M-BOB, it sounds like you spent hundreds on drinks and a LD while trying to save only 100 on the girl. Sounds like being penny wise and peso foolish.
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M-BOB, it sounds like you spent hundreds on drinks and a LD while trying to save only 100 on the girl. Sounds like being penny wise and peso foolish.
[QUOTE=Miami Bob]
She then sits at my laptop to have me send her a mail and gives me her home and cel number. She will be happy to come over for two hours before work for 300 pesos and so will her sister, who also works at Blacks. I guess that we may have some chemistry and she is a solid 7.5 to 8.0 a repeat would be likely, but I have three other girls I know where there is mutual chemistry in full bloom who are happy with 150 to 200 pesos and enjoy my pleasure and I enjoy theirs.[/QUOTE]If you have to have one of these high end girls here is the answer. Get their cell number! Call them for a daytime meet (before they go to the club) and enjoy them without the chica drinks, etc for 1/2 to no more than 2/3 of the price. I think it was Dickhead who taught me that when I really wanted a particular chica but would not pay the high price. With this strategy I could still have banged her, in a less rushed atmosphere, at a lower price and not feel I had missed out on anything.
Regarding the catching of digits, I always felt that Black was very aware from all angels what goes on here. I am not sure any girl would jeopardize her ability to work here over giving out her number. Taking out the pen to me seems to be automatic radar move? Management I am sure would want you to do the business throught them, or is liberal lifestyle here again? What percentage of girls work regularly here? On there sometimers? I beleive they are selective to not have any druggies, here. I think they run a nice act here. See it in 1 week.
[QUOTE=Master J]Regarding the catching of digits, I always felt that Black was very aware from all angels what goes on here. I am not sure any girl would jeopardize her ability to work here over giving out her number. Taking out the pen to me seems to be automatic radar move? Management I am sure would want you to do the business throught them, or is liberal lifestyle here again? What percentage of girls work regularly here? On there sometimers? I beleive they are selective to not have any druggies, here. I think they run a nice act here. See it in 1 week.[/QUOTE]Master J you are right. Management wants them there and doing business there. However, I have had one chica at Black and several at Madahos slip me their numbers. They did this after I inquired about seeing them during the day. They did not whip out a pen and give me their digits then and there. Sensing I was not going to take them at that time for that price they would leave and little later on bump into me and slip me the digits in a match book into my hand, smile, and give me a nice friendly kiss on the cheek. Why did they do this? Am I good looking? Nope. I think they did it because they thought I was a nice guy who would not be an unpleasant trist the next day. The only reason this happened only once at Black is I found to many of the girls in Black think they are so hot that their own poo does not stink. Oh and I forgot probably the most important point. It was probably because I was in Jackson's companyat Madahos and was tagged as a known quantity.
OK, Friday starting somewher around 12:00 until 2:00.
Halfway up the stairs, 6-8 girls priping about after getting changed outside their room; 2 looking pretty good.
Went up to the main games room and a pretty fair selection there. One guy towing out 4 girls, 10 minutes later another guy towing out 2 girls. Actually, in 2 hours, probably the most girls I have ever seen puuled from a club, but that's pobably because I was sitting with my wingman at the bar.
We had our 40 peso drinks, (yes, 10 pesos less than Madaho) But overall, I must say I prefer the whole experience and chica selection at Madaho.
2 of the better looking ones we saw coming up the stairs we motioned over after 1/2 hour, talked for 15 minutes, then offered them a drink. The surprize was they both spoke excellent English. Some very intellegent conversation, with some sexy stuff thrown in. One was taller than me in her not outrageous heels, and I am of average NAmerc. Height. I knew the prices would be crazy and my wingman, Latino, asked and the tall one said $US300. I tried a different tack with the other and said I never date on the first night, I want your digits for another night. They went to the can, came back and she said she was being watched to closely by mmg to slip anything to me. She whispered her cell to me. I told her I would never remember it so she tried the email. I sent one there but no answer yet so I am not sure if I got it right.
We gave them each a nice tip for taking time out of their busy evening to talk.
The male mind is as crazy as it's female counter-part? I posted a few times about Blacks over the past few weeks.
The woman's face that keeps coming back to mind is the 30's blond at Blacks who I never took out because of money issues.
