American Politics during the Obama Presidency

I'm putting Doppel on ignore for awhile.

Regarding the discussion on what states report mental health records, he originally claimed this was a 'liberal' problem. I twice stated it's not really a red or blue issue, but still in his last post he claims I assume it's a "red state" issue. Either he is dumb as a rock, or up to tomfoolery.

He also continues to obfuscate the discussion about background checks and Canada's gun registry effort. They are different things, and I explained this before. By continuing to repeat this, I can only conclude he is willingly trying to deceive.

The most important lesson from Chicago is that we need stricter, nation-wide gun laws. Surrounding areas within Illinois, and nearby states, have looser gun laws, so it's easy to get guns to criminals in Chicago. Yes it's actually that simple, which makes it remarkable that the gun lovers think Chicago is a good argument against more gun control.

Where Chicago's Guns Come From
[URL]http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/08/where-chicagos-guns-come/3090/[/URL]

Is this what we want?

[URL]http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm[/URL]

Is this what we need?

TL.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;432990][i]Peggy Noonan, quoting Lee Kuan Yew, former prime minister of Singapore. When he took office as prime minister, in 1959, per capita income was about $400 per year. Last year it was more than $50,000.[/i]

And America goes the way of modern Europe at its peril: "If you follow the ideological direction of Europe, you are done for." There are always people who require help, but "addressing their needs must be done in a way that does not kill incentive."

"Americans and European governments believed that they could always afford to support the poor and the needy: widows, orphans, the old and homeless, disadvantaged minorities, unwed mothers. Their sociologists expounded the theory that hardship and failure were due...to flaws in the economic system. So charity became 'entitlement' and the stigma of living on charity disappeared." Welfare costs grew faster than the government's willingness to raise taxes. They "took the easy way out by borrowing to give higher benefits to the current generation of voters." The result: deficits and dangerously high public debt.[/QUOTE]"For what is a man profited, if he gain the whole world, and loses his own soul".

Growing up in Singapore, penniless, searching for bottles for redemption so as to be able to watch soccer in the standing terraces. Then a leisurely stroll through the red light district, getting chided by the girls for window-shopping. And now, the only free pleasure left in Singapore is to fart.

Don't cry when you visit Singapore, you have been warned.

[QUOTE=Esten;432991]I'm putting Doppel on ignore for a while][/QUOTE]Does anyone wonder why AP is now the 2-4 posts a day board it has now become. Members brag about who they have now put on ignore. Although many who boast about who they ignore, they suddenly appear commenting on those that they claim to be ignoring! Is this what we have become? Why do we behave in this manner? If you don't like the dialoug then stop posting. Why announce you are now putting whoever on ignore. What does this accomplish? If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Does anyone wonder why the board is at an all time low when it comes to posting? Years ago, no one used the "I am putting you on ignore" statement. We have become an ugly people I am afraid. Unlike the local board, the anti-price police have now discouraged anyone from posting the basics (price, service, quality). Now on the political thread, that used to be at least a free exchange of diametrically opposed positions, we are now ignoring those that we can no longer legitimately debate! WTF! I am not singling you out Esten, but when where your sensibilities so easily offended. We have become an ugly people and sadly it is ever so obvious for all to see. Toymann Out.

Esten like Obama believe it's their way or the highway. They know they are "right" but are unable to provide any evidence their programs work. Placing someone on the "ignore" list is tantamount to the childish conduct of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "I can't hear you" or "Na Na Na Na".

The solution the Liberals want is more "background checks" expanded to include gun shows and internet purchases which are problematic at best when it comes to enforcement. You might want to know the licensed dealers at the gun shows are already required to and do run background checks, what we are dealing with here are the individuals selling and trading weapons. The requirement for citizen to citizen sales to also fall under this law is simply unenforceable due to the number of weapons already in the hands of private citizens. What is the point in attempting to pass a law that is unenforceable? Can anyone say Prohibition?

As I pointed out in my earlier post the only possible way this scheme could work is for every weapon in every home, business or other location be registered by make, model, caliber and serial number which is simply not possible. I alluded to Canada's attempt to do that very thing with a much smaller population and it was a total failure.

