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[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;442649]The answer is yes. Unless you want to be paying her 2,000 pesos in a month. This is also why I post very little information about chicks on the forum anymore. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes you want to tell her no to the 200 peso bump.

6 years ago a pack of smokes cost roughly 1.25 US and decent internet chicks cost about 50 bucks US, Hook girls were about the same, with Madahos and Black at about 100. Today a pack of smokes still costs about 1.25 US and internet chicks still cost about 50 bucks while Hook chicks want 100 bucks and chicks from Black want 300-400 US dollars. Now it's much harder to get a decent experience out of one of them because with few exceptions there is an inverse relationship between what you pay and what you get. The guys on the local board are paying them 1000, they also pay less at Hippo and Black and get better service. Nearly every one of you guys that I tell this to simply refuses to believe it, why that is escapes me, with few exceptions I forget about fucking more chicks here every year than any of you will see in 10 years.

So yes, it matters. In the long run it matters a lot. Please stop doing it. If you can't, then please go to Hippo or Black.[/QUOTE]Well I agree that paying 2000 won't guarantee the service is better than paying 1500. The experience is different now. Years ago, Argentina was.

In crisis and many people were in shock, those non pro girls have been all gone now. Things are different. But compared to other places, BA is.

Still good, you need to make more efforts to find.

[QUOTE=DickGrande;442648]What 200-300 pesos can do in BsAs now ? A short taxi ride costs 90 pesos, 2 empanadas and a bottle of orange juice cost me 150 pesos. Do you really want to talk down the chica price to 1300 from 1500, she lives outside city and has to take care of 2 babies. She has to pay a taxi friend 300 to go home. These are not the girls from Black who ask 400 USD. No offense.[/QUOTE]What parallel universe are you posting from? A short taxi ride 90 pesos? I can go from Palermo to San Telmo for that. My idea of a short taxi ride is San Telmo to Retiro and that's about 40.

150 for 2 empanadas and OJ? I just bought a liter of Citric esprimido OJ for 27 pesos and the place on the corner has empanadas for 13 pesos. What, did you buy 5 liters of OJ?

And what, because the chica has two babies you're supposed to not bargain the price down? And you really think because she asks 300 for a taxi she's actually going to take a taxi?

I want to talk her down to 800 and if I can't get that at Hook I'll go next door to Catto's. Hook, 1000, take it or leave it.

[QUOTE=RockinBob;442652]What parallel universe are you posting from? A short taxi ride 90 pesos? I can go from Palermo to San Telmo for that. My idea of a short taxi ride is San Telmo to Retiro and that's about 40.

150 for 2 empanadas and OJ? I just bought a liter of Citric esprimido OJ for 27 pesos and the place on the corner has empanadas for 13 pesos. What, did you buy 5 liters of OJ?

And what, because the chica has two babies you're supposed to not bargain the price down? And you really think because she asks 300 for a taxi she's actually going to take a taxi?

I want to talk her down to 800 and if I can't get that at Hook I'll go next door to Catto's. Hook, 1000, take it or leave it.[/QUOTE]Who wants to pay more, if they do not have to ? The merchandise is not the same like iphone, and the negotiation skills are different from one to another, and the taste for talent is radically different for each individual, and people who get laid all the time feel different from people who just landed and horny, it's impossible to set an uniform number for everyone, that's why there is no such a number. It's good for the new comers to have a reference number, that's all you can do.

[QUOTE=DickGrande;442653] people who get laid all the time feel different from people who just landed and horny.[/QUOTE]You said it!

i live here and get laid at will.

The most expensive sex I had in 2014 in BA, was 800 pesos for 1 hour and 100 for taxi.

I went to Hook expecting to see my regular as she left something for me to keep on Thursday night. It gets past 1:00 AM and my regular is a no show.

I start working on another girl to take out. Two nights left, sperm management is no longer an issue. Close the deal and I am riding home to the casa when I get a Whatsapp message. " I am late please wait for me." I was told that Hook has turned off its WiFi system because the girls were spending too much time on their phones which is why I did not get the message. Thought about giving the chica I was with 500 P and returning to Hook for my favorite but I am glad I did not. Hook can be hit or miss but the chica I took was a little dynamo in the sack.

I woke up this morning with a message from my favorite saying that everything is good and that we will meet tonight.

I have a tendency to want to speculate. She was meeting with the other regular she told me she has. Babysitting issues as there was an aunt that died this week and it is her family that takes care of her daughter. Family gathering to celebrate life of the aunt. She has a second job and maybe she overslept from too much work. Just not feeling well. But really the response should be is that I like you and everything that I do for you is unconditional. Whatever comes back your way comes back. If enough is not coming back then I should just move on. It is not like I have never been dumped by a girl before.

I was with a couple of guys at the Burger Bar the other day and had the thought if you really want an Argentinean girlfriend, then you should limit yourself to speaking only with girls that wear name badges. Of course, they will be much more expensive then Hook dancers.

I hope my favorite makes it to Hook tonight from the provinces. I knew the storm was coming which was why I wanted to settle everything Friday night. Tonight is a good night to stay home and read my novel. We Californians melt in the rain.

I was there yesterday. There was circa 10 Girls. There wond have 150 peso for a normal dring. I leave directly without any Drink.

I observed two or three times on my last trip that the guy - girl ratio actually became greater than one during peak times ( 12:30 to 2:00 AM). One night the manager actually asked the girl I was taking out to return early or so she told me. It could be because other places like Madahos, Madonna and Black have shut down recently.

What follows is just some speculation that came to me while flying 23 hours back to Los Angeles:

Bar is now very popular with Asian groups and there seems to be one guy who who acts as tour leader or at least you see him there many nights. He tends to work with the waiters to organize tables.

