeration--but the fact remains that these incredible sex machines visted me for regular dates. I took one to the Oriental Hotel for Steaks and then squired her back to my apartment, humped the stuffing out of her ears for 5 hours (thanks viagra) and then asked her to leave (she would have stayed forever). I tried to pay her (really I did) but she began to tear up. "You think that I am a bad girl" she groaned. I counterd, "we did meet in a go-go bar, and I paid you the other night!" She became furious and went on the explain that "now is different and that as long as I want her, she won't work anymore". This was an aburd scene and I stuffec the cash into her hands, and politely hustled her out the door.
But it illustrates my point--you get "off the scale" girlfriend-like, pornstar experience in thailand. SERVICE that you would be hard-pressed to find in BA. (Although, from what I've read about Brasil, it seems like such service is possible there).
I'll end this by addressing Saint's preference against Asian girls. (I agree that most Asian girls are not to my taste, BUT every so often I open Penthouse or Playboy and I will see a spread of an incredible Asian goddess and she transcends my tastes.
Beleive me you can find that girl in BBK--and she will jump through hoops for you. She isn't easy to find. It might take all of two nights to dig her up. But when you find her, you will understand why Thai girls are probably the best mongering "partners" in the world.
(Lastly, BBK doesn't hold a candle to the rest of BA--the climate, the traffic, the pollution, the chaos--all add up to burn out...Whereas Buenos Aires is a dream city in virtually all respects).
That's it for me. I agree to disagree and only posted this to aprise my brother's who are interested in sampling the fruits of Thailand.
I'll see everyone on December 13th!
Viva Argentina (and Thailand!)
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I started last night by going to Madaho. I got there at about 12:30 but the weekend drought is in effect. For those who have never been here, the weekends suck compared to the weekdays. Iīve asked the girls about this and they say that both the clients and the girls have to spend time with their families during the weekends. A lot of the girls are moms and I donīt think they want to brush off their kids on the weekends. I stayed for about an hour waiting for one of the two hotties from the night before, but they didnīt show. At least the one girl who always lashes onto me finally took the hint and didnīt try this time.
Then I took a taxi to Neuvo Estilo. No drought here. The same girls were here as the night before. I got there in time to see a bachelor get gang stripped and put on a table by his buddies. There was a english speaking first timer there. He was in front of me when I was waiting to pay at the front door. Was it someone from this forum? I donīt see the casual tourist wandering into this place. I decided to make a quick move this time. I went up to this girl I was eyeing the other night. Sheīs no raving beauty, but the pretty young girl next door type. She remembered me from the night before. She even pointed out where I was sitting. I bought her a drink and we sat back and watched the strip show. I didnīt notice before, but the strippers are just girls that work there. She had only been working there a month. She said she used to work at a club on P. Quintana which runs through Recoleta. So thereīs another club to be on the look out for. The prices are fixed. There for 20 minutes, 45 minutes and 1 hour. I thought I agreed to an hour for 150 pesos, but I must have errantly said si to 20 minutes because she only asked for 80 pesos when we got to the cabina. The downside to a brothel is the time limit. Before I knew it, there was the knock on the door saying time was up. She told me I had a few minutes left but I donīt work well under pressure. I just paid for another 20 minutes. She looked like the innocent girl next door downstairs, but once we got to the cabina she was an animal. Very sweet. I give this place a thumbs up with a couple of caveats. The time limit and BJs are covered. I asked when they are opened and was told between 9pm and 5am. Havannaman, this is another option for you when you arrive. Total cost 160 (2 20 min sessions) + 25 for entrance and the girlīs drink. You donīt have to buy the girl a drink if you really want to be cheap. But itīs only 5-10 pesos depending on what she orders. Another plus is that additional beers are 5 pesos as opposed to 20 in the Recoleta clubs. I hope we donīt ruin it by flooding it with tourists. It really is local. Oh, hailing a cab afterwards is a pain. Most of the ones you see are occupied this far out from the center. I tried for about 10 minutes before a couple of kids came up to me with orange vests on. They got one for me in about 30 seconds. I gave them a couple of pesos.
If youīve made it this far, Iīd like to reinterate my comment about the prices at the Recoleta craft market. I browsed yesterday and was planning to buy somethings for Xmas. Later that day, I found the same stuff from the street vendors along Florida street for less than half the cost. The things I would by at Recoleta are the paintings. Theyīre cheap for the quality.
