Black

Stan,

Your response is very much appreciated. I will be in BA on business probably around the week of the 20th of April so if you are in town parallel to that time, it would be fun to do an unbiased 60 minutes style TV expose as to who and what is happening in this town. If you are around, drop me a note and we can at least coordinate a night of steak, wine and of course chica harpooning.

I respectfully bow to the sage veterans on this board who have shared their tireless efforts with all of us connisseurs in Argentina, one the last great bastions of mongering. Jackson should at least win the congressional medal of honor, a Kennedy Center honor or the very least, a trip sponsored by all of us to new, fertile hunting grounds. China? Prague? Moscow?

I understand your point about some of the trashing of various places owing to the escalating prices at Black's and Madahos. And there will always be an inevitable debate between the Privado Boys and the Boliche Boys. For what it is worth, I truly enjoy walking into the boliches after a great supper, tummy filled with great Argentine beef and sated with wine. I can then relax with buddies, "ooh and aah" over the evening's cattle call, and spear my little fish in the gentle rolling stream of chicas.

I fully intend on retracing my hallowed steps at Black's, revisiting Madahos to see how and why they wear the current crown, and test out the new waters of the emerging set of boliches. Of course, using Jackson's great enter at your own peril list of places to enjoy or avoid.

Scott

As I keep saying, "It Doesn't Take Any Brains To Spend Money"

To find true value you've got to get out into the field and work hard to discover it. Yes your going to "Waste" some orgams but in the long run you'll have devoloped your own "Stable" of good reliable Chica's that provide what your looking for.

Going to Black or Madaho's and just spending money is not the answer.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]As I keep saying, "It Doesn't Take Any Brains To Spend Money"

To find true value you've got to get out into the field and work hard to discover it. Yes your going to "Waste" some orgams but in the long run you'll have devoloped your own "Stable" of good reliable Chica's that provide what your looking for.

Going to Black or Madaho's and just spending money is not the answer.

Exon[/QUOTE]Bottom line is that there are different strokes for different blokes.

Jack

[QUOTE=Jackjack1]Bottom line is that there are different strokes for different blokes.

Jack[/QUOTE]You go for it Jack.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]You go for it Jack.

Exon[/QUOTE]Thanks Exon, I will. I respect both your opinion and Stan's. I think that if I went to Black's and Madahos I would get the full Buenos Aires experience. Whether or not I would fork out what these chicas are asking for depends on the situation.

Cheers,

Jack

[QUOTE=Exon123]As I keep saying, "It Doesn't Take Any Brains To Spend Money"

To find true value you've got to get out into the field and work hard to discover it. Yes your going to "Waste" some orgams but in the long run you'll have devoloped your own "Stable" of good reliable Chica's that provide what your looking for.

Going to Black or Madaho's and just spending money is not the answer.

Exon[/QUOTE]What thoughtful and sage advice! Thanks!

Not only are you able to separate the valuable and worthwhile experiences from the expensive and unworthy places, you are also able to spend my money for me.

Imagine that? I've been going to Madaho's and Black for several years now. Indeed, I [I]somehow fooled myself into believing I was having a good time [/I] when I was there. Thanks for pointing out that these places are not the answer, and that I'll have to waste some "orgams" trying to "devolop" a stable. [B]Now[/B] I see the light: The Value Monger way is the only way to true happiness and contentment.

By the way, I see your point that it may not take brains to spend money. Does the same rule apply to spelling?

[QUOTE=Stan Da Man]What thoughtful and sage advice! Thanks!

Not only are you able to separate the valuable and worthwhile experiences from the expensive and unworthy places, you are also able to spend my money for me.

Imagine that? I've been going to Madaho's and Black for several years now. Indeed, I [I]somehow fooled myself into believing I was having a good time [/I] when I was there. Thanks for pointing out that these places are not the answer, and that I'll have to waste some "orgams" trying to "devolop" a stable. [B]Now[/B] I see the light: The Value Monger way is the only way to true happiness and contentment.

By the way, I see your point that it may not take brains to spend money. Does the same rule apply to spelling?[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,

Both of you present a point of view. Let's not take this to a different level. In a way, we are brothers in arms. Keep up the good work in reporting. This site is an invaluable resource because of your reflections and recommendations.

