American Politics during the Obama Presidency

"The debate over the federal budget and even the battle over the Federal Reserve are ultimately arguments over symptoms rather than the cause. The root of the fiscal crisis is the belief that the federal government is qualified to manage the economy, provide for the people's needs, and spread democracy throughout the world through either by foreign aid or by force of arms. Neither party in Washington questions the welfare-warfare state.

Until Congress begins debating questions such as whether or not we really need thousands of military facilities around the world, whether or not we should shut down the Education Department and return control to local communities and parents, and whether we should allow young people to completely op-out of the entitlement programs, the so-called debates in Washington, D.C. Will continue to amount to nothing but sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[URL]http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article39528.html[/URL]

As long as we continue to send trash to Washington we will continue to get trash back. Garbage in, garbage out!

Kudos to Bloomberg. Finally, we are going to see some real lobbying on the pro-gun control side of the debate.

Check out the ads called "Responsible" and "Family":
[URL]http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/03/24/nra_bloomberg_get_ready_for_gun_control_showdown.html[/URL]

Some guy with a beard and a rifle says he'll fight for his second amendment rights, but he'll support background checks to prevent criminals and the mentally ill from obtaining guns. Sounds like common sense, right? Background checks have huge support, even within the NRA. Bloomberg strategically pitches for what's possible. But NRA president Wayne LaPierre is vowing to fight back. He'll accuse Bloomberg of reckless comments, while making wild statements like Bloomberg is trying to buy America, and trying to take away people's guns.

Bloomberg comes across as a class act here. LaPierre, just a self-serving lobbyist. Can't wait to see the NRA ads, no doubt they will be dishonest and misleading, that's all you got when fighting against 90% public opinion.

Bloomberg is a man ahead of his time, he gives us a preview of the "Nanny State" the left wants to shove down our throats, but at the end of the day he's just another leftwing-nut totalitarian.

The NRA will do more for gun safety in one day than Bloomberg and propagandist like Esten will do in a lifetime.

Here's some excellent Pro Constitution testimony.

"The Constitution Did Not Guarantee Public Safety. It Guaranteed Liberty".

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ledhyTAE2zo&feature=player_embedded[/URL]

Growing Up in Texas:

Growing up in Texas as a child I attended "Gun Shows" almost every weekend. My father would rent a table in a convention center for $30.00 dollars and we bought, sold and traded weapons as a HOBBY. Without a dealer's license or a background check. I can remember taking 4 Nazi Lugers to a gun show and the guy that sold tickets bought them from me before I even entered the gun show. Sure, I lost money but we were always able to buy, sell and trade to anyone without a check.

I bought every kind of weapon that you can imagine, I collected Nazi daggers as a Hobby and it paid off in Spades when I sold my collection. I wish I still had them!

Point is that the non registered dealers were and are able to buy and sell and trade weapons without a backround check.

You could buy a flame thrower, and machine gun receivers to convert my semi auto into a full-auto toy of dreams for a 12 year old kid.

Sure, I can remember that some dumb ass shot himself at the gun show because the seller did not check the gun.

So now what happens?

The bond between a father and his son going fishing or hunting or sharing a HOBBY is going to be contaminated by the Yanks! (Gloomberg!).

Bad Boys don't register guns, they just buy them on the street. Or at gun shows!

May they come to Texas where the Texas Prison System removes the life of 25 innocent criminals per year!

Nobody is innocent in prison.

No way that a background check will determine if a loon is a loon!

TL.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;432691]Growing Up in Texas:

Growing up in Texas as a child I attended "Gun Shows" almost every weekend. My father would rent a table in a convention center for $30.00 dollars and we bought, sold and traded weapons as a HOBBY. Without a dealer's license or a background check. I can remember taking 4 Nazi Lugers to a gun show and the guy that sold tickets bought them from me before I even entered the gun show. Sure, I lost money but we were always able to buy, sell and trade to anyone without a check.

I bought every kind of weapon that you can imagine, I collected Nazi daggers as a Hobby and it paid off in Spades when I sold my collection. I wish I still had them!

Point is that the non registered dealers were and are able to buy and sell and trade weapons without a backround check.

