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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jordanf
[i]Design suites---
Girl friendly?
How is the location compare to art suites and etoile?
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Let's focus this discussion on the hotels
Art Suites
Design Suites
Etoile
What are the rates on the respective hotels mentioned above?
What is the internet access in the rooms? DSL, Dial-up?
Girl Friendly?
Location?
guys, go back and read previous pages here, before asking questions...
my research (in jul/aug) for my trip (in aug) revealed the following (may need updating):
etoile
i've stayed here before, i like it (so i'm providing
1st hand knowledge
best location for a hobbiest, dead center in action
rooms about us$30-40/night, suites slightly more
girl friendly but requires registration
maybe only 1 girl at a time? don't personally know
many here complain about uncomfortable beds - i didn't
have an issue with mine
friendly staff
can't comment re: internet access
art suites
chose them for aug/sep trip, loved the place
very friendly, totally girlfriend friendly, but rumor is this
is about to change - monitor updates here!
rooms are new and awesome
free internet in office, if you bring a computer they have
tech to provide high speed access in room
only 5 blks from vte. lopez, the street at the south border
of the cemetary - so while not dead center, it's location
is ideal if you like being a few blks from the seedy stuff,
and in the center of a truely residential area
about $60/night for a 2 rm apt
design suites
i haven't been here
read here that it's only 9 blks away from art suites, which
puts it near corrientes or santa fe, which are local shopping
and theatre areas, and only a taxi away
about same price at art, maybe $70/night?
all these places have web sites, check it out.
read here that rooms are nicer than either art or etoile
Leo is pretty much on the money. Since I've been to all three I'll try to accurately compare the three. There are lots of options in BA besides these three so don't feel like you have to get locked into just these.
One thing I'll point out is to always be discreet. Or as discreet as you can be. Whether these apartments/hotels like it or not, it's a fact that a bunch of guys are going to Buenos Aires and by coincidence we are spending quality time with some of their beautiful women.
Etoile: As everyone has pointed out, the location doesn't get much better. Excellent staff, DIPLOMATIC suites are ok but the Executive room i was in had the worst decor. My wallpaper was this almost florescent jibberish that gave me a headache to look at. I have photos so maybe I'll post a link to them so you can see what I mean. The rates are good here but there have been serious issues with some of the beds. I know several guys that couldn't sleep in those beds. (Me included). As far as phone system there is no voicemail and I didn't see any internet connection and would say 99.9% chance there is none.
Art Suites: Very, very nice. I loved my room. The staff was good (what little I dealt with them). I only talked to them when I checked in, checked out. I only checked email once from their room. Internet connections are available. I did hear from my travel agent they do NOT want hobbyist staying in their hotel. They went as far as saying that they were going to soon change the policy to only allow registered guests to come up to the rooms. I emailed them over a week ago telling them I had a great stay and were impressed with everything. My travel agent also did the same thing. They ignored both emails. They never emailed me back. I asked point blank if they were going to change their guest policy or what it even was.
In my opinion, I think they are ignoring emails asking about this because they are not sure what they are going to do. On one hand they are getting all this business (mostly Cash) from us nice Americans. On the other hand they want a family environment. I would estimate 50% of their business right now is us dudes. That's a lot of business to pass up. But they are doing a huge disservice to themselves and their customers by not addressing the question at hand. I believe sooner or later they will have to answer the question about what their official guest policy is. For now, I'm not booking there and I would seriously reconsider staying in a place where they have let it be known they don't like how/when/who you spend your free time with.
JMHO.
Design Suites: I took a look at the rooms here. Great place. Granted it's not in Recoleta but technically...either is Art Suites. It's about a 9 block walk to Art Suites. Probably closer to the main Recoleta restaurants. I walked it just to see how far it is but I'd always just jump in a taxi.
This is more like a hotel. There is a front desk, people at the front desk, guys to take up your bags, a small restaurant on the way up where you can order food. The rooms are smaller here than at Art Suites. The smaller rooms just have one room with the bed and a chair. The bigger rooms are much more spacious but I wouldn't need two rooms. It is very contemporary and warmer than the websites would make it appear. I liked this place and I'm looking forward to staying here. I haven't heard of any guys having problems with their "guests".
