Hook

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439445]
For perspective,

The guy at the kiosko makes around 6,000 per month for 6 days a week.

A doctor friend of mine (MD) earns 1500 pesos for a 24 hour shift as the Doc in charge of a clinic.

Waiters, around 8,000 a month.

A buddy of mine that has a "good" government job, 14K per month.

Accountant with many, many, many years experience; 20K

Yes prostitutes earn well, but not more than doctors.[/QUOTE]I interact with a bunch of non pros ( they are not jookers, or part time hookers but regular girls met in social circles) in the capital. Mostly aged 25 ~ 30 years. Most of them earn about 4500 ~ 6000 pesos a month working 9 to 5 jobs, 5 days a week. Most of them have college education/technical education and are actually satisfied with their jobs.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439445]I do agree with Peter though, Monica (new bartender at Hook) is FUCKING awesome. Such an improvement over that old fat piece of shit that used to work there.

[/QUOTE]Monica was one of the bartenders years ago at Madahos then moved to La Lopez with her husband who worked the door. She drifted around working different bars and I was very pleased to find her working at Hook back in January this year. She is a great gal. FYI her husband bought her some bolt-ons a few years ago which were a great improvement. She is a great girl.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439445]There are 30 K sex workers in this town, I just tell chicks like that to fuck off. I took a guy to Hook last night and he wanted to take a chick home for a couple hours, she quoted 1000 per hour, it's fucking laughable. Later at Excedra a chick that I have banged several times for two hours for a total of 600 wanted 800 per hour. Again, fucking laughable. He's a well seasoned qualified monger who was here for his first time. I admired his willingness to just tell them to take off.

By the time he would have paid the bar fines on the Hooks chick he would have spent more than he did in the US. In his words "In the Philippines I can have a chick spend 24 hours a day for a week with me for that much.".

Living here it's possible to develop deals with the girls (I had a new regular call me the other day to see if she and a friend of hers could stop by on the way to work, two girls, two hours, 1400 P, they know I understand what Pesos are worth) but I'm afraid the nighttime scene is fucking done for guys just coming here for a short time. They can get laid cheaper back in the states.

I do agree with Peter though, Monica (new bartender at Hook) is FUCKING awesome. Such an improvement over that old fat piece of shit that used to work there.

For perspective,

The guy at the kiosko makes around 6,000 per month for 6 days a week.

A doctor friend of mine (MD) earns 1500 pesos for a 24 hour shift as the Doc in charge of a clinic.

Waiters, around 8,000 a month.

A buddy of mine that has a "good" government job, 14K per month.

Accountant with many, many, many years experience; 20K

Yes prostitutes earn well, but not more than doctors.[/QUOTE]Thank you DR! I've been saying this for a while and everybody has been telling me I'm wrong. There are plenty of good reasonably priced women around. Why don't we get together and open our own club that offers good service and quality at a reasonable price? Oh?? True, this is Argentina and the Argies would rather pay twice the price for rip off service. Sorry, I forgot about that..

Monica the bartender must have started at least by November 2013 because she remembered me. She pours stiffs ones and even asked me if I wanted more alcohol.

The sticker shock for me is the chica drinks which are now up to 250 P. Since I have been taking out a regular recently I always take two hours so currently you are at 650 P plus taxi fees (75 P?) before you pay the girl.

My favorite was looking good. She lost a two or three pounds and looks great in that g-string. She has learned a move or two since I last saw her. Daddy Rulz swore up and down today that he was not the one who taught her. I surprised nobody has put her on a retainer and made her exclusive. In my mind, she is a decent, good-looking church-going girl with a dancer's body. I may be just blind to it. Nobody ever mentions her on the local boards either.

I saw a few new girls since November in Hook that certainly looked fun. Almost every girl in there I would do with only the price holding me back on some. At least 5 or 6 worth the $150 minimum assuming 1000 P for the first hour. Hook is a good option if you have $150 to $300 to spend for a night on the town.

