Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

Ok Guys --- I think I need a little R & R next month and yes the Etoile has lumpe bed's --- Can anyone recomend a reasonably price accomadations in Recoleta --- And one more thing --- If you guys keep this up, Buenos Aires is going to be ruined by all of us --- Argentina has been a well kept secret and its is my believe that its being ruined by this board --- Exon

[QUOTE]Originally posted by exon123
[i] .....Argentina has been a well kept secret and its is my believe that its being ruined by this board --- Exon [/i][/QUOTE]

How so ? There is enough in EZE so as to allow enough of us :)

Those airfares look great but now I get the gist. Those fares are all East coast fares so most of you guys have to be on the East coast. No wonder BA is your playground. Are all you BA regulars East Coast guys?

I am closer to the West Coast so TJ, Thailand, the PI and other parts of Asia make better travel options. I don't have frequent flyer miles. With tax I don't want to pay $700 or even $600 to go to BA. If I had an airfare for under $400 I'd already be there. Anyone know of any cheap way to get to BA from the West coast not including courier?

dosequis....uh, it is usually best to put the cart before the horse...
In this case that means checking out the price of airfare before you ask for detailed information about what to do and where to stay once you arrive.....if you aint goin it don't matter whether the Lancaster Hotel lets chicas in the rooms ....

But if you really want to go check previous posts and you will find several lower cost options available from the West Coast to Argentina for around $500....$520 to be exact.....

exon: Wow...talk about a contradiction....You chastize us for posting information about Buenos Aires while at the same time asking for us to post information about Buenos Aires......

I know of several reasonably priced lodging options in BA, but if I post the info you request will you thank me or spank me?

LOL. I totally agree with Ezy. I have to shake my head sometimes and laugh at some of you because you take and take and take from the board. Then you complain, complain, complain. Argentina is a huge city. Trust me, it's far enough away that no one will "ruin" it. The other thing that seperates it from other destinations is there is not one central area where there are hobbyist. For the most part (except at night) the action in Buenos Aires is discreet.

Some of the active hobbyist post to share information with you all. Jackson, I think it's high time to get the PRIVATE board going. I know that many of us are members of other boards and I can tell you that the other boards have no members that complain about information. The thing that I can equate it to is someone that hits the jackpot lottery and then bitches and complains the whole time about having to pay the taxes on it. They don't realize how lucky they are to have come across "it" and all the while complain about something.

Trust me, you won't realize what you lost until there are no posts on the board and everyone is saying, "hey, where did all the posters go". Good luck all.

[blue]Hi Saint,

I'm working on it. Expect an announcement sometime in the next couple of weeks.

Jackson.[/blue]

Posted from BA in early June but had to cut my trip short and return home (family bereavement). Even after 3 days there I knew it was the place to go and am checking fares for a six week trip either Nov or Jan.

A note to some of the 'vicarious readers'. Until you start making a contribution yourselves, I would suggest you don't complain too much, or this great service might just go off-limits. That would be a loss to us all. Getting to BA and having a good time isn't just the chicas; hotels and fares all play their part. Maybe everyone who takes off the board should find somewhere/somebody new to report on. We can't always depend on Saint, Ezy and a few other regular contributors who probably supply 90% of the posts. Respect and thanks to all you guys.

While I was there I walked around Congresso, San Telmo (don't miss the market on sunday) at any hour and felt totally safe, so I'd recommend getting out of Recoletta occasionally. A great Italian restaurant is Campo dei Fiori (corner of San Jose and Venezuala tel: 4381-0682).

Next trip I'll spend a week in BA to start and finish and check out a few other places, like Cordorba, and definitely Mar del Plata.

And definitely post!
SteveC

BA on the brain pretty much describes me since my visit early this month.

Summing it all up, I would say that the Argentine woman is more affectionate and hotter than I had imagined. They seem to like being approached from the rear, and do their actress best to try to convince you that you are the biggest stud they have ever run into. Compared to Rio, the only difference seemed to be that they don't do francesca without a rubber without some encouragement, but I felt more at home in BA and think it is the best spot in the world right now.

