American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[QUOTE=Punter 127;431614]Let me be very clear here, I general try to respond in a positive way to request, but I respond to demands with resistance, and I have a tendency to respond aggressively to threatening demands. I took your post as something between a demand and a threatening demand, it certainly was not a request or a challenge from my view. You demanded I do something and you gave me a limited amount of time to comply, as if I would be punished if I failed to comply. I decided it was in everyones best interest to ignore you, just as you have refused to address certain question and refused to discuss some things in the past. Now however if you want to push the issue I will reply, but only in person face to face. You got the balls to talk about it face to face or do you need to grow a pair first?[/QUOTE]Punter, it's too bad you can't just address my point of contention. It is true we don't always respond to each and every point the other makes. But you made a false claim about my actions, which might seem trivial to some, but the action was something I would find beneath me to do. I explained this, and challenged you to provide one example within a week. To suggest there was some threat in my challenge is absurd. Now when I call out your failure to back up your claim, do you [i]finally[/i] address it? Nope. You respond with a challenge of physical aggression.

There is absolutely no chance I would descend to your level. Such aggression is a pure admission of failure in my book. A failed argument, and a failure to prevent emotion overiding reason. Further, IMO you've crossed a line of decorum on discussion boards.

You're not worthy of my respect or my time any further. I'm putting you on "ignore".

[QUOTE=Mpexy;431613]Does that include his time being praised by democrats, advising Cinton since 1978, and helping Clinton win election in 92 and re-election in 96 with specific acknowledgement by both Clinton and Stephanopoulos it was his triangulation policy advise that helped Clinton secure re-election?[/QUOTE]No, just his time at Fox News. Thank you for prompting this clarification. I have no comment on Dick Morris' prior career, but if he demonstrated astute judgement in the past, you'd never know it from watching him on Fox News. It's also remarkable how strongly he turned against the party he used to work for. But the explanation is simple, and Doggboy nailed it to a "T".

[QUOTE=Peter Sideburn;431615]Unfortunately, he lacks the ability, unlike Dick Morris, to say,"I was wrong."[/QUOTE]Truly amazing how the Obama haters find ever-new ways to defend their kind, and put down Obama. Dick Morris more a man than Obama because he fessed up to his mistake? That's a good one! Don't ever say the Obama haters aren't creative.

Perhaps, Dick Morris had no choice, because it was just glaringly obvious that he made a huge mistake. Unlike the long list of dubious and debatable "mistakes" that Obama allegedly made per Peter's list. What's Morris going to do, say he was right? LOL.

I'm not sure you guys are familiar with Dick Morris' tenure at Fox News. Wrong in one occasion? No, it was much more than his 2012 Election mistake, although that was his crowning moment. Over the years he gladly played the role of Fox News attack dog, dishing up a steady stream of doubt, distrust and fear of Obama. To many people what he said was laughable, but no doubt he had some effect on the Fox News viewership. That was his job. He said Bill Clinton wanted Obama to lose in 2012, but couldn't say it because Hillary was a hostage. He predicted Obama would face a primary challenge because of the 2010 midterms. He attributed the market crash in 2008 to fear of Obama's agenda. The list goes on and on, not always far out, but often wrong, and almost always anti-Obama. He now joins the Fox News trash heap along with Sarah Palin, another former paid attack dog.

The Republicans don't give a Shit about us in the USA.

Where did the X-Pats say they will Help those that needed Help?

[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/today/New+York+NY+USNY0996? X=2&lswe=USA&lswa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&GO=GO&whatprefs=&why=10[/url]

Cartoons of your Life.

