Black

Thanks, that actually makes sense. I'm sure that was her plan all along. I can't believe they actually try that and it works. I guess it must work sometime. I'm guessing a Tello is a short time hotel? That makes a lot of sense, I really didn't like her at my place and it would have been nice just to walk out if she got really annoying. How much is a Tello normally?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jeffrey88]Thanks, that actually makes sense. I'm sure that was her plan all along. I can't believe they actually try that and it works. I guess it must work sometime. I'm guessing a Tello is a short time hotel? That makes a lot of sense, I really didn't like her at my place and it would have been nice just to walk out if she got really annoying. How much is a Tello normally?

Thanks[/QUOTE]A former member knew about one in Congreso that was 19 pesos. There is one just down the street from Madaho that is like 60 or 80 pesos, well worth the price for the peace of mind.

Well played for a first-timer, Jeff. Most newbies would have been holding their dick and saying "anything you want, amor" to a girl who pulled this old trick. 120 pesos for two chica drinks is a normal price.

They were celebrating their 17th Anniversary or something, all the chicas were dressed like it was prom night, there were some dancers. 50p entrance, 60p chica drinks. Place was crowded, too crowded, had to nudge your way around. Many beautiful and gorgeous chicas, but many would not even discuss take out unless you bought them a drink. Wanted to get a feel for take out price, so finally was able to talk 2 chicas without buying them drinks. Take out would have been 300p for 1 1/2 hrs for one a Portena, and 2-3 hours for the other from Paraguay. But note all the chicas started out at some outrageous price like 900p. Overall impression, generally overpriced chicas with same quality as Madahos and La Lopez, with some luck you might find a bargain relatively speaking.

Dos Luna

IMHO. All this talk about the workers at Black - which are decent don't get me wrong, but in my opinion its the HOT ass pole dancers that deserve the $300US. Hell I'd pay $500 for that quality USDA prime, but they just won't go out, and I've thrown numbers at them before but no dice.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows anything about these pole dancers (besides the obvious)

As for the other girls that work at Blacks, it's a hit or miss and usually there's only 1 or 2 dime pieces (who usually tend to hold out till they get the drunk sucker that pays them $300US they're looking for) and the rest fall into the average bin.

My recommendation is if you're just in the mood to pick someone up that is good looking and not a lot of trouble, then go to Madahos or that other one across the street. Same quality, much less drama.

Below is a girl I picked up from that place across the street for Madahos. Not bad.

I posted my comparison of Madahos, La Lpoez and Black in the general category. I am posting the link here to avoid cross posting.

[url]http://argentinaprivate.com/forum/s...32&postcount=80[/url]

Ivana: Black hair, pretty face, good body, speaks excellent english, CBJ, passionate in performance AND classy. Took her out twice. She always looked out for my best interest. I don't want to give out details of how she saved money because that may get her in trouble. Daniel, one of the mangers told me that he would fire the girl and the waitress if I tell them who did the favors to me.: Highly recommend.

Sorry. Can't remember the name: Curly black hair, 22yr old from BA, spoke good english. I am experienced monger. I refuse to buy a drink unless we settle on the take out price, expected time in the room and expected activities. Stated off well but once we settled on all of the above she insisted on two drinks (WTF?), 40 peso tip to the "check out" guy (which I refused), insisted I tip the door man (which I refused) and to top it all off she tried to pull the typical Black's Taxi scam by asking for one of the taxis that apparently belong to Black. They look like a typical BA radio taxi except that they do not have the roof top light. They do not run the meter. At destination, they try to rip you off. My hotel was exactly 4 blocks away from Black. I noticed that the guy did not turn the meter on and I decided to have some fun. I got out and I handed him 5 pesos. The cabbie just sat there without saying a word, but my chica went nuts. She wanted me to give him 30 more pesos. I laughed and refused. I knew right then that this session was a no go, but I persuaded her to come up anyway. In the room as expected she asked for money upfront. I refused, she threatened to walk and I gladly opened the door for her. She wanted 100 pesos for the taxi. I laughed again and I did not give her 1 peso. She stormed out cursing me and my mother.

