Hook

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;441817]I think that the girls get $50.00 pesos of the drink as a commission but the moment that they leave with a client they lose All commissions .

Sometimes the girl will have made $900.00 in commissions for the night so when the client offers $800.00 she will refuse .

That would be a lot of Shit Drinks ! Colored Water ?

Maybe it's a flat $50.00 pesos per drink BBM .

Not 50% .

Who cares ?

As long as they bend over and grab their ankles I'm happy !

TL.[/QUOTE]I guess I should say the caveat is that I get all my information using Google Translate.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;441827]I guess I should say the caveat is that I get all my information using Google Translate.[/QUOTE]TL you are right about the 50 P per drink the chica receives. Here is what I wrote back on May 23, 2014 in the Chica Prices thread Post #107. (How do I link this directly?).

"This is what a dancer told me who has worked at both Hook and Crocodilo so you can make your own assessment on the reliability of the data.

At Hook, for each dance they perform which is 20 minutes long they receive 50 pesos. If they do a solo dance (striptease) it is 100 pesos.

Of the current chica drink prices of 250 pesos, the chica receives 50 pesos if she does not go out with you, She receives zero pesos if she goes out of the club with you.

At Crocodilo, drinks with the dancers are 500 pesos and the chica receives 100 pesos. She said that usually she also picked up 200 to 300 pesos in tips a night as a dancer. At Crocodilo some of the dancers did not go out with men.".

I asked because foolishly I was hoping to see if I could help get her out of the game. I have since decided that this was a very bad idea.

TL, I think you would be surprised that people are very curious about what people make. I work for a public entity and the local newspaper (the Republican one of course) publishes my salary and other reimbursement every year.

I am not sure how in-depth should the reports be about a specific girl....? Looks is very personal. My 9 could be your 7 and even if we all agree on the number, we may not agree on the vibe and needs in bed. Because of this I tend to report in more general terms, unless she is very good or very bad.

The setup at Hook and other clubs with mandatory drink purchase allows for 15-20 minutes of a decent conversation and unless you are a total novice and with poor communication skills, chances are you won't end up with a dud. For newbies, you invite them to sit only if you are sure about the looks. Even if you invite her because she looks good from for but you see somethings unclose that is a turn off, send her away after 1-2 minutes politely. Also, my strong advice is to ask them about the rate, time and your needs BEFORE you order the drink. The waiter will pester you. Tell him nicely that you have few questions for her and have him come back in 5 minutes. Both of them will get the message that you are not a sucker. Use that 5 minutes to figure out if she is a keeper or not. I buy her a drink ONLY if I am planning on keeping her.

Re Price negotiations: I ask for the price before I order a drink and but I only negotiate the price before the drink order only if she quotes a ridiculous price. Lets say she says 2000 peso for 1 hr, I will offer what I am willing to pay and the services I need and confirm that it is 1 hr in your hotel and 1 hr does not include transport. I do all this before I order the drink. But lets say she says 1500 and I want to offer 1300, I do not negotiate the price too much but I work out other details before the 250 peso drink. She is more willing to agree to 1300 at the end of 20 minutes because by then hopefully you have demonstrated that you are a gentleman and you know how to treat women. I hope it makes sense.

I took 5 women out of hook this week and [B]Delphina[/B] is my favorite. She is blonde (I prefer brunettes), she has a very pretty face, 5' 6", great body and super friendly. Of the several encounters this week all over BA, she is among my top three and I will likely repeat this week.

I was there on Thursday, yesterday and today in a few hours. I really like this place. Yesterday I fucked for 700 pesos which was suprising. The girl said she liked me (??). It seemed to me a pretty good fare nowadays and that girl looked like a 7-8 for me so I said yes quickly. She was argentinian but I prefer not to say her name because she asked me to say to the other girls (if they asked me today) that I had paid for her 1000 pesos. I suppose something is happening in the background but who cares...

Sex was standard (blow job without, something mandatory for me and then normal sex) but really wild. The bed moved a lot (1,5 meters) and I have scratched the floor (wooden floor). Let's see what says the owner...

I'm going there again today, if someone would like to meet there I'm from Spain but I can speak a little bit of English (not very well but enough to be in a place like this!).

Enjoy a lot the weekend!

One thing you might consider doing would be [B]reading the forum[/B].

I went out with my favorite. After a six month's absence, the sex was great. Also we resolved some issues that were rubbing me the wrong way. It turns out I had some misconceptions.

