JB just got your e mail yeh can probably meet up to say Hi I am damn tired I Will bring my Peruvian friend too. I think Sunday is a Dead Night. I will then focus on the internet today like CRAZY And SLEEEEEEEEPPPP,,, Bye NIBU R....
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JB just got your e mail yeh can probably meet up to say Hi I am damn tired I Will bring my Peruvian friend too. I think Sunday is a Dead Night. I will then focus on the internet today like CRAZY And SLEEEEEEEEPPPP,,, Bye NIBU R....
Kick Stand in BA...
Final Continuation
Saturday (Dec 1st)….
After the miserable double that I had from Playwoman the night before, I figure that I’d better stick with my precompiled list of first visit cuties. Saint calls around 11am to see if I was interested in having lunch at a place his amiga suggested. I’m hungry. We meet downstairs at noon and catch a taxi. This turns out to be one of the costlier taxi rides I’ve ever had in BA.
For detail on this, you should check his trip report. Needless to say, another adventure with Saint. We get to this place and it’s pretty nice. I forget where it’s located but it’s called Toronto and it’s a buffet style place that has sushi, Chinese food, salad bar, etc.. We left with like a 35 peso bill for the both of us.
Before we left, I decided to make an appointment for some entertainment. Saint offers to make the call for me.
“El malvado toque de la Muerte!!!”
The girl I want to see is Bahiana/Deborah from Platynum. Saint explains that he’s calling for a friend and negotiates 250 pesos for 2 hours for 6pm. While they are on the phone, the girl even says that she should charge me 50 pesos more because I don’t speak Spanish. I should’ve known then and there that this wasn’t going to happen. But I’m such a sucker for a nice ass that I pay it no mind.
Saint makes his own arrangements and we make our way back to the hotel. 6pm rolls around. Nothing. 6:15pm, nothing. I always give the girl a half hour leeway before I write her off but I for some reason or another (I think it was the ass), I decide to call her and see what the situation was.
She says that the appointment was for 7pm, not 6pm. Bullshit. I was sitting directly across from Saint when he made the appointment. Lie #1. Something tells me to confirm the agreed upon price. She says 300 pesos. Lie #2. I say forget it. Adios. There was no mistake on our part. I can understand Spanish better than people realize. I know times and monetary amounts, so I KNOW what I heard when Saint was on the phone. What I’m hearing now is somebody trying to pull a fast one.
I make arrangements with Sabrina from Gemidos. 5 minutes after we confirm time and location, someone named Ximena calls my room. I have no idea who this is. My Spanish isn’t good enough to understand the explanation. I ask if this is Sabrina. She says “no” but offers to come over at 7pm, which is when I agreed for Sabrina to come over. I’m thinking bait&switch. I tell her no. Needless to say, Sabrina doesn’t show.
Oh well. By this time, I’m just ready to hit the clubs later. I hook up with UWPhoto and we decide to meet Saint at Black’s if we don’t see anything we like.
UWPhoto and I hit a few clubs and end up at Hook around 1am. He picks a girl he’s seen before and I select a petite blonde based on a performance suggestion from UWPhoto. I make sure she understands the amount of “trouble” that might be in her later and she doesn’t seem to have a problem. I noticed that she’s not as cute as I thought and has on entirely too much make-up once we got outside.
We go back to my room and we get started. This little girl is DEFINITELY a performer. I’ve been ridden well before but for some reason it looked so much better when she did it. Bbbj, kissing, and very enthusiastic screwing. I forgot her name though. I made her work for the “deposit”. We worked for about an hour and a half before I popped. When she saw it was only a little, she looked at me kind of disappointed like “All that for THIS?” HA!!! Shee-it, she was lucky to get that. That pathetic double from Playwoman didn’t even get half that.
So, Sunday comes and Saint calls me with a proposition around 11am. Apparently, the pathetic duo from Playwoman (Paola and Andrea) had been talking about me to the girls that work there. I think they were speaking of crotch monster. Apparently, a friend of Saint’s amiga got wind of it and wanted to meet me. She suggested getting together for lunch.
“El malvado toque de la Muerte!!!”
I was hungry, so why the fuck not? Couldn’t care less. We meet up at the girl’s place and her friend turns out to SMOKING HOT! A nicely put together brazilian mulatta named Lucila. I believe she worked at Black’s. Hmmm….possibilities.
We hop a cab and head down to Bice in Puerto Madero. We have lunch which was very nice. I didn’t speak much because Lucila doesn’t speak English. I still manage to carry a small conversation with her. Saint’s amiga is very pleasant girl. Very funny.
Saint negotiates 300 pesos for 2 hours. I say cool and we head back. Along the way, I let her wear my sunglasses because it was bright out and she had left hers.
We get back to my room, watch a little TV for 5 minutes and she showers. She comes in with a towel around her waist but with her top still on. I’m laying on the bed and climbs on top of me and we start kissing. At this point, the Beast awakes. All of a sudden, I see her eyes widen and she rolls off of me. I ask her if there is a problem, she says yes. We’re laughing at this point. She then asks for her money. I figure it should be cool. I know…STUPID!
So I give her 300 pesos. She then asks for more. EXCUSE me? She holds up ten fingers. At first, I’m surprised. Then, I’m cool. I say “Adios.” She says okay and starts to put MY money in her pants! I say “Hold the FUCK up! You are NOT leaving here with my money.” She refuses to give it back. Apparently, she’s never dealt with a brotha from the Southeastern United States.
Needless to say, it’s ON!
Now I have a sister who likes to fight and I study martial arts, so I know I can get my money back without hurting her. Well, she turns out to be stronger than I thought.
It took me a good 5 minutes to wrestle my money out of her hand. I mean, she even tried to BITE ME! Luckily, I’m an old pro at wrestling girls. So, I sit on her chest and pin her right arm with my knee. Then I put a pillow over her face to keep her from biting my leg and used both hands to PRY out my money.
SOMEBODY told her wrong.
Once I got the money, I told her to get out. She walked over to my night stand where here shoes were. On the night stand was my “List O Plenty”. Ladies names and numbers. She started reading it. I took it from her said “Gracias” and started dialing one of the numbers right in front of her.
She headed towards the kitchen and I saw her near the mini-bar. Fearing foul play, I got up and walked into the kitchen to watch her. She was eye-ing one of the little liquor bottles. When she saw me, she put it down and grabbed a bag of M&M’s. And started to leave. I saw my sunglasses hanging from her top.
Oh, HELL no!
I calmly took them from her and ushered her out the door.
“El malvado toque de la Muerte!!!”
Now, I wasn’t upset. I had a little repeat action coming by later. And she’s bringing a friend!!!!!
As soon as the ***** left, I called up my girl from Friday afternoon. She and her friend could be over by 7:30pm. Copacetic.
Saint calls and can’t believe what happened. Being the nice guy he is, he felt so bad. His amiga did, too. I tried to explain that it was no big deal. Hell, the only reason I went to lunch was to get some food. I knew that my girl from Gemidos was coming by later so I really didn’t lose anything but a pack of M&M’s.
