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[QUOTE=DallasNorte;445348]My vote would be Sao Paulo for the hookers (Termas are much better) and Rio for the tourism.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Rio is now about 15% of what it was in its heyday in terms of mongering options. It is still an interesting/great city for tourism with some high quality restaurants, great juice bars and good daytime action.
Last time I was in Sao Paulo in June 2011 the Real was 1.50 to the US dollar. I wrote an entry on ISG that I was in sticker shock. Hotels were $250 a night. Clinicas, similar to privados were $100 an hour. Night club girls were $300 to $400. Now the real is 3.10 to 1. Hotels I have used in the past are $125. Clinicas are now $50 or $60. Nobody seems to report on nightclubs anymore but I imagine you could have a fun night in Bomboa for $200. I recommend splitting the trip into two parts to deal with congestion. Get a hotel in Moema for the better clinicas. Move over to Paulista for the Bomboa, Sauna House and the Rua Augusta nightclubs. I also had a trouble with getting money from the ATMS. Citibank and HSBC were the only ones on the Star system. The Brazilian banks use Rede(?) and would not accept my card. In other words, you want a hotel near a Citibank.
I've been walking past Exedra the last couple of days, as I live near by.
Never seen any girls in there, ( I work normal hours and have not been there during the day).
However in the evening/ night there are a lot of girls trying to get your attention...
As I have never seen the girls in Exedra I dont know if they are the same or other girls trying to cash in on.
Exedra being out of service..
I went there at 6 pm and it was dead. Not a soul of either sex. I will try tomorrow at 9 pm.
I was about to edit my post but probably better to clarify in a new one.
I've never seen a girl inside even at 11 or 8 or 6 pm this week. They aren't in.....
And Iv'e never seen a girl outside as long as the police are patrolling.
Not sure if it is the Pope visit coming but there are a lot of more cops around walking....
Also the blokes with the flyers are no where to be found if there is a cop around...
And there are cops everywhere I don't know this is new but 4 years ago I didn't see this many cops. (or I am getting old and forget).
Exedra is closed. A big "clausurado" on the doors.
Don't know what happened and for how long.
[QUOTE=Dreamm;445448]I was about to edit my post but probably better to clarify in a new one.
I've never seen a girl inside even at 11 or 8 or 6 pm this week. They aren't in.....
And Iv'e never seen a girl outside as long as the police are patrolling.
Not sure if it is the Pope visit coming but there are a lot of more cops around walking....
Also the blokes with the flyers are no where to be found if there is a cop around...
And there are cops everywhere I don't know this is new but 4 years ago I didn't see this many cops. (or I am getting old and forget).[/QUOTE]
Friday night and Exedra is open. A few chicas.
At least tonight, Ex is alive and well. Chicas are there but most are huddled inside as it is cold. Most are hardened pros so I did not partake. I did see several mongers outside waiting to make the move (or not). El Perro may be one of them. Ha ha.
- V.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;445463]At least tonight, Ex is alive and well. Chicas are there but most are huddled inside as it is cold. Most are hardened pros so I did not partake. I did see several mongers outside waiting to make the move (or not). El Perro may be one of them. Ha ha.
- V.[/QUOTE]Had a coffee inside and moved on. Too cold to spend much time outside !
Good news that Exedra has reopened as well as Hook. Maybe we will see some other places reopen as well.
[QUOTE=ElPerro;445464]Had a coffee inside and moved on. Too cold to spend much time outside !
Good news that Exedra has reopened as well as Hook. Maybe we will see some other places reopen as well.[/QUOTE]....and sounds like I was chasing "the dog". May be we even saw each other. Ha ha. Anyway, I had a very interesting Firday night. See full report in Clubs section.
El Perro, thank you for your contributions.
Met a friend here last (Saturday) night. My first time at the cafe, but from what I saw a number of chicas just hanging out. Did not ask prices, but a good selection to pick from. Some were there earlier, but action increased around 10:00.
There had to be around 20 chicas there last night, around 11 pm.
Most of them were in there late 20s and 30s. A few from the past.
The ones I talked to were asking $1000 pesos.