[QUOTE=Esten;431610]Hey man. We didn't get much reporting from you on your last trip, hope it was a good one.[/Quote]It was a dandy dude. Thought October was so good I just had to do a surprise January trip! I no longer post many Chica experiences as after 8 years coming to Argentina and over a year in country I have learned that posting chica jems on the board just ends up biting me in the ass. Sadly, if you post Chica reviews it appears that many times the "self professed local residents" just screw it up by polluting the girls with "gringo money". For example, I banged a now AP popular Chica prior to the stripper party and had an ok experience before the Chica tried to up charge me for more cash as she had spent more than an hour with me. She eventually thought better of it and let sleeping dogs lie. I told her no way, end of story. Later that night the same Chica extorted 1500 pesos from a well known monger because the taxi cab meter ran close to 3 hours. Although this type of clock watching Chica is not my style, and certainly not a repeat for me. It's all good for some. I routinely get 1200 to 1300 pesos for TLN and pay 500 to 600 pesos for a great experience separate from how long it lasts, usually 1 to 2 hours on the first meeting. This is just my experience so please just accept it as my experience and the anti-price police can just ignore my comments. I usually post a few gems but the board has really changed over the years and it just isn't worth it anymore as even through private referral I have had good chicas polluted by goofy mongers. Enough said on this topic. Go get them tiger! You will do fine of course!

[QUOTE=Esten;431610]I'm pretty sure I have some life experiences, they're just different than yours. Why don't you tell us about the evils of socialism north of the border. Is it their lower unemployment rate, their more stable financial system, their universal healthcare, their lower rate of gun homicides, or their broader acceptance of prostitution? LOL Don't be cryptic, tell us what you're referring to![/Quote]Let me summarize for you about socialism.

Everyone pays taxes that has a job. There are NO deductions. Even if you flip burgers at Burger King you pay taxes. In 1990 I graduated after a decade of university education and made 33k per year. I paid the equivalent of 17k in federal and state taxes. But hell, health care was free. LMAO! The hybrid health system you so covet will never work and will just drive up costs. In socialist countries you don't get deductions so everyone pays taxes and has some skin in the game. Sorry to burst your bubble. It's just the way it is. Ooops. Oh well. Now You understand why I find most of your political posts nonsense and lacking in real life experience. As far as Your Canadian stats goes, suggest you research Canada in the 90s after Mulrooney signed the North Americam free trade agreement. Led to a decade of crazy unemployment and really hard times for Canada while the US was rolling in good times! Oooooops. Sorry the facts don't fit your model. My bad! Finally, I could go on all day about socialist medicine of which I have had substantial experience. Here's just one example. In Canada, if you need a simple Disc resection (back operation) , the clinical protocol is 10 years of OxyContin and then you line up for the surgery! Really Toymann. You serious! Yes I am buddy. I have said over and over that liberals like yourself better be careful what you ask for, as you just might get it. I could go on forever with other examples. Just take my word for it! Imagine going to a US surgeon needing a simple operation and finding out you are 10 years away from the OR. LMAO. Hope we get a chance to discuss this in person. I have made several posts eluding to these issues over the years, just check back. It's all good dude! My dos centavos!

[QUOTE=Esten;431610]Question for you. Let's say someone posted that you did something. And you were pretty sure you never did it. So you asked the poster to back their claim up. And all you got back was silence - CRICKETS. The poster had a chance to prove their claim, or come clean, but did neither. Would you believe everything else that person posted? What would you think of that person's character?[/QUOTE]Sorry dude. Have really no idea what you are talking about? As far as delineating character evaluations based on posts from mongers on an Internet chat board? You are kidding Right? LMAO! Maybe you should discuss these issues with some of the toothless idiots that post on this board professing that they are both experts on Argentina mongering and character evaluation! It's just a fun Internet chat board at the end of the day anyhow! Have a killer trip Esten. I have no doubt you will Turca your way into the monger hall of fame. LOL. Let me know how it goes. Toymann

Action in Los Angeles. LAPD needs help in manhunt bigtime. But don't end up shooting old ladies or newspaper delivery boys.

I 'm due for arrival in LAX in a month. Try to take care of the problem, AP possee!

I hope some of you can get the rest of the News.