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Hey Guys,
I will be in BA on 29 and 30 November. If the mongers are going to meet the night of the 29th at Hotel Etoille and I would like to join. I have been to BA before but I had not read this great forum for info. I know where the clubs are in Recoleta but where is this new place everyone is now going to called Nuevo Estilo. Where is it located (what district?) and what is the address? Will the taxi drivers know how to get there? Any other info would be apprieciated.
Also is there a website or sites for any of the clubs in BA. Are there any clubs like the termas in RIO. Thanks for the help.
astroglide
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Astroglide, Estilo Nuevo isn't sounding so nuevo anymore, hahahaha. It's located on la Pampa between Cazadores and Figueroa Alcorte, actually it's virtually on the corner of Figueroa Alcorte and la Pampa. It's in Belgrano, so just tell the cabbie "La Pampa y Figueroa Alcorte en Belgrano, por favor" also just add "Estilo Nuevo Boliche" and that ought to do the trick as most of the cabbies know the place anyway. When I was being driven to Hotel Golf Tower just up the road on la Pampa for the first time, the cabbie pointed out the place and told me that was a good place "para coger". So I do believe a lot of cabbies know the place. Fun place, you can shoot a game of pool or watch the chicas strip or both and all in a very relaxed, local atmosphere.
Justgotback, not only did I get an uncovered bj from Silvana, she got down on her knees in the shower and didn't stop til we were dried off in bed, so I guess this is another example of ymmv. I suppose the girls use their senses and their judgment and I don't think there's necessarily a house rule that calls for covered bj only so don't fret it, try another hottie there. I saw a groom get gang stripped too, pretty funny stuff. This is the type of place you take your buddies to the night before they get married to make sure they're sent off with a bang.
Now I'm really brimming with pride seeing so many of you mongers in Mongolia follow my suggestion and check out this fun place!!! Happy mongering guys, DownBA
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justgotback:
The club at Pte. Quintana is Shampoo.
Andres
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LA Larry:
Hola or Sawadee. You got it. Both countries are great for the mongering hobby. Whether you are a turista or farang, BA and BKK are heaven on earth.
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Ola!
Does the AMA still meet at 10:00 PM in Etoile ? I am in BA and would like to meet up with forum brothers. (Yabba & Umgman - Where are you guys ??!!). I was at Madahos last night - not a bad place. There were a couple of cute ones - but didnīt partake, as I did not have any mojo left after 3 chicas from Platynum!
I am in 809 at Etoile if anyone wants to grab a beer and swap stories!
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justgotback,
Thanks for the information. For my day-1 Im more and more drawn to an internet adventure, if that fails, Neuvo Estilo it is!. After a long haul flight, the prospect of a club seems a bit too much: is it age I wonder?! Thanks once again.
Regards,
Havanaman
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by maddur
[i]Ola!
Does the AMA still meet at 10:00 PM in Etoile ? ! [/i][/QUOTE]
Yeah. An AMA field trip meets promptly at 10pm in the lobby of the Etoile tonight, departing for destinations unknown.
All mongers welcome.
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ola everyone,
I`ve been here in BA for a few days now and thought I'd contribute my "experience" so far. I've been to Madaho, Affair, Playwomen, and Shampoo (oh yeah, and New Port). They all have there plus's and minus's and seem to very alot depending on the day you go.
First engagement was with Evelyn from affaire - not a stunner but a very nice girl with alot of energy and the service was excellent. BTW, there is a short term hotel very near the Cemetary in Recoleta that is convenient if you don't want to make a trip back to your hotel (only 30 peso/hr).
Second night with Corena from Madaho. Liked her alot, she is VERY young and from Peru. Very nice body, small chest, but a very good time and definetly GFE (YMMV).
Third night with Paula from Playwomen. She is a dancer there, she is also Bruna from Playtynum. She is hot, all natural and speaks decent english. The service was very good but she was all business and that kinda turned me off. She did let me take pic's though!
Some general notes on BA:
The women of BA are very attractive - not just the girls in the business. If you're coming from the US with it's fowl obesity epidemic you will enjoy the view.
The food is great and incredibly cheap. If you are a wine drinker you will think you are in heaven with these prices and quality.
Very few people speak ANY english. I was very surprised at that for a city this large. I have traveled extensively in Europe and Asia and was quite suprised to find so few english speaker in a country with a fairly well educated population. So, learn some spanish before you get here.
Question for the BA experts...
