American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;433979]Scandals, Scandals, anything to keep the Country from Growing.

Bridges are are falling apart, roads are full of holes. Congress is stopping all jobs bills that would help rebuild our infrastructure.[/QUOTE]Yes. Republicans don't have a positive agenda. So they are left with their negativity. They keep pandering to their base, but do little to expand it.

However there is an underlying intelligent logic in what they do. First, making the government appear disfunctional serves their purpose of creating just this perception (even when the disfunction is largely their own doing). Second, they want to limit the role of government, so what better way to do that (with the limited power they have) than to not pass any meaningful legislation.

Sounds like a great gig they have, but unfortunately Republicans have also become an obstacle to some important and legitimate government functions, investment in infrastructure being one excellent example. They have even become an obstacle to one of their self-professed goals: reducing the deficit. Republican politicians see themselves as defenders of a great country, but many of them are also seeking celebrity, and collectively they have become a cancer in the country. What we need is an aggressive effort to root as many of them out of office as possible in future elections.

[QUOTE=Esten;433986]Yes. Republicans don't have a positive agenda. So they are left with their negativity. They keep pandering to their base, but do little to expand it.[/QUOTE]Getting rid of ObamaCare, stopping the gutless and insane spending, securing the borders, and reforming immigration are all Republican ideas that to me are a positive agenda.

[QUOTE=Esten;433986]First, making the government appear disfunctional serves their purpose of creating just this perception...[/QUOTE]These latest scandals are all manifestations of Obama's general incompetency and appalling lack of executive management experience.

Thanks,

Jackson.

[B]Low-Info Voters Keep Obama Ratings Afloat[/B]

The scandals that have broadsided the Obama administration in recent weeks have the potential for leaving a gaping hole in the president's standing with the American people, according to a new IBD / TIPP poll.

[URL]http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-polls/060313-658586-low-info-voters-keep-obama-ratings-afloat.htm[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Punter127;433983]Just because you "exposed" yourself and didn't encounter a problem doesn't necessary mean you were safe, perhaps just lucky.

Nope I don't think that at all, I don't have unlimited taxpayer dollars to support my preparedness. But "Surveys of criminals have verified that they fear armed citizens as much as police. Increasing the number of armed responders on the street make it likely that the multi-decade decrease in violent crime will continue.

Can you guarantee that law enforcement will always be available when needed? Were they available for the lady in Oregon?

[B]Concealed Carry Permits Numbers are Soaring.[/B] "The last comprehensive survey of states indicated that more than 8 million concealed carry permits were active across the nation. The data from that report was gathered more than a year ago. It would be reasonable to expect the number of people with concealed carry permits to be over 10 million at this time. To put that number in context, there are about 800,000 full time law enforcement personnel in the United States.

We have between eight and ten million American which are already legally allowed to be armed in public. How many do you think are illegally armed? Which of those two groups concern you the most, and which one would be most affected by new gun laws? Forty nine state currently have some type of legal carry. Illinois just passed a veto proof concealed carry law in the last few days, so soon all fifty state will have some type of legal carry.

I have one more question that I truly wish you would answer, if you are so "totally relaxed" walking around unarmed why do we need more gun laws?

The bottom line is we are a Constitutional Republic and we have a Bill of Rights in which the Second Amendment guarantees that the individuals right to bear arms will not be infringed.

Long live the Republic![/QUOTE]As all previous great civilizations, kingdoms, dynasties, etc. You and I won't be around, it might take a another hundred years, who knows? A divided house will surely fall. Right now, we are seeing a live replay of the "The Last of the Mohicans", as people struggle to remain relevant in a changing society & world. There is a changing of the guard, and there great deal of shuffling on the totem pole. Perhaps you are unaware, but you are part of a grand soap opera, the silliness & stupidity of which boggles the imagination. Wait, just watch the Jerry Springer reruns, and perhaps, you will understand what I mean.