[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada/[/url]

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/[/url]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 431651]This is what Toymann Posted and Deleted.
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[Quote]This will be my last post following you WT69. I am more than aware of the location and political environment you come from buddy. It truely saddens me that you continue to humiliate yourself with this idiocy. All from a guy that not long ago wanted this thread shut down. I truely hope that I head off into my golden years not sounding like an idiot moron like yourself. Too be so completely disconnected from reality it truely a shame. Please stop your ultra crazy liberal San Francisco spamming of this board. As best as I know you haven't been to Argentina in years. Your posts just border on idiocy and I can no longer just write you off as a true believer. So sad, you head into your final years so (forgive my French) screwed up. In the past you have exalted yourself as such a world traveler, which you feel gives you an intelligence and worldly knowledge far beyond the norm. Nothing could be further from the truth. Stupid only knows stupid dude. In your quest to be the anti-ugly.

American sadly you have done exactly the opposite. So sad really! It appears that in spite of your self proclaimed visa stamped bursting passport you have learned nothing from your travels. You are sadly a pathetic example of bullshit in bullshit out experience. Your anger at your age betrays you WT69. Such a shame really. Good luck dude. Really suggest you stop making yourself a fool with all this San fransico idiocy. Say howdy to Nancy on Monday. Toymann.

The Cartoon was printed in the NEW YORK TIMES.

I guess that you can only get FOX TV in your Midwestern Television NETWORKS.

I am so sorry that you can not get the rest of the World News.

That makes all your Educational reports very Limited.[/QUOTE]

You asked for it, now you get it! You are a pitiful sad mess fella. Poor, angry union boy with little education and world experience bragging about the stamps in your passport like it is some substitute for intelligence and wordly experience. I specifically deleted my post after the fact as, after I reread it, I felt it was like kicking a retarded person. LOL. Hate to tell ya, I am not from the Midwest idiot! Reread my posts and you'll see I grew up in Canada and have lived all over the USA, now I am fortunate enough, and successfull enough to live anywhere I please. You represent everything most successfull immigrants to this country despise and laugh at buddy. Couldn't make it in America despite you were born here. Entitled, stupid, and just pain lazy. Some of us came here with nothing and worked our ass off and guess what, lived the Amercan Dream! Sorry you ended up a welfare case however it didn't need to be that way. If you just had applied yourself and worked hard you might be ME right now! Instead you just recite socialist liberal banter howling at the moon, advertising on a monger website that you are a loser. Sorry for the blunt commentary, but as they say, you asked for it now you get it. Sucks to be you buddy, but after your last post you truely deserve this dressing down. Stupid, ignorant and entitled is sadly no way for a man your age to behave. Toymann out.

[QUOTE=Toymann;431654]You asked for it, now you get it! You are a pitiful sad mess fella. Poor, angry union boy with little education and world experience bragging about the stamps in your passport like it is some substitute for intelligence and wordly experience. I specifically deleted my post after the fact as, after I reread it, I felt it was like kicking a retarded person. LOL. Hate to tell ya, I am not from the Midwest idiot! Reread my posts and you'll see I grew up in Canada and have lived all over the USA, now I am fortunate enough, and successfull enough to live anywhere I please. You represent everything most successfull immigrants to this country despise and laugh at buddy. Couldn't make it in America despite you were born here. Entitled, stupid, and just pain lazy. Some of us came here with nothing and worked our ass off and guess what, lived the Amercan Dream! Sorry you ended up a welfare case however it didn't need to be that way. If you just had applied yourself and worked hard you might be ME right now! Instead you just recite socialist liberal banter howling at the moon, advertising on a monger website that you are a loser. Sorry for the blunt commentary, but as they say, you asked for it now you get it. Sucks to be you buddy, but after your last post you truely deserve this dressing down. Stupid, ignorant and entitled is sadly no way for a man your age to behave. Toymann out.[/QUOTE]Wasn't Toymann banned from "howling at the moon" in the American Politics thread after he was proven to be a blabbering idiot based on his never-ending railing about how Obama was going to get slaughtered in the November 2012 election? How ironic and hypocritical that Toymann rips into WT69 for allegedly being "socialist' and on "welfare" when everybody knows that Toymann made his money by leeching off Medicare / Medicaid in plying his wares almost exclusively to welfare and Medicare / Medicaid dependent minorities.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;431655]How ironic and hypocritical that Toymann rips into WT69 for allegedly being "socialist' and on "welfare" when everybody knows that Toymann made his money by leeching off Medicare / Medicaid in plying his wares almost exclusively to welfare and Medicare / Medicaid dependent minorities.[/QUOTE]And I thought WT69 was way out there! LMAO! You are funny coming up with that one. Don't forget the minority single mothers that work illegally for sweat shop wages in my front offices. With unemployment so high I have lowered my minimum salary for my non-union illegal aliens to 3 bucks an hour and moved all my fulltime employees to job share part timers to avoid providing any benefits to my employees what so ever. ThAnks to Obama and his policies this may be the best year for plumping my bottom line ever! I have to admit that another four years might not be such a bad thing? Who knew that after I paid my fair share I would do so well, at my employees' expense. My bad. Go Obama Go. High five to you too SnakeBoy. I have an opening for a night-time janitor if you are interested? I know you are most likely under-qualified for this position but I am feeling benelovant this morning.