What is a polite way to say that you are not interested in a chica in spanish? Or that you are just having a beer and hanging out. It seems that the lesser attractive chicas are a little more agressive in the clubs and while I enjoy the conversation, I'm usually not interested.
thanks for the info on Estilo Nuevo, I may go check it out.
Later
CO2
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LA Larry and others,
I know some of you are considering buying condos and property in BA. I just contacted a person with a flat in the Recoleta area who is renting it out to travellers for $60/week. It's not a two room place like you guys want, but that's a pretty attractive price. If everything goes right, I should be there mid Dec. Anyone going to be there then?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bandy
[i]Justgotback,
You are absolutely right. In beauty scale, Violeta could be somewhere between 6 or 7. She is nowhere in the league of Andrea (Madaho) or Jovana (Black) regarding look. Also, the session was very ordinary. What made the experience memorable that she offered me to show around BA to make up for the lost time. These girls are ready to run once they get their money. Instead she was willing to somehow keep her end of the bargain. I always get attracted with educated girls. I feel quality of the level of conversations improve tremendously. And I am always a sucker for the total experience, where bedroom adventures play a secondary role. If I gave you an idea that Violeta was a beauty, I am sorry. The perfect 10, at Madaho is Andrea, go for her. You won't be sorry.
Bandy [/i][/QUOTE]
Thanks Bandy for your recommendations.
re: Andrea and Violeta - Two deals closed at Madahos last night.
I was with Violeta from Madaho last night. True she's no 10 lookwise - more a 7-8, but I like the "girl (with a rack) next door" look and she was great fun to be with. I recommend her without reservations, a credit to her gender.
BA_Robert finally managed to spend the night with Andrea (Elizabeth Hurley lookalike) Again a strong BUY recommendation from an extremely satisfied customer, who just left for Sweden and the post BA Blues....pray for him:-)
Madahos Chicas ROCK!!!!!!!!!
Some Black level chicas in the looks category, better attitudes, at close to Hook prices.
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Jamesbond69
I am glad you guys achieved the mission. As DownBA said, my body is only here, but my heart is still in BA reliving all the immortal moments.
By the way, Violeta was very proud of her natural racks. She mentioned, most of the girls at Madaho had the silicone jobs.
First of all, this numbering system is all subjective, although a clearcut pretty girl, like Andrea, will hit everybody's radar immediately. I realized my best experience is always with a girl who is not a reven beauty but got a very expressive eyes with some degree of intelligence to complement. To me these are the gems which are hard to find.
James continue your adventure with your unique style. Leave no stone unturned. May be some new talents like Andrea, Violeta, Jovana are still residing in unchartered territory.
Bandy
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I'm sadly back in the states so I have no more tales to tell. Let me finish off with a funny little story. Saturday night, I went to get ice cream at the Freddo in Recoleta. There were a lot of people there. I couldn't figure out what number on my receipt was the number for my turn. I asked a lady standing in front of me. Instantly from no where, her guy is in my face with this don't talk to my girl look. What makes this funny is that she was 60 years old if a day. Darn, I was thwarted in my attempt to get some non pro action.
Regards to all that are still in BA.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CO2
Question for the BA experts...
What is a polite way to say that you are not interested in a chica in spanish? Or that you are just having a beer and hanging out. It seems that the lesser attractive chicas are a little more agressive in the clubs and while I enjoy the conversation, I'm usually not interested.
Gracias, pero por el momento prefiero estar solo.
jodomas
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justgotback
I was at the same freddo's Sat. night or should I say Sun. morning. 15 minute wait even at 3:30 am, but it sure is good helado and the girls love it. Actually several chicas and I found some new ways to enjoy about 2 half gallons several days earlier.
Thanks to Saint for posting about Colmegna Spa awhile back. I found this spa to be a great way to rejuvenate both body and mind after the long flight down. Although this place is definetly showing its age the showers,steam,sauna,and lovely masseuses got me ready for the night better than any nap would accomplish. Just a hunch but I would surmise that many amongst the large number of elderly overweight men enjoying the pleasures of this place are probably members of the mafiosa style goverment who are largely responsible for the economic crisis. Regardless, anyone travelling on a coach ticket will be well served by hopping in a cab and heading to 839 sarmientos.
LA LARRY
Like Saint I was not too keen on the asian look. That is until I visited. While I still prefer BA, Thailand was great as well. Completely different experiences but for cheap prices, great food, and lovely women, you can't go wrong in either location. LA If you find yourself in Hong Kong don't miss Macau just a short high speed ferry away. Some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in my life working in the clubs.
