2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425949]If it is Controlled.

A Profit Limit?

Okay, If It does not Fuck the working Class!

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The Movie 1216, was Incorrect, Watch It.

What a bunch of Fucking Lies.

Are You still that Dumb?[/QUOTE]What the fuck are you trying to say?

In the mean time...

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]8.3% unemployment

$3.80 per gallon gas

$1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits

$16,000,000,000,000 national debt

$51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson;425957]$51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

[/QUOTE]

That's $153,000 in national debt owed by each taxpayer. Add to that the present value of unfunded medicare and social security liabilities and you get $500,000 to $1.2 million per taxpayer, depending on what assumptions you make.

The last I've heard is that Mitt Romney still hasnt disclosed his tax returns for the last 12 years. His father wasnt afraid to do that back in the sixties. But I think Mitt doesn't want the people to find out about his tax shelters and off-shore havens that he's got his money socked away in. My guess is that his tax rate is even lower than 14% in some of those years. It would be kind of embarrassing for him to have to explain how he pays so little taxes compared to the middle class.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;425961]The last I've heard is that Mitt Romney still hasnt disclosed his tax returns for the last 12 years. His father wasnt afraid to do that back in the sixties. But I think Mitt doesn't want the people to find out about his tax shelters and off-shore havens that he's got his money socked away in. My guess is that his tax rate is even lower than 14% in some of those years. It would be kind of embarrassing for him to have to explain how he pays so little taxes compared to the middle class.[/QUOTE]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Nobody gives a fuck about Mitt Romney's tax returns EXCEPT liberals who fantasize about endlessly parsing every line item therein. Romney is too smart to fall for this trap.

Obama's Internal Revenue Service has reviewed, dissected and approved Romney's tax returns. That should be enough for any rational person to accept.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425966]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Nobody gives a fuck about Mitt Romney's tax returns EXCEPT liberals who fantasize about endlessly parsing every line item therein. Romney is too smart to fall for this trap.

Obama's Internal Revenue Service has reviewed, dissected and approved Romney's tax returns. That should be enough for any rational person to accept.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]On July 7, 2008 the average price in the US for a gallon of regular gas was $4. 11. Who was the president at that time?

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;425967]On July 7, 2008 the average price in the US for a gallon of regular gas was $4. 11. Who was the president at that time?[/QUOTE]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about the price of gas 4 years ago.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

I'm going to get a kick in 2014 when the Romney Care Health Plan (based on his Massachuetts idea) opps Obama Care Health Plan starts in full. Thats when everybody has to have a health plan or pay a fine. The crying and bellyaching from the right-wingers will be deafening. I'll just be laughing.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425966]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

8. 3% unemployment.

$3. 80 per gallon gas.

$1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget decificts.

$16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

$51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]HEAR YE, HEAR YE!

To all you misguided republicans and others who need to read the truth about willard the rat:

I present mandatory reading to bring you to your senses (his real name is willard mitt rommney)

A dear trusted dem friend sent me an article to read from the Rolling Stone website POLITICS section.

These articles astounded me and showed again how adept the press is at keeping real news from the

Public. PLEASE READ THESE ARTICLES! And tell me if you still believe in the mitt rat. And tell.

Me why this damming evidence has never been revealed.

The New York Times could run this and shut the mitt rat machine down. Wait until you read who are

His 10 wealthiest contributors are and how they will benefit from the mitt rat's election.

You will see if he wins, we the common serfs will pay and pay and lose our health and rights to the wealthy.

He is a george Bush clone but worse. He never served in the military and used influence to avoid.

Miitary service.

He very shrewdly bilked the govt into bailing out his bain capital and the taxpayers paid again.

He pulled off several stunts with bailouts aided by our lame govt and enriched bain capital.

With your tax dollars.

To conclude, some of you know me and that I'm quite apolitical but these on-line articles in THE ROLLING STONE.

In the POLITICS section made so pissed, I had to voice a warning to all who trust his rat.

My new stance is if you have not read these articles, I will not discuss politics with you. PERIOD.

And we can stay friends.

Jackpot.

PS. Can I post the rolling stone website in reference to this article or is that forbidden?

[QUOTE=BayBoy;425961]The last I've heard is that Mitt Romney still hasnt disclosed his tax returns for the last 12 years. His father wasnt afraid to do that back in the sixties. But I think Mitt doesn't want the people to find out about his tax shelters and off-shore havens that he's got his money socked away in. My guess is that his tax rate is even lower than 14% in some of those years. It would be kind of embarrassing for him to have to explain how he pays so little taxes compared to the middle class.[/QUOTE]Don't you think that Romney's tax returns have been audited in the last 10 years? I would be really astonished if he hasn't. If he hasn't been audited, the IRS must think he is legal.