Mark Linger is right about me from a rational point of view. This 55 year old is still either a romantic at heart or just an old horn dog. This most beautiful woman of the trip, who I never slept with is the one I miss the most. Her smile actually did make my heart skip a beat. The truth is that another girl created the same reaction for less money:
I went to excedera too sick with the flu to do anything except drink tea, and chatted-up Hilda, the 50's battle axe who keeps the girls in line. I try to kiss her on the cheek because she has almost as much intel on the girls as Jackson and Capt Dave combined. Hilda introduced me to a new girl who was just starting to work and was timid. Hilda told her that I'm a good guy and told me that she is very passionate and needs to be treated with kindness. This early 20's mother, whose man had abandoned her with an infant, looked at me and smiled. My heart skipped a beat and I started to cough --darn that flu--her smile was every bit as beautiful as the us$200 blacks' girl's smile and likely sincere. I'll have to wait for November to return to both Blacks and excedera to find out.
AS for now, I'm getting to know a columbian woman who is more age appropriate and I'll have to spend US$500 on dating before I find out if she can give head worth a darn. For us$500, I could probably have 5 full days and nights with the sexy single mom that Hilda tried to recomend.
Miami Bob,
Your flue influenced post brought back some very old but dear memories of 30 years back as a young monger in BA (yes, I was a monger here before most of you guys could finger Argentina on a map) when Mirta (Hilda) was the object of my and my fellow monger's desires.
Picture her slim with long shiny black hair, sensuous thick lips and come to bed eyes. A two hundred bucks a night lass. Maybe even three if you were hot / rich enough.
Very few of those girls have survived 30 years and I am actually fucking the granddaughters of many of the girls of those days. Mirta is one of very few that still dresses up, goes out and sits in a bar and earns her own living.
I respect her immensely and in all these 30 years I have never fucked her
Oops - Jackson, the thread on Black wasn't the right place to post my views on Hilda and 30 years of mongering in the Queen Of La Plata (Buenos Aires) Please redirect my post to wherever you deem correct.
:)
Peter
We made a brief stop here. The entrance was crammed with guys, so we turned and left.
I've been here on a holiday before, and I think I may pay a visit Monday night. What I liked about it before was there were not a lot of guys, but still a decent number of women, and I could relax and flirt some knowing I was one of the few prospects that night. Of course, it doesn't really mean anything, the girls aren't coming down on their prices, and I didn't take one home that night, and probably won't take one home on Monday, either. I'm just saying I like the place better when things are a little slower.
I went here last night with some guys that had never been and wanted a trophy fuck. It was not very crowded.
Another monger shared this trick with me. If you take a cab to Black, or Madaho's tell the cab driver not to run the meter because he will get paid from the club if you tell them its your first time there. This worked twice last night for my friends and I. I have heard that they get 20 pesos per person.
I was very let down at the quality of the girls in this place. I saw 4 stunners, I talked to 2 and none would do BBBJ or TLN. If I am paying that much for quality tail I must get what I want in return. It was just not happening there. My friends had bad luck also.
We hopped in a cab and got a free ride to Madaho's all of 6 blocks away with a happy cab driver.
I am starting to think all of the stunners here have left for Europe. The quality of the chicas is going down hill here and other higher end clubs.
I took a chica from Black to Madero Tango last night. Taking her out of the club on Thursday and having a date with her on Sunday is the most I ever spent on a chica in BA. No regrets.
Now for the sure tell. When we were getting out of the taxi at the show, she asked me if I had forgotten to get a receipt from the driver. Obviously she is used to being with the business traveler and not the vacationer.
Overall, I enjoyed having someone to date. She dressed appropriately for the show. We did not receive any undue attention despite the thirty-year age gap. She pointed out herself that she is "no loco". Other chicas in BA can be. I think that Black's market is the business traveler.
I paid 1500 pesos for both Thursday and Sunday. She spent 90 minutes Thursday night and seven hours with me on Sunday. She claims she gets $400 and $500 a night. In Black she opened with $600. The problem is she reminds you from time to time that she gets that amount. She definitely has upsell skills. I told her that guys only pay $200 at Black and she was incredulous. "Me?" she asked while pointing to herself. No doubt she is a very good actress. My Dad taught me that you cannot tell a person how to run their business unless they ask. She's putting up her time and labor. It must be working or she would change.