Guys, I will tell all of you to use your common sense. Don't act like the "ugly American". Be friendly and courteous with everyone. Don't be a tightwad. I always tipped the guys at the Etoile when girls sign in. It's not necessary to always do it but it will make them feel better. After all, look at it from their perspective. They are working hard and making almost nothing. You come to their country and get to be with their women. Be friendly with them. Give them a few bucks here and there. When I checked out at the Etoile at the end of my stay I also gave the 3 guys standing around a 100 peso note tip. I also tipped the doormen at night at Art Suites too and they were always friendly with me.
It's especially good if you plan on going back to Buenos Aires. These people will remember you and remember you're a nice guy. But be a nice guy just for the sake of being a nice guy.......
I'm out...
Saint
saint, perhaps it pays to re-submit your request on the guest policy at Art Suites by addressing the letter to both managers...Lucia the Mom and Lupa the daughter. The personal touch always helps and we need this place because as you know we were free to roam there no questions asked...yabba
Yabba,
I did that. Coincidentally, less than 12 hours after posting my post I get an email back from them. (I wonder if they check out the board...LOL). Here is what they wrote:
"Dear "Saint",
We are very happy to hear that you enjoyed your stay at Art Suites. We are sorry for the delay in responding you, it has been a very busy few weeks.
With regards to our Guest Policy, we would like you to know that it has not changed. We are a small hotel with long-term guests who consider it their "home" in Buenos Aires. Our guests value their privacy and security in a very discrete setting. Based on past experience, we find that it is difficult to keep track of guests when they bring too many unannounced visitors.
If you have any further inquiries with regards to this policy, please feel free to let us know. We hope to hear from you soon.
Best regards"
I guess their official stance is that their leaving their policy the same for now. But then they do state in it they find it difficult to keep track of guests when they bring in too many 'unannounced visitors' (i.e. chicas). If you read between the lines I think you can see she is basically saying that they are keeping their policy the same but they dont' really want to.
Like I guessed before, this is just simply too much business to pass up at a time when the economy is struggling. Kudos to them for keeping it the same. I would just ask all of you to be discreet as possible so they don't change the policy. I originally booked Design Suites for December trip but I might stay here again. I'll see how Design Suites is in November.
Good luck all.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]Yabba,
(I wonder if they [Art Suites proprietor]check out the board...LOL).
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What I wonder is whether any of our female "friends" read this board:-)
That's a funny idea indeed!!!
[blue]I'm sure that they do, as well as the club owners. That's why I'm going to start a private, invitation-only forum for BA regulars. That will allow us to post high quality info that will only be seen by a few dozen carefully selected individuals who all are all strong posters themselves. Look for a notice sometime in the middle of October.
Jackson[/blue]
OK.. I just got off the an hour long phone call with my travel agent in Buenos Aires. It turns out she met with one of the owners of Art Suites today. I guess during the meeting the owner points out that she got a nice email from me and they were getting ready to answer it today. (surprise, surprise).
Then the owner says how they were going to back track on the policy. I really think they are feeling the pinch of what they were doing. Good or bad this and other boards really influence where guys go, where they stay and who they see.
The owner goes on to tell Mayri how some guys are slobs, indiscreet and just plain rude. Guys use your heads when staying at ANY hotel or apartment. She was telling her about guys that were using their computer in their lobby and looking at sites like Platynum, Area-Vip, etc. She said that sometimes they would do this in front of her or other female workers of the hotel. She said that one time a female guest of the hotel came in and saw the guy looking at this site. Guys use your heads!! Would you look at this site in front of your wife, mother or daughter. Have some respect. There are plenty of internet cafes in the area. Don't use their private computer for this stuff. Also, she said some dudes were coming in to use the computer barefoot.
She asked my travel agent to go ahead and start booking but did ask not to book too many guys at once. Keep in mind that places like Art Suites are smaller. They only have something like 40 rooms. Can you imagine if 10+ of those 40 guys are hobbyist?
