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[QUOTE=Black Shirt;430491]With the SS costs of living cuts down the road, I am going to have to abandon my penis enlargement surgery and also my dream of buying a harem.[/QUOTE]You're just upset about those 19 Uzbek chickies that got popped over on Soi 3 the other night. Don't worry, I'm sure there's more where they came from.:)
[QUOTE=Doggboy;430496]You're just upset about those 19 Uzbek chickies that got popped over on Soi 3 the other night. Don't worry, I'm sure there's more where they came from.:)[/QUOTE]I can't hide anything from you. By the way, congrats on winning the AP Pulitzer prize for 2012.
Traveling overseas, I often get asked: 'What's wrong with you people over there killing each other with guns all the time? '
What's there to say other than saying: 'We have that right to bear arms? It is written in our Constitution? '
With the typical Republican TEA Party members reacting like Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas "wishing" that the now deceased Principal of the Newtown Elementary School in Connecticut "had a M-1 Assault Rifle in her office to use" or the delusional GOP Governor of Texas, Rick Perry stating: "let teachers carry concealed weapons" one really has to wonder. What's this fixation with guns?
Maybe I should carry a gun when visiting my dentist, my mechanic, or GOD forbid - the DMV? Or, how about the Post Office? Yes, let all those Postal workers walk around with guns as well!
When approximately 40% of the gun sales in the US do not require a criminal background check, that is wrong and idiotic. (i.e., gun auctions, private sales, etc)
When there are laws that allow a citizen to carry a concealed weapon on a college campus, church, bar, etc – that is ludicrous.
When there are laws allowing citizens to use and have armor-piercing ammunition, well, let's just say that is absurd.
With RED states like Wyoming that are actually considering the legal use of silencers?
I say: "God Bless America."
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[QUOTE=Moveon; 430508]Traveling overseas, I often get asked: 'What's wrong with you people over there killing each other with guns all the time? '
What's there to say other than saying: 'We have that right to bear arms? It is written in our Constitution? '
With the typical Republican TEA Party members reacting like Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas "wishing" that the now deceased Principal of the Newtown Elementary School in Connecticut "had a M-1 Assault Rifle in her office to use" or the delusional GOP Governor of Texas, Rick Perry stating: "let teachers carry concealed weapons" one really has to wonder. What's this fixation with guns?
Maybe I should carry a gun when visiting my dentist, my mechanic, or GOD forbid. The DMV? Or, how about the Post Office? Yes, let all those Postal workers walk around with guns as well!
When approximately 40% of the gun sales in the US do not require a criminal background check, that is wrong and idiotic. (I. E, gun auctions, private sales, etc)
When there are laws that allow a citizen to carry a concealed weapon on a college campus, church, bar, etc – that is ludicrous.
When there are laws allowing citizens to use and have armor-piercing ammunition, well, let's just say that is absurd.
With RED states like Wyoming that are actually considering the legal use of silencers?
I say: "God Bless America."
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[QUOTE=Rocky2;430514]You want only the bad guys armed[/QUOTE]Yeah, current laws allow citizens to carry guns so they can take out people who go on shooting rampages, that's really working well isn't it.
[QUOTE=Esten;430518]Yeah, current laws allow citizens to carry guns so they can take out people who go on shooting rampages, that's really working well isn't it.[/QUOTE]Right to own in your home vs right to carry / concealed carry so you can be armed at the right time (or all the time) to try and interdict the rampager are two totally separate issues. Many recent rampage events including latest one in CT occurred on grounds where state or local institutional regs (eg school board employment rules) prevented adult residents from being armed in the first place.
You're trying to imply that rampages have happened in concealed carry states with significant portion of state residents freely able to carry and not blocked by local employment regs whether the state allows it but yet was unable to and hence carrying firearms don't help.
Can you name an example please where a rampage occurred in an unrestricted gun control state and where the local institution didn't restrict armed carry and therefore where these hapless armed adult residents did nothing to prevent the crime?
(As opposed to aforementioned Texas where you hear about citizens shooting a gun toting criminal in the act of committing a crime all the time)
[QUOTE=Dickhead;430528]Are you drunk? I can barely understand you. You need see Vanna White and buy some commas. But Columbine qualifies. CO is pretty unrestricted and Englewood has no further restrictions beyond CO. And anyway, what difference does it make what the state law is if your mother is a fucking gun nut and has 20 guns for you to choose from? Why would it matter? And unless we enact customs-like borders between the states, what does it matter if it is unrestricted in one state vs. Restricted in another? Does the name Virginia have any significance to you? Like now pot is legal in WA; good luck keeping it out of Idaho. Guns, same thing.[/QUOTE]
Why open with such a provocation when I have directed none at you?
Esten made the allegation that citizens toting guns has made no difference in the outcome of rampage shootings. Implying that there were situations where rampages occurred in locations where people actually were or at least had unrestricted rights to be armed yet failed to prevent or deter.
Quote. "Yeah, current laws allow citizens to carry guns so they can take out people who go on shooting rampages, that's really working well isn't it."
My sole point was that in my opinion Esten's statement saying armed residents have made no difference is not valid unless there is sufficient examples where rampages occurred at a location with armed residents.
Columbine does not qualify because regardless of CO state carry laws, the school had a no firearms on premise regs and hence no teachers had the unrestricted choice to be armed. May still not have made a difference but that wasn't my point. If someone is going to say having X present failed to prevent Y occurring, then it's reasonable to ask show us sufficient examples where X indeed was there.
You're right Mpexy, it's a more complicated argument and it depends on local gun laws.
I'm just talking to this general argument that gun ownership is a good thing because it deters or stops crime. Some may argue we need more freedom to own and carry guns, but I have no interest in that debate. I am tired of the almost daily news stories of people getting injured or killed by guns, let alone the massacres. I do not see how more guns will have a significant benefit. I think we need very, very strict gun laws and they need to be enforced.
And once again, as I've said before, this is another area where Americans suffer at the hands of the GOP.
A game of one upmanship of the latest idiot from both sides of the political aisle that gets caught red handed against their stated principles is one neither side can win.
There has always been politicians from both sides proclaiming themselves as family values icons, then falling spectacularly from grace, unless you are conveniently ignoring the suck ass democrat family values politicos along with the suck ass conservatives.
Example. Couple months ago, self proclaimed family values senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ) put out a campaign commercial touting his family values over his repub opponent. Five days later the story broke re: his mongering in the Dominican Repub because the idiot clashed with couple of hookers over not paying their fee.
That doesn't make democrats or republicans, liberals or conservatives, any worse or better than the other in my opinion. Seems there are just as many suck ass hypocrites on both sides.
Do you ever have any original thoughts?
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Let the New Year Begin.
Down with Ruling Class, AKA the Republicans.
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WAR + Bush's debt.
On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?
There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'the like to know.
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