What I want to know is what about President Obama's College Transcripts Why doesn't he release them? He went to Columbia for 2 years and no body remembers him. Who paid for his education? Columbia and Harvard are not cheap.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;425969]I'm going to get a kick in 2014 when the Romney Care Health Plan (based on his Massachuetts idea) opps Obama Care Health Plan starts in full. Thats when everybody has to have a health plan or pay a fine. The crying and bellyaching from the right-wingers will be deafening. I'll just be laughing.[/QUOTE]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about the Massachusetts health care law, which BTW was passed into law by the Massachusetts legislature with 99% of house reps and 100% of the state senators supporting the bill.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

Greetings mongers,

Please read the online Rolling Stone political section for a real.

Expose of Mitt Rommney and his backers. www.rollingstone.com/political

This is MANDATORY reading for you who want to know the truths and motivations.

Of the Rommney campaign.

I am an apolitical animal but these articles made me speak out to expose.

The suppressed truth that all Republicans and Democrats should be aware of.

Jackpot.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425966]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Nobody gives a fuck about Mitt Romney's tax returns EXCEPT liberals who fantasize about endlessly parsing every line item therein. Romney is too smart to fall for this trap.

Obama's Internal Revenue Service has reviewed, dissected and approved Romney's tax returns. That should be enough for any rational person to accept.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425973]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About the Massachusetts health care law, which BTW was passed into law by the Massachusetts legislature with 99% of house reps and 100% of the state senators supporting the bill.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]That Massachetts Health Care law was the great guvenor's idea that he came up with. Now he pretends that he didn't want to have anything to do with the law. The Supreme Court got it right, everybody must pay and get on board.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;425975]That Massachetts Health Care law was the great guvenor's idea that he came up with. Now he pretends that he didn't want to have anything to do with the law. The Supreme Court got it right, everybody must pay and get on board.[/QUOTE]There is a vast difference between approving or not caring what any individual state chooses to pass vs. Being forced by the Federal government under one broad umbrella to no longer have an option, and that in fact the very option of not doing something is now considered an 'act' the government can now regulate.

Whether anyone approves of the Massachusetts health care reform or not, you have two choices. Don't go along with it as is your right to not participate (until Obamacare changes that of course) , participate, or move out of the state and in effect vote with your feet.

That has how states have always lost / won the final debate who has a "better" system.

Comparing Romney's Massachusetts and Obamacare is complete apples vs oranges. It's one state you can opt out of vs a vast federal umbrella you have no choice - a penalty that by the way scales UP with your income as a screwed up percentage rather than a flat penalty fee.

And when referencing the Supreme Court decision, reference it all, not just the handy part you like.

Yes. By 5:4 they ruled the individual mandate stays in as a tax. E. G. You, I, everyone. Has to buy mandated health care coverage by 2014 when that provision kicks in. Or be penalized, as a "tax" on non-participation now being ruled a "taxable" act. Where that ends we can argue later. E. G. You didn't get a college degree. Please pay a tax sir.

However, this covers only the penalty of you and me deciding to participate or not. By 7:2 vote, the justices agreed that states could not be forced to expand Medicaid the millions upon millions of people they'd now need to cover in order to actually extend health coverage so that people could "participate" as the individual mandate law now requires.

Or nuts and bolts version. We have to buy healthcare by force, but who's going to sell it / provide it? Obama assumed the unlimited funds states had would cover it. Or he didn't think. Who knows. Because the by large majority. 7 of 9 justices voted to strike down and ruled unconstitutional the forced expansion of Medicaid by the federal government threatening to withhold matching federal funds for Medicaid if the states did not expand. Who pays for this gargantuan expansion is conveniently ill defined because at most the fed funds only partiall helps, not fully funds the Medicaid liability of even today's enrollment much less the enormous expansion now mandated.

Unfunded mandates are a bizarre federal government intrusion upon states rights in my opinion, but no doubt to you it must be "fair" because everyone has to "do their share".

Also by magic of course will be the continued pipeline of medical practitioners who will cheerfully accept a zero win game to provide health services for the estimated 32 million growth in enrollment with socialist price controls on reimbursement that will eventually push most doctors out of serving state and federal funded patients. At leat those that can do basic math and I'd safely suggest the vast majority can.