It’s Saint’s last day here. He calls about 7:20 and tells me he’ll swing by before he leaves. I explain that I have company coming but he should come by anyway. I wait before we get started.
The ladies show up 5 minutes later. Right on time. The friend is a 22-year old brunette with blue contacts. Small boobs but nice tight body. And the smoothest skin I’ve touched in a long time. They come in and I offer them drinks. Both take fruit juice. I explain that my buddy was coming by to say goodbye in a few minutes. They looked at each other and then at me.
That’s when they ATTACKED!!!!
The brunette grabs my left hand and heads towards the couch. The blonde grabs my right and heads toward the bed in the opposite direction. Basically, I was the Chocolate rope in a tug of war. I thought “THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!!!”
And I was right.
I ‘ve had a few doubles. Some good, some bad. This had to be the PRIMA DOUBLE!!!
This had to be the first time I’ve ever been Tag teamed. While one would ride me, the other would be kissing me, then they’d switch while kissing deeply. Even when I THOUGHT I took control by going missionary on one, the other would let me pound away for a little, then lay next to us and TRY to pull me over on top of her. Yes, I said “TRY”. That’s because the other one would lock me with her arms and legs and not let me go. They “fought” playfully like this the entire 2.5 hours.
I think I actually started crying.
It was BEAUTIFUL!!! I believe the entire week had built up to this. AND it was WORTH IT!!! I’m sure that I was kissing one of them from start until I closed the door behind them. Wonderful.
I didn’t hear Saint knock on my door so I figured I’d talk to him when I got stateside. Sorry, dude. I was trapped. Heh heh.
The girls REALLY put it on me so I had to sleep before UWPhoto and I went out later. We met up and had dinner at a very good Arabic restaurant. We then started hitting clubs. Started out at Playwoman to just have some drinks and waste time. I wasn’t going to pick up anyone from there. Boycott is still in effect.
We hit several more and wound up downtown in Cattos(?).
NOTE: Now, I had been avoiding Cattos because everytime I go there, INCLUDING my very first visit, I’m ATTACKED by this little Dominican girl with 2 seconds of entering the door. Smoking little body and a great lay but I’m looking to chart NEW territory. With her hanging on me, I never get a chance to scout. I did send her away the last visit but I didn’t see anything interesting.
On this visit, I step in the door and THREE seconds pass. She’s not here. HA!!! I was right. So UWPhoto and I take a seat and start scoping. We are approached by two ladies. Not what were looking for. They speak English and we chat with them for a bit before sending them on their way.
I notice two girls that look Dominican. One in white pants, the other in a very short white skirt. They are dancing together. Hmmm…possible. UWPhoto and I continue watching and chilling when the Faux Dominican in white pants and a different, much LARGER Dominican female approach our table. I hoping that the split goes my way. White pants…white pants…white pants…..
JACKPOT! I feel bad for UWPhoto. Only for a minute.
I look at my new companion. She is very attractive. Dark skin. Nice teeth. But Argentine, not Dominican. I am again pleasantly surprised by the diversity of ladies in the Argentine culture. I’m a little worried about the pants, though. I wonder if she’s hiding something. We talk a little. UWPhoto tells me he’s heading to Hook because he’s tired of getting tackled. Don’t blame him. He’d been hit twice by two heavy hitters. I decide to stay with this cutie. I wasn’t worried about him though because he almost always gets something from Hook.
We talk a little more and agree to go back to my hotel. As always, I warn her that I’m packing heat. She’s cool with it so we leave. I want to hurry up and get this lady outside so that I can see what she really looks like.
Oh, yeah. She’s a hottie.
We stop in Hook and tell UWPhoto that we’re headed back. He seems more comfortable here so we leave him to the hunt.
We get back to my room and I want to see her body without the pants. And it is VERY nice. Her boobs are larger than they appear. Her body is nice and firm. And she’s very affectionate. She seems to like me. I seem to like her. We seem to screw for hours. I finish with me hitting her from behind. This girl is awesome.
I couldn’t really tell if she had an orgasm or not so I decide to give her one to make sure. She enjoyed it VERY much.
We sit up and watch TV. The 2 hours had already passed. She lay her head on my chest and I stroked her hair, face and body. I asked her if she wanted to stay the night and she did. She told me that she was supposed to be out dancing with her friends but she was staying here with me instead. Nice way to finish.
EXCEPT…..
I couldn’t keep my eyes open. It was almost 5am. At one point, I had fallen asleep briefly and I awoke to see her looking at me smiling. I apologized. She understood and got dressed to leave. I forget that they (the ladies) are used to staying up this late. Hell, I bet they never been on the business end of the PRIMA DOUBLE before. That thing will wipe you OUT!
She gave me her contact info which was already written down on a piece of paper. Curious.
We kissed and she left. I then passed out, a VERY Happy Man.
EVIL DEATH TOUCH NOTICE: Once Saint left town, I start getting play like this. Coincidence?
This was my last night in BA. I’ll be back. Oh, yes. I’ll be back. I’m not sure when. I guess it depends on when Saint and/or UWPhoto are going. I’d have to go with those two. Anytime I travel with them, I have a great time. Wouldn’t be the same without them.
But NEXT time…I’m bringing some holy water to ward off Saint’s evil touch. Heh heh.
Kick Stand
OMG! I nearly pissed my pants laughing so hard. I guess you guys had to actually be there to experience the stuff that Kick Stand and UWPhoto experience (along with all the other guys that go to BA frequently). This was one of the funniest posts I've read on WSG. You definitely have the gift Kick Stand.
We definitely had a good time. I still can't believe what an ordeal K.S. went through with that b*tch from Black's that was a friend of my amiga. My amiga still can't believe it but I told her that I know Kick Stand and I know the dude is as honest as the girls are hot in BA. Ha, ha.
I'm not sure if I had "an evil death touch" with Kick Stand or not but the dude still had fun. Don't let him fool you. The day I left I did go to his room. I knocked like 5 times loudly. All I could hear was, "Oi, Oi, si, si, asi, asi!!!!". (Ahhhh, ahhhh, yesss, yess, like that, like that!!!). I just thought to myself 'thataboy'!!
I definitely am looking forward to more adventures with my amigos. In less than 3 weeks I'll be in Rio with Kick Stand and UWPhoto. We're having a New Year's Eve party with a great crew of quality guys. We rented out a room at this place so it should be interesting.
We're all a bad influence on eachother. I talk to UWPhoto and Kick Stand almost everyday on Instant Messenger. I never travel for work but Kick Stand does and so does UWPhoto. Most weekends one of us is trying to talk the other into taking a weekend trip. One weekend a few weeks ago Kick Stand was trying to talk me into going to Montreal, UW was trying to talk me into going to Rio with him and I ended up going to Mexico City!!! Ha, ha.
Life is good.