You could buy a flame thrower, and machine gun receivers to convert my semi auto into a full-auto toy of dreams for a 12 year old kid.

Sure, I can remember that some dumb ass shot himself at the gun show because the seller did not check the gun.

So now what happens?

The bond between a father and his son going fishing or hunting or sharing a HOBBY is going to be contaminated by the Yanks! (Gloomberg!).

Bad Boys don't register guns, they just buy them on the street. Or at gun shows!

May they come to Texas where the Texas Prison System removes the life of 25 innocent criminals per year!

Nobody is innocent in prison.

No way that a background check will determine if a loon is a loon!

TL.[/QUOTE]Bloomberg needs a background check himself for trying to tell us we can't order a 2 Liter Coke and large pizza for a family of 4. He's a looney for trying to ban 1/2 liter bottle of soda. Give me a break!

"We the People of the United States, in Order to
form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I'm not taking any position, I just thought that some actual words from the Consititution might be helpful.

Bob.

[QUOTE=Punter127;432689]Bloomberg is a man ahead of his time, he gives us a preview of the "Nanny State" the left wants to shove down our throats, but at the end of the day he's just another leftwing-nut totalitarian.

The NRA will do more for gun safety in one day than Bloomberg and propagandist like Esten will do in a lifetime.

Here's some excellent Pro Constitution testimony.

"The Constitution Did Not Guarantee Public Safety. It Guaranteed Liberty".

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ledhyTAE2zo&feature=player_embedded[/URL][/QUOTE]

Maybe look at the homicides by gun:

Gun Murders per 100,000 (2010)
Texas 3.2%
Illinois 2.8%

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state[/URL]

[QUOTE=AllIWantIsLove;432705]insure domestic Tranquility[/QUOTE]Sounds like Constitutional support for responsible gun control.

[QUOTE=AllIWantIsLove;432705]"We the People of the United States, in Order to
form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I'm not taking any position, I just thought that some actual words from the Consititution might be helpful.

Bob.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob, welcome to the conversation, I'm always happy to see people actually read the constitution, I wish more people had respect for it.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make (if any) posting the preamble to the constitution, but I will point out that it does not and [B]can not[/B] guarantee public safety, just like we can't guarantee highway safety or any other type of safety.

When you get right down to it the only person really responsible for your safety is you.

The Preamble to the Constitution is just a brief introductory statement of the Constitution's fundamental purposes and it speaks in general terms.

The Constitution does however guarantee liberty and the Second Amendment of the Constitution does guarantee that our right to keep and bear arms will not be in fringed.

[I]"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, [B][u]the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[/u][/B]"[/I]

[QUOTE=Punter127;432750]Hi Bob, welcome to the conversation, I'm always happy to see people actually read the constitution, I wish more people had respect for it.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make (if any) posting the preamble to the constitution, but I will point out that it does not and [B]can not[/B] guarantee public safety, just like we can't guarantee highway safety or any other type of safety.

When you get right down to it the only person really responsible for your safety is you.

The Preamble to the Constitution is just a brief introductory statement of the Constitution's fundamental purposes and it speaks in general terms.

The Constitution does however guarantee liberty and the Second Amendment of the Constitution does guarantee that our right to keep and bear arms will not be in fringed.

[I]"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, [B][u]the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[/u][/B]"[/I][/QUOTE]"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Wow, above quote about bearing arms was in plain English and very clear, to the point and easy to understand. The President and Congress are sworn by oath to uphold this (and every) tenet of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

I recently found an interesting quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin:

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote".

[QUOTE=AllIWantIsLove;432705]"We the People of the United States, in Order to
form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I'm not taking any position, I just thought that some actual words from the Consititution might be helpful.

Bob.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SilverStar;432753]"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Wow, above quote about bearing arms was in plain English and very clear, to the point and easy to understand. The President and Congress are sworn by oath to uphold this (and every) tenet of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.[/QUOTE]So if we deny a criminal a gun, is that unconstitutional?

[QUOTE=Esten;432775]So if we deny a criminal a gun, is that unconstitutional?[/QUOTE]How can a criminal have a gun when he is in jail?