I think I learned a lesson here. Last May I was trying way too hard looking for a more girlfriend experience. With some counseling from Daddy Rulz, I realized I was just a "good customer" for her. It turns out being a "good customer" is a great place to be. Big Boss Man achieves satori for all you Deadheads and fans of "Beat" literature out there.

Chicas ask for 1500 P or $100 for an hour upfront. You see that price being paid by out-of-town Argentinos on the local boards. I tip my favorite (dinette set, bed, and telephone is the current inventory) so I do not negotiate down. I always do two hour sessions anyway. I was there with an experienced monger and he easily got the price down 20%. Of course we had a 700 P report on the Board two weeks ago. Just remember whatever you pay in the beginning is the price that is going to stick.

We went with another guy who took out a chica with excellent reviews. He was not so impressed. He gave me the "she was ok" review. I consider it fortunate that we do not all have the same tastes.

I went to Hook with Retire n Trave. I had a preset date with my favorite but we had to cast around for a chica for Retire N Trave. I start pointing out chicas I know and mentioning what I know of their reputations.

So i usually spend an hour in the club. I buy my chica a drink. She does a 20 minute dance. I buy her another drink and we leave around 1:30 or 1:45. So Retire N Trave is sticking to my schedule more or less. Retire N Trave seems to like them hot and nasty with large breasts but he wants a fair deal. One chica actually asked for $200 for one hour. She was quickly sent away. "But I am beautiful." she protested.

Meanwhile a whole raft of guys entered including an eight man Asian contingent. Quickly chicas are departing and Hook is becoming a sausage fest (maybe a 6 to 4 hombre to chica ratio). So we ask my chica who to pick someone and she chooses a young and sweet dancer. Retire N Trave writes on his tablet what he wants and Miss Young and Sweet says "no." By now I am leaving and chicas are in short supply so Retire and Trave says "ok.' Grab a taxi back to the House. Walking back into the house, I just did not feel the vibe between Retire N Trave and Miss Sweet and Innocent. Retire N Trave left town today before I woke up so I do not know the outcome. I hope it turned out well.

Meanwhile my new set up where I can play music videos worked like a charm.

I recommend getting a lap dance to Beyonce's "Partition". My chica really turned up the heat on this one even though I do not think she understands the words.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ12_E5R3qc[/URL]

Even if I failed as a wing man I had a great night.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;442521]Meanwhile a whole raft of guys entered including an eight man Asian contingent. Quickly chicas are departing and Hook is becoming a sausage fest [/QUOTE]Asian contingents are out in force at all the Triangle clubs. They are there prime time (11:30 - 1) and tend to take the young and pretty chicas.

Almost missed my favorite chica at Hook this trip because of them. After she danced, she came and sat at the bar for a few minutes. Before I could make a move she was called over to a group of Asians sitting in the corner. For future reference purposes I asked the waiter what her name was, he had to check and then went over to her and brought her to me. Not sure why but the waiter did me a big favor before she was able to settle in with them. I tipped him well after.

About 20 chicas and 15 guys. Not as good as the Madahos glory days, but very good and possibly the best I have seen Hook. Plenty to choose from, most in range 7.5 to 8.5 and maybe one or two 9s. On the guys side it was more locals/Latin than Asian. Not many gringos in the clubs.

BBM joined me at a table at the back, I must give him props for being an excellent wingman the other night and hooking me up with the coffee table chica. I watch as several chicas pass by and warmly greet BBM, leaning over to give him a hug. Meanwhile I get no attention. How does he do it? Fortunately I was able to get the attention of a nice paraguaya and we had a good time.

Remember the adage that "We don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave.".

Well the last two nights, my favorite from Hook has left things in my apartment knowing that I am leaving in a couple of days. First night it was just a bikini top which I suppose would not be a great loss. Last night actually something a greater value. Obviously expecting to see me tonight.

Dynamics of our relationship are definitely changing and she may be winning.

I have experienced far worse losses. I cost my high school track team a victory against our rival by running a horrible race when I was supposed to win.

She is a likable pretty girl. I am just going to go with it.

Last nite, hooked up with Esten and several others (was that you Big Boss that left with that gorgeous young hottie named .?) at you guessed it, Hook!. First time there; mildly impressed. On the way over the doorman at Sens let me take a peek insided at it was full of young women sitting around doing nothing. But I had a date with the boys at Hook so will have to go back to Sens some other time). After Esten and the others left Hook I was all alone in this strange place (I'm not a boliche guy), so I eyed a young slender cutie over to sit with me. We chatted, I told her would like to see her tomorrow but gave me the standard no can do line, BUT she said she would go in the back and get me her ph number; and a few minutes later she came back and sat next to me again and discretely gave me her name and cell on a tiny slip of paper, and said don't lose it. I felt like a secret agent. I wouldn't tell you her name, at least on the public board, but a hint; she is named after a popular latin song in the USA in the 90s. She quoted $1,500. Hopefully we can connect this weekend.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;442639]Remember the adage that "We don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave.".