The owner called Mayri after getting my email asking for all my travel information and days I'm gonna be in Buenos Aires. Before I switch I want to see if the policy changes yet again.
Jackson, nothing for nothing (and I could be totally wrong) but it may be a good idea to remove the links to some of those hotels from the links section. I could be wrong. Also, I think you guys need to start exploring other options. If we always all stay at the same 3 hotels/apartments it could cause problems like this in the future. Lots of choices in Buenos Aires. The problem with the general active hobbyist is that he is by nature gonna stay at a place where it is chica friendly. So once one is known...everyone and their brother stays there. I plan on mixing it up whenever I can.
I do think that the odds of chicas reading this board are slim. Most of these girls can't speak any English let alone read it. Most people in Argentina can't speak/understand ANY English. I do think a private invitee section may be beneficial for the guys going down to BA often. Fortunately/unfortunately depending on how you look at it....most of the guys reading this board will never make it down there. They live their hobby lives vicariously through WSG. I'm not saying that's wrong.....
P.S. She also told Mayri that she hasn't had problems with any of the guests that she has booked for so that made me feel good. All the guys I've met have been gentlemen.
Saint: I think you are right about guys not wanting hassles. So when one guy says " I stayed in X hotel and had no problems," the next 57 guys going to BA stay in the same place. You are also right that it is good to try different places rather than overwhelming the few places mentioned on this or other sites. The fact is, the majority of hotels in BA are chica friendly.
I have spoken several times with Adriana, Webmistress for escorts-argentina, Platynum, etc. about this subject...She has told me emphatically that almost all BA hotels are chica friendly IF you register for a double rather than a single rate....
RE: Art Suites and the problems you identify. This is not a hotel for everyone.....some guys need a hotel that allows you to walk into the office area bare footed, plop down in front of a computer screen that can easily be seen by other guests and hotel emloyees and log into Platynum or other more graphic sites...please, if you are this kind of guy....stay elsewhere....
This is a great hotel for a guy with some degree of class...a guy who can be discrete.....this is not meant to criticize those who believe that since they are paying customers they don't need to be discrete....there's a hotel for you too....but it aint Art Suites....
The first time I stayed there I met members of a wedding party in town for the marriage of a relative, a couple from Ecuador who traveled regularly to Argentina to watch the opera and who owned property in Miami, an architect, etc....in short, upper middle class family oriented sophisticated people who enjoyed the idea of staying in a small botique hotel with personal attention and service....guys with bare feet and bimbos on both arms trapsing through the office don't do much for this image....
[blue]Well said, Ezy! I've stayed at Art Suites three times in the past year, including a week in the first part of July. I like the quiet neighborhood, the newness of the building, the room sizes, and the modern design. While I've never revealed my position as the owner of the WSG, I've spoken several times with the ladies who run the place, and it doesn't take a PHD to figure out quickly that discression in one's monger activities is appropriate here. I suspect that guests who carry themselves as gentlemen will always be welcome.
Jackson[/blue]
Hi!
Does anyone have expirience with Cecy (http://www.escorts-argentina.com/EscortsArgentina/Girl49.htm) ?
Is it worth inviting an escort from the above agency for a weekly trip abroad? Is the agebcy trustworthy?
Please drop me some infos.
Saint & Ezy, You are right about slobs. Last year, I and a chica went to see a Tango show, and the van that picked us up, also picked up a large group from Art Suites, they were extended family from Barcelona staying in AS because of the convenience. of the apt. vs hotel :)
Anyone stay or have experiences re:
MELIA CONFORT BS AS
http://www.buenosaires.com/hoteles/estrellas4/MeliaConfort/index.htm
Dirección / Address
Reconquista 945
(ABS1003) Capital Federal
Buenos Aires – Argentina
Tel.:(54-11) 4891-3800
It's modern, downtown, seems like a REAL four star with gym, internet, restaurant, business center, etc. It's part of the Melia Hotels, a worldwide upscale hotel chain.
