American Politics during the Obama Presidency

All your Obama blame is getting real tired, Doppel. Like we can believe a Serial Obama Denigrator will give a fair assessment of Obama's impact on their business. Right! LOL You simply don't have much credibility here, Doppel. I suggest you look deeper into how other factors, including capitalism itself, have affected small business in the US. Here's some more reading.

Obama's 18 small business tax cuts - explained
[URL]http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/24/smallbusiness/obama-tax-cuts/index.html[/URL]

Here's what we know about Doppel:
He's failed to provide a concrete example of how Obama hurt his business.
He's provided information that allows a calculation of saving approximately [B]$19,400[/B] in his taxes over 2011-12, due to tax legislation Obama signed.

Doppel would like to hide behind the facade of "My business is too complicated for you to understand, take my word for it." But an income and payroll tax calculation is a simple matter of multiplication. His lack of appreciation for the help he has received is astounding.

Here's an example of how capitalism hurts small business.

New Study: Wal-Mart Means Fewer Jobs, Less Small Businesses, More Burden on Taxpayers
[URL]http://pubadvocate.nyc.gov/news/2011-01-11/new-study-wal-mart-means-fewer-jobs-less-small-businesses-more-burden-taxpayers[/URL]

Some interesting findings:
- Wal-Mart store openings kill three local jobs for every two they create by reducing retail employment by an average of 2.7 percent in every county they enter.
- Chain stores, like Wal-Mart send most of their revenues out of the community, while local businesses keep more consumer dollars in local economy: for every $100 spent in locally owned businesses, $68 stayed in the local economy while chain stores only left $43 to re-circulate locally.

[QUOTE=Esten;434781]
Here's what we know about Doppel:
He's failed to provide a concrete example of how Obama hurt his business.
He's provided information that allows a calculation of saving approximately [B]$19,400[/B] in his taxes over 2011-12, due to tax legislation Obama signed.

Doppel would like to hide behind the facade of "My business is too complicated for you to understand, take my word for it." But an income and payroll tax calculation is a simple matter of multiplication. His lack of appreciation for the help he has received is astounding.[/QUOTE]Don't you ever get tired of being wrong Esten?

First your calculations are wrong, remember the $200 K break point? Second, just because you plug a percentage into a number does not make your answer correct or even relevant. I never said my financials were too complicated, I said you don't know what you are talking about since you don't even know what they are.

I could say Esten save $100 K under Obama's "tax cuts" in addition to another $100 K in direct government benefits. But that does not make the statement true as I have no real information about Esten. Even if the $250 K number were still accurate, you don't know the composition or source of the funds.

Esten, you are like the child who asks the same stupid question over and over. Go stand in the corner, your in time out.

As far as Wal-Mart and mom & pop businesses, Wal-Mart delivers more products at lower cost than their competition that's just the way it is unless your a liberal and want to control everything for everyone's "best interest". I think we are back at the "Liberal Elite" discussion.

What out of the corner already?

Obama met with Hilary Clinton for lunch, and the begging question is, did they talk about 2016? Now, you can draw your own conclusions. But like an athlete aiming for the Olympics, you really need to start your preparations early. Physically, which she is doing right by resigning that exhaustive job of Secretary of State. And then doing the rounds of maintaining her profile in the public eye, being current and relevant, and integrating among the adoring faithful supporters and donors. Perhaps, another book? Her ambition to be president is quite extraordinary, the knocks and sacrifices that she has taken in the personal and public arenas is no less than many Olympic gold medal winners.

Will she be a formidable candidate? I think I can hear the knees knocking and trembling already across the aisle. Young gunslingers like Rubio & Cruz might think they are the fastest guns in the west, but will they survive High Noon. With Bill Clinton hovering by her side, she could win with Barbara Streisand as her VP. Or maybe, by then, Sarah Palin might have switch sides.

BlackShirt, Bill Clinton as "first lady" is to horrible to even think about. Running around the White House feeling up the female staff and "starching" their clothing for them.

They would need to replace the desk chair in the oval office for a double wide as well.

I think if the Republican's can come up with a young viable candidate it should be an interesting election cycle which the Republican's should win. Obama will be leaving such a mess by the end of his term folks will be looking for leadership and let's face it Hillary and Bill by then will be has beens, I hope.

Never under estimate Hillary, but she was the anointed one for the 2008 election and got her ass kicked by a young upstart with little experience and a slick tongue. Democrats are not very forgiving of losers, so we will see.

An interesting article on Lifesaving options.