Been going up there every nite for the past 9 days. Just to have a chopp and look at the merchandise. The chicas arrive around 9pm, a number of goodlooking ones, a few blacks but mostly blondes. But the prices start 1000pesos and go up to 2000. Beyond my pay grade, but fun to look at anyway and tease around with.
[QUOTE=BayBoy;447051]Been going up there every nite for the past 9 days. Just to have a chopp and look at the merchandise. The chicas arrive around 9pm, a number of goodlooking ones, a few blacks but mostly blondes. But the prices start 1000pesos and go up to 2000. Beyond my pay grade, but fun to look at anyway and tease around with.[/QUOTE]Wow Man , you could have fucked 2 SW's at Plaza "Prostitucion" or Plaza "Misery" instead of drinking 9 shit beers at X for $450p!
I was at X last night around 1:30 am and it was SRO outside.
No place to sit and there were probably 30 girls seated inside and outside plus another 20 standing around on the sidewalks.
Wall to Wall Pussy!
Grabbed two 23 year olds that use to work at 977 Marcelo T. De Alvear for 1200p each.
One of them is the girl with the Perfect Ass.
Have Fun.
Thanks Bay Boy !
TL.
Senor Maestro Caballero Tejano Libre, you are THE MAN !!!!
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;447053]Wow Man , you could have fucked 2 SW's at Plaza "Prostitucion" or Plaza "Misery" instead of drinking 9 shit beers at X for $450p!
I was at X last night around 1:30 am and it was SRO outside.
No place to sit and there were probably 30 girls seated inside and outside plus another 20 standing around on the sidewalks.
Wall to Wall Pussy!
Grabbed to 23 year olds that use to work at 977 Marcelo T. De Alvear for 1200p each.
One of them is the girl with the Perfect Ass.
Have Fun.
Thanks Bay Boy !
TL.[/QUOTE]
I keep thinking about this and keep wondering what happened.
My first night was kind of strange.
Bayboy and arrived the same day. His flight was an early morning one, mine was a late night one.
I got to the hotel around 9 pm. We were in different hotels. When we met up it was around 10 pm at Exedra. From what I had been reading it was supposed to be a little early for chicas to be at Exedra. There was quite a few chicas there wanting too much money. I knew that TL would show up around 11, so I order a beer and we waited.
Sure enough a little after 11 TL shows up with some members. I did not recognize any of them.
In the past we would all sit together and BS. So, Bayboy and myself moved from our table to join the other guys. But, one guy got pissed off about mixing tables. In the past there hadn't been any problems; that I recall, but this one guy got so upset he left. Saying something about you cant change tables, and something about the waiter. So, Bayboy and I did not want to upset anyone so we went back to our table. TL was in the bano and did not know what happen when came back to the table. I was tired from the long flight and left after I finished my beer.
It was a very strange behavior for the guy. I guess it was some newbie that was nervous.
Have stopped by Excedra the last 3 nights. Lots of girls but not much action. Most girls sit there for hours and nurse a drink then get up and leave. A few are cute however. Most are not. Talked to a few cute ones. Prices are high. A couple may be very good value by North American Standards but inflation has reached Argentina. The conventional wisdom is the later you wait the lower prices can go but I have not witnessed that. Hoping for a windfall. PM me for details.
Gentlemen, I understand this is just one facet of a complex dynamic, BUT...
Something to keep in mind. When the economy goes through the floor in a hopeless way, people stop behaving in ways that reflect hopefulness. If a young, fit, sweet girl in her prime (everything that we seek) does not have enough hope to entertain the notion of "taking on a client or two until things get better", then she will simply dismiss the idea as implausible. If the prices go too far through the floor, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze for anyone OTHER than hardened, blown out, inverted windsocks (everything we avoid). Its all about incentivizing what we like, and unfortunately, that is out of our hands. We are at the mercy of the state.
But yeah, I argue that the quality of our experience with the hobby is an expression of hopefulness, rather than hopelessness.
Greetings from Sao Paulo. Just wanted to say thanks to TL for meeting up with me last week at Exedra. Nice dude who knows his stuff in BA. It was my first time casing that joint and there was definitely a flavor for every taste. Spent some time bullshitting with him, Great Dane, and Chino. While I didn't partake it was worth taking the time to meet some new people and see a new spot. Hope the evening treated you well. Hope to be back soon.