So, I wound up spending 5 TLN with Tamara in about 9 days. NOT the best looking but a hot dancer body and amazing personality and great service. Intelligent and able to hold conversation with my basic Spanish. If you go to Hook and you getting ignored by the barbie dolls there just tell Monica at the bar that Pete told you to ask for Tamara. Monica will poor you a stiff one, 4 oz bourbon in my case, and Tamara will give you a stiff one right there in the club. I will post her phone number once I confirm she is OK with this but if you are a TLN kinda guy, which I find many of us older guys are, then she is totally worth it. BTW, I left 5000+ pesos, an iphone and an Ipad sitting out and got a shower (slipped my mind they were not in the safe) and slept 5 nights with the girl and not only did she not steal from me, but in fact bought me a nice gift out of the blue! Tell her I said Hello, if you go..Some Argentine guy should be begging this girl to be Novia. Sort of amiganovia when I am town I can tell you. Not the skills of some others but is the whole package- relaxing. I agree with BBM last post, but 125-150 for 8+ hours and great company not so bad considering that when I take woman out in Spain, Germany, England, the US etc. On a real date the flowers, taxi and tip along surpass this with no expectation of any contact. Time is money and spending hours looking for the cheaper version sometimes costs me more than just paying a little extra for those I trust which should be clear include this woman and anything Gysell or TL recommend.

Pete.

Gentlemen,

After the conversation below, I thought it was the end of the matter. However, she got in touch again saying will be interested to meet me for 1000 pesos.

So I messaged her explaining " I only like relaxed sex. I do not like to hear after 15 minutes, *Rapido Rapido, dame me tu leche.* I like to be sucked more than penetrative sex and I like to be sucked only without condom, I will pay you 1000 pesos for 2 hours".

Oh my god! She wrote me 100's of whatsapp messages after this message explaining, what a bad person (can not write the expletives) I am. And that I consider women as slaves and dog. And that she not my private *****. And that she has never sucked anyone without a condom all her career or spent more than 1 hour in anyone's home. Bla blah blah.

I even learnt a new slang word. She told me "curtite" which among many other meanings also means " fuck off".

What I have realized with any of these working girls, who demand money in dollars to just politely say good bye to them right in the first conversation. Its impossible to expect a good service from them. The best service providers are the ones who charge the least.

Another example of my dollar theory is that I recently sampled a girl who posts on this forum sometimes and demands dollars in private message exchange. I said to myself, what the heck. Lets do this experiment. Called her home. She arrived 45 minutes late and gave really awful service. Said she does not do tongue kissing with clients and she has not even sucked her own bf for so long as she sucked me. Bla bla I did not report her here, as she is a favorite of some senior mongers here (because apparently she loves cola) and I did not want to hurt their emotions about her. My case point is, that avoid any girl like a plague if she asks for dollars. Because the more she asks, the less flexible she would be in bed.

[QUOTE=Member#3320;439438]I have not been to Hook for some years now. Not a fan of "0200 in the night" mongering.

Someone passed me the phone number of Valery, apparently she is ex-hook or still at Hook.

Sent her a whatsapp message. She quoted me 250 us $ right off the bat! I counter proposed 1000 pesos. She told me to go to hell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#3320;439471]Gentlemen,

After the conversation below, I thought it was the end of the matter. However, she got in touch again saying will be interested to meet me for 1000 pesos.

So I messaged her explaining " I only like relaxed sex. I do not like to hear after 15 minutes, *Rapido Rapido, dame me tu leche.* I like to be sucked more than penetrative sex and I like to be sucked only without condom, I will pay you 1000 pesos for 2 hours".

Oh my god! She wrote me 100's of whatsapp messages after this message explaining, what a bad person (can not write the expletives) I am. And that I consider women as slaves and dog. And that she not my private *****. And that she has never sucked anyone without a condom all her career or spent more than 1 hour in anyone's home. Bla blah blah.

I even learnt a new slang word. She told me "curtite" which among many other meanings also means " fuck off".

What I have realized with any of these working girls, who demand money in dollars to just politely say good bye to them right in the first conversation. Its impossible to expect a good service from them. The best service providers are the ones who charge the least.