It is advertising 97 pesos a night - about $25.00
re: previous post about MELIA CONFORT
I should add that the 97 pesos rate (includes taxes) is ONLY for Argentines (see below in Spanish). The non argentine rate is $50 USD (includes taxes) or about the double.
Seems like with an offer for CASH US dollars there is an opportunity to negotiate to near the Argentine rate.
Again any info on this hotel, particularly in regard to chica friendly would be appreciated.
http://www.buenosaires.com/promociones/promociones.html?action=ampliar&record_id=200&from=&importe=200
MELIA CONFORT (Hotel 4 Estrellas / NOCHES) VER FICHA
PROMOCION: Noche de Bodas Melia Confort Buenos Aires
INCLUYE:
Programa Noche de Bodas / Aniversario
Habitacion Standard (40m2) Precio por habitacion base doble, por noche. Incluye Early check in a partir de 10hs, Botella Champagne y Petit Fours,Ramo de Flores, Velitas aromaticas, desayuno buffet en el restaurant o en la habitacion sin cargo adicional, Cochera, Late check out 20hs.
PUBLICADO:: 19/03/2002
VIGENCIA: DESDE: 19/03/2002 HASTA 31/12/2002
TARIFA POR PERSONA: pesos
$ 97.40 (INCLUYE IMPUESTOS)
* ALGUNOS ESTABLECIMIENTOS TIENEN TARIFAS EN PESOS EXCLUSIVA PARA ARGENTINOS.
RECOMENDAMOS CONSULTAR MEDIANTE EL FORMULARIO
re: Buenos Aires.com promociones...
Also note that the promotion is good for honeymooners (noche de bodas)...
and you might want to check with the hotel to see if the price is per room or as the promo says por persona ( in which case the rate would be double).
some of the best hotel deals going for BA can be found on this site:
http://www.travelbuzz.net
just click on hotels, choose Buenos Aires and plug in your dates....prices are quoted in dollars and INCLUDE tax (21%)
Be sure and choose the one bed/2 person option if you plan to have guests.
Be careful though...once-in-awhile there are lower prices on other sites..
I agree about discretion. We a fickle lot. We want to use the hotel as a pleasent place to rest and even to prepare for business meetings. Then we want the flexibility to invite our lady friends. We do not want to stay in a Rio termas a few hours ok but not a week!
I have booked into Art Suites for next week and will post a report to let you know how it went.
As for other hotels, in March I stayed at the Plaza Marriott. I was in transit for one night and had not intended to ... but this adorable chica at Cutty Sark cought my attention and one thing led to another. We came back to the hotel at about 1:30 the lobby was empty and the desk clerk was very professional. Much better than some hotels in Rio. No extra charges. An incredible night - I almost missed my plane the next day!
Saint, you wrote :
"Jackson, nothing for nothing (and I could be totally wrong) but it may be a good idea to remove the links to some of those hotels from the links section. I could be wrong. Also, I think you guys need to start exploring other options. If we always all stay at the same 3 hotels/apartments it could cause problems like this in the future. Lots of choices in Buenos Aires. The problem with the general active hobbyist is that he is by nature gonna stay at a place where it is chica friendly. So once one is known...everyone and their brother stays there. I plan on mixing it up whenever I can. "
I am not a very active member (mostly reads to know where to go while I am there or there, thanks to active members like you) even if I wrote a quite complete review about Paris, with another username (can't remember), once.
What's very relative is that I doubt that the kind reading the WSG, walking barefoot to watch platynum in a lobby will change his way of thinking reading those posts (or human nature has changed !).
The second thing is the "reason to be" of the "Buenos Aires Hotels Forum" might be not reasonable (If there are strong reasons -and I personally do believe they are strong- for not talking about Buenos Aires Hotels in the forum with the same name, well ... there's a problem !).
Thanks Jackson for the great work.
troubadours,
I think you misunderstood me. I never said we shouldn't talk about hotels in this section. I only meant that in the "links" section there are only like 3 hotels listed in that section. I could be wrong but I'm guessing many guys are automatically just booking at the hotels listed. This causes a tremendously high number of bookings at some of these places with hobbyist. As much as I'd like to believe that all of you out there are distinguished gentlemen.....it simply isn't the case. It's a numbers game just like everything else in life. I'm sure a percentage of the slobs are the ones reading this board too.
