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[QUOTE=Badboy13]Hey does anyone know what the law in BA is regarding carrying mace or a stun gun. I usually dress casual, but I sometimes wear nice watches and sometimes dress nice. I am just wondering because I don't mind getting into a good ol' scrap but if there are usually multiple attackers or they have a weapon, a nice stun gun or mace might do some good.
Badboy[/QUOTE]In Argentina you can do whatever you want.
I would worry more about stuff like metal detectors at boliches.
[QUOTE=Redondo]In Argentina you can do whatever you want.[/QUOTE]So you're telling us in Argentina we can carry any kind of weapon we want?
So I can carry my normal concealed carry weapon, just like at home, I find that hard to believe?
Carrying concealed weapons (slaps, brass knuckles, stun guns, mace, asps, etc) is illegal. I imagine a small pocket knife like a swiss army style with less than 3 blade would be okay but a 4" folding buck would draw scrutiny)
Carrying concealed firearms without a permit is illegal.
I spoke with some cops several years ago and they confirmed.
[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Carrying concealed weapons (slaps, brass knuckles, stun guns, mace, asps, etc) is illegal. I imagine a small pocket knife like a swiss army style with less than 3 blade would be okay but a 4" folding buck would draw scrutiny)
Carrying concealed firearms without a permit is illegal.
I spoke with some cops several years ago and they confirmed.[/QUOTE]Thanks that ’s the way I thought it was but I wasn ’t sure, so I didn ’t want to just say it (Redondo) was wrong.
Thomas 276 is absolutely correct and I disagree with carrying mace or stun guns. It's a sure way of getting yourself shot or badly hurt!
Having any sort of concealed weapon means having to be 100% alert at all times. The crooks always use the surprise factor and to try to go for your stunner or mace once you are in the middle of a robbery is the most sure way to get your face smashed in.
If for some reason you do happen to be carrying valuables, the best thing is to keep alert. Look around you, look at the people following you in the face and make sure they know you are looking at them. Do unexpected things like walk halfway down a block and turn on your heels and return.
Crooks usually work in quite large bands. If they have singled you out to be robbed, you will be followed by two or three different people till the place and moment is right then you get "hit".
Of course, if you are out for an evening with a chica such paranoid behaviour wouldn't be advisable. So just carry the minimum you really need for that evening.
[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Carrying concealed weapons (slaps, brass knuckles, stun guns, mace, asps, etc) is illegal. I imagine a small pocket knife like a swiss army style with less than 3 blade would be okay but a 4" folding buck would draw scrutiny)
Carrying concealed firearms without a permit is illegal. I spoke with some cops several years ago and they confirmed.[/QUOTE]Thomaso, I'm not sure you are correct regarding the illegality of carrying a stun gun. As I understand it, here in Argentina you are allowed to, if you care to, carry a stun gun. The internet site below states clearly that the use of a stun gun is legal in Argentina.
[url]http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-29798818-electroshock-200000-voltios-legal-y-no-letal-_JM[/url]
Thomaso, skip the ads for the stun guns and go directly to the section in which they discuss the legality of stun guns.
I thought about buying one when I first started jogging here in the city and started seeing packs of abandoned dogs. After a while I realized the dogs are fairly sweet. Just abandoned by assholes. The other time I thought of buying a stun gun is when I was jogging early one morning in Parque Tres de Febrero and two of Exon's girlfriends, travesties, started jogging next to me in 6 inch pumps, fishnet stockings, boas wrapped around their necks, and with their silicone boobs blowing in the early morning wind. I started laughing so hard at the sight of these two ridiculous travesties I almost fell down. They turned out to be just as harmless as the abandoned dogs.
Thomaso, I've been to quite a few rough areas of the city and so far I haven't had the need to carry a concealed weapon. However, I do, occasionally, think about carrying one.
[QUOTE=Punter 127]So you're telling us in Argentina we can carry any kind of weapon we want?
So I can carry my normal concealed carry weapon, just like at home, I find that hard to believe?[/QUOTE]I don't know if you legally carry a (stun) gun, but as laws are not enforced in Argentina so you probally can.
I don't know what the chances are of you getting searced in Argentina but I only get searced if I go to a boliche, airport, Buquebus or a soccer game.
I think if you avoid these places or leave your gun at home you will be fine.
But what the "end result" might be of carrying the weapons.
I think if a crook sees a weapon, there are two possible reactions;
- He will run away! (That is what you hope for)
- He might get a lot more violent, and try to get control over the weapon. (That is what the most likely reaction is) He might think / guess / hope that you do not want to use the weapon. (As written earlier by Aqualung.)
And if you use your weapon to wound / kill the attacker, what will be the legal consequence?
No, I think it is smarter to stay away from the weapons.
Sure you can carry a gun all your life and never get into trouble as police don't do random searches but the reason you do carry it is to use it when things go bad. Use a weapon and kill someone (a crook, an unarmed robber and innocent bystander) and you'll find yourselves rotting in an Argentine clink for a few years.
The legislation about carrying stun guns is not very clear but I'll look it up sometime this week.
I can assure you that carrying a weapon is bad news and it never ends well. I know what I'm talking about.
All you need to know it's in here, there is also an english version.
[url]www.renar.gov.ar[/url]
Renar only regulates firearms and explosives but has nothing to do with the legislation about other kinds of weapons such knifes, stunguns, mace, knuckle dusters, clubs etc.
And kill the wrong person even if you do have a permit for carrying a firearm and your still fucked.
If you are found guilty of murder for the 1st time, you can stay as maximum 5 years in prision. If you are 70 and older you can stay at home. This includes killing someone with a car.
The question probally is do you want to walk around with a gun, probally scared and seeing behind every tree a crook.
Or do you walk around unarmed and take the small risk that they rob like 50U$, because you should not bring a lot of money with you if you don't have to. At least I do.