One last thing:
In BA try to avoid the taxis the doormen attempt to put you in that are waiting outside the clubs. They will charge more. Also if paying with larger bills check your change as I was slipped a 50 australes bill instead of 50 pesos. Australes are no longer accepted and a quick glance at your change will not alert you to the difference in currency. Certainly the 13 dollar scam did not spoil my fun but it was slightly embarrasing when the bill was rejected in Playwomen.
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Justgotback....damn that ain't right...ha, ha. Funny story though. I'm the friendly type and talk to alot of locals. I've always found all of them to be friendly. (Maybe the same dude was in Playwoman the night before and saw you with the girls...ha, ha). I really hope the clubs aren't as bad as in September.
Slick1, you're welcome for the Colmegna tip. Yeah, that place is awesome and very relaxing. I never get sexual services there. I just like to relax and rejuvinate in that place. It's funny because the last time I was there the massage girl asked me about 20 times if I was sure I didn't want a "masaje especial" (special massage).
I'll most likely never "tag" an Asian girl. I don't care how hot she is. My true friends that know me think I'm nuts. I've even had a State beauty pagent winner hit on me and I shot her down. Not my cup of tea. If you really want to hear funny something funny you should have been there that night. She said, "do you know who I am". I just replied, "take it easy beauty queen".
CO2, just be honest. Just tell them you are ok now, just looking now or something like maybe later: "Gracias pero estoy bien ahora." "Gracias, pero estoy mirando ahora..quizas mas tarde"
Sometimes the girls will really be aggressive. Case in point, a few times while at Black's I'll make eye contact with a girl that looks good from far away. Inevitably she will come closer and maybe even chat then won't leave. If she doesn't look that good up close and won't leave I'll say something like, "gracias pero prefiero rubias" - if they are brunettes which translates to "thanks but I prefer blondes". Or vice versa, "gracias pero prefiero morenas". They always get the hint after that.
Don't be afraid to just be honest and tell them you're not interested. Most of the girls are really nice. I've never had a girl get pissed and in fact, most guys will probably tell you that the rejected girl will even offer to help you find a girl you're attracted to.
Good luck. T-minus 1 day and counting before I'm back in the arms of my beloved BA.
Saint
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I will ne in Ba for a little more than two weeks starting on Friday 11-29 and will be renting a very nice apartment in the Recoleta area for $250 per week. I will give an update on the apartment as I think it is being offered by a service in BA. The funny thing is that the lady renting the apt. said that it has a private elevator and that I can bring whatever guests I like as long as I don't damage anything. This should prove for a wild time as one of my fantasies is to get multiple (4+) girls together for a party fueled by my vitamin V.
I want to thank everybody for the information that they have provided and I will repay via some very detailed reports on my part. I like to travel off the beaten path and locate value in my mongering - hot women and great services for a bargain. I don't fault people for going to Black's or others, it just isn't my scene paying top dollar for a hot girl. I would rather go to some off the beaten path and pay half the price for a non-hardened pro that is also hot provides a better GFE service. That is what my reports will involve.
I will try to go to Etoile at 10:00 pm to meet up with fellow mongerers. If anyone is interested in hitting the scenes, email me at johnguapo69@yahoo.com.
Also a friend of mine has compiled all of the internet girls in a powerpoint so I can see their webpages, pictures, numbers, etc. without having to go to an Internet cafe. It is a huge file - 350 plus slides and over 750 girls that is almost 95 meg. If anyone is interested I will try to figure out a way to email this file to interested parties.
Saludos - johnguapo
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Would like to put in a good word for Estefanie on Platynum.
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Hi Chuponalgas,
There's no Estefanie on Platynum as of today.
There is an Estefani, Estefania, Estefany, Estefi, Estephania,
and Esthefany.
Can you clarify, which girl you were talking about ?
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I liked your write up too, but I canīt find the 5ī0", young looking Estef* on Platynum. Can you help? How about a phone no. Thanks.
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johnguapo:
God luck!
Just take into account the following:
1) If going to places that cater to locals, please try to keep the prices as standard as possible.
2) Be aware that Spanish is somewhat needed in these places (or at least helps much more than in Recoleta for negotiating).
3) From my own experience, guys usually don't dress up when going to neighborhoods' boliches. It will only raise the fee from the lady and make you a target for being mugged. Just go neat and average dressed.
Hope this helps,
Andres