Some of you don't realize just how many people read this board. I'm not just talking Americans. I'm talking about guys all over the world. I have made friends with guys from all over the world from this board. I'm not sure how many hits this board gets but I'm guessing a TON.
Water Rat...I spoke with Annette from Art Suites today for about 30 minutes. You should have no problem there, especially if you behave yourself...until you get to the room (wink)....
.....Girls from BA do have an effect on men.....
Dear Saint,
I do not know if I misunderstood you but the fact is that I agreed with what I understood ! (lol).
I believe too that many non americans read this board (btw I am french !).
Well, in order to provide new places to go (I have not been there), check out this strange hotel :
www.boquitas-pintadas.com.ar
it's a "pop" hotel (quite "glamour") with a "diana room" a "gilda room" a "chamber of roses" (even a "psychedelic room" ?!).
I do not know if this is the perfect place to practice our hobby but if some of you are looking for something different, this might be the place. I have heard it is owned by a German or a British guy.
troubadours...lol....did you read the guestbook? One guy wrote that it was great to stay in a place where not one thing was normal....sounds like our kind of place....a little removed from epicenters of mongerdom....but it might be worth a few exta pesos and 10 or so extra minutes in taxis just to stay in an exotic hotel like this....kinda like something you might associate with late60's San Franciso.....
I'll be staying at the Ulises in Recoleta during my November trip, anyone ever stayed there or have information? I'm especially interested in the penthouse suite(already reserved). Thanks in advance.
EZE :)
Send an email to Jackson - I know he's stayed at the Ulises on at least one of his trips. When we talked about it he was complimentary of the place, but I cannot remember anything more specific than that.
-Otto
I stayed at the Ulises over labor day. I also reserved the penthouse apt. Great location as it is right across the steet from the Alvear and caddycorner to club Black. While the furniture was a little old, the penthouse setup was great. The girls especially enjoyed hanging in the living room and raiding the bar. 5 nights of raiding the minibar of its champagne, vino tinto and agua really only tacked about 30 dolars on to my bill. Up a short flight of stairs are 2 bathrooms and a small but nice bedroom w/ a queen size bed. No problems with the bed although it was a little noisy from the old elevator system shaft that sounded like it was right behind the headboard.. There were no adjoining rooms to the penthouse so I was never concerned about making too much noise i.e having a Brazilian girl spend the night. The elevator was a great way to get close up with your ladies since it barely held 2 people. The best part was the mgmt. as they did not hassle the ladies one bit and the manager actually told me of the clubs in town to hit. Email Walter and he will take care of you. I already knew from this board but played dumb anyway. While they did drop the price of the penthouse per my request I could not get them lower than 154US with the vat included. I know I overpaid but thats my problem. Never made it to the free breakfast but from what I saw it did not appear to be much more than fruit and some pastry. I will be returning to BA Nov 20 and am seriously considering the Ulises. It was important that they never once asked a girl for Id and would politely call up to my room when a girl would arrive. Hope I answered some of your questions.
Slick,
Thank you for the info. My rate for late November was $90US +VAT. I couldn't get them to quote in pesos, but this is considerably better than their advertised rate. Try contacting Veronica for your reservation.
Thanks again,
EZE :)
EZE
Did you get the $90 rate on the penthouse? Obviously your bargaining skills are more refined than mine, although I can't quite say that I try real hard. $90 is what they quote me on the duplex. I'll overpay but at least I know I won't get hassled. I just rebooked for the Ulises on 11/20. I know I can get a lot cheaper but it is a proven commodity in a great location.
Yep, the $90 rate is for the penthouse. I'll be there starting 11/28, if you're still in town, lets get together for dinner and an evening of mongering. Actually, I didn't really have to barter too much, I just made it clear that there were other places I was also interested in, and it was amazing how quickly they responded and how accomodating they were.