That will also dry up as an option when private health insurers can no longer operate with basic math principles they do today. Take in more premiums that they pay out. Since Obamacare now forces all prior conditions covered, and is making the fed a vast single payer system, eventually the private insurers will go bankrupt. As designed, and cheered on by the ignorant.

Then what? Three words. Health care rationing.

You will be a number. Your net positive future "contribution" will be a number. Grandma WILL be allowed to die because health care must be rationed against both the continually shrinking services supply (eg doctors and high-q nurses) and the funding available.

The conservatives like to make people think that the world is coming to an end with this Affordable Care Act. That America will fall into a vast 'socialist' pit and we'll never survive as a country. Well, they said that about social security, medicare, medicaid and all other social programs for the people. I'd like to point out that people do have a choice: you can move to another country I. E. Argentina (oh they have a socialized medical plan already) or Mexico etc. In fact ALL countries in the western world and developing world have socialized health plans that cover all their people. Those states who deny medicaid to their people will be under huge pressure from the electorate to give medical coverage to its people. After all there will be elections about that.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425973]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About the Massachusetts health care law, which BTW was passed into law by the Massachusetts legislature with 99% of house reps and 100% of the state senators supporting the bill.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]The budget deficit was $438 Billion in FY 2008. Who was the president in FY 2008, which by the way, almost entirely took place BEFORE the economic crash.

[QUOTE=Jackson;425966]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Nobody gives a fuck about Mitt Romney's tax returns EXCEPT liberals who fantasize about endlessly parsing every line item therein. Romney is too smart to fall for this trap.[/QUOTE]

Polls show most Americans, including [b]most independents[/b], think Romney should release his tax returns. This is standard for anyone running for President. Why should Romney get an exemption ? What the fuck is the guy hiding ?

[QUOTE]Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen
[/QUOTE]

You forgot something: [b]And what's responsible for these numbers ?[/b]

It's a 'gift' from Republicans just as much as from Democrats. Too bad John Boehner walked away from the table when they had a chance to cut $4 Trillion last year.

[QUOTE=Mpexy;425978]You will be a number. Your net positive future "contribution" will be a number. Grandma WILL be allowed to die because health care must be rationed against both the continually shrinking services supply (eg doctors and high-q nurses) and the funding available.[/QUOTE]Guess what. You're already a number. Your healthcare is already rationed. I liked your last post, but the Grandma talk makes you sound like Sarah Palin.

Personally, I don't like the idea of being denied coverage if I have a pre-existing condition. Or going bankrupt if I get sick. And I really don't like the idea of having my Medicare RATIONED through a Romney / Ryan voucher program.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;425984]The budget deficit was $438 Billion in FY 2008. Who was the president in FY 2008, which by the way, almost entirely took place BEFORE the economic crash.[/QUOTE]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about the federal budget deficit 4 years ago under a different administration.

This election is about the federal budget deficit today under the Obama Administration.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

Very good first night. San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro gave a great speech, he countered some of the Republican themes head on:

[QUOTE]"We know that in our free market economy some will prosper more than others. What we don't accept is the idea that some folks won't even get a chance. And the thing is, Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are perfectly comfortable with that America. In fact, that's exactly what they're promising us."[/QUOTE]

Clinton is on tomorrow. You guys should tune in, to get another perspective on Democratic views. Not just the programming from the right wing media, where they repeat simple messages over and over, without any critical thinking....

[QUOTE=Sidney;425999]I have scheduled cataract surgery, Oct 7. Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15! The 'Death Panel'![/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us why Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15 rather than politicizing it. Sarah Palin is long gone, a victim of her own uselessness. When she pose for Playboy, then I will acknowlege her assets.

There was not any job growth for twelve months before Obama was in office.

In other words the Job Losses started with the Republican President. The Job Creators were not hiring, just laying off workers.

4 million jobs have been created since then.

The Jobs Bill would have created 3 million more Jobs.

But the Republican Congress voted it down.

The Job Creators are waiting for more tax cuts.

Hypocrites.

P.S.
There are 3 millions jobs going unfilled, because of our education system. Our people are not qualified.
And the Republicans want to cut teachers and schools again. Sounds like they are making our country a Third World Country for Cheaper Workers.

"You Can't Handle The Truth!"

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425997]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About the federal budget deficit 4 years ago under a different administration.

This election is about the federal budget deficit today under the Obama Administration.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Yes, Obama caused all of these in less than 4 years.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425973]Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;426007]Yes, Obama caused all of these in less than 4 years.[/QUOTE]Let's not forget 2 wars started by the Republican's and funded by the US tax payers. We are talking about trillions of dollars, here.

