Madahos

I was in Madahos again recently. 60p for the entry fee which included one drink. They have remodelled a lot of the stage area, there is more floor space for the dancers and a new catwalk up high.

Place was 75% full with about equal numbers men and women. I took my time checking things out, occasionally chatting up a potential prospect. Girls were all friendly. At one point I had been talking with a blond and a brunette, with the usual jokes about how much fun I would have with both of them together. Awhile later I crossed paths with the blond and she came over and started flirting with me again. Long story short, we had a very good vibe, I bought her a drink (100p) and we hung out together awhile in the club, then left for my place (400p) whereupon a fantastic session ensued with BBBJ, DFK and multiple positions. This girl was very attractive in the club and looked even better in private, especially when the clothes came off. About 5'3, blond, slim and toned, golden tan, beautiful/cute face, b-cups. She has a Brazil look but is from Argentina. At least an 8 or 8.5. Coupled with the very good chemistry we had, it was one of my top 10 BA sessions ever. I gave her a 40p tip. She stayed about 1.5h though it was late. I have her cell number and am keeping her name to myself, with the intent to repeat and possibly keep our acquantaince going if/when she stops working the clubs.

There have been some posts where it seems some guys have soured on Madahos. Based on my visit I am not in this camp.... I had an excellent time at Madahos, good vibe and good looking girls (though I have seen higher quality here before). The club seems to be doing a good business.

I was wondering if anybody had an experience with somebody from the club calling chica's cell phone number 1 hour after exit from the club? Today was a first time I experienced anything similar. Perhaps she pulled a trick on me. In any case, she (Sheilla is the name) told me - una copa, una hora.

My impression is that good looking girls there will mostly refuse any offer below 400p while the night is young.

In any case, it was a good experience. Sexy young girl, fun to talk with. Good service, but nothing outside of this world.

Mongers-

Made a stop in here last night with a buddy to check out what the talent level is looking like these days. $60 AR entrance including one drink, as always. All in all, the talent was a little disappointing, there were some very doable chicks, but perhaps the fact I did not arrive until 3am dictates that the top-shelf chicas had departed for the night. All the chicas that my buddy talked to gave him the tourist rip-off price quote of $200 USD. I offered one chica I had a mild interest in $300 AR for 3 hours and she countered with $350 AR, which I refused, since I wasn't that interested anyway.

In closing, a quick point of interest. I am watching the dancers, and who pops out as the "feature" of one of the "shows" but Analia, former contestant and winner of the El Alamo Bikini Open. She won the third bikini contest and participated in several more. She looked good, with new hard-as-rocks- looking fake tits, and way too much tanning bed action, but that ridiculously shaped and toned ass was still the same. Check out her pics from the contest on this site to get an idea.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Is she on the "Program" Dirk.

Exon

Walking back to my apartment after dinner with a friend of mine, I decided to stop into Madahos. I've went to this club since they opened and even though it's not nearly the same reality in there I still like to stop for a drink when I am in town.

Took my normal place at the bar, ordered some vino, and up walks a chica I kind of know from before. She sits down and we chit chat for a bit and then she puts on the hustle. I had no intention of taking anyone out of there but I wanted to see what kind of price a "familiar" chico would get. First she puts out the outrageous quote of U. S. $300. I give my standard "I'm a working man not a wealthy tourist, let's be reasonable here..." response (which is true...) Blah, blah, blah. Then comes the jaw dropper.

She tells me with a straight face - "Well you should give me 100 pesos for my time at the bar with you and I will move on." What the fuck is that? I just about shit my pants - she actually got pissed off when I laughed and she stomped off. Gentlemen, I have never, ever, in 5 years, been asked to tip because a chica talked to me for a while at a club.

Then I asked Silvia, the bartender, whom I've known since the begining, "what the fuck is going on? - do you know how insulting it is for this club to allow that shit?" I was highly pissed and she knew it but refused to comment on it.

Anyway, is this shit happening to others? I mean someone must be paying it or they would not ask for it. Unbelievable, and the "straw that broke the camel's back" for me in that club. I mean I can accept inflation, etc. but not that kind of shit. All good things come to an end, I guess. Madahos can get fucked as far as I'm concerned.

I was in Orleans maybe 2 days ago and was interviewing a chica. I wan't interested in any action then, or even that day, but wanted to get her name and number and some basic info that I like to have about a chica to determine whether or not I want to see her (e. G. Price) After I was done with my questions and had returned to reading my book she asked me if I had $50 pesos for her? I looked at her astounded and said "Por." and she said, or maybe indicated, nevermind. For some reason she had wispered her request for $50 pesos in my ear, I'm not sure what that was about.

But this is nothing new. Several years ago I had more or less the same thing happen to me in San Jose, Costa Rica. In the famous bar there, is it the Blue Marlin in the Del Rey hotel? Anyway. Girl offers me "company" and I told her no as I had just had a massage. Then she asked me for money anyway? I asked her what for? Her response (she spoke excellent English, said she taught English at the university) was "because you have it and I don't".

Some of 'em have balls even if they aren't trannys.

Bob

Maybe it's all the Euro bucks and subsequent free-for-all spending in the past two years. I get that Madahos changed from it's beginning (which was awesome back "in the day") and Recoleta in general is now high buck but asking for propina for chatting is insane - I don't care which club.