EZE
EZE
Thanks for the invite, unfortunately I'll be leaving on the 25th. Enjoy your stay. I think you will enjoy the penthouse setup. Although not real fancy by most standards the girls all seemed real impressed. It has some nice touchs ,like the stereo system,TV mounted over the bed and full size bar. Great place to throw a little party with about 2-3 of your new found women freinds. Enjoy!
Gentlemen,
Having looked at the previous posts about apartments I'm getting mixed messages. Does anyone have a definitive answer: hotel or apartment?
I've seen (pics on the net) what looks like a good place in the Recoleta area, its u$s 25 per day. I emailed them about security, privacy and guests, and got a nice reply saying that as long as I paid in advance the place belonged to me and I could do what I liked in it as long as it did not disturb anyone else (sound fair to me). They even offered a taxi service from and to the airport as part of the deal.
I have noted that the majority of people are staying in hotels and are forever wondering about "chica friendliness": Am I missing something?
Your suggestions and comments appreciated.
Regards, Havanaman
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Havanaman
[i]Gentlemen,
Having looked at the previous posts about apartments I'm getting mixed messages. Does anyone have a definitive answer: hotel or apartment?
I wouldn't rent a BA apartment in advance until I was already on the ground and had a look at it.
The best bet is to rent a hotel for a night or two in Recoleta -I'm staying the first night at the Etoile for around $50 - then have a look around. I think you probably can get good deals when you are right there, cash in hand, particularly if business is slow.
jamesbond69,
Good advice. Thank you. I get a gut feeling that there is a lot of potential in the apartment scene from a "freedom of movement" point of view. But your advice for a BA firsttimer like me is very sound.
Regards, Havanaman
re: hotel vs. apartment
it's just mho, but i think the artsuites is the best of both worlds - an apratment setting in a residencial area within walking/taxi distance of the action, and the freedom of come and go as many guests as you want without worry (be descrete of course), with many of the amenities of a hotel - maid service, continental breakfast delivered to the room included, reception for room guests (if not the public) with an internet terminal, low cost phones, etc. now, there's no room service or pool, but i can do without that.
now the artsuites has a price about the same as the etoile, so it's not 'cheap' as an apartment, but if you're only going for 5 days vs. 2 weeks, it's my favorite.
I agree with Leo. Art Suites is great if you're staying a week or less. All things considered it's still not expensive. I just spent $200 US per night (with taxes included) on a nice luxury apartment in Mexico. $200 US will buy quite a few nights in BA.
I am in the negotiating stages of leasing an apartment in Recoleta for $300 US per month. She wants me to pay the entire year up front in US dollars. Not sure yet as I have to see pictures of the apartment. I only got a map of the location. Yeah, $3600 US is a lot but if you're going down 4+ times a year those hotels and apartment hotels add up.
I'll keep everyone posted how it goes.
Saint, leo, jamesbond69, Gentlemen
Good advice all round, thank you all. I bow to experience, you sold me. I'm going to go for Art Suites in the first instance.
As this is my first trip to BA, it has all the excitement of a true adventure. The recent posts from leo, EZE_amante, and Oldguy have really lit the furnace in me. I find I'm counting the days… I'm going to use this trip to not only get max enjoyment, but also to reconnoitre for another trip in July.
Being single I come and go as I please. My dates are 13 Dec. to 23 Dec. for BA, then I'm away to my favourite haunt Cuba (Havana et al.,) for another 9 days. I suspect that I will not get the opportunity to meet any of the BA-masters as my trip is so close to Christmas… unless I'm wrong? Anyone in the area during my dates?
This is what I love about this site: sharing information all the way.
Thanks again guys.
Regards, Havanaman
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Originally posted by leo
just back from a long weekend...
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b.player comes over we spend the early part of the day having a 'casting call' of internet girls. see, so many have their face blocked out (the pix are real - not blue asterisks - just no faces in the pix) so we had a session where we try to get like 20+ to drop by. hell, it's only ar$10 to send them home, and this way well know who we want later in the trip. turns out it’s more fun than hitting on girls in u.s. bars…
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1) to close the debate for now, artsuites is still very girl friendly. and the staff is the best - so nice… it remains my favorite place to stay.