Now, Romney and the neo-cons, including Senator McCain, are posturing to enter additional conflicts & WARS with countries like Iran and Syria.

Where would that money come from?

These war mongers are completely silent about that.

Obama's acceptance speech has been moved from a 73, 000 seat stadium to a 500 seat closet. Obama says it is because of weather concerns. The mayor of Charlotte says it is because there are not more than 500 Obama supporters in all of north carolina and these 500 Obama supporters are all long term residents of mental institutions.

We are approaching the end times. The sun does not shine, rain does not fall, crops wither, people go hungry, unemployment soars, crime is everpresent and overlooking all is darth vader aka Barrak Obama. A sinister creature from another continent.

[QUOTE=El Alamo;426028]We are approaching the end times. The sun does not shine, rain does not fall, crops wither, people go hungry, unemployment soars, crime is everpresent and overlooking all is darth vader aka Barrak Obama. A sinister creature from another continent.[/QUOTE]Just put on your raincoat, and go to the bus shelter. Put a empty giant 7-11 cup in front of you and a hopeful face, you will be alright! Fresh air, open space, a steady stream of visitors, no stress, man!

I know somewhat know about your goals.

Profit. Give me some insider Help.

I will check how many Republicans voted with the Demos on your time frame.

But Bush went to War Without the UN's Help. WMDs? And Cried later that he needed them.

I know that you are not in complete agreement with the Republican Party.

They do not your same your Social Interests.

Republicans plans do not agree with Co-Operation within the Parties.

Check Bill Clinton's SPEECH, it is Not Too Be Missed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5knEXDsrL4

[url]http://www.policymic.com/articles/14181/dnc-schedule-of-speakers-live-bill-clinton-speech-time-video-of-all-wednesday-speeches[/url]

Unless you are really dumb and can't Read.

Check it on YouTube.

I listened to the Republicans in Tampa, they left me with Ice Sickles in my Heart.

I Cried during a lot of the Demo's Speeches.
Especially the Woman War Iraq War Vets speech, that serviced for You and Me that Lost Her Legs for Our Country.

The Republicans did not mention Our Vets or their Wars, that were lies?

But Bill said was We Need Co-Operation between the All Parties, not just the Republicans, Indies, Etc. included.
Which the Republicans have not Done.


[QUOTE=Sidney; 426018]A little history lesson.

A lot of people don't care for Bush but here is the story.

This tells the story, why Bush appeared so bad at the end of his term.

Don't just skim over this, it is not very long, read it slowly and let it sink in. If in doubt, check it out!

The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007 the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:

January 3rd. 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

The DOW Jones closed at 12, 621. 77.

The GDP for the previous quarter was 3. 5%

The Unemployment rate was 4. 6%

George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH.

Remember the day. January 3rd. 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

Unemployment. To this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie. Starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA.

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA and the Democrat Congress.

So when someone tries to blame Bush.

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd. 2007. THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 &2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Senator Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sidney; 426018]A little history lesson.

A lot of people don't care for Bush but here is the story.[/QUOTE]Here is the story about Sidney. A nice guy, a good friend to mongers, but also the biggest ranter against "Obamanation" this board ever saw. How else did his post count get so high? Be prepared to be inundated with right wing nonsense if he returns to his old ways.

His "history lesson" is a copy and paste from the right wing blogosphere. It has a simple rebuttal - the financial "greed is good" house of cards was built between 2001-2006 when Republicans controlled every branch of the federal government. All that was left was for it to come crashing down, regardless of who was in power afterwards.

[QUOTE=Sidney;425999]I have scheduled cataract surgery, Oct 7. Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15! The 'Death Panel'![/QUOTE]Sidney, oddly enough I can't find a peep about this on google. Please provide a credible link! Or be known as just another Republican peddling deception.

[url]http://www.businessweek.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/bill-clinton/261991/[/url]

[QUOTE=Esten; 426034]Here is the story about Sidney. A nice guy, a good friend to mongers, but also the biggest ranter against "Obamanation" this board ever saw. How else did his post count get so high? Be prepared to be inundated with right wing nonsense if he returns to his old ways.

His "history lesson" is a copy and paste from the right wing blogosphere. It has a simple rebuttal. The financial "greed is good" house of cards was built between 2001-2006 when Republicans controlled every branch of the federal government. All that was left was for it to come crashing down, regardless of who was in power afterwards.

Sidney, oddly enough I can't find a peep about this on google. Please provide a credible link! Or be known as just another Republican peddling deception.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clintons-speech-to-the-democratic-national-convention-full-transcript/2012/09/06/af97c51a-f7da-11e1-8253-3f495ae70650_story.html[/url]

33 states say if you do not have drivers license or passport you can not Vote, under the New Republican Laws.