P.S. I have my apartment now. Like I said, I'm gonna rent it out to quality guys that I've either already met (and liked), or guys that met one of the guys I met. Email me if you wanna see pictures. [email]Saintofba@aol.com[/email]
Hi Apologgy to Jackson and Jb I tried to meet you tonight But I just lost my friend tonight Man he walks like a woman I am at this Internet Place now at Florida st. next to Mcdonalds. Damn Sorry Jackson,JB my friend walks like A Woman. I think I only know one friend that walks as fast as me My Buddy Daniel from Lima who lives in Isreal now. I am no muscle dude but I can walk any city in the world all day 90,100,200 blocks No Problem. Ok Jackson,JB Call me then tommorow At The Hotel Constitucion Plaza Hey 12 Pesos for 2 Cheap as Fuck. I prefer my money more for Women,Great Cds,Great booze and Maybe Money for some Sex Mags in some of thse BA Sex shops But I am scared to get Sex magazines for Peru I do not want problem with Peruvian or Chilean customs. Hey Maybe I might just buy my future wife some sexy lingerie. Shit in fact her on Ave. Florida is a Sex shop like a block away from the Mcdonalds but closed. I also my last time around in BA In April found a Video Place that has Old Classic 80,s porn with Classic stars like KAY PARKER,Coleen Brenan,Samantha Strong,Helga Sven,Little Oral Annie,Seka,VDR,Aniierr Sprinkle,Patty Plenty and other stars Hey Plus You could get some Extreme Porn her that the Us Does not have but I prfer to just preview it here and watch it Ha Ha That is Good enough for me. I will attemt that ABC Theather again I hope that Swingers will be there tonight they always advertise as a Swingers Place PLEASE Let it be Tonight NO FAGS Ahhhhhhhh..... I am horny So Maybe Maybe tonight is the Night Jackson Buddy E Mail me at wipy1999@yahoo.com and ctw30@hotmail.com I am on messenger service too. Call me Before 10 Am Tommorrow that Is When I have to pay my bill again. Yeh In Uruguay and Argentina 10 am is the time limit for a new day in Peru And Bolivia it is usually 12 Pm Or 1 PM,,,,,, Later Ya all,,,, NIBU R.....
Stopped in the ABC thetere tonight on Esmerldas too many fags and only two boring coples no sleazy solo women but a ***** A Half block away offered to do me in the ABC Ah She was too Ugly. At the Orleans cafe dead. Around the corner from Orleans I met Beetina Big Silicone Tities Looks like A Typical 90,s Us Porno Star. Beetina asked for 70 pesos and 10 dollars for the hotel And two frre drinks come with it. She works on the streets of Maipu late at night and also By Santa Fe and Mtae Aliea Shit I can not read What She Wrote. I will have to llok at my www.lonelyplanet.com Argentina Book for the map of centro. I am now on Lavalle st under me is a sleazy 24 porn theatere and above me a Sex Shop that is open in the day. Oh I think the street she mentioned is Mt. Alver She really is not that hot but her Silicone Porno Beach Blonde California look turns me on. Ah Some Chick tryed giving me a card to 563 Tucuman I refused and told her that place is a rip off. Another 24 hour porn place on Corrientes wondering if swingers go there. I was wondering too if any Swingers or hookers go to this Porn Place Apolo Rodriguez Pena 41 Also Box sounds like a Total Gay Place Ah Shit I Hope not Box is at Laprida 1423. OH Since I am posting now is the sex scene still pretty lame up in Flores on the 7300 block of Rivadavia? I know last night in The Constitucion Red Light Zone area it was pretty horrible I also did not see this Whiskeria that I saw before on Ave. Brazil or the whores of San Juan,,,Regards:::: NIBU R.......
Nibu,
Are you capable of writing a coherent sentence with at least halfway decent grammar and punctuation? Attempting to read one of your posts is like trying to decipher a dyslexic 6 year old. It's not worth the trouble.
Hey Kick Stand,
I am the new guy on the block, and sure do enjoy your posts. along with Saint. You guys seem to be having a ball. I will be in BA in Feb 2-11, for the first time, anyway you can introduce me to a phone number on the "TAG TEAM". Hope to meet up with some mongers and especially "Sir Jackson".Thanks
MR LA
I HAVE BEEN TELLING NIBU FOR YEARS HE IS AN IDIOT.
NIBU,
GO BACK TO CHILE AND PERU :::::::::::::PLEASE
STARFE
sorry gentlemen for the post...
hey barickster,
email to you bounced, if you're still heading to b.a. mid-dec drop me an email, or post here.
Hey guys,
First 24 hours in BA. Am staying at Apart Hotel Recoleta in Calle Guido. Great location indeed. Right next to Cementary Recoleta and incredibly close from Madaho, Black, etc.
USD 45 breakfast and tax included. Plain but fine.
Right opposite an all you eat (food that is) buffet for 9 peso. Food is very good and incredibly varied. They serve just about everything.
As soon as I find out how chica friendy it is I will inform.
Went to the pharmacy corner of Florida and Paraguay. Yup, they do sell Viagra at Peso 77 for 4 100mg without any hassle. Has Argentine equivalent, Bifort 50. Much cheaper. Guy says it is not as good. I think I will have to test it. Will report.
Spent an hour with Alessandra from Platynum. Check www.nazarenabazan.com.ar. Body of death. Pricey from what I read in forum. Peso 400. Was worth it. More to follow.
Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much a girl from
the Platynum's escort website would cost? Are they the quality of girl one could expect when taking a trip down to BA? Or, are these girls considered the "cream of the crop" and going cost you your left nutt!
Thanks,
Judd
Since I never fit in with the good old boys, I might as well say that I think Nibu is a riot....keep um coming dude and keep me posted on the swinger places.
FB
I agree with Fat Bastard, Nibu is entertaining! While reading his posts, I try to imagine what this maniac is like.
Nibu, tell us about yourself. Where are you from, are you just wandering South America, do you ever just relax and take it slow?
If I ever have a chance to meet you, I'll try to keep up, but I'm not sure that's possible.
Nibu, are you for real? You're in one of the escort capitals of the WORLD and all you can think about is picking up some trashy street hooker or travesti as long as they have HUGE, artificial cannons implanted in their chest! You're a disgrace to the Buenos Aires Mongers Association! Please do us all a favor and stick to asking 5 questions back in the Bolivia section every time you post as you're so adept at doing. And while you're at it, why don't you learn what a paragraph is.
A paragraph is the start of a new thought, and you signify that you're starting a new thought by hitting the enter key so that there's a single line space between the old thought and the new one. Doing this makes reading your drivel a little easier and as long as we have to read your drivel, why don't you make it just a little easier for us!?! DownBA
Kyck_stand,
That was one funny post. If one were a casual reader of the Argentinian section of the forum, one might feel some sympathy for your undue misfortunes; but having seen you in action, I dare say that you do quite well for yourself. Keep the posts, they are fast approaching the status of Uncle Otto's report.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by b69
[i]Hey guys,
Spent an hour with Alessandra from Platynum. Check www.nazarenabazan.com.ar. Body of death. Pricey from what I read in forum. Peso 400. Was worth it. More to follow. [/i][/QUOTE]
Are those cannonballs on her chest real or artificial?