I freshened up, went out 15 minutes later and walked one block to La Lopez for the catch of the day.

There were several girls. Well guys, what can I say? I know, I know many of you will desagree. But Black, in my opinion it's a great club, all right, chica rates for newbies are fucking high and I know and the girls are even more stupid than their counterparts in other places, but I mean the club, by itself, remains somehow with the essence that moved me to be in love with Buenos Aires. Maybe it's the space, the large bar, the girls dancing on the bar and the ambience in general, the way the waitresses and the girls are waiting for your signals but without annoying. I don't know, there is something that I love about Black and from my point of view, it's a must visit before you leave BA, even if you don't get a girl from there.

Went there yesterday and I've seen almost locals only, there were just a few. Some of the guys leaved the place alone, seemed they just get there to either have a few drinks and probably collect phone numbers for the future. Beside the dancers, I have seen two or three girls that I liked. The point with Black it's they have different styles, I've noticed that each time I visited it, so you have busty, older, younger, taller, etc.

Yesterday was a great day to negotiate, as the place was not very crowded. I was talking to a girl and it took me less than 2 minutes to take her initial USD 200 to ar$350

However, I was only researching. At 4:00 AM the club closed, and many girls were exiting the club, just for research and investigation I followed one who rejected to take a cab, she walked in direction to take a bus. That's a bad night, I thought.

I agree, I always stop in Black every trip even if just for a look-see. About half the time (or a little more) I take someone out, other times I move on. It is always enjoyable to see the current lineup and selection and see what the 'top' club in BA has to offer.

Black is expensive by BA standards, but not compared with similar clubs in some other cities. $200 US (600 pesos) total for drinks at an upscale club and an hour back at your place with a young hottie, actually seems like a good deal once you've spent a week in an expensive city.

Sandy and Abril are two girls from Uruguay who work at Black. Sandy is a medium-height brunette and Abril is a taller blond. Both slim and attractive, and dressed more classy than slutty. I chatted with them awhile, but then said I wanted to look around a little more. I nursed my drink and continued enjoying one of my favorite pastimes... checking out a club full of attractive young women, exchanging eye contact and smiles, knowing I could have any one of them I wanted. I saw a few hotties who could be possibilities, but they turned out to be a little too business-like for me. Not friendly or warm enough.

Awhile later Sandy and Abril pass by and we chat a little more. I'm attracted to Sandy more and figure lets go for it. I offer to buy her a drink (making sure its an 80p one) and her friend says goodbye and leaves us alone. Sandy is not too touchy or intimate in the club but I hope that will change in private. We negotiate, I offer 400p she wants 500p and we agree on 450p. Part of the reason I agree on 450p was that I figured this was reasonable if I only bought one 80p drink. And (based on my last experience at Black) I was curious to test the waters and see if the girl or club would allow this or would try to enforce two drinks. Sure enough, Sandy insists I need to buy her another drink. I politely refuse. She goes to talk with her friend and then the waitress, at some point I believe they said it would be 120p total for drinks but I said I was only willing to buy the one 80p drink. After a couple minutes discussion the waitress comes over and asks if I want to settle the bill now, and clarifies it will only be the one 80p drink. Very good! One 80p drink it is. I pay and give the waitress a 20p tip.

At my hotel I had a good but not great time with Sandy. She has a fit, toned, tanned athletic body. Slim with muscular abs but still a very feminine look. Brunette, large b cups, very attractive face. She could be a sports model in my opinion. And, I have never in my life been with a girl who used her body like a fucking machine the way Sandy did. Her energy and strength were unbelievable. I remember doing her in missionary, where the guy usually does all the work, and she lifted her ass and back a foot off the bed and started pumping me rapidly back and forth while I just remained still on my knees and did nothing. Amazing. And she wasn't straining either, she could have probably kept going like this for a long time. As fun as all this was, there was no GFE on Sandy's part (no kissing, no BBBJ) and I could not keep up with her. I took off the condom and had her finish me with a baby oil handjob. She went and cleaned herself off right away and was soon dressed and ready to go. Probably would not repeat again, unless I got myself in better shape to keep up with her. An interesting challenge.