[url]http://www.hbo.com/the-newsroom?cmpid=ABC1270&tracking_ID=305798&K_CLICKID=4be7064e-d756-8569-8ac5-00003c00eab2[/url]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bill-clinton-makes-case-obama-034027507--election.html[/url]

I say again Watch your past history on HBO's Newsroom. They report the truth that happened and You Missed.

"Rights for All Americans!"

The Democrat Party has demonstrated again they are just a pack of hypocrites.

You can not enter the vaulted chambers of the Democrat National Convention without a government issued photo I.D., but when it comes to voting they fight tooth and nail against any effort to institute voter I.D. laws.

Well in the Democrat's minds I am sure they believe their convention is much more important than merely voting for the president, congress and the senate.

What a joke, Bill Clinton having to go to bat for Obama. Isn't this the same Bill Clinton who said Obama should be carrying Hillary and his bags back in 2008? Obama would probably have dicked that up too.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;426041]33 states say if you do not have drivers license or passport you can not Vote, under the New Republican Laws.[/QUOTE]You conveniently forgot to include a state-issued ID card in your list, which may be obtained at any DMV in the country merely by demonstrating that you are a resident of the state, and without taking any sort of driving test.

Here's what's pathetic about all of this: It's the idea that there are groups of individuals in this country who apparently can't function in society with the same tools that are available to the rest of us, specifically the ability to go to a DMV and get a photo ID.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;426041]I say again Watch your past history on HBO's Newsroom. They report the truth that happened and You Missed.[/QUOTE]Great, yet another reference to a fantasy television program.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 426041]"Rights for All Americans!"[/QUOTE]That's the problem. Not everybody lining up to vote in our elections is actually an American citizen, although a lot of them are undocumented Democrats.

Thanks,

Jackson

No, I did not conveniently forget it, but I did forget to mention it.

The problem for some people that don't drive is getting there to get one. Especially in the some of our countries small towns.

Yes, it is a fantasy TV Show, but the news they use really happened. They show a lot of our political fuck ups.

In case you missed Bill Clinton's speech last night here it is.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5knEXDsrL4[/url]

[QUOTE=Jackson; 426055]You conveniently forgot to include a state-issued I'd card in your list, which may be obtained at any DMV in the country merely by demonstrating that you are a resident of the state, and without taking any sort of driving test.

Here's what's pathetic about all of this: It's the idea that there are groups of individuals in this country who apparently can't function in society with the same tools that are available to the rest of us, specifically the ability to go to a DMV and get a photo I'd.

Great, yet another reference to a fantasy television program.

That's the problem. Not everybody lining up to vote in our elections is actually an American citizen, although a lot of them are undocumented Democrats.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;426070]The problem for some people that don't drive is getting there to get one. Especially in the some of our countries small towns.[/QUOTE]Like I said before...

[indent][i]"Here's what's pathetic about all of this: It's the idea that there are groups of individuals in this country who apparently can't function in society with the same tools that are available to the rest of us, specifically the ability to go to a DMV and get a photo ID."[/i][/indent]

So, why is it that these "undocumented voters" can't find a way to get to the DMV and get an ID card [b]like everybody else[/b]!

Thanks,

Jackson

New story just surfaced regarding Axelrod and Gallop Polls. When a Gallop poll back in April 2012 showed Romney leading Obama by about 5 percentage points, Axelrod called the folks at Gallop wanting them to come to the White House to explain their polling methodology. Axelrod alleged their polling methodology was flawed. The Gallop folks felt this was a thinly veiled attempt to intimidate them.

The folks at Gallop declined the invitation / demand to appear at the White House and explain how they arrived at the numbers but did invite Axelrod and any White House representatives to come over to Gallop's offices to discuss the matter but no one accepted the invitation.

The folks at Gallop also did not change the numbers as Axelrod wanted.

Guess what happened next?

All of a sudden the Justice Department got interested in a whistle blower lawsuit filed in 2009 by a former Gallop employee with the DOJ filing a brief in support of the whistle blower.

My what a coincidence!

Sound a bit like Chicago Politics to you?

Since 1961, 52 years, the Republicans have been in office 28 years.

The Democrats have been in 24 years.

66 millions private sector jobs were created.

Pay closed attention now!

The Republicans created 24 million jobs.

And.

The Democrats created [b]42 Million Jobs. [/b]

P.S.

Of all the Countries with Health Care Coverage, not one of them is trying to get rid of it..