2012 Elections in the USA

Is this best that you can do Esten? How pathetic.

One the last bastions of those who have run out of arguments and ideas is to start name calling.

When I left Arthur Anderson and started my own practice I left hundreds of other CPAs behind. Over time my practice continued to grow and I hired others to work for me. Any of the CPAs working for me can do the same this very minute. Just as any of the CPAs I left behind at AA could have left as well and started practices, but they don't. They prefer to work for others and not take the risk.

It is the few who 'do' and the many who 'don't'. I have no problem with those who 'don't' and CHOOSE to be employees. I have no syndrome what so ever beyond the willingness to take the risk associated with starting a business and producing a product the market will purchase. I take the risks and reap rewards. I have made both stupid and brilliant decisions from which only I lose or profit.

It is unrepentant capitalism which made this country great, offering the ability to make the better mouse trap and prosper. It is the qusi-socialist, everyone has to share, 'it's not fair' mentality which will destroy this great country.

When I see the 'Occupy' people out there with their 99% vs 1% signs it makes me ill.

As I saw my son-in-law off to his first deployment to Afghanistan yesterday, I saw another family member holding a sign with the photo of a soldier at the top of a hill at sunrise. The caption read 99% of Americans will wake up this morning and enjoy freedom. 1% of Americans will wake up this morning and defend it. My friend, those are the true 1%ers

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;422831]As I saw my son-in-law off to his first deployment to Afghanistan yesterday, I saw another family member holding a sign with the photo of a soldier at the top of a hill at sunrise. The caption read 99% of Americans will wake up this morning and enjoy freedom. 1% of Americans will wake up this morning and defend it. My friend, those are the true 1%ers[/QUOTE]Sadly WT69, Esten and the like have neither the education or intelligence to understand such an eloquent arguement dude. They are too busy howling at the moon.

By the way, as I predicted long ago on this board Romney is now the GOP presidential candidate. In November, the other half of my long ago prediction will come true. Tick. Tick. Tick, Monger on Dude. Toymann

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/report-gop-outside-groups-plan-spend-more-1-142453576.html[/url]

Interesting article on Yahoo today. What happened to the great Obama fund raising machine. You mean the "occupy people" aren't opening their wallets to support their great leader. IALOTFLMAO! Tick! Tick! Tick! And you all thought the 2010 democrat slaughter was impressive. Just wait till November! Happy Mongering All. Toymann.

Ps. One thing about Obamanation. He sure knows how to fire up the republican base! And he thinks Romney is "out of touch". Give me a friggin break!

First Doppel said employees are people who "can't". Now he says they "can".

Pure backpeddling. If it were an isolated occurence I might be inclined to cut him some slack. However this attitude of superiority has reared it's ugly head before, and is a theme that runs through his entire discourse on business and the economy. He may not like the name, but IMO Doppel is an elitist. Just a statement of fact as I see it.

What does military service have to do with this discussion? Nothing. I gather he segued into that as a play for sympathy or respect, after what he said. Well he's played that card now, and will need a new ploy next time. Maybe next time his true colors become too obvious, he'll tell us how as a kid his puppy got sick, or how he once helped an old lady cross the street.

Right wing businessmen seem to forget how the Golden Age of Capitalism (~ 1945-1975) coincided with significant government initiatives and investments, and the highest tax rates in the past century. It was balanced capitalism. Again we are reminded that business success does not teach one how to build a strong economy.

Watch this.

[url]http://www.history.com/shows/hatfields-and-mccoys[/url]

North against the South or as now Republicans against Democrats.

Same war different times.

They were families against each other.

What has changed?

Only Money!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 422828]Something we don't hear about in mainstream media is what happened in Iceland. The people revolted. They kicked out the entire government and kicked out the banksters. It started because the "women" had enough and weren't going to take it anymore.

The women started the "Pots and Pan Brigade."

They got together and banged pots and pans with metal spoons, etc. And made a enough noise loud enough that everyone in the government and everywhere else could hear it. They apparently stood outside government buildings and did this. Politicians were left cowering in their offices. After they took down their entire government, they jailed politicians and government officials.

Essentially they took their country back. The women inspired other women, then they inspired men.

There is going to be a "worldwide pots and pan brigade" on Thursday May 31, 2012.

From a News Story:

THE LADIES STEPPED UP AND RECOVERED THEIR COUNTRY'S ECONOMY.

The government of Iceland has forgiven the mortgage debt for much of its population. This nation chose a very different way of stopping the crisis from the rest of European countries. It decided to hear the requests of the population and to put politicians and bankers on the bench of the accused three years after their financial excesses would sank one of the most prosperous economies in 2008.[/QUOTE]Hey WT,

Is this what you want for America? A country run by it's women?

Then why did you post this bullshit?

Of course, by many measures the USA is already a gynocracy.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Esten;422853].business success does not teach one how to build a strong economy.[/QUOTE]Esten,

Do you ever read some of the things you write?

So exactly what experience does "[i]teach one how to build a strong economy[/i]"?

A few years as a college law professor?