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So you organized a chica parade at artsuites ? Great idea, how about including trannies and freaks for the next time, it costs just u$s 2 to send them back, but you, the hotel managemnt and the other guests will have a shitload of fun !
- Yes I'm being sarcastic - we've got plenty of people here calling for discrection at that place - and here you go with your casting call. You even had the face to say that they are still friendly, isn't that great news (sarcastic again).
BTW, from you report in general I get the feeling that you haven't really snatched much - may be the next time a little bit less of attention to looks, and more to attitude and other human qualities will get you more fun. I may be wrong, but I don't think you need to fly out to be hanging with the guys, buying leather and getting numbers at the disco.
I spoke with Mayri today, and even though I really liked staying at the Etoile, I'll be trying the Ulises for my next stay. On the last day of my recent trip, I met Veronica, and I looked at the penthouse suite I have reserved, and while the furniture leaves a lot to be desired, it has a lot of space, a decent stereo system, and I can entertain as many guests at the same time as I want. It is also more expensive than the Etoile ($90 US per night vs 187 pesos), and not as centrally located, but in a word, the guest policy at the Etoile sucks. I even offered to pay more through Mayri, and they wouldn't go for it. I may try Lois Suites on the trip after next, because it seems they offer the best of both worlds.
Just one man's opinion.
EZE :)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EZE_amante
[i]but in a word, the guest policy at the Etoile sucks.
EZE :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Why does it suck? It seems you had a good number of guests:-)
What is the policy exactly at the etoile - chica friendly?
You said they wouldn't allow two guests at one time. Is that the only restriction?
Yes,
My bad, the only thing I don't like is the one guest at a time policy, and they are chica friendly. More so at night than during the afternoon when there are non-hobbying guests in the lobby. I really liked the hotel, I don't mean to sound like I don't. But, I had my heart set on playing in the tub with the twins, so next time I'll rent a short stay hotel as they are readily avaiable in the area.
EZE :)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stoly
[i] ...how about including trannies and freaks for the next time, it costs just u$s 2 to send them back,
...may be the next time a little bit less of attention to looks, and more to attitude and other human qualities will get you more fun.
...I don't think you need to fly out to be hanging with the guys, buying leather and getting numbers at the disco. [/i][/QUOTE]
i guess stoly implies i owe an apology to the hobby community - i'm sorry (sarcasm again) i don't like trannies and freaks. i'm sorry, i don't like having sex with ugly girls. and gee, i never thought of considering without first meeting the escorts' or call girls' other qualities besides looks - intelligence, sense of humor, and other 'human qualities' can be determined by photo?
why do you think i don't care about gfe, once i get over my own attractiveness hurdle (don't we all have one of these?). just because i don't spend _all_ my time at the hobby vs. having fun with friends, shopping, enjoying the cities cultural and visible beauty, or the amateur party scene (eg. discos) chasing 'regular' girls doesn't mean i don't contribute valueable 'hobby data' for our community?
sorry, but i'm not happy waiting over an hour to only see a plan-b girl to show up after an internet escort who doesn't include her face in a photo proves to be nasty - i schedule my back up in advance to shorten the cycle time. and my backup backup too. if they're attractive enough to me, i'll meet them later, and they're just as happy if i make them whole (pay their taxi). it's all discussed up front on the phone, i explain i understand why they don't include their face (eg. family concerns) and they confirm they don't mind being turned back with taxi cost if i'm not happy.
you want to continue your flame then post your email and we can spare our brothers maybe...
Saint,
News on your apartment?
It occurred to me that if you close the deal and get access before my trip (13 through 23 December), perhaps we can talk business? ~ negotiate my stay at "your place"?
Please, either post your considerations here or email me: sedition2001@hotmail.com
Regards,
Havanaman
I'm bringing my laptop to BA and I have a question for the fellow mongers.
Has anyone had anything stolen from their rooms? If so, at what hotel?
Do any of the hotels have room safes or locked compartments large enough to lock up a laptop?
PS
I''m not talking about the chicas - that I can handle - but hotel employees or just thefts in general at the hotel.