The sweetest hooker in the world told me that as of yesterday the chicks aren't allowed to sit at any tables inside or out.
Pluses, nice line up and that can't hide how fat their asses are.
Minuses, sounds like a prelude to the cops running them off for standing next to the street and the chicks with fat asses aren't hiding them under the table.
[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447226]The sweetest hooker in the world told me that as of yesterday the chicks aren't allowed to sit at any tables inside or out.
Pluses, nice line up and that can't hide how fat their asses are.
Minuses, sounds like a prelude to the cops running them off for standing next to the street and the chicks with fat asses aren't hiding them under the table.[/QUOTE]So WTF ?! I was hoping we would see an end to this foolishness but not so, eh ? If only I were king.
[QUOTE=ElPerro;447228]So WTF ?! I was hoping we would see an end to this foolishness but not so, eh ? If only I were king.[/QUOTE]
If cops are against boliches too, where shall we go?
Start Here:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2Ss[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kypuv1w70XeQ[/URL]
[URL]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/URL].
[QUOTE=PickCherry12;447230]If cops are against boliches too, where shall we go?[/QUOTE]
And then there was Exedra tonight, seriously sad. I have to believe they are under pressure from the cops.
Im going to check it out tomorrow.....a few months back is was not bad.
Any other recommendations? I miss Orleans for the lunch time snack!
What's the current situation at Exedra ? Girls ? No girls ? A few girls ? Have they been eliminated completely ?
I'm doing a pros and cons eval before I decide to make one more sojourn to BA...or not.
The massage/fuck places on Esmeralda and Florida still kicking ?
[QUOTE=ElPerro;447373]What's the current situation at Exedra ? Girls ? No girls ? A few girls ? Have they been eliminated completely ?
I'm doing a pros and cons eval before I decide to make one more sojourn to BA...or not.
The massage/fuck places on Esmeralda and Florida still kicking ?[/QUOTE]Girls, outside, lined up. Not a lot.
Don't know the Esmeralda nor Florida fuck place.
[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447375]Girls, outside, lined up. Not a lot.[/QUOTE]Was there yesterday. No chichis allowed to get inside.
Great success of Gustavo Vera to stop worldwide prostitution.
He will fail as any wr*nk*r who tried to convince us to look 4 marriage but NOT 4 good paid-6.
The Macri change over still hasn't effected the crazy search for human trafficking. Human trafficking is horrible--like slavery. Never understaood places like black being driven out of business.
What's up in the great puerto?
[QUOTE=MiamiBob;447386]The Macri change over still hasn't effected the crazy search for human trafficking. Human trafficking is horrible--like slavery. Never understaood places like black being driven out of business.
What's up in the great puerto?[/QUOTE]Miami Bob !
Come on Down !
Saint Macri is not behind the scenes.
Gustavo Vera has always been the leader of the movement well before the change of government.
He has done an admirable job when it comes to cleaning up the trash in the city.
Take a moment to Wiki Gustavo Vera if you can see this link.
[URL]https://translate.google.com.ar/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Vera&prev=search[/URL]
Black , like most of the other clubs was repeatedly closed down for various reasons :
Human Trafficking due to forced prostitution.
Underage prostitutes.
Charging more for girl's drinks.
Drugs.
Beating up clients.
Stuff like that.
Their business permit was finally revoked and will never be approved again.
This City is still a lot of fun and a lot better than some of the other choices if you know where to go.
TL
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;447387]Miami Bob !
Come on Down !
[/QUOTE]Yes. Come Down.
Warmest regards to all.
Bob in miami.
[QUOTE=MiamiBob;447407]Warmest regards to all.
Bob in miami.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Meet me in Bs As. I have forgotten most of the Spanish that I used to know. Although I do remember to say "Hola cola" to that one chica at Newport. It will be good entertainment.
As an aside, I've been considering a trip to Medellin...just need to get a few ducks in order.