Happy Mongering All. Toymann.

Ps. If you read my last post you will see that my reaction to WT69 was based on WT69 reposting a post I intentionally deleted. It was only up on the board a very short time before I decided to delete it. Maybe I am wrong but in all my years on the board I don't think that has ever happened. Another first for looney WT69. LMAO

[QUOTE=Esten;431638]Perhaps, Dick Morris had no choice, because it was just glaringly obvious that he made a huge mistake.[/QUOTE]I agree with your opinion of Dick Morris. The guy belongs in the Mongers Hall of Infamy. He way overpaid for an ugly hooker. And the idiot let her know where he worked, even letting her listen in on conversations with his boss (President Clinton).

Seriously, he may have been guilty of exaggeration, but no more so than some of the loonies on MSNBC that still have their jobs. In the bedroom he's apparently one strange dude. The prostitute he was seeing said he liked dancing in his underwear while singing the theme song from Popeye the Sailor Man. And he enjoyed being dominated and had a foot fetish. Apologies in advance to any AP/ISG brethren that are into similar perversions.

I'm Popeye the sailor man
I'm Popeye the sailor man
I'm strong to the fin-ich
Cause I eats me spin-ach
I'm Popeye the sailor man.

[QUOTE=Esten;431636]Punter, it's too bad you can't just address my point of contention. It is true we don't always respond to each and every point the other makes. But you made a false claim about my actions, which might seem trivial to some, but the action was something I would find beneath me to do. I explained this, and challenged you to provide one example within a week. To suggest there was some threat in my challenge is absurd. Now when I call out your failure to back up your claim, do you [i]finally[/i] address it? Nope. You respond with a challenge of physical aggression.[/quote]In most places if you call someone out with threatening demands you had better be able to back it up. However when did talking face to face become 'physical aggression'? Although if estens demeanor is the same in real life as it is on this board I suspect he's had many challenges of physical aggression.

[QUOTE=Esten; 431636]There is absolutely no chance I would descend to your level. Such aggression is a pure admission of failure in my book. A failed argument, and a failure to prevent emotion overiding reason. Further, IMO you've crossed a line of decorum on discussion boards.

You're not worthy of my respect or my time any further. I'm putting you on "ignore".[/QUOTE]Someone tell Esteena to relax, come out from under the bed and change his soiled panties, I have no desire to harm him. I don't beat around the bush, if I wanted to harm him I would show up on his door step or track him down in BA, he's pretty well known so I don't think it would be very had to find him. He also might want to consider testosterone supplements to help with testicle development. LOL.

I suspect being unworthy of his highness' respect and being on his 'ignore list' will prove to be more advantageous to me than him, all it really does is keep him from seeing my post, does anyone really think he's not going to read my post? He just won't be able to respond without exposing himself as a liar.

Had he ask in a respectful manner instead of entering into a demanding diatribe against me which threatened repercussion if I failed to comply within a specified time period I would have explained myself. But I refuse to succumb to such demands and threats.

IMHO the 'decorum' of this forum is Jacksons call not Estens, and if Esten doesn't like the way Jackson runs things he doesn't have to post here.