I always thought the proposed guns laws were about the types of firearms in question. Tell me if I am wrong, instead of talking about conspiracies, and some grand scheme to make us like Cuba. I am totally relaxed because it is mostly about being sensible. Something similar to, "you are what you eat".

Take care. If you are worried, just hang around me.(smile).

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989]As all previous great civilizations, kingdoms, dynasties, etc. You and I won't be around, it might take a another hundred years, who knows? A divided house will surely fall. Right now, we are seeing a live replay of the "The Last of the Mohicans", as people struggle to remain relevant in a changing society & world. There is a changing of the guard, and there great deal of shuffling on the totem pole. Perhaps you are unaware, but you are part of a grand soap opera, the silliness & stupidity of which boggles the imagination. Wait, just watch the Jerry Springer reruns, and perhaps, you will understand what I mean.[/QUOTE]I'm so glad we have you God like elitist to save us from our "silliness & stupidity". What would we do without you?

History is full of those who tried the "changing of the guard" thing, Adolf Hitler, Karl Marx, and Joseph Stalin just to name a few.

I didn't watch Jerry Springer the first time around let alone reruns, but I'm pretty sure you've seen every episode multiple times while sucking on a big glass of fool-aid. Do all progressives get their so called "facts" from TV shows and movies?

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989]I always thought the proposed guns laws were about the types of firearms in question. Tell me if I am wrong, instead of talking about conspiracies, and some grand scheme to make us like Cuba. I am totally relaxed because it is mostly about being sensible. Something similar to, "you are what you eat".[/QUOTE]OK here you go, [B]You are wrong![/B] Even if it was just about the types of guns, I'm opposed to it, we don't need anymore gun laws. Turn Jerry Springer off, put the fool-aid down and read what people like Feinstein and Bloomberg have openly stated as their goals, dig below the surface and don't be so naive. If nothing else go back and read the forum, I've post tons of statistics, graphs, poll results, and quotes to support my position. You haven't answered any of my questions or offered anything to support your theories (save Jerry Springer). I'm quite surprised that you would lower yourself to old progressive tactic of attacking the messenger. But it's a common move for progressives who don't have any facts to back up their position.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989]If you are worried, just hang around me.(smile).[/QUOTE]Now that you've shown your true colors that's not likely to happen, and I'm not smiling.

[QUOTE=Punter127;433990]I'm so glad we have you God like elitist to save us from our "silliness & stupidity". What would we do without you?

History is full of those who tried the "changing of the guard" thing, Adolf Hitler, Karl Marx, and Joseph Stalin just to name a few.

I didn't watch Jerry Springer the first time around let alone reruns, but I'm pretty sure you've seen every episode multiple times while sucking on a big glass of fool-aid. Do all progressives get their so called "facts" from TV shows and movies?

OK here you go, [B]You are wrong![/B] Even if it was just about the types of guns, I'm opposed to it, we don't need anymore gun laws. Turn Jerry Springer off, put the fool-aid down and read what people like Feinstein and Bloomberg have openly stated as their goals, dig below the surface and don't be so naive. If nothing else go back and read the forum, I've post tons of statistics, graphs, poll results, and quotes to support my position. You haven't answered any of my questions or offered anything to support your theories (save Jerry Springer). I'm quite surprised that you would lower yourself to old progressive tactic of attacking the messenger. But it's a common move for progressives who don't have any facts to back up their position.

Now that you've shown your true colors that's not likely to happen, and I'm not smiling.[/QUOTE]My opinion is not really important. More crucial for me, is that I tried to get along with everybody the best I can. The golden rule, lest you forget is "do unto others what you you wish they do unto you". And I don't have time to be angry all the time especially about the 2nd amendment. Nobody is stepping on my toes. My balls are not restricted, and I pretty much do whatever I want to do everyday. Nobody is breathing down my neck.

I am sorry you feel that I was attacking you. You expressed your case, and I did mine. That's all there is to it.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989]America will self destruct...[/QUOTE]...if the liberals are successful.