Well the last two nights, my favorite from Hook has left things in my apartment knowing that I am leaving in a couple of days. First night it was just a bikini top which I suppose would not be a great loss. Last night actually something a greater value. Obviously expecting to see me tonight.

Dynamics of our relationship are definitely changing and she may be winning.

I have experienced far worse losses. I cost my high school track team a victory against our rival by running a horrible race when I was supposed to win.

She is a likable pretty girl. I am just going to go with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;442645]She quoted $1,500.[/QUOTE]Excuse me Cheerful, but I think you're overpaying her if you accept what she has quoted you. Again, it's your money and I have no objection whatsoever in how much you pay her. BUT, I do NOT want the girls at Hook to think that they can always get away with 1,500 per hour.

For your information, the last time I pulled a girl out of Hook was about 5 weeks ago and I paid her 1,000 for an excellent 1.5 hour session. The prevailing rate, I believe, is about 1,200 to 1,300 after negotiation. But again, this is just my advice and it's up to you to decide how much you pay. Have fun.

Joe 23.

[QUOTE=Joe23;442646]Excuse me Cheerful, but I think you're overpaying her if you accept what she has quoted you. Again, it's your money and I have no objection whatsoever in how much you pay her. BUT, I do NOT want the girls at Hook to think that they can always get away with 1,500 per hour.

For your information, the last time I pulled a girl out of Hook was about 5 weeks ago and I paid her 1,000 for an excellent 1.5 hour session. The prevailing rate, I believe, is about 1,200 to 1,300 after negotiation. But again, this is just my advice and it's up to you to decide how much you pay. Have fun.

Joe 23.[/QUOTE]What 200-300 pesos can do in BsAs now ? A short taxi ride costs 90 pesos, 2 empanadas and a bottle of orange juice cost me 150 pesos. Do you really want to talk down the chica price to 1300 from 1500, she lives outside city and has to take care of 2 babies. She has to pay a taxi friend 300 to go home. These are not the girls from Black who ask 400 USD. No offense.

[QUOTE=DickGrande;442648]What 200-300 pesos can do in BsAs now ? A short taxi ride costs 90 pesos, 2 empanadas and a bottle of orange juice cost me 150 pesos. Do you really want to talk down the chica price to 1300 from 1500, she lives outside city and has to take care of 2 babies. She has to pay a taxi friend 300 to go home. These are not the girls from Black who ask 400 USD. No offense.[/QUOTE]The answer is yes. Unless you want to be paying her 2,000 pesos in a month. This is also why I post very little information about chicks on the forum anymore. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes you want to tell her no to the 200 peso bump.

6 years ago a pack of smokes cost roughly 1.25 US and decent internet chicks cost about 50 bucks US, Hook girls were about the same, with Madahos and Black at about 100. Today a pack of smokes still costs about 1.25 US and internet chicks still cost about 50 bucks while Hook chicks want 100 bucks and chicks from Black want 300-400 US dollars. Now it's much harder to get a decent experience out of one of them because with few exceptions there is an inverse relationship between what you pay and what you get. The guys on the local board are paying them 1000, they also pay less at Hippo and Black and get better service. Nearly every one of you guys that I tell this to simply refuses to believe it, why that is escapes me, with few exceptions I forget about fucking more chicks here every year than any of you will see in 10 years.

So yes, it matters. In the long run it matters a lot. Please stop doing it. If you can't, then please go to Hippo or Black.

[QUOTE=DickGrande;442648]What 200-300 pesos can do in BsAs now ? A short taxi ride costs 90 pesos, 2 empanadas and a bottle of orange juice cost me 150 pesos. Do you really want to talk down the chica price to 1300 from 1500, she lives outside city and has to take care of 2 babies. She has to pay a taxi friend 300 to go home. These are not the girls from Black who ask 400 USD. No offense.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Newport yet, but I have heard from members that the standard take out rate there is 2,000, so I thought I was getting a deal. Normally I would have negotiated a bit for a better price, after all this is a business deal. But since she was willing to put her neck on the line to give me her number surriptetiously I felt lucky to get a connection with her.