And finally, we have come to the edge of the cliff, and desperation is setting in upon the opponents of ObamaCare. Not too different to the Civil Rights of 1964. We have a core of people who will have to be drag screaming and kicking into an new era. I often wonder how the Chinese Cultural Revolution can distort & controlled the mindset of what seem to normal and reasonable people. And here we are in 2013, history repeats itself.

Is ObamaCare perfect, no. Of course, it can be improve as the system work it's kinks out. Did Obama took advantage of Congress to pass the law, of course, he is not stupid! I am just watching Hannity on Fox, and the ranting and claims are just outrageous. Most of the audience seem to be educated, have full time jobs, or within Medicare in the near future. I don't think any of them are even going to be affected, they will be cover by their jobs or even able to afford to buy individually. I see irrational fear among the audience, 90% of them, Whites. Hannity, the shameless manipulator of disinformation and fear while raking in the millions. Only in America.

Black Shirt, be careful what you wish for. You might get it. Since Obama took office the number of unemployed has skyrocketed, the number of people on Food Stamps has skyrocketed, the number of people on Welfare has increased considerably and now we want Government HealthCare ie ObamaCare.

Any person who believes he will be better off and prosper with the government taking care of him should take a good look at the last group of people the government "took care of", Native Americans.

Nuf said.

Don't you love all those Indian Casinos?

The unemployment started under Bush.

Oh, how we forget!

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;434882]Black Shirt, be careful what you wish for. You might get it. Since Obama took office the number of unemployed has skyrocketed, the number of people on Food Stamps has skyrocketed, the number of people on Welfare has increased considerably and now we want Government HealthCare ie ObamaCare.

Any person who believes he will be better off and prosper with the government taking care of him should take a good look at the last group of people the government "took care of", Native Americans.

Nuf said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;434880]And finally, we have come to the edge of the cliff, and desperation is setting in upon the opponents of ObamaCare. Not too different to the Civil Rights of 1964. We have a core of people who will have to be drag screaming and kicking into an new era. I often wonder how the Chinese Cultural Revolution can distort & controlled the mindset of what seem to normal and reasonable people. And here we are in 2013, history repeats itself.

Is ObamaCare perfect, no. Of course, it can be improve as the system work it's kinks out. Did Obama took advantage of Congress to pass the law, of course, he is not stupid! I am just watching Hannity on Fox, and the ranting and claims are just outrageous. Most of the audience seem to be [B]educated, have full time jobs, or within Medicare in the near future[/B]. I don't think any of them are even going to be affected, they will be cover by their jobs or even able to afford to buy individually. I see irrational fear among the audience, 90% of them, Whites. Hannity, the shameless manipulator of disinformation and fear while raking in the millions. Only in America.[/QUOTE]Actually, VERY different from the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which was passed as a bipartisan measure with 80% Republican support. Medicare is a much better analogy and it to was a bipartisan measure with 50% Republican support and support of a sound majority of the American public.

ObamaCare was a rabidly partisan measure that had absolutely 0% Republican support and lacked the support of the American people. Today, it continues to be opposed by an overwhelming majority of the American people. The last CBS News poll show Americans oppose ObamaCare 54% to 36%.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the catastrophic disruptions that have been occurring. Companies left and right (including liberal governments and universities) have been changing jobs to part-time are reducing all part-time jobs to below 30 hours. We haven't even begun to see the effects of increased mandates that will sky-rocket company's insurance premiums. Many companies will seriously look to drop insurance and pay the penalties.

[QUOTE=SpiritRider;434884]Actually, VERY different from the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which was passed as a bipartisan measure with 80% Republican support. Medicare is a much better analogy and it to was a bipartisan measure with 50% Republican support and support of a sound majority of the American public.

ObamaCare was a rabidly partisan measure that had absolutely 0% Republican support and lacked the support of the American people. Today, it continues to be opposed by an overwhelming majority of the American people. The last CBS News poll show Americans oppose ObamaCare 54% to 36%.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the catastrophic disruptions that have been occurring. Companies left and right (including liberal governments and universities) have been changing jobs to part-time are reducing all part-time jobs to below 30 hours. We haven't even begun to see the effects of increased mandates that will sky-rocket company's insurance premiums. Many companies will seriously look to drop insurance and pay the penalties.[/QUOTE]Yet, you could be wrong. Nobody really knows. Too much shouting and fear-mongering to allow for a good debate. Most people agree we need medical reform, but there has been zero initiatives from across the aisle. 70% of bankruptcies comes from medical outcomes. So we know we have a broken system. Vested interests have strong-arm Congress into inaction. But most opposition have come because it is an Obama plan, that's it. They are so afraid of him achieving any kind of success. Very sad.