Most of the AP Guys I meet are not really bar guys or they do not spend much time in bars.. The vast majority of AP guys are hard-working, successful with above average intelligence.

If this is you, go into the bar and buy the first girl that even slightly catches your eye a drink. You do not have to take her out. After the 10 to 15 minutes you spend with her, I think you will be slightly more relaxed and you will be able to spot the one that you really want. Some the girls will even help you find the girl you want after they make their own pitch of course. They girls do make money having a drink with you. If you do not take some early action the girls start ignoring you. I realize now I have added $25 to your bill but there are cheaper bars.

Also people have private messaged me for girl's contact numbers. I am not going to give that information up because I believe it hurts the girls income in the long run. There is one total fox in Hook that is currently banned from dancing because she violated one of Hook's rules. I believe it is easier to attract guys when she dances. Now she has to work the floor. I think she will be back on the pole before too long because Hook needs more girls. Hook has a computer system. I believe they know exactly how much money a girl is producing for them.

Although I live in BA but never do night mongering. I am kinda addicted to day mongering!

Benefits of day mongering - No alcohol, can see what you are fucking, almost half the prices and and no need to be awake all night.

So had some business clients visiting me from Europe so felt obliged to show them around...( First stop 'Hook').

Was literally packed with people at 1230 on a wednesday morning about 20 chicas and about 40 men. Some hot chicas as well. The interesting thing to note was that chicas disappeared so fast..They were being taken really fast!!!!!

I never got to ask girls prices and by the time I left, like at 2 am..almost all the girls were gone and the bar was full of men!!!

My beers were expensive. The 330 ml strella beer was costing 200 pesos.

The atmosphere of the bar..I personaly felt was kind of "pressuring" and NOT relaxed at all.

Landed there about midnight, January 13th. First engaged a brunette about 170 cm tall, probably mid-20's, black eyes, rather wide hips, natural boobs and very pretty, elegant face. Battle-name: Mia (but she said not out of Mia Wallace of Pulp Fiction fame). Has strong personality, quite focused on her business and pretends to be "classy". Quoted AR $ 2. 000 and that put her out of my table without getting into the details of what the service included.

I was then approached by a Juliana a blond (dyed) Paraguayan, short hair, late 30's, not gorgeous, but fuckable. Shows a lot of interest in getting her business. I suggested a threesome and she produced Belen, an Argentine, blond (of course, dyed as well), long hair, very good body that I had seen on the pole before, not very pretty face. We settled for AR $ 1. 200 for each and left.

As is often the case, less than perfect beauties and lower than top prices end up delivering the best service and this was a case in point. First a very complete lesbian show and then enthousiastic attention to me including stereo BBBJ and CIMs.

My drink (gin-cola): AR $ 150. Chica drink: AR $ 250 each.

January 14th I tried to repeat and failed.

Took out two Argentines: Melisa (brunette, about 160 cm, long hair, could have used orthodoncy at a younger age, about 25 why / o) and Sheila (dyed blond, about 155 cm, long hair combed backwards, made boobs nice ass). Both do the pole. AR $ 1. 200 each.

Was a waste of money and time. Neither had any intention of providing a good service, talked too much between themselves about housekeeping issues, suggested to smoke pot, had no energy or imagination in bed.

IMHO, to be avoided.

[QUOTE=Local;443393]
As is often the case, less than perfect beauties and lower than top prices end up delivering the best service and this was a case in point. [/QUOTE]While 1200 P may not be the "top" price for a Hook chica, you still paid too much.

Tres3.

[QUOTE=Tres3;443395]While 1200 P may not be the "top" price for a Hook chica, you still paid too much.

Tres3.[/QUOTE]$1,200 p out of Hook is darn near a bargain. But still doesn't guarantee performance.

[QUOTE=Local;443394]January 14th I tried to repeat and failed.

Took out two Argentines: Melisa (brunette, about 160 cm, long hair, could have used orthodoncy at a younger age, about 25 why / o) and Sheila (dyed blond, about 155 cm, long hair combed backwards, made boobs nice ass). Both do the pole. AR $ 1. 200 each.

Was a waste of money and time. Neither had any intention of providing a good service, talked too much between themselves about housekeeping issues, suggested to smoke pot, had no energy or imagination in bed.

IMHO, to be avoided.[/QUOTE]I've done trios with these two as well and always had a really good time. None of the twisted sick perverted stuff that I kind of like, but solid energetic performance. Stranger always tells new guys "Don't look for the one you're into, look for the one that's into you. " For some odd reason I've always hit it off well with the blond you mentioned. Don't know why, just always have. I fucked up and allowed her to get complacent in the arrangement so I had to stop seeing her for awhile and when she asked why I said "because you started fucking me like a wife who doesn't like her husband. " Recently I added her back in the mix and it's good solid unrushed service again. Not great but solid.

Not meaning to criticize nor do I doubt your report, I can see both of them doing exactly what you said. Just commentary on how YMMV affects us all.

I would like to know more about the other trio you did if you care to PM me, Daddy is always interested in genuine carpet munchers, that like the fellas as well.

Thanks for the reports.

DR.

A post on the local board linked to AP reported that the girl named Cindy has returned to the club. Cindy is the most popular girl in the club. Brenda once told me that Cindy goes out every night without fail. I have never had the opportunity myself. Bad news, according to the post, is that being popular Cindy will not discount the 1500 P to 1300 P (or whatever is the exchange rate is for $100 dollars at Hook) most Hook girls will accept without blinking. My pricing information is from November 2014. I am not on the ground now. The report also stated that the ex-Hippo dancers now at Hook are asking for 2000 P.