I did enjoy reading Esten's link to why Chicago has so many gun laws but they have failed to reduce the murder rate. The duel excuses are it's not their fault because the criminals are getting their guns outside of Chicago and based on excuse number one you need to make the law national to make it work. The one thing I did notice about the article was it only cited the origin of the weapon and not if the weapon was stolen or the crime committed by the original owner. I think those would be important things to know.

If gun control laws worked, why is there a war in Mexico between the government and cartels?

The Philippines used our constitution as a guide for theirs.

70 percent of the people have guns.

1200 politicians have been killed in the last 10 years.

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[QUOTE=Toymann;432994]Does anyone wonder why AP is now the 2-4 posts a day board it has now become.[/QUOTE][blue]Hey Toyman,

Have you been doing your research on the Huffington Post?

Here are the real numbers for the past month:

Argentina Private - Daily Posts
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April 07, 2013 = 27
April 06, 2013 = 15
April 05, 2013 = 29
April 04, 2013 = 25
April 03, 2013 = 14
April 02, 2013 = 11
April 01, 2013 = 13
March 31, 2013 = 17
March 30, 2013 = 20
March 29, 2013 = 20
March 28, 2013 = 18
March 27, 2013 = 19
March 26, 2013 = 25
March 25, 2013 = 14
March 24, 2013 = 29
March 23, 2013 = 23
March 22, 2013 = 20
March 21, 2013 = 33
March 20, 2013 = 51
March 19, 2013 = 22
March 18, 2013 = 27
March 17, 2013 = 28
March 16, 2013 = 16
March 15, 2013 = 37
March 14, 2013 = 32
March 13, 2013 = 31
March 12, 2013 = 43
March 11, 2013 = 10
March 10, 2013 = 21[/blue]

I wonder what this crew is representative of in the cross section of the USA. Back to not viewing the political threads on AP. The political discussions on the wall street journal, yahoo and other places are of more interest.

[QUOTE=MiamiBob;433005]I wonder what this crew is representative of in the cross section of the USA. Back to not viewing the political threads on AP. [/QUOTE]Not the "cross section". The "biopsy".;)

[QUOTE=Sidney;433002]Among others-name calling, character assassination, preferential treatment for some mongers, deletions without cause, moderator favorites, unknown taboo subjects, mas.[/QUOTE][blue]Hey Sidney,

Please feel free to [size=+2][b][u]Fuck[/u] [u]Off[/u][/b][/size] at any time.

Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I posted this under Report POST.

OUT of Line comments.

[QUOTE=Jackson;433009][blue]Hey Sidney,

Please feel free to at any time.

Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackson;433004][blue]Hey Toyman,

Have you been doing your research on the Huffington Post?

Here are the real numbers for the past month:

Argentina Private - Daily Posts
=========================
April 07, 2013 = 27

March 10, 2013 = 21[/blue][/QUOTE]I was basing my activity numbers on what shows up on the "front page" Jax. What is the huffington post? Must be a funny reference I guess. Toymann.

Ps. Ok. Googled huffington post. LMAO. I am sure you understand why I have never heard of it. That said, I am guessing WT69 and Esten have online, real-time subscriptions. Lol.

The Bible:

[URL]http://www.shotgunnews.com/[/URL]

In Hard Copy form it's a gun lovers Hustler complete with a centerfold!

I am CONVINCED that it's the defense attorneys that are against the legalization of marijuana and that they are behind gun control because it's the attorneys that will lose so much money that they could make by defending the drug and weapons case defendants.

TL.

Order a copy of SN Today!

I mail-ordered the full-auto trigger group for my .308 HK 91 which converted it to a G-3 fully automatic assault rifle with a selector switch . Single shot , 3 round burst and full auto .

You can order the trigger group but you can't mount it on your civilian rifle without a shitload of permits and signatures , background checks , licenses , etc . You can but you get 20 years at Club Fed !

I guess the point is that you can mail-order an arsenal .

[QUOTE=Jackson;433009][blue]Hey Sidney,

Please feel free to at any time.

Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Mongers-.

The real question remains: When will the Jackson / Sidney rapprochement happen? It's obvious that Sidney is itching to maneuver his way back into the good graces of the AP community (he wouldn't be posting on here if he wasn't) and that Jackson has a boulder of guilt on his shoulders for banishing Sidney to that toilet known as the Dominican Republic. Perhaps if Sidney could secure the cure for his chronic jungle fever and keep it under wraps for good then Jackson could allow re-entry to the AP house?