:)
b69,
Hope you are enjoying your time in BA. When I first went to BA back in July I thought about calling Alessandra up but from what I could see of her face (partially hidden) she looked older so I did not call her. From the web site you referenced I can now clearly see that she is even older than I thought. Glad I followed my gut feeling. 400 pesos in BA for someone of her age is way too much. If I was to call her (not likely) I would not pay more than 100 pesos. If she was good I would tip her some more.
Hey Lotsafun and Toosh,
Those cannonballs have been through the surgeon I am afraid. You could see that depending the postures.
Her age? Unsure. Around 30. You can trust me that she looks better in real life. Tanned and very fit/firm. She works in a gym. Has Indian, Turkish and Italian origins. Blue eyes on a naturally tanned body.
It was not GFE. However, just looking at her and touching her was orgasmic. Her body is a playground..., there is a lot to play with. I just love big tits, be they real or "enhanced".
Today, called Alexia from Platynum. When I got to her place, her friend opens and says she had to leave!!! Wonderful !!!
Her friend is Dana from Platynum. They share a flat which they only use to receive customers during the day.
Is that on their own or do they have a "manager"? No clue. Anyways, as Dana was very friendly and sweet, I stayed. And not bad herself. 22 with a kid. Had good sex for approx 2 hours. 80 Peso an hour which are the going rates. She only wanted to charge for an hour, but I gave her another 80 Peso.
I have seen that a lot of pics from Platynum have brick walls in the background. Maybe there is more to it. This could all be "organized".
Fellow mongers, any thoughts or experiences with that?
More to follow.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by b69
I have seen that a lot of pics from Platynum have brick walls in the background. Maybe there is more to it. This could all be "organized".
Fellow mongers, any thoughts or experiences with that?
[i][/QUOTE]
My guess is that it's Platynum.com's offices.
And 80 pesos an hour ain't bad.
FB
Re the brick wall in the Platynum.com pics: yes, this is a brick wall inside the offices of Platynum.com, I've seen it once in person after I finished having lunch with Adriana, the webmistress of Platynum.com, who by the way is a lovely, wonderful person. DownBA
Hey b69. Glad you're having fun. There is something for everyone in BA. In response to your post. I'm sure that many of the girls on Platynum have managers but that brick wall has nothing to do with it. I believe that brick wall is the office where these girls go to sign up for being on Platynum.com. I met the webmistriss my first trip and she was very nice.
My friend and I were sitting in her office and I saw some lady taking pictures of some new girls. It was funny because we were sitting there when the lady came in and asked if we minded this naked girl coming in for photos. Duh, of course not. I think that was the very same brick wall.
As far as the girls that have flats. I'd venture to guess most of them work for someone else. This past trip was the first time I went to someone else's apartment. I like the comfort of being in my own room. Well, I get to this building of one of the girls from Area-Vip.com.ar. I get to her apartment then she takes me up to yet another apartment. I ask her about all this and she explains the one apartment is a "staging area" where the girls wait for clients. Then they take their 'dates' to another apartment. She explained a lady was their manager. She had to pay half her money for the priviledge of her getting to use the apartments.
I explained I thought it was a raw deal but she didn't seem to bothered by it. I bet that many of the girls operate with managers like this.
The building was at Florida street amongst all the shops. The building was decent. The guy at the front desk was nice enough but I had to show them my driver's license or ID so I'm glad I had it with me. I'm not sure I could have gone up without it. I gave him a $1 US on my way out and he was happy.
Yet another adventure in the Saint chronicles.....
Hi To Jackson.JB and the other two guys glad to meet you guys the other night It was fun meeting you guys. I am still here until Sunday afterrnon at the Constitucion Plaza Hotel in San Telmo. San Telmo is really not that dangerous at all Nearby La Boca is. Ok Thanks Again To Jackson,James Bond and the other two guys. To Starfe you are jealous that I am In Lovely BA. I am not an Idiot but very intelligent. To Down Ba I think No I do not like TVS and also See The Bolivia posts I put in so much info in to Bolivia From cities like La Paz,Sucre,Cochabamba,Santa Cruz,Uyuni,Potosi,Villazon and other Bolivian cities. I was in Bolivia twice this year so I know What is Up. Havanaman I got your E Mails I just E Mailed you now from my Hotmail account. Yeh Like I told everyone Sunday afternoon I am out of here off to Santiago Chile directly. Havanaman What time will you arrive friday? Maybe you can come with Me To the Sex Club friday My Buddy JM Will hit the Rock Metal Clubs while I plan on Friday and saturday hitting the sex clubs,Cafes like Orleans,looking at streetwalkers and more MAn Tonight I checked out an Erotic Bar Restaraunt place on Corrientes which will have its inaguracion tommorrow. I will try to check it out tommorow I think it was on the 1600 Block of Corrientes Back with part 2 of my report soon I Got to take care of some other E Mail Affairs,,,, NIBU R.....
Hi Back for part two of my report checked out like 3 different massage places on Corrientes. The first one I checked out had a hot girl Named Sasha wow like 36 DD Or 38 Huge BB Tits they were hanging out of her black skimpy bikini. She is nown also as Anastasia under www.platynum.com.ar I do not think her photos are yet in. She just started working for Platynum which is connected to the massage place here going price was a 100 pesos for 1 hour but I would prefer too try her for 30 minutes and pay 50 pesos. Jackson and Jb your nuts would burst looking at this hot babe this Mama was Built. Lesbian shows too Man it seems like Lesbian shows go with the whole sex buisness in BA Just like a girl being a porno star must always lezbo.... out once every so often. This was on Corrientes 1250 5C...... phone 4381-1701 The two other girls were ugly the girl working the money was a complete disrespectful ***** giving me a hard time. Well Ok If you want to see her dyke out with one of the other ugly bitches it will cost you 200 pesos for an hour the love rooms were very exotic and big looking. Yeh they will use Ben Wa Balls and strap ons on each other and other Sex Toys. Man these Argentenian girls are Slutty I got to get to Bed soon it is after 4 am here I checked out some streetwhore action tonight too and two other massage places on Corrientes I will try to post more of this info tommorow if I have time. The ads for The corrientes massage parlors are in the Daily La Cronica paper,Regards,,NIBU.
Hey Guys,
One quick question? I am going to BA for the first time in Feb. I have been sending e-mails to the girls from "Platyum". I have been asking about rates, and all I get is $100us per hour and $300us all night. I hear you guys talk about 100-150 pesos per hour and 300 pesos all night. Is this for Internet girls, or just bar girls. I have e-mail "Almendra" from platyum and she is firm on $100us per hour. Little insite would help. I can't wait to get there. To much fun. Thanks for the help.
MR LA
Nibu!