[QUOTE=Jackson;433994]...if the liberals are successful.[/QUOTE]Extreme positions on both sides of aisle are destroying America. But the most important issue at hand today, is that America's moral tank is now at near empty.

[QUOTE=Jackson;433987]Getting rid of ObamaCare, stopping the gutless and insane spending, securing the borders, and reforming immigration are all Republican ideas that to me are a positive agenda.

These latest scandals are all manifestations of Obama's general incompetency and appalling lack of executive management experience.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, while Republicans do have a few good ideas, they are akin to a small odor absorber placed in a packed dining hall after a meal of franks and beans. It's a good thing, but simply overwhelmed by a vast stench.

The so-called and largely phony 'scandals' are mere manifestations of Republican desperation and gullability. Right wing politicians and pundits pump out their conspiracy theories one after another, captivating their base like a cat is captivated with catnip. In this state, many are unable to apply critical thinking to get to the truth. Top Republican strategists understand very well how to manipulate their base, and anyone who doubts this is simply naive.

As far as leadership you need look no further than Obama. He's the guy in DC willing to compromise and work with both parties. You don't run a company in a constant state of 'my way or the highway', especially when you're losing money. Congressional Republicans could learn a few things from Obama, and until they do, their good ideas will largely remain abstractions, and our debt will continue to grow.

Republicans aren't talking much about the economy these days. That's because it keeps improving. The latest Gallup Job Creation Index increased to 22 in May, the highest score for any month since April 2008. This means more workers reported their employers are hiring, and fewer see people being let go. How could this be happening as we edge closer to full implementation of the Affordable Care Act ?

U.S. Job Creation Best in Five Years
[URL]http://www.gallup.com/poll/162893/job-creation-best-five-years.aspx[/URL]

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I don't want to belabor this issue but;.

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I am sorry you feel that I was attacking you. You expressed your case, and I did mine. That's all there is to it.[/QUOTE]Really, you were just stating your case when you penned this?

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989] Perhaps you are unaware, but you are part of a grand soap opera, the silliness & stupidity of which boggles the imagination. Wait, just watch the Jerry Springer reruns, and perhaps, you will understand what I mean.[/QUOTE]When you start equating supporters of personal liberty with the Jerry Springer show you are well past expressing your case.

Then to add insult to injury you added this little snide remark.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;433989]instead of talking about conspiracies, and some grand scheme to make us like Cuba.[/QUOTE]I only see two ways to label your remarks, personal insult / attack or gibberish.

I'm very surprised to see you lower yourself to such tactics, I would have expected it from some others, but not you..

[QUOTE=Punter127;434004]I don't want to belabor this issue but;.

Really, you were just stating your case when you penned this?

When you start equating supporters of personal liberty with the Jerry Springer show you are well past expressing your case.

Then to add insult to injury you added this little snide remark.

I only see two ways to label your remarks, personal insult / attack or gibberish.

I'm very surprised to see you lower yourself to such tactics, I would have expected it from some others, but not you..[/QUOTE]

What I have been trying to say, is that we as a society (especially government) is as dysfunctional as ever we are going to be. Not too much unlike the participants of the Jerry Springer Show. Would you be mollify if I had used "we" instead of "you"? As in the same swamp or pigpen. Other than that, I stand by my remarks.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;434005]What I have been trying to say, is that we as a society (especially government) is as dysfunctional as ever we are going to be. Not too much unlike the participants of the Jerry Springer Show. Would you be mollify if I had used "we" instead of "you"? As in the same swamp or pigpen. Other than that, I stand by my remarks.[/QUOTE]Saying "we" instead "you" makes all the difference in the world. Had you done that I probably would have agreed with your statement.

[QUOTE=Punter127;434006]Saying "we" instead "you" makes all the difference in the world. Had you done that I probably would have agreed with your statement.[/QUOTE]Easy as pie, just a slight a misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;434007]Easy as pie, just a slight a misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]I'm glad it was a misunderstanding, enough said.