What Essen originally accused me of in the world of academia and journalism (we are in neither) would be Plagiarism which is defined as [i]'an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author. '[/i] But is it still Plagiarism if the same words are applied to a different topic? A gray area at best.

There was a time when Esten would post quotes from the news as if they were his own words in order to lure people in so he could make fun of them, he hopes we have forgotten, but I and perhaps others haven't forgotten. When I suggested to Esten that he should use quotation marks he replied with something along the lines of; it's more fun this way. Esten has more than eleven hundred post and the quotes I'm talking about are to far back to find without Jacksons help, a search only brings up his last 199 post, Gee do you think Esten knew that when he made his demands? I assure you they're there. So much for Plagiarism being 'beneath' him.

Had Esten approached this issue in a respectful manner I would have reminded him of his own past Plagiarism and explained that in my statement which he professes to be so upset about I was actually referring to his side or group (the left), not him as a individual when I used the word 'you'. But I don't respond to demands and I'm only offering this explanation now to the other members because now I'm on Estens ignore list and he can't see it. (or can he?)

Character assassination is a ploy often used by the uber-left, George Bush, Talk radio, Fox News, the NRA, to name a few, and now you can add Punter 127, I'm flattered.

If Esten would like to do the honorable thing and apologize for his failed character assassination ploy, I will graciously accept his apology.

'Second Amendment: Alleged killer Christopher Dorner has provided the country with a vital lesson as the gun-control debate rages: The government's officially sanctioned gun owners can slaughter innocents too.

The fired Los Angeles Police officer and ex-USA Navy reservist terrorizing Southern California, allegedly killing three and wounding three, is no Adam Lanza of the unspeakable Newtown infamy, no Jared Lee Loughner, who allegedly murdered a judge and maimed a congresswoman in Arizona, no James Eagan Holmes, whom officials say murdered 12 and injured another 58 moviegoers in Colorado.

In the gun-control fanatics' fantasy world, Dorner is one of the Good Guys: the controlled, heavily trained few within federal, state and local governments who are entitled to own and handle high-performance firearms as Americans' protectors.

To the predictable response from the left that the government fired Dorner — in the form of the Los Angeles Police Department sacking him for issuing false statements — it should be pointed out that someone capable of Dorner's apparent crimes could well have done so while still wearing a law enforcement or military uniform, and for rationales other than those he chose.

Armed police officers turning into serial killers might be rare, but the Dorner nightmare is further proof that the problem is not guns, but criminality; not the tools of crime but its perpetrators. '

[url]http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/020813-643818-gun-control-only-disarms-targets-of-california-gunman-christopher-dorner.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Black Shirt; 431650]Action in Los Angeles. LAPD needs help in manhunt bigtime. But don't end up shooting old ladies or newspaper delivery boys.

I 'm due for arrival in LAX in a month. Try to take care of the problem, AP possee![/QUOTE]Have a nice trip and if you have trouble just call 911. No need to protect yourself 'When Seconds Count, Cops Are Minutes Away. '

[B]The Thirteenth Amendment.[/B] The abolition of Slavery.

Mississippi signed it on March 16, [B]1995[/B] after having rejected it on December 5, 1865.

Mississippi's 1995 ratification was not formally filed with the Archivist of the United States for unknown reasons. The ratification was forwarded to the Office of the Federal Register on January 30, 2013, and on February 7, 2013, the director of the Register certified that he had received the ratification and that it was official.

Those Bad Bad White Republicans.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;431832][B]The Thirteenth Amendment.[/B] The abolition of Slavery.

Mississippi signed it on March 16, [B]1995[/B] after having rejected it on December 5, 1865.

Mississippi's 1995 ratification was not formally filed with the Archivist of the United States for unknown reasons. The ratification was forwarded to the Office of the Federal Register on January 30, 2013, and on February 7, 2013, the director of the Register certified that he had received the ratification and that it was official.

Those Bad Bad White Republicans.[/QUOTE]What the fuck does this have to do with anything?