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[QUOTE=Redondo]Begin part of the EU has got nothing to do with it. Most girls were in the old EU before there countries became part of the EU anyhow and there is no freedom of movement yet.
Most of those girls get smuggled into the country, exploited, have there passport taken away and even if they don't they probally end up in a club that is run by Russians or Albanians.
The Russians and Albanians are also known for tracking independent girls down (telephone number, etc) and claim them.
If you are working in Germany sooner or later you become involved in organized crime. This no different in Holland (Where it's 100% legal) and probally also not in most other European countries[/QUOTE]I wonder how many nonsenses, unfortunately, you are able to say in so few words.
There is freedom of mouvement. Even for Romanians and Bulgarians (the last ones) you only have to show that you are able to pay your expenses and to return. Just the way us (older europeans country) do when we go in any "civilized" country (that's country which excempt us of visa for short term tourism) like U. S. Canada, Japan, either Argentine.
I don't want to discuss anymore about this.
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[QUOTE=Kleinberg]I wonder how many nonsenses, unfortunately, you are able to say in so few words.
There is freedom of mouvement. Even for romanians and bulgarians (the last ones) you only have to show that you are able to pay your expenses and to return. Just the way us (older europeans country) do when we go in any "civilized" country (that's country which excempt us of visa for short term tourism) like U. S. Canada, Japan, either Argentine.
I don't want to discuss anymore about this.[/QUOTE]If you want to bash somebody the least you could do is knowing your stuff.
There is only free movement if the host country opens the border and everybody can be send home. Just ask Prodi
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Kleinberg,
Thanks for giving some support.
I of course assumed that the girl does maybe 5. 6 clients a day (or fewer, but with longer sessions) and the € 150 is after the expenses I mentioned. The prices I talked about are right from a chica, and the entrance and session fees are from clubs in southern germany and the Frankfurt area.
There are cheaper possibilities in the Rhein - Ruhr area, I know about that. What I reported, however, is a large part of the market.
It is true, that there is organized crime in Germany, and it is true that girls from eastrern Europe get lured into the country under false pretense and end up in cheap brothels with their passports taken. This exists, but it is not the reality of the whole p4p scene in Germany. There are also a hell of a lot of girls who do what they do knowingly and of free will.
2 more cents from.
El Alemán
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[QUOTE=El Aleman]thanks for giving some support.
I of course assumed that the girl does maybe 5. 6 clients a day (or fewer, but with longer sessions) and the € 150 is after the expenses I mentioned. The prices I talked about are right from a chica, and the entrance and session fees are from clubs in southern germany and the Frankfurt area.
There are cheaper possibilities in the Rhein - Ruhr area, I know about that. What I reported, however, is a large part of the market.
It is true, that there is organized crime in Germany, and it is true that girls from eastrern Europe get lured into the country under false pretense and end up in cheap brothels with their passports taken. This exists, but it is not the reality of the whole p4p scene in Germany. There are also a hell of a lot of girls who do what they do knowingly and of free will.
2 more cents from.
El Alemán[/QUOTE]In the south there are also less foreigners, the fact remains that most cities in especially the north like Hannover, Berlin and Hamburg suffer from organized crime by Eeastern European criminals. There is no way to excape stuff like that, maybe that's different in lets say Bayern but it's true for most northern cities.
Girls if they advertise in lets newspapers, internet and stuff like that get honoured by a visit, beat up, have there paspoor taken and become under the influence of criminal gangs. It's common practice in Germany
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To whom it may concern (Especially Redondo)
On the first of January 2008 the "Schengen zone" will spread to: Estonia, Lithuania, Lettonia, Poland, Czeck Républik, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Malta. It have been confirmed this week.
That's added to:
Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemburg, Italia, Austria, Germany, Danemark, Sweden, Finland, Greece, Norway and Iceland.
Will allow you to drive from Tallin to Lisbon or Rovaniemi to Palermo. Without any custom control. Whazt hell have prodi to do with that!
On the first January 2009: Switzerland and Liechtenstein
So, at that time, no more need for an eastern european girl (except Romania, Bulgaria) to have a passport or ID to come visit us:) What will russian maffia do?