Concerning the police question below. I would say they are more like American police; they are out in force, but do not take much interest in you. In Latin America, customs/immigration officials are often totally corrupt assholes, but in BA they just get you in and out with no fuss. I was not cheated out of a single peso in BA; it seems they have certain standards of behaviour that not even a depression is going to change.

I am going back after the Summer heat lets up next year. Want to go to places like Salta, Mendoza, Bariloche. Must be action there, and would like to hear any information any of you might have about these tourist spots.

I totally agree with Roberto. Customs is great in BA. Never hassle you at all. The first trip I went, they looked through my bag and the girl opened the side pouch and it had about 50 condoms, lube, etc. She quickly closed it and let me on my way. (Since then I've packed all the goodies in my checked bag...).

The police are definitely out in force. I noticed more of a presence this past trip. I've stopped and asked them directions before and they've always been friendly with me.

I want to strongly encourage guys not to give their business cards to chicas unless you are NOT married, don't care if people know you are in the hobby, etc. Some of the girls I'm friends with always ask me if I know..."John Doe..." and so and so. They assume that if we are executives then we might know their clients sometimes. I was shocked when she was asking me about some senior level executive in Florida. She told me his full name, his title and the company he works for. I also chat with a few girls on web camera so I can see them and your business cards sometimes when they hold them up to the camera.

Guys, if she is asking me....odds are she is mentioning your names to other guys. Don't assume these girls will honor and respect your privacy. Like I said, some guys probably could care less but I doubt you want your name and company name mentioned to other dudes. Who knows who else is looking at your business cards while being informed that you are a client of theirs.

The smart thing to do is to just get the chica's email address. Just about every girl I've talked to has an email address in Buenos Aires. I've communicated with a ton of them on a regular basis. Also, if you give her your email address... make sure you make one up on hotmail or yahoo or one of the other sites. Who knows if they will accidentally forward your email address to other people. One time last week a chica forwarded me a joke. She included what appeared to be all of her clients that she had the email address for in her address book. I noticed several of the guy's email addresses were from their company's email system. It included their first and last names. For example: [email]john.doe@ibm.com[/email] Like I said, do NOT use personal email addresses.

Many of you are single guys and don't think about things like this but also remember that some of us no matter what our marital status is signed "morality clauses" in our contracts at work. Granted, it would be hard to enforce something like this...but why give your company a reason to terminate you if you're sitting on the fence with them or they are laying off. (Many of you that are Senior Level executives or higher at public companies signed these whether you know it or not). Good luck all.

Saint

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]LOL. I totally agree with Ezy. I have to shake my head sometimes and laugh at some of you because you take and take and take from the board. Then you complain, complain, complain. Argentina is a huge city. Trust me, it's far enough away that no one will "ruin" it.

... And I totally agree with Saint ... I had such a laugh reading what Exon posted ... I couldn't believe what he was saying ..... I have been reading the WSG Argentina Forum since January 2002, immediately after the devaluation, every single day and I am one of those who takes and takes and takes (since I have never been to BA) ….. I heard so many “interesting” things about BA that I changed my mind (previously thinking about Rio de Janeiro) … so I am going to be there (coming from far Europe, 13 hours flight) in one month time, staying for 7 nights and …. I just find ridiculous what Exon said earlier on today …. I’ll be staying to Design Suites (thanks to Mayri, [url]www.argentinago.com[/url] ) and I’ll do my best to tell you guys as much as possible about this apart hotel (didn’t find much information about this place so far in the board… chica-friendliness, attitudes of the management towards hobbyists, ecc …) and about all the chicas I am going to “entertain” (hope not less than 2 every single day) …. So I hope I’ll be able to give something back to this great forum, sorry … forgot to say free forum (thanks Jackson) ….. and I am thankful to all those guys who shared and are still sharing their time and experiences with us, LA Larry, Starfe, DownBA, Andres, Ezy, Moondoog, Yabba, Toosh, Tio Otto de Buenos Aires (Otto Graham),Saint just to name a few …. Believe it or not, I’ve just bought my first digital camera on purpose for my first trip to BA (hey Saint, in 1 month time it will be me sending you nice pics of “portenas” rather than the other way around, just wait and see).
Anyway, to cut a long story short, you guys just wait until the 26th of October and I’ll try to give back as much as I can, probably something different, I am Italian but live in the UK …. BA seen from a European point of view …. Probably my comments will be slightly different from most of the other guys because I am used to Italian and Spanish chicas ….. Thank you all, rob_roy