Is this place still active. I pulled some nice girls out of there my last visit.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;448510]Is this place still active. I pulled some nice girls out of there my last visit.[/QUOTE]There are a few decent looking chicks that hang on the periphery of Exedra but they seem to have a pretty inflated opinion regarding the value of their services. I'm sure some of the guys who are into financial domination would like them but I don't recall the last one I pulled from there.
Still a nice place to have a cup o joe though.
DR.
Just left Excedra about an hour ago and they had a lot of girls. Non of them very attractive and they were all asking for 1500 Peso . Keep was full of women. They actually had a lot of guys aswell but more women then men . However they all seemed stick up so I walked out. BA ain't what it used to be. Don't come here for the hobby. Everybody is trying to get out of here. Those who can't are stuck and miserable . It is really expensive. There was one decent girl asking for $1800 pesos. I was like it is crazy what SW are asking for.
[QUOTE=NewOrleans;448513]Just left Excedra about an hour ago and they had a lot of girls. Non of them very attractive and they were all asking for 1500 Peso . Keep was full of women. They actually had a lot of guys aswell but more women then men . However they all seemed stick up so I walked out. BA ain't what it used to be. Don't come here for the hobby. Everybody is trying to get out of here. Those who can't are stuck and miserable . It is really expensive. There was one decent girl asking for $1800 pesos. I was like it is crazy what SW are asking for.[/QUOTE]I shouldn't be after so many years, but I am constantly amazed by the Argentine mentality--If business is bad, raise the price.
Tres3.
[QUOTE=Tres3;448514]I shouldn't be after so many years, but I am constantly amazed by the Argentine mentality--If business is bad, raise the price.
Tres3.[/QUOTE]It is a genetic defect.
The stories on this site about greedy Argies are legion. They just never learn.
I have two real pips for you from this trip.
Number one - girl I have known for a while shows up at Newport and I take her out on 25 January, see her the following night but she gets a call and jumps up in the middle and has to go. OK no problem so far. She texts me to tell me she is not feeling well on the 27th but wants to come over - tell her no to get better since I know the service will be bad if she is already calling with excuses. Now on 29 January she texts me and tells me I made her sick, sore throat and cough, she had to go to a private hospital for medication and I now owe her - wait for it - $2000 US for rent and meds and child care. Never mind that I paid her for the two times she came over even though she left early.
Number two - after a nice evening dropped by Deleiro for a late drink at 2:30 AM. Talked to a couple of girls I know then spot this cute little number in the typical little black dress, about an 7.5. She comes over and we chat a bit, got her a drink and figure why not test the waters. Now mind you it is now 3:45 AM and the place is pretty empty by that time, so I pitch her a number and she looks me straight in the eye and says no she wants $400 US.
We have all seen this same mentality more times than I can count. The girls go home with no money at the end of the night and business owners continue to further kill their business by continuing to raise prices.
At one time this country was a world class economic power due to its agriculture and now its a hopeless basket case living out in La La Land.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;448517]The stories on this site about greedy Argies are legion. They just never learn.
I have two real pips for you from this trip.
Number one - girl I have known for a while shows up at Newport and I take her out on 25 January, see her the following night but she gets a call and jumps up in the middle and has to go. OK no problem so far. She texts me to tell me she is not feeling well on the 27th but wants to come over - tell her no to get better since I know the service will be bad if she is already calling with excuses. Now on 29 January she texts me and tells me I made her sick, sore throat and cough, she had to go to a private hospital for medication and I now owe her - wait for it - $2000 US for rent and meds and child care. Never mind that I paid her for the two times she came over even though she left early.
Number two - after a nice evening dropped by Deleiro for a late drink at 2:30 AM. Talked to a couple of girls I know then spot this cute little number in the typical little black dress, about an 7.5. She comes over and we chat a bit, got her a drink and figure why not test the waters. Now mind you it is now 3:45 AM and the place is pretty empty by that time, so I pitch her a number and she looks me straight in the eye and says no she wants $400 US.
We have all seen this same mentality more times than I can count. The girls go home with no money at the end of the night and business owners continue to further kill their business by continuing to raise prices.
At one time this country was a world class economic power due to its agriculture and now its a hopeless basket case living out in La La Land.[/QUOTE]FUBAR.........oh wait ....there is no reasoning here.