You are truly out of hand! In a good way. I am not against your posts. On the contrary--they thoroughly entertain me to the high heavens.
As D-Boy said--i too try to envison what in the bloody hell Nibu is doing down there in South America?!
In my mind's eye I have built him up into some kind of mythic hero that represents the male sex drive, the quest for gratification....Nibu is a satyr--a kind of one man "rampage" in search of sex for sale.....
His posts have an urgency to them that seems to suggest that he has given up everything, thrown it all aside so as to follow his lecherous desires to the full.
Perhaps my imagination is running wild--but I almost want to say that when he make his posts--he is doing so under grave duress. That perhaps, someone is chasing him through South America. Perhaps he is an embezzler.
Yes, that's it!!!
I postulate that Nibu is on the run--that he is being pursued! He bounces from one South American capital to next to avoid being caught. But instead of laying low, of hiding, his mania for mongering forces him to return to these forums to get information and updates on the local scenes. Nibu posts and thereby reveals his latests whereabouts to his pursuers. They take up the chase again. And thus the Sysyphean game of cat and mouse continues on ad infinitum.
Don't give up the fight Nibu! Though they chastise and chase you, the perfect big-titted ***** is right around the corner! She's in Rosario or La Plata or perhaps in La Paz or Bogota--she's out there in the jungles. I have every faith that you will find her....
Another day in BA!
Before I forget, in the Recoleta neighbourhood, on Ayacucho Street, between Guido and Quitana, there is a Locutorio with high speed internet access. Ask for Number 5 and you get the last one, your back against the wall. Total privacy to surf.
And my thanks to The Saint himself, Fat Bastard and Down BA for the feedback on the brick background. This gave me more impulse to pursue my "quest" today. A chica I was with today (coming up in this post, keep reading) confirmed that indeed the bricks were from the Platynum office.
By the way I agree with LA Larry on Nibu. Very lyrical and poetic description.
Here it comes. Today´s report fresh and warm. I first called Ani/Vicky from Platynum (aka Azul from Area Vip).
Agreed to time. She quotes Peso 300. Ok, not happy about it. But she seems worth it. When I get there, no one. I call on the cell and fix line, nobody. Damn!
So I call Ayelen (check www.ayelenlove.com), who appears in Platynum under Maby and Abatha. Asks me to call in 90 mins. I do. Asks me to call back in a few minutes to finish what she is doing. And then no way to reach her, neither on Cell or land line. Bummer! This has to be a conspiracy. She did quote Peso 100 (the "normal" price); but no rear action.
Now I am getting worked up! I call Alexandra from Platynum (aka Denisse or Beth from Platynum; or Nicole from sensualbaires.com).
Anyways the most lookalike pics are the one as Beth.
Peso 100 an hour, with rear entry (goody!).
Get to her place, and finally, someone is there.
And GFE !!! BBBJ + Anal. Good bod, aging, as she is 32. But sweet, cultivated, smart, chatty, etc. A very good person and great in bed. I stayed for two hours at the rate of Peso 200.
As I have read in this forum, the cops do get their numbers from the Internet, locate where they live, and blackmail chicas into paying them. So it is not just the brothels who have to pay a "fee". She told me she often changes apartments to avoid that.
She also gave me some info on rent. Clearly I pay USD 45 a day, when normal rates for an appartment in the center are Peso 50 a day.
She also confirmed what Jackson has often said. Club Blacks is for idiots.
That is it for today. More to follow.
Just got back and I am exhausted. I enjoyed meeting everyone at the Thanksgiving dinner and the party at Jackson's apartment.
Nibu, I enjoyed meeting you Monday night. Johnguapo and I were the other 2 guys. I will post more information in the next few days.
James Bond. I don't have a good email address for you anymore. I enjoyed clubbing with you and Johnguapo on Monday night. When you contact Delores, tell her thanks for the help in negociations with Miriam and make sure that she remembers to pick up the soaps that I left for her at the Etoile hotel. I told her about the soaps on early Tuesday morning, but after a night with you, she may not be able to remember our conversation.
Hey Ya All How is it going? DC Your spainish seemed pretty good. Great you guys had fun club hopping. Last Night I met this hot short haired Big Titted blonde working like a block from the Orleans cafe in her car. I think for full service with her 70 pesos. She was 31 years old her cell phone number is 1545- 539 Her name is Marcela.... I found my kinky girl Paricia she now goes under the name of Vicky I forgot what here friends name is But her Negra friend is even more bustier then her. Vicki Aka Patricia now works out of an apartment on Corrientes 1250 4th floor number 4H. Her phone number is 4382-4802. Checked out the Wave Center too way too white ugly girls no Latin Blood at all too Damn White and no great bodies. I checked a place on Junin st. too not too far from Corrientes Man this older 40 Something lady was a *****. I checked out a kinky place with bondage girls. All the three girls had attitude problems but Big Titted Mayra was Built Maybe If I have time and Money I will book a session with her. They are located in Microcentro at Suipacha 1031 First floor Room number 9. Oh I think the Erotic restaraunt bar I checked out last night is called Lavere it is like on the 1600 block of Corrientes. A Bunch of sex shops and massage places on Corrientes. Tommorow I will look in to this massage place on Ave. Pastuer,,,,, WHEREVER THAT MAY BE???? I also will try to check out this place with a Big Breasted ex Vedette Blonde girl on Rividavia 57oo not fanatical on blonde white girls but any race of girls if the body is there then it is there,,,,,,,,, NIBU R......
DBoy/Todd/et al...
Hey guys! Just wanted to touch base since we got back, and I don't have either of yer emails.
Send me a note if yer in the mood!
captdave@aug.com
[QUOTE]Originally posted by b69
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By the way I agree with LA Larry on Nibu. Very lyrical and poetic description.
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I had the GREAT pleasure last night (and I mean this in all sincerity) to meet the legendary Nibu in person, along with fellow Mongers Johnguapo, El Jefe Jackson, DCrain and the incredible Shampoo based Delores, hooker for high IQ monger (she speaks five languages and can hold forth on determinism vrs. Free will for hours as well as giving a great sexual experience. Most of you guys can only talk about the dow jones and the latest episode of "Friends". With her you are having sex with both mind and body. In short, to me you guys most be a very bad fuck.
It's a geat HONOR to meet truly amazing people and Nibu is a true original (as if you can't tell from his posts.). I categorize him as an "alternative monger".
He's not paragraph friendly but there is more things in heaven and earth then are dreamth of in your philosophy (life), particulary the many mongers' that suffer living the "secret" double life ie: William Jefferson Clinton, Reverand Jerome Farwell and the many others in this forum, "happily" married and/or living the Enron Corporate life.
Nibu is a free sexual spirit, who lives exactly the life he wants and he seems quite content.