Saint, Ezy, Jackson and other frequent posters, I truly appreciate the information you provide through your posts. Please dont stop on account of some ridiculous request. I have been to Argentina several times, the most recent being in late December. I did not have the opportunity to "play" on my last visit but am returning in 3 weeks and will this time. I promise to repay you with info posts on a daily basis.

Saint, you stated in a post that blacks, playwoman and others were subpar compared to your last visit. Did you find the internet girls to be more attractive than the girls in the clubs? Were there any 8-10's? I am lining up some internet girls from platynum for daytime fun, but wondering if I should do the same for nite time?

hey rob_roy5 - post here if you will be in b.a. oct17-21 and want to meet up... staying at art suites again...

Saint,

I TOTALLY agree with your post about confidentiality. I met this 5'2", 110lbs., blonde Brazilian, named Emily, at Playwoman in June. After spending time in my room, we decided to go for coffee, at which point she began telling me about the guys with whom she exchanges email in the US. She even pulled out a letter this guy had written, his business card AND a photograph he had mailed. And she's telling me all about how he stayed at the Etoile several weeks before, etc.
Now, guys, I'm from the old school...no paper trail, use cash when possible, use an alias when possible, anonymous email, etc. This poor schmuck has no idea that his personal information is NOT being kept in the strictest confidence. He's in the States dreaming about the hot chica he has back in BsAs, and she's showing me ALL of his personal information (including work and home mailing addresses,email addresses and phone numbers) saying, "This is the guy I f---ed four weeks ago." TAKE A MOMENT AND LET THAT SINK IN!

Keep your cards close to your vest and stay... "invisible".

Drgn

Guys:

The area of San Jose and Venezuela ia a terrific place to dine out.
I recommend you 2 places near Campo dei Fiori (which is also very good):

- PLAZA MAYOR: Perhaps, the best Spaniard restaurant in Buenos AIres. EXCELLENT sea food (paellas, cazuelas de mariscos), obscene desserts (those that can kill your liver) and very good wine.

- PROSCIUTTO: One block from there, in the corner of Santiago del Estero and Venezuela. An Italian restaurant, with a "retro" decorations (old appliances hanging from the walls, old jukeboxes, etc). Pasta and ham (prosciutto means ham in Italian) are so good that your physicians would punish you for such colesterol excess. I recommend Spaghetti with mushrooms, Pan de campo (nice bread topped with mozzarella) and also obscene desserts (same owner as Plaza Mayor and Campo dei Fiori).


Personal information:

Unfortunately, the Argentine culture disregards the value of confidentiality. Many girls will tell you "Sure, absolute discretion!" only to talk about you and your looks to their friends 2 hours later. RELEASE AS LESS INFO AS POSSIBLE.

Even government databases are sold in software copyhouses for a few dollars, so datamarketers use this info to pest people.

I receive 50+ spam e-mail messages every day in my old address. 80% of them come from Argentina, selling me everything, even femenine towels.

Be careful.


Customs:

Usually, they are fast and non-harassing, even for us Argentinians. I was able to bring my laptop without any hassle last July. Since I pushed the button and got a green light, no problem.

However, BE CAREFULL ABOUT MONEY!!! Last week, a woman was arrested when trying to leave from Ezeiza to Fuimicino (Rome) with $80,000 in cash. You can only take $10,000 per trip from the country (just in case any of you thinks about bringing money to buy an apartment).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Please gentlemen, don't spam me for this message, but I'm have to ask this question. Are there a lot of older chicas (40+) in Buenos Aires that I can have fun with?