Lifetime employment as a government bureaucrat?

A professional career as a liberal politician?

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks,

Jackson

Esten, the only conclusion I can arrive at is you are blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to this discussion and anyone who disagrees with your point of view.

Esten do you even read the post before you start your response? You follow the great tradition of all liberals by taking "can" completely out of context. The only time I referred to "can" is when I pointed out those who CHOOSE to remain employees have the same opportunity to start a business but do not and prefer to not take the risk. Again, those who can, do; those who can't, don't. How can you even argue the point?

Again read the post, the "Occupy" movement always refers to the 99%, are you so inarticulate you are unable to make the connection between the 'Occupy' 99% and the 99% in the following sentence?

The 'Golden Age' you referred to was marked by much less regulation by the Federal Government and its subsequent interference with business, making my point of less not more Government intrusion into business for me.

Esten, for your edification here is the definition of elite or elitist: A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status.

The only one I see here who believes his views are superior to all others and anyone who disagrees with his views are barbarians would be you.

I see you are back to name calling again. Please be a bit more original. Surely you can do better than those on MSNBC

Many people are qualified to build a strong economy.

I can tell you the qualifications of someone who is completely unqualified to build a strong economy.

A few years as a college law professor.

Lifetime employment as a government bureaucrat.

A professional career as a liberal politician.

Expecting Obama to build a strong economy is similar to expecting a midget to be MVP in the NBA

Their Government took off all the regulations. They Privatized the banks.

"The people revolted. They kicked out the entire government and kicked out the banksters."

And we did nothing to our crooks!

http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/

[QUOTE=Jackson; 422859]Hey WT,

Is this what you want for America? A country run by it's women?

Then why did you post this bullshit?

Of course, by many measures the USA is already a gynocracy.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Really, it was not that long ago, so how did we get to this stage? Yes, it is all about money. Not that money is evil, we need it to put food on the table and a roof over our head. America, the richest country with the highest standard of living is beyond this point. It is the next stage that get us in trouble, the allure of over consumption and spending, and the prestige and status that the comes along with material goods. Human greed, nothing new.

Personal responsiblity vs corporate responsiblity. At one time, Las Vegas was where you could fulfill your fantasies once or twice a year. I lost my ass many-a-time, but the fun was memorable and was inexpensive compared to the table losses. As with the financial institutions of today, you had to be wary of the easy credit suggested by the ever-present pit boss. Yes, America today is one giant Las Vegas. The Mafia is still alive and doing even better. We are wading in the swamp with housing mortgages, credit cards and student loans all in crisis. On the sideline, education and healthcare costs are spiraling. Like the free / cheap buffets / shows of yesteryear Las Vegas, they are long gone. Las Vegas has gone corporate.

So, for the drill-baby-drill crowd, pause, and try to suck in some fresh air (if you can find it). At some point, more does not mean better. We know any addiction is hard to break. I am still over spending in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 422864]Their Government took off all the regulations. They Privatized the banks.

"The people revolted. They kicked out the entire government and kicked out the banksters."

And we did nothing to our crooks!

[url]http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/[/url][/QUOTE]No, no, no, you don't get to pretend that you didn't post what you actually posted.

Here's what you posted:

[quote]It started because the "[B]women[/B]" had enough and weren't going to take it anymore.

The [B]women[/B] started the "Pots and Pan Brigade."

They got together and banged pots and pans with metal spoons, etc. And made a enough noise loud enough that everyone in the government and everywhere else could hear it. They apparently stood outside government buildings and did this. Politicians were left cowering in their offices. After they took down their entire government, they jailed politicians and government officials.

Essentially they took their country back. The [B]women[/B] inspired other [B]women[/B], then they inspired men.[/QUOTE]So I'm going to ask you again:

Is this what you want?

Do you advocate a country run by women?

Do you want to be governed by women?

If not, then why did you post this?

Please explain.

Thanks,

Jackson

The women started the protest.

Just like us ex-long hairs did protesting the Vietnam War. We protesters in the streets started the ball rolling.

We banged pots and beat on drums. We made noise.

You asked if I wanted a country run by women?

That is not what was said.

Where did you pick that up from?

http://www.hermes-press.com/iceland_index.htm

[QUOTE=Jackson; 422872]No, no, no, you don't get to pretend that you didn't post what you actually posted.

Here's what you posted:

So I'm going to ask you again:

Is this what you want?

Do you advocate a country run by women?

Do you want to be governed by women?

If not, then why did you post this?

Please explain.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Here's some more definitions for you Doppel:
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=elitist[/url]

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;422831]One the last bastions of those who have run out of arguments and ideas is to start name calling.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Doppelganger;422862]Esten, the only conclusion I can arrive at is you are blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to this discussion[/QUOTE] LMAO !!

[QUOTE=Esten; 422879]Here's some more definitions for you Doppel:

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=elitist[/url]

LMAO![/QUOTE]Esten, you have just provided the description of yourself to a "T".

Do you even read what others post before responding or what you quote from their post? From your responses it does not appear you do.

Still calling those who do not agree with you names, very sad.