I think if flight, hotel and meals were paid for I would have no problem paying the tab if I was six-figure executive. My take is that the Black service is a good-looking girl with some manners who does not do drugs and is clean and safe. I could see guys easily paying for that if they are on a two-or-three day business trip. Quite frankly Black was packed last Thursday night.
Now here is the sad part, she used to work for Solid Gold before she went to Black so sometime this year in eight months she has worked one of you probably was with her for 200 pesos.
First timer to BA here. I usually don't post anything but I had to relate my first experience of going to Black for the comedic value. I've only been in town for two days and Black was the first club that I went to. Plus I speak no Spanish whatsoever. I know, recipe for disaster.
So I get there around 12 last night and hang out for a little while outside. I was worried I was going to go in and it would be deserted inside. Finally, I decided I would just pay the cover and go in and if I was the only person there, I'd just turn around and leave. So I pay the cover which I believe was 40 or 50 pesos and included a drink and walk up the stairs.
I wasn't really planning on taking anybody out unless I saw somebody I really liked and they didn't play games with the prices. My Spanish is so bad I didn't think I could really haggle about the price. I forgot about all of that when I walked into the main room. There were some really beautiful women there.
So after awhile I start talking to Anna, she spoke very limited English but we could get through the details. She quoted 250p right away which I thought was the rate I read from this forum. So I agreed and we went back to my apt. Here's where it gets interesting.
First she wants to get paid upfront, which I know is never a good sign but I relent because I'm also expecting her to try something about the price and I'd like to get that out of the way. She then tries the standard, I said 250 US dollars. I said no way, you said pesos. At this point, I was starting to get tired and is she would have kept arguing I was just going to show her the door. She then said o. K, pesos, but wanted 300. I said no again, and I think she could tell I was getting annoyed so she dropped it. I felt guilty so I gave her an extra 20. Here's where the comedy comes in.
She goes into the bathroom and two minutes later I hear her yell and she runs out of the bathroom. I run in there and she had been playing with the bidet and one of the faucets is off and there is water spraying up and going everywhere and the floor was beginning to flood. My first thought was what kind of scam is this? Did she do it on purpose so she can run out of the apt. with the money? Or is she trying to distract me so she can go through my place stealing things? So I'm getting soaked and trying to fix the faucet while keeping one eye on her. To make a long story short, I had to call the maintenance people who sent somebody up to fix the faucet which took an uncomfortable ten minutes. Anna just waited and didn't steal anything, so I don't think it was a scam. We finally did the deed and I gave her taxi fare and she left.
The evening turned out ok but I think I may now be traumatized.
Thanks for sharing the report from Black. That's definately a wacky experience you had with the bidet. I would have been suspicious too. Good thing it turned out OK. Any details on Anna's performance and appearance you can share?
Also, I must commend you on getting a chica here for 250p, especially on your first visit. You might have the record for the lowest price at Black. Very impressive. I paid 300p a few times but that was over two years ago. I think the average rate here is probably in the 400-500p range. What did you pay in total for the chica's drinks... Did she say you had to buy 2 drinks?
The drinks might have been where I got screwed. She said I had to buy two and it came out to 120 pesos. I couldn't remember if I had read if this was the standard price or not?
I think she probably quoted me 250 because for some reason there weren't that many guys there last night. What are the weeknights like? I'm thinking about going back tomorrow night.
[QUOTE=Jeffrey88]The drinks might have been where I got screwed. She said I had to buy two and it came out to 120 pesos. I couldn't remember if I had read if this was the standard price or not?
I think she probably quoted me 250 because for some reason there weren't that many guys there last night. What are the weeknights like? I'm thinking about going back tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]She probably quoted you the 250 with every intention of changing it to dollars in the room. It's an old trick and one you can take advantage of. As a matter of fact you could just say "dos ciento y sinquenta" and leave it at that, or better yet say "two hundred and fifty" and then pay them in pesos. Most will fuck you I think. They have already told their friends they are getting 250 bucks so their face is saved. Especially if it's early or late but not prime time on a slow night.
I think I would use a tello if this is going to be an ongoing gambit though. If they get out of hand in your room your kind of trapped, where as in a tello you can just walk out. Once you walk out without paying them the gambit is foiled at that club because they will tell all of their friends, and you will be the "hijo de puta who doesn't pay." The LCN is faster than the web.
The bidet broke is all, not her fault. She saved you an unwanted shower, as every "valuable service provider" worth anything washes her concha before fucking.