I happen to have one of the best medical coverage but I never get to use it as I live overseas. $5 co-pay for all visits, procedures, prescription, etc. Been paying out of pocket for minor problems and dental work. All I can say, it must be scary feeling not to have any insurance.

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;434854]BlackShirt, Bill Clinton as "first lady" is to horrible to even think about. Running around the White House feeling up the female staff and "starching" their clothing for them.

They would need to replace the desk chair in the oval office for a double wide as well.

I think if the Republican's can come up with a young viable candidate it should be an interesting election cycle which the Republican's should win. Obama will be leaving such a mess by the end of his term folks will be looking for leadership and let's face it Hillary and Bill by then will be has beens, I hope.

Never under estimate Hillary, but she was the anointed one for the 2008 election and got her ass kicked by a young upstart with little experience and a slick tongue. Democrats are not very forgiving of losers, so we will see.[/QUOTE]It's long but it's worth it!

Where is he when we need him?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wrRTau5jusU[/URL] <[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wrRTau5jusU>[/URL].

TL.

20 Republicans voted for it.

[URL]http://www.senateconservatives.com/site/post/2021/20-republicans-vote-to-fund-obamacare[/URL]

[QUOTE=SpiritRider;434884]Actually, VERY different from the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which was passed as a bipartisan measure with 80% Republican support. Medicare is a much better analogy and it to was a bipartisan measure with 50% Republican support and support of a sound majority of the American public.

ObamaCare was a rabidly partisan measure that had absolutely [b]0% Republican support[/b] and lacked the support of the American people. Today, it continues to be opposed by an overwhelming majority of the American people. The last CBS News poll show Americans oppose ObamaCare 54% to 36%.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the catastrophic disruptions that have been occurring. Companies left and right (including liberal governments and universities) have been changing jobs to part-time are reducing all part-time jobs to below 30 hours. We haven't even begun to see the effects of increased mandates that will sky-rocket company's insurance premiums. Many companies will seriously look to drop insurance and pay the penalties.[/QUOTE]

Republicans still ranting about the Affordable Care Act, voting on one symbolic repeal bill after another. What a waste, but that's what the Republican Party largely is today.

The ACA is a great step forward for US Health Care. Obama ran on health care reform and he delivered. Support for ACA was pretty evenly split at the time, with some opposed in fact wanting the legislation to do more. The lack of bipartisan support means absolutely nothing, zero, because it's well-known that from the moment Obama was elected, Republicans strategized to oppose him. That continues today, there have been several examples where Republicans voted against Obama, not so much because they disagreed, but because they feared giving him a win. The ACA is actually based on a Conservative vision of health care reform, where more people have to pay their way rather than freeload off the system. Republican voters overwhelmingly support many key provisions in ACA. While there are likely to be some legitimate negative effects for some people, this is likely to be limited in scope. And dwarfed by the benefits. Remember how Darden's experiment to cut worker hours failed. Those employers who fail to provide good health insurance options for their workers will be at a competitive disadvantage. The market works both ways. While Republicans keep their myopic focus on every little negative angle they can find, keep in mind the many positive things about ACA.

- Millions more Americans will have health insurance.
- Insurance companies can no longer impose lifetime coverage limits on your insurance.
- Insurance companies will have limitations on annual caps.
- Insurers can no longer tell kids with preexisting conditions that they'll insure them except for the preexisting condition.
- Insurance companies can't drop you when you get sick.
- You can stay on your parents' insurance until you're 26.
- Seniors get $250 towards closing the "doughnut hole" in their prescription drug coverage.
- No more co-pays for preventative services in Medicare.
- Small businesses get big tax credits—up to 50 percent of premium costs—for offering health insurance to their workers.
- Insurers with unusually high administrative costs have to offer rebates to their customers, and every insurance company has to reveal how much it spends on overhead.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;434880]I am just watching Hannity on Fox, and the ranting and claims are just outrageous. Most of the audience seem to be educated, have full time jobs, or within Medicare in the near future. I don't think any of them are even going to be affected, they will be cover by their jobs or even able to afford to buy individually. I see irrational fear among the audience, 90% of them, Whites. Hannity, the shameless manipulator of disinformation and fear while raking in the millions. Only in America.[/QUOTE]You got that 1000% correct! Hannity is an entertainer on Faux News, nothing else.