Another example of my dollar theory is that I recently sampled a girl who posts on this forum sometimes and demands dollars in private message exchange. I said to myself, what the heck. Lets do this experiment. Called her home. She arrived 45 minutes late and gave really awful service. Said she does not do tongue kissing with clients and she has not even sucked her own bf for so long as she sucked me. Bla bla I did not report her here, as she is a favorite of some senior mongers here (because apparently she loves cola) and I did not want to hurt their emotions about her. My case point is, that avoid any girl like a plague if she asks for dollars. Because the more she asks, the less flexible she would be in bed.[/QUOTE]But not on this, I offer them 600 for two hours, seriously I know what pesos are worth. If they don't want to take it, I refuse to fight with them. There are 30 fucking thousand sex workers in this town, just learn to say two words, "no" and "next.".

As to the other one you're talking about, I recently had an exchange of PM's with her. She initiated it, saying that the number of her clients is dropping off (She blamed TL, because it can't be her) and why haven't I seen her? When I told her I've never called you because too many guys have spoken poorly of your services. Your opinion of yourself is FAR too high, and your opinion of your customers too low. I offered her my standard deal, 600 pesos for two hours.

I deleted her answer but apoplectic would be the word I would use to describe it.

I'm not sure how many times I have to say it but I'll keep trying. You can get VERY well laid in this town Mon-Sat (during the daytime) for 500 pesos. Two good rules of thumb, if they speak English or want dollars, just cross them off and move on. I just had two great girls, 23 and 24 who could be the new WWF tag team champs, at the house for two hours for 700 a piece last week.

I went to Hook Saturday night. Monica, the bartender, said " You must be in love." I said, "I hope not. Falling in love in my experience is too expensive." Monica replied, "That's the truth.".

I start sipping my drink and suddenly realize my favorite is there with another guy. I am thinking that he must be a regular because my favorite will not even make eye contact. Usually the girls will at least give you a kiss on the cheek when they pass by if they know you even when they are with someone else.

In the meantime, Monica tells me that my favorite told her that she will be available in 90 minutes if I can wait. I tell Monica that I do not think I will wait.

My favorite leaves with the guy. I proceed to talk with three girls finally choosing the third and buying her a drink. The girl goes to change clothes and within a minute or two, my favorite walks up behind me and gives me a kiss.

My favorite goes to put her purse away and Monica quickly comes up to me and asks if I want to go with the new girl or my favorite. She says it is no problem and she can fix it. I choose my favorite. Daddy Rulz rules one strike against Big Boss Man. The smart move is to take the new girl out.

Bring the favorite home and we try something a little different. The favorite is slightly hesitant at first but then becomes game.

After the sex, I try to start working the off-hours game. The best she will do is come at 11:30 PM but then needs to be at the club by 1:00 AM. "Her baby needs her and comes first" she says. It seems rushed to me so I say I will just meet her at the club. My favorite gets her way. Strike 2 on Big Boss Man's being a player in this at bat.

I do not know if I have struck out yet but with warning shots from both Monica and Daddy Rulz in the last 24 hours, I better begin expanding my horizons. I always seem to find one girl I like on every trip. Since I do not live here it is foolish for my favorite to change her life for me. I might found my limit with her. Really nice girl though.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439472]But not on this, I offer them 600 for two hours, seriously I know what pesos are worth. If they don't want to take it, I refuse to fight with them. There are 30 fucking thousand sex workers in this town, just learn to say two words, "no" and "next.".

As to the other one you're talking about, I recently had an exchange of PM's with her. She initiated it, saying that the number of her clients is dropping off (She blamed TL, because it can't be her) and why haven't I seen her? When I told her I've never called you because too many guys have spoken poorly of your services. Your opinion of yourself is FAR too high, and your opinion of your customers too low. I offered her my standard deal, 600 pesos for two hours.

I deleted her answer but apoplectic would be the word I would use to describe it.

I'm not sure how many times I have to say it but I'll keep trying. You can get VERY well laid in this town Mon-Sat (during the daytime) for 500 pesos. Two good rules of thumb, if they speak English or want dollars, just cross them off and move on. I just had two great girls, 23 and 24 who could be the new WWF tag team champs, at the house for two hours for 700 a piece last week.[/QUOTE]Really!

How could an ignorant Hooker blame TL?

There is someone on this board that can't understand why I do not recommend her.

I told her that I can't recommend Someone that I have never sampled!

It's really annoying!

She thinks that I advise people to not fuck her !

A huge joke ! Why would I do that? Hello , I have paid for worse !

She is well known and highly regarded on this board but god damn it Boys!