Anyway TODAY I'm in New York City now, reputibly the the most exciting city in the world but the reality is that it's about 30 degrees, there is snow on the sidewalk, everything is four times (at least)expensive than what I paid YESTERDAY in BA, the women have this hard American woman attitude: "I'm an independent woman, equal and even superior to you, fuck you and the 5,000 year old patriarchal system. I don't need you for sex, I don't need you for money. I don't need you even for friendship.". They are as much victims, as the double life mongers
Since I just got back I have many things to do...catch up on my bills, friends, family, loved ones, etc.... but expect numerous posts on some of my favorite subjects shortly, as I spent a month in BA, speak Spanish OK and really learned a great deal and I like sharing information and my opinions on:
1. Nibu, El Monger Alternativo - expect a detailed account , and yes LALarry, you are not that off-base, as Nibu physically looks like the classical grecian satry, without the cloven hoofs.
2. The shallow reporting on the BA scene: just posts on the tourist traps like Blacks and to a lesser extent the other recoleta tourist clubs, downtown as well. There is so much more, particularly the BROTHEL scene, that is potentially so much richer experience than the clubs and escort scene , I bet like the termos in Rio.
3. How to make a FORTUNE in Buenos Aires, buying at local prices and selling to the US. One monger made $20,000 PROFIT in a day(really!) buying super expensive $1,200 a bottle wines from Five Star hotels (where they were just in storage, since there was no longer any demand for expensive wines with the fallen foreign business) and selling it to a buyer in Japan but this guy was a pro
in his field , not for everyone (don't do this at home). He know the market. After his windfall he was in Blacks and one of the girls was let's see in the right time with the right gringo. She really cleaned up, which is what Blacks is about, like a casino hooker place, where you make a kiliing on the men who make a killing.
If you know about something - the price of an antique coin, chair, etc....and you go to BA, sell on ebay you will than in your boring corporate job and not have to lead a double dishonest life and lie about where you've been and what you've done, like the mongers that go on the tourist bullshit tango shows and musuems, to have pictures to show of BA, because they don't dare show their hooker pictures back home.
4. Apartments vrs. Hotels. Apartments are so much cheaper and you can do what you want. The Hotel Etoile has an ideal location, relatively inexpensive for what you get but the CAVEAT: To go upstairs the chica must be OVER 21 and only ONE chica at a time. All hotels have this policy in Recoleta.
5. The Local Boliches, with more info on Nuevo Estilo Boliche, my favorite so far (actually the only one I know, since the level of discovery on the BA list has so much further to go). I live in NYC and it's like reading about clubs in Times Square for tourists, when the real action is in other places, like 14th Street. The BA list is like this right now, tourist info BS from sex tourists.
6. The amateur scene. Argentines have the reverse of Xenophobia. They have Xenophilia. THEY LOVE FOREIGNERS, and particularly Americans. I'm not Brad Pitt but I was here for a month and speak Spanish. got laid for free toward the end and not after the American third date rule - first date sex, with woman who are in some cases more than my intellectual equals and far more than my physical equals. In short - vogue model material with brains and in some cases, money = soulmate material.
7. I would like to real more posts from Spanish speaking forum members. Spanish is like the easiest language in the world. Unlike English it's pronouced exactly as it is written and most people to get around with it in two months max.
No one in Argentine seems to speak the more difficult English language (even the middle and many in the upper classes) and these posts from non-Spanish speakers are really shallow and boring, like posts from the blind and deaf. If you don't speak Spanish you can't really explore like Johnguapo did with Clarin or Nibu is doing in downtown BA. It's just posts this girl fucks had a big hole and I have a big dick - so what?
Why don't you post to the BKK list, which is a list of SEX and - only sex - lovers?
If any of you Gentlemen (or others) met Maria Molinari at Jackson's party, and would like to see some of her paintings or read 2 of the stories she has translated, you can see them at
http://www.online-arts.net/portfolio/molinari
I'm personally impressed with her work...
I should just add to my post that I met over 40 mongers in my month long stay in BA and personally enjoyed the company of almost everyone.
1 % - the WEIRDOS ( who I didn't enjoy)
IMHO, A few mongers - very few, maybe one or two - less than 2% - were out and out freaks, Jeffrey Dalhmer type guys that can't relate to the other sex and even the same sex. hey. that's to be expected in sex tourism, right? It's going to attract the weirdo fringe and it did.
70% - the DOUBLE (401 K) LIFERS
Most (about 70%) were "double life" guys, trying best to enjoy their "normal" first life and also their "double monger life", it's not the type of (lie) life I personally would like to lead but (Who am I do judge?) these guys were great and I enjoyed hanging out with them. Most were over 40, so not exactly likely to pick up a "Playtum" type girl in a bar in their own town but that's the girl's problem, since they were great guys, maybe not Brad Pitt material physically but charming and interesting and ANYONE (even Anna Nicole Smith's deceased 92 year old hustand) can score in BA, as the only criteria is if you have 100-400 pesos for the services.
19% - SINGLE LIFE (I am what I am, go fuck yourself if you are against me having sex for money, you hypocritical Victorian swine who would love to be me) Mongers
About 19 % were single life guys and could care a fuck about whether people knew they were mongers, They had a rich life outside mongering and just were in it for the adventure and experience. Some of these guys were young, attractive and single and could get a girl at the local bar but some were over the age of easy amateur sex, some worked in the corporate world and had to be cool with me and other mongers but seemed to be quite secure with their lives - maybe they were investors in their companies, owners, had an unique skill, so were not afraid of losing their job because of a sex scandal. Who knows. Maybe they were even married but had an understanding with their wives (open, swinger type relationship). Again who knows but they were totally cool about what they were doing, no guilt ridden in the least, not afraid of what other people would think of them, very grounded dudes.
Anyway, 99% of you guys -double life and single life guys, doesn't matter - are my brothers as far as I'm concerned and it was a privilage go spend some time with you in the great city of Buenos Aires, which aside from the mongering side, is a world class city, which I would return to even if Mayor Rudy Giuiiani was mayor of Buennos Aires (highly unlikely) and banned sex clubs and streetwalkers, cigarrettes smoking in bars, subway turnstile jumping, public dringing and urination - all in the name of "quality life "and (in reality) his supporters in the outer boroughts (suburbs) and personal future (failed) senatorial (even presidential?) blind political ambitions .
PS
Rudy now has (Giuliani Associates) a private security company with the NYC ex police and fire chief and allegedly got a 3. 5 milliion dollar contract to clean up Mexico City. The check has been cashed but good luck with Rudy's phony consultant biz. Eventually someone will call him on his game.
jamesbond69,
Some comments:
1) You can occasionally make a good deal selling antiques or wine, but not as a sustainable activity. Remember that shipping antiques and paying custom taxes in destination bite a big part of the profits. Also, I have very close friends who studied Foreign Trade in Buenos Aires and they could barely make a living from the activity.
2) If you want to know about boliches that cater to locals, you can search my reports about the boliches in Flores and elsewhere. My experience as a 13+ years monger in BA is that you seldom find "la creme de la creme" in places for locals, but you find many average girls in these places as you do in the tourist circuit. I used to go to Downtown and Recoleta from time to time, but not regularly.