I am not a cheap bastard and over the years have made my mistakes with "rates", etc. But this is not about money - it's principle. In the economic sense they are selling. To sell, they have to impress. If mongers are suckering for paying to "evaluate" then the "world" as I know is going to hell in a handbag.

I've never, ever berated anybody for whay they pay to take out a girl - to each his own - but tips for talking is an outright insult. If my event was unique / one-time weirdness I'll accept that but I get the sense it was not unique - I guarantee you it was not unique to this chica. If it's pervasive then mongers have to complain and certainly NOT pay for chit-chat. I told the girl that night that I might have come back some other day for her but after the demand to pay her for 10 minutes of talk there's no way I even greet her nicely in the future. If Madahos or any club condones that shit then fuck 'em - without any lube - prison style!

Zappaman

Zappa,

Think from the girls' POV - why not try? There will always be an idiot or two that will go along with it. Same thing with an outrageous asking price like 200-300USD. They probably won't get it but every once in a while, some stupid fuck will go along with it - so why not try?

This goes back to my ultimate reason for bargaining. If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)

[QUOTE=Combo]Zappa,

Think from the girls' POV - why not try? There will always be an idiot or two that will go along with it. Same thing with an outrageous asking price like 200-300USD. They probably won't get it but every once in a while, some stupid fuck will go along with it - so why not try?

This goes back to my ultimate reason for bargaining. If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)[/QUOTE][blue]Greetings Combo,

Very well stated, and a concept that should considered by those who think that paying a girl's asking price will yield her best performance, because it won't.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

It is all about going after what you want. They want money and ask for it straight away. As a non-local you are always at risk of getting the gringo price but when you get quoted in $USD you are getting the super-gringo price. They know if you have $USD you are more likely to pay a bigger price. I always tell them that I don't have $USD and make them give me the price in pesos. If you sound like a tourist you will get the tourist price. I'm sure they don't ask a local for $USD.

[QUOTE=Jackson][blue]Greetings Combo,

Very well stated, and a concept that should considered by those who think that paying a girl's asking price will yield her best performance, because it won't.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]True. But I've found if you like a girl, you agree to a price, you have a little fun and you want to see her again? I've found a nice tip really ups the quality of the second time—assuming too much time hasn't passed. She'll often take it as a nice compliment, be flattered and be even more fun the next.

[QUOTE=Sinistra]True. But I've found if you like a girl, you agree to a price, you have a little fun and you want to see her again? I've found a nice tip really ups the quality of the second time—assuming too much time hasn't passed. She'll often take it as a nice compliment, be flattered and be even more fun the next.[/QUOTE]Hola Sinsetra,

Giving a tip at the end of a session is all fine and good and your own personal business. The point would be to make sure you simply do not accept the first quote from the girl. They will ALL make a highball quote to a foreigner, a drunk local, whatever. Personally, and normally, if I really want the girl I usually don't ask how much - I offer what I will pay. I've been around town enough to know what's fair / the going rate so I just cut out the bullshit. Sometimes, I don't even discuss price - we just go (thanks Moondog - all hail Club Hombre - pre King Jackson days. However, to each their own.

I don't want to speak for Jackson, but I believe his point is if you don't negotiate you are a sucker (and subsequently an idiot) and they will treat you as such, one way or another. In 5 years of visiting BA I can vouch for that.

To get back to my earlier rant: I some of you are paying these girls to sit and talk / negotiate, etc. Then you are creating a whole shitload of trouble for a lot of people. If I / we stumble into a "high end" club and these girls think they can get profits just by trying to get our business then the gigs up man. Also, if someone is stupid enought to tip for chit chat only and then ever decide to return and actually take that girl out they will never be able to negotiate a fair price - ever. In the end, IMHO, it's not about the total amount of money - it's how you go about it. Be a man, be a gentleman, and in the end it usually works out well.

ZappaDork

Madahos turned into a real disappointment this year, compared to last year. I'm obviously a well-heeled American, in the past that didn't matter, prices were still negotiable. Not this week! AR$600 firm price, chica after chica, no negotiation possible. Two different girls patiently explained that Americans and Europeans should pay 3x more than Argentines because we have more money. I tried to point out that everything here (not imported) costs much less than in the US or Europe, so living here was cheaper, but suddenly their ability to understand my mostly English / some Spanish mix deteriorated to zero. Had a better time at La Lopez, even if the chicas weren't quite as cute overall they were more fun.

[QUOTE=BioGekko]Madahos turned into a real disappointment this year, compared to last year. I'm obviously a well-heeled American, in the past that didn't matter, prices were still negotiable. Not this week! AR$600 firm price, chica after chica, no negotiation possible. Two different girls patiently explained that Americans and Europeans should pay 3x more than Argentines because we have more money. I tried to point out that everything here (not imported) costs much less than in the US or Europe, so living here was cheaper, but suddenly their ability to understand my mostly English / some Spanish mix deteriorated to zero. Had a better time at La Lopez, even if the chicas weren't quite as cute overall they were more fun.[/QUOTE]I have tried explaining that same thing to them, and of course they have no idea what I am talking about.

It usually turns out I insulted the ***** and get thrown out, Madahos is one of the places I am banned from entering, along with Black and a few others. La lopez I keep a low profile. Anyway these bitches do not no any better.

600p an hour or TLN?