I'd have to say IMHO that Sandy "Fucked You" Esten, it was not the other way around. $450 peso's for this type of service is completely unexceptable. Buenos Aires is world famious for "Service" and you were not treated properly.

Exon

[QUOTE=Sidney]Both have an attitude problem. My guess, they are lesbians. Constantly, they argue loudly, violently, through the night. Both are too stupid to realize that I might pay them. I avoid them.[/QUOTE]Hey Sidney. That Dumb ***** Sandy came to Miami to dance and trick and when we got her the job, she never showed up. She is truely an airhead.

Went to Blacks tonight. For a first timer, it was an interesting experience compared to what I've encountered in the states. I speak some limited spanish and was able to talk (and buy drinks) for three girls.

The first:

Amira (goes by Amy) - tall Columbian, Argentine mix. She spoke very good English. I bought her a drink and she immediately quoted a $300 USD fee. I told her was too expensive. I also told her I was undecided. Frankly, she was probably one of the hottest (if not the hottest) in the club. Unfortunately, she came across as totally mercenary and I decided that I would pass on her.

Celeste - short Paraguayan, all natural. I was pleased to meet Celeste. She had some limited English. She has a daughter but it doesn't really show in her figure. It was a good opportunity to practice my spanish. I ended up buying two drinks for her. She eventually brought up the question of visiting the Hotel. She seemed more flexible on rates and also seemed willing to negotiate on pesos. I told her to check back in 30 minutes as I wanted to speak to some other girls. She was OK with this.

Diane - Diane was the last girl that I bought a drink for. She was very aggressive and basically kept saying, "me give you good service" which seemed like the equivalent of "me love you long time". Despite the limited english, Diane was a true Argentine: attractive, tall, natural, and all over me. This would normally be a good thing but I hit a snag. She had bad breath. If I had to guess, I think that Diane had just returned from fucking some customer and was looking for the second score of the night. The cock breath really didn't do it for me so I had to graciously decline. It was unfortunate as she probably would have been the best overall experience.

Now for the costs. I think I ended up buying 4 drinks in total. Each drink was priced at 120p. I had no idea how to get the 80p drinks as most of the girls were ordering and the Spanish was too fast. Ugh. Secondly, I forgot about the taxi scam as I was leaving. Sure enough, they didn't run the meter and I ended up getting charge 40p for a trip from Recoleta to Puerto Madera.

All in, the trip set me back 50p (cover) + 480p (drinks) + 40p (return) = 570p. Definitely not the most economical use of funds.

I ended up back at my hotel alone.

I have noticed that in Black also, if you agree to buy a chica a drink she will talk directly with the hostess and you may not be able to hear or understand what is being said. If you don't speak up, my guess is you will be charged the 120p drink fee rather than the 80p drink.

The downside to buying the cheapest 80p drink is that it may be more difficult to negotiate a deal to take the chica out. Recently I bought a drink for a Paraguayan girl in Black by the name of Lise. She is a brunette, tall, slim, great rack (large C) and beautiful face. Very hot - in the top 10% in Black I would say. When I offered to buy her a drink I said it's 80p right? She said she wasn't sure what the prices were (a lie) She waived the hostess over and they spoke quickly. I spoke up to make sure it would be a 80p drink and the hostess confirmed yes.

Lise and I chatted for awhile, her standing between my legs at an angle so I had a great direct view of her cleavage the entire time (on purpose on her part, I'm sure) She wasn't as warm with me as other girls have been, but she was nice. We started negotiations, she said her price was 750p. I countered I usually pay 400p but would be willing to go up to 500p. She said her minimum was 600p. She was hot and I wanted her, so I agreed to splurge for her 600p. But then I clarified this is with the one drink, right? She said oh no, I need to buy other drink. I was firm that I would not buy a second drink, and she wouldn't budge either. So the deal fell through and she soon left.