3) Argentinians like European foreigners and welcome (but not necessary like) Americans. However, Argentinians are not glad to host poorer immigrants from Bolivia and Paraguay, for instance. I read a report from Clarin last week that mentioned that the anger from Argentinians to Americans grew 37% last year.
Many of the mongers stick around Recoleta (a tourist, upper-class environment), where people are attentive and graceful with visitors. But if you go only 10-15 km from there you will see the difference. For instance, remember a posting from a bunch of mongers who went to Barrio Coreano. They felt the sneers in their necks.
4) I don't think that the Argentine upper class people don't speak English. Those who went to elite schools had extensive English language training.
Andres
Andres,
I really enjoy reading your posts, since you are Agentine and know the situation better than anyone in the forum but I respectively have to take issue with you one this post.
Some comments:
>1) You can occasionally make a good deal selling antiques or wine, but not as a sustainable activity. Remember that shipping antiques and paying custom taxes in destination bite a big part of the profits. Also, I have very close friends who studied Foreign Trade in Buenos Aires and they could barely make a living from the activity.
Argentine has no export industry, and this is in part of the root of the problem. Of course with 1-1 pesos for dollars everything was overprice, particularly with the rising value of the dollar and the competition after the Brazilian devaluation. For example Quilana is a fine beer but where except in Argentina is it sold, while the US market has beers from Brazil, Mexico, Europe (very expensive), Kirin (Japan), Fosters (Austraila) etc. The export industry in Argentina was the fifth lowest in the world, just above Haiti, Burunda and other third world country. And this is a country that in the 1920's was richer than Canada and producers enough food to feed a country with 280 million as the USA. Yet children are starving in Tuchaman. Argentina is a mismanaged enigma.
Buenos Aires is now a fire sale economy and items such as antiques can be had for far less than they are sold on EBAY. All you have to do is check out for example how much a Gaucho sword or NAZI silverware was sold on Ebay, then go to San Telmo and see how much it cost. I did. Of course there are shipping and duty costs but these items are selling in the shops and open air market for a fraction of what they going in an Ebay auction.
>2) If you want to know about boliches that cater to locals, you can search my reports about the boliches in Flores and elsewhere. My experience as a 13+ years monger in BA is that you seldom find "la creme de la creme" in places for locals, but you find many average girls in these places as you do in the tourist circuit. I used to go to Downtown and Recoleta from time to time, but not regularly.
One night I went out with Jose, an Argentine monger, to only local places. It's true that in general the best chicas go to Recoleta, as that's where the money is but there were some decent girls in these dives. And Johnguapo's experience with 40 pesos Clarin girls was very positive. Everyone in Argentine, from the average guy to the riches, has sex for sale and the quality can be the same as at the recoleta places but you have to work at it, that's for sure. I like the "girl next door" chica, and not all these girls have worked their way into the tourist places.
>3) Argentinians like European foreigners and welcome (but not necessary like) Americans. However, Argentinians are not glad to host poorer immigrants from Bolivia and Paraguay, for instance. I read a report from Clarin last week that mentioned that the anger from Argentinians to Americans grew 37% last year.
Like poor illegal Mexicans in Texas, Argentines certainly don't like the immigrants from Boliivia and Paraguay or even the internal immigrants to BA from the North, like Tuchaman. And they associate the American foreign and economic policy with the evil superpower, as everywhere on earth. And the men don't like the America sex tourists, because they fuck with the prices but in general the population likes Americans and looks at them differently individual, just as in American at the height of the cold war Americans didn't have problems with Russians individual but with the communist system. As for the Chicas they all knew what a girl cost in the states and what they are asking, so see a good customer in the gringo, particularly if they don't know a word of Spanish.
>Many of the mongers stick around Recoleta (a tourist, upper-class environment), where people are attentive and graceful with visitors. But if you go only 10-15 km from there you will see the difference. For instance, remember a posting from a bunch of mongers who went to Barrio Coreano. They felt the sneers in their necks.
>4) I don't think that the Argentine upper class people don't speak English. Those who went to elite schools had extensive English language training.
The real upper class speak English yes, just as in America. I'm middle class but went to Yale University, an upper class university and everyone spoke at least one foreign language. The first time I was in Argentina I stayed as a guest of the Tounquist family, who were like Rockerfellers and owned a bank and met only polo players, etc, all of whom went to the American Lincoln School or the even more post British St. George School and some spoke English better then me.
But when you go down a notch in society, to the upper middle or middle class they may have studied English but they don't have much opportunity to practice. And when you get into the clubs....the middle and lower class...well only one chica spoke any English on a conversational level.
jamesbond69.
After reading your critique of Argentina, I would add a category to your list of weirdos, double lifers, single lifers, and Nibu (one-of-a-kind) mongers: CAPY's ....condescending arrogant prick Yalies.
Like you I speak passable Spanish and have been to some of the outer barrios such as Flores, but unlike you I do not presume to judge as inferior beings those who do not speak Spanish or who do not wish to venture beyond the confines of Recoleta.
As for the nature of the posts here, uh, have you read the name of this forum? At the risk of stating the obvious....wouldn't a post about the looks and services provided by chicas from different boliches be more appropriate on a WORLD SEX GUIDE forum than, say, a post about the price of Nazi memorabilia?
I enjoy reading posts about a variety of things, including antiques. I also enjoy reading about guys sexual experiences, whether in Belgrano or Recoleta.
What I do not enjoy are posts that place mongers in neat little pigeon holes and presume to lecture them about how they choose to live their lives while in BA.....especially from one who has spent exactly one month in BA residing in the heart of Recoleta....
I am glad you had a good time in myfavorite city on earth but, jeez, look again at the tone of your post.....
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ezy
[i]jamesbond69.
>After reading your critique of Argentina, I would add a category to your list of weirdos, double lifers, single lifers, and Nibu (one-of-a-kind) mongers: CAPY's ....condescending arrogant prick Yalies.
I have never attacked anyone personally on this list as you have just done and am reluctant to start now. By attacking someone you do create a situation where one has to defend himself, although I will not attack you as part of my defense and wish you had sent me private email to respond. That out of the way, here is my response. ( know this post is boring, worthless to the point that it should be deleted but what can I do?)
>Like you I speak passable Spanish and have been to some of the outer barrios >such as Flores, but unlike you I do not presume to judge as inferior beings those who do not speak Spanish or who do not wish to venture beyond the confines of Recoleta.
I think it's great that you speak passable Spanish and go to the outer barrios. I don't know where you got the idea that I believe someone is inferior that doesn't speak Spanish or does not go beyond Recoleta. That's ridiculous. I merely state that the forum is:
1. about information and a complete picture of the monger scene in BA, and i find interesting but lacking all aspects, including outside Recoleta
2. That a knowledge of Spanish (or even better, being a native) certainly can enhance the fact finding mission of the monger and also the sexual one. I may be wrong about the latter part but that's my opinion. I'm sure you don't deliberate not speak Spanish in Argentina and studied it, so why critic me for bring this up?