Let her fuck herself to the top on her own!

Ok! Name that ****!

Thanks,

TL.








From the hospital in Mendoza.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;439476]I proceed to talk with three girls finally choosing the third and buying her a drink. The girl goes to change clothes and within a minute or two, my favorite walks up behind me and gives me a kiss.[/QUOTE]Nice report Big Boss. I was there twice this trip and could not get a girl to talk to me. Your ability to interview 3 girls and only buy a drink for one in Hook is respectable. That said though, I don't ask waiters to bring me girls and I don't schmooz the bartender, though I always tip Monica very well because she's pleasant and efficient. It always makes me feel a little uncomfortable for management to tell someone to come talk to me. I'd rather the girl choose to do that. Maybe using Monica's clout is the best or only way now to interview prospects and control cost.

A thought..Monica kicks ass.

I was being bothered by 3 Dominicans who were trying to split me from the girl I was speaking with. They in Spanish were basically telling her that I was theirs for reasons I can't figure out even now. The girl I was "talking" with was discussing it and holding her own but trying to be civil; not something the others seemed to care about. I simply looked at Monica, pointed at the three girls, and waived my hand like shoo fly. She instantly walked over, filled 4 oz of whiskey and in literally one sentence to the Dominicans sent them scattering like roaches when the light is turned on. I don't know the arrangement at Hook but it is clear that Monica falls in the chain somewhere below the manager (a nice guy to me) but far above the bouncer, the door dude, and certainly far above the dancers and other women. I think she should get her own blog on here.

Pete.

[QUOTE=HappyGoLucky;439483]Nice report Big Boss. I was there twice this trip and could not get a girl to talk to me. Your ability to interview 3 girls and only buy a drink for one in Hook is respectable. That said though, I don't ask waiters to bring me girls and I don't schmooz the bartender, though I always tip Monica very well because she's pleasant and efficient. It always makes me feel a little uncomfortable for management to tell someone to come talk to me. I'd rather the girl choose to do that. Maybe using Monica's clout is the best or only way now to interview prospects and control cost.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterSideburn;439486]A thought..Monica kicks ass.
I don't know the arrangement at Hook but it is clear that Monica falls in the chain somewhere below the manager (a nice guy to me) but far above the bouncer, the door dude, and certainly far above the dancers and other women. I think she should get her own blog on here.
Pete.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a great relationship with the staff Peter; that has it's own perks.

From my standpoint and experiences in Hook thus far, the girls don't want my pesos. (But, they did in several other viable establishments in the vicinity).

And as has been mentioned elsewhere, there are about 30,000 other choices in town...

I went out with Vicky from Hook last night. For you Spanish-challenged guys, her English is decent so I was able to have a conversation with her without using Google Translate. She definitely has a trick or two that she has learned to use in bed. She gave me the "you have a nice thick cock" speech after sex which is always a boost to the ego.

I laid the money on a table and she put it in her purse without counting. I asked her, "Aren't you going to count?" She said "I trust you." I made her take it out of her purse and count it. I told her to always count the money. I might have made a mistake. Can't let these girls get into bad habits.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;439501]I made her take it out of her purse and count it. I told her to always count the money. I might have made a mistake. Can't let these girls get into bad habits.[/QUOTE]A regular whom I was seeing for a year. I always used to pay her and she used to never count. The last time, I ever saw her, it was the same. I gave her the money and she never counted. I am very careful with money. I always count it 3 times, wrap it up in a rubberband before going to see a chica. So after I leave her apartment, she messages me, that I gave her 200 less. I was sure, I did not. Anyway, I went back to her on another day and paid her 200. But decided not to see her again.

Lesson learnt: Make them count.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;439501]I went out with Vicky from Hook last night. For you Spanish-challenged guys, her English is decent so I was able to have a conversation with her without using Google Translate. She definitely has a trick or two that she has learned to use in bed. She gave me the "you have a nice thick cock" speech after sex which is always a boost to the ego.

I laid the money on a table and she put it in her purse without counting. I asked her, "Aren't you going to count?" She said "I trust you." I made her take it out of her purse and count it. I told her to always count the money. I might have made a mistake. Can't let these girls get into bad habits.[/QUOTE]I am meeting too many chicas which probably is not a bad thing.