>As for the nature of the posts here, uh, have you read the name of this forum? At the risk of stating the obvious....wouldn't a post about the looks and services provided by chicas from different boliches be more appropriate on a WORLD SEX GUIDE forum than, say, a post about the price of Nazi memorabilia?
I post all the time about chicas and different places but also many of us are thinking of moving to BA and supporting ourselves while there or paying for our trip somehow, so I merely suggested a few ideas. There was a prior post (an informative one IMHO) about buying jewelry in BA and selling them in the states at a profit but you didn't post against this, so I guess your post is concerned about the nature of the antiques - Nazi memorabilia. I mention this type of item for sale only since it is rare and available in Argentina more than other places, not because I am in anyway a Nazi. In fact if you know anything about my background I'm about as anti-Nazi as possible but don't see anything wrong about collecting things, unless it supports causes I am opposed to, and I doubt the money from the memorabilia goes to actual Nazi or even Nazi supporters. It's simply collectibles, like the Gaucho antique I also mentioned, that I doubt are sold by actual gauchos.
>I enjoy reading posts about a variety of things, including antiques. I also enjoy reading about guys sexual experiences, whether in Belgrano or Recoleta.
So do I and post about my experiences, in Recoleta, Belgrano and in other places. Where do you get the idea I don't welcome hearing from the mainstream places? I only point out that there are other places I would like to hear about as well.
>What I do not enjoy are posts that place mongers in neat little pigeon holes and presume to lecture them about how they choose to live their lives while in BA.....especially from one who has spent exactly one month in BA residing in the heart of Recoleta....
I didn't lecture anyone, so why are you lecturing me? I may bring up some categories and perhaps I am wrong or right, since someone posted some negative things about Nibu, and since I've met him and enjoy his posts, I was only trying to explain where I consider him in the scheme of mongering. Sorry if I hit some of your wrong buttons.
>I am glad you had a good time in myfavorite city on earth but, jeez, look again at the tone of your post.....
Look at the tone of your post. You critc me personally for:
1. Where I went to school, something I mentioned in response to a post about the Argentine upper classes.
2. Imply indirectly that I am somehow a supporter of Nazi?
Except for this post most of your posting contains interesting information. I rather hear more about your experience in Flores and what type of chicas you met there than a personal attack, wouldn't you?
jamesbond69:
1) Argentina has export industry: Oil, seamless pipes, sunflawer oil (1st producer in the World), lemons (1st supplier to Coca Cola), etc.
I agree that Argentina could have a much bigger export sector, but some realities hinder this endeavor:
- The US subsidizes the agricultural-livestock production of farmers, specially in the Midwest, and Europeans do the same. Hence, it is very difficult to export agricultural commodities.
- Argentina belongs to the Mercosur trading block, and Brazil is the main commercial partner. As such, Brazil exerts good and bad influences. Good because it buys 40% of Argentine exports, but bad because industrial manufacturing companies choose a single location for their offices and facilities in the Mercosur area, and this location is Sao Paulo. This means that companies like Renault, GM, Fiat, etc, are gearing towards closing the facilities in Argentina and open or adapt the Brazilian ones for the whole Mercosur market.
- There are some satellite exports that Argentina could pursue, but these are not significant, like wines. Many Argentine friends living in Boston try to sell Argentine wines in New England, only to find out that volumes traded are too low to be considered a "driving export" industry.
2) Quilmes (I guess you refer to that beer) has been considered by many visitors as very diluted, thus not suitable for some markets (for instance, Brazil). After living a couple of years in Boston, I think that trying to sell Argentine beer in Boston is like trying to sell American beef in Buenos Aires: Too high local quality to be able to compete. Brazilian beers (Brahma, Antarctica, etc) don't sell in America either because of the same reason.
3) Children were starving in Tucuman in 1920 too. It just got current media attention. Pagina 12 newspaper showed 2 weeks ago a front page with pictures of Tucuman children starving in 2002 and in 1980, and Argentina didn't enter the aftermath by 1980.
4) Buying or selling nazi memorabilia is a crime in Argentine laws, called "Apologia del Delito" ("Cult of crime" could be a good translation). Nobody can make sustainable sales volumes without being caught.
Andres
Andres,
You are as informative as ever in your response but I did read in several different journals and papers that in the last years of the one to one the export industry in Argentina was the fifth lowest in the world, just above Haiti, Burundi and two other countries that I can't recall. Is this true?
Also, on another subject, more on target for the WSF: the brothel scene in BA, which I have some questions on. On this list I've read only of two brothels by address - the French Street and Larrea Street Brothel, and visited both of them. You can find the exact address in this forum with the forum search function.
I really liked Larrea - nice rooms, assortment of chicas, reasonable prices amusing madame - and French Street is OK but not as good (will post late in detail about my experiences in both brothels) but there must be better places. I didn't have time to explore this part of the sex scene in BA, focusing more on the escort and club scene but I imagine it must be vast and varied, probably far more so than even the clubs.
I'm looking for a brothel that fits this description. Perhaps you or someone else in this forum knows of one and can provide the address and some comments.
1. Open day and most (all) of the night
2. Upscale facility, possibly with some heath club facilities like a sauna and/or swimming pool, along the lines of the termos in Rio or the Z club, described on the San Salvador site has having a full size swimming pools full of nude chicas.
3. Great assortment of chicas (define this as you will but I define it as Black level) but are available to mingle and have drinks with prior to making a selection (like in a club). The two brothels I visited has the line-up, which I don't like, and only eight chicas max. I'm looking for a brothel with a minimun of 20 to chose from.
4. Option to take out to your hotel, for an exit fee (this option is not a deal breaker but it would be great if possible.)
Does something like this exist in BA? It must but I couldn't find it.
PS
I've re-read my previous posts and I admit they are a bit cranky and even provocative in tone. Mark this down to suffering post BA withdrawal pains and also a natural reaction to some of the personal attacks that have appeared on the list lately. I will try to be a bit more on target factual in the future. I really love this forum and the guys I've met in BA. Everyone who posts determines to some extent the overall direction of the list. Some mongers use it as a personal diary, some a rating service, some exchange information or query...some provide historical and politial content to the experience....all of this is good and I have to admit I have my agenda also....I want to find out EVERYTHING about the monger scene in BA and also, since I plan to live down there, how to support my mongering. That's it, nothing more.
Hey,
I just checked out Black's Website
http://www.blackbuenosaires.com
It's quite interesting (intentionally deceiving),when you've been there and know what the place is really all about stating: "the most friendly atmosphere and more than good company."
Well who can argue with the good company part, right?
Does anyone have any URL's for other clubs and/or Boliche in BA? I'm curious to see how they present themselves.
Just a quick note to second what James Bond said about Delores. She is very intelligent with a great sense of humor. She also helped me in negotiating the services for a girl from Shampoo. Delores also works there. Delores is for those interested in an intelligent, attractive, mature woman with a great sense of humor.