Cheers,

Jack

Mongers,

I go to Black and Madahos several times per year, generally when friends from out of town are visiting but sometimes with people living in Buenos Aires. Neither place is a clip joint nor a rip-off. They have a set of transparent business practices that they abide by. They never try to make the customer pay for unwanted drinks or any of that nonsense. Yes, they are much more expensive than other places, and the drink prices are beyond ridiculous. However, I have yet to bring an out of town visitor who was not extremely impressed with either of these places. The bottom line is that these places usually have a strong selection of doable chicas, as long as you like late 20's and older girls with breast implants. Those looking for 18-25 year old spinners or more naturally looking girls would do better in other establishments. For the short time visitor, Black (or Madahos) can be fun places where you can fuck a hot girl for a non-ridiculous sum of money by international standards. For those living full time in Buenos Aires, or for frequent visitors, there are much better choices available in terms of both value and performance.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Well done RH on your post. The best part I like about Black is when I go there I feel young, thin and attractive for a few hours. Then reality sets in. I also don't have as much money for some reason.

The positive thing is the spank bank is full once again. Kind of like the gift that keeps on giving.

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers,

I go to Black and Madahos several times per year, generally when friends from out of town are visiting but sometimes with people living in Buenos Aires. Neither place is a clip joint nor a rip-off. They have a set of transparent business practices that they abide by. They never try to make the customer pay for unwanted drinks or any of that nonsense. Yes, they are much more expensive than other places, and the drink prices are beyond ridiculous. However, I have yet to bring an out of town visitor who was not extremely impressed with either of these places. The bottom line is that these places usually have a strong selection of doable chicas, as long as you like late 20's and older girls with breast implants. Those looking for 18-25 year old spinners or more naturally looking girls would do better in other establishments. For the short time visitor, Black (or Madahos) can be fun places where you can fuck a hot girl for a non-ridiculous sum of money by international standards. For those living full time in Buenos Aires, or for frequent visitors, there are much better choices available in terms of both value and performance.

Suerte,

Rock Harders[/QUOTE]

Spend us$300 on a night of fun with a high end club girl [that would get us$1000 in any major city in the USA] or $40 at The Triangle.

When you meet someone who floats your boat--whatever the source--develope a friendship or a working professional relationship. You consistantly get better service from the girls who are comfotable with you; know you and like being with you. Their work can be dangerous and a known client is almost always preferable to a stranger.

I have an Exxon style relationship with girls that I intially met a Blacks, las lopez and a couple from word of mouth. I if I lined them up in front of you dressed and made-up in the way then stop by my apartment to tickle my fancy, you could never guess who came from where. The las lopez and blacks girls both tell me the same thing: don't come to the club to meet me. They both did not start to really deliver great service until the tarnish rubbed off. they think that the customers who go to those clubs are idiots to be ripped-off.

Maybe I tend to attract and like women who think that way and I am not getting a true view of what the upper end boliche girls think about the patrons; but the message I've received is pretty clear. I do enjoy occassionally going to Blacks--Daniel is a good guy and I am paying for the atmosphere. I'll blow us$100 to enjoy a few hours at Madahos--the same way I might do the same thing at a gentlemen's club in the states. It's rare that I'll actually take a girl out. I've been to Madahoes with Exxon within the last year.

The real gems are developed over time--this is Exxon's message. If you spend time with a hot girl from Blacks--send her an email; bring her a small gift from the usa; call her to say hello when you are in the states; invite her to a pre-work dinner. The service will improve and she will be embarrased to ask for us$200, becuase she knows you and likes you or at least values you as a good client. She'll introduce you to her friends who work and tell them that you are a good guy. You will have fewer poor or below average experiences.

SPEND your money how ever you please. This boy learned something from Exxon and Dick Head that is worth learning weather you prefer 100 pesos gals or the glamorous babes at the Recoletta clubs.

Stan from your past posts and Exxon's. You both visit some of the same places. Exxon is loaded half the time he is posting and inadvertently is not as diplomatic as he could be, but I learned something valuable from him.

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers,

I go to Black and Madahos several times per year, generally when friends from out of town are visiting but sometimes with people living in Buenos Aires. Neither place is a clip joint nor a rip-off. They have a set of transparent business practices that they abide by. They never try to make the customer pay for unwanted drinks or any of that nonsense. Yes, they are much more expensive than other places, and the drink prices are beyond ridiculous. However, I have yet to bring an out of town visitor who was not extremely impressed with either of these places. The bottom line is that these places usually have a strong selection of doable chicas, as long as you like late 20's and older girls with breast implants. Those looking for 18-25 year old spinners or more naturally looking girls would do better in other establishments. For the short time visitor, Black (or Madahos) can be fun places where you can fuck a hot girl for a non-ridiculous sum of money by international standards. For those living full time in Buenos Aires, or for frequent visitors, there are much better choices available in terms of both value and performance.

Suerte,

Rock Harders[/QUOTE]I largely agree. I don't pretend to tell anyone what to do with their mongering dollars, or which experience [b]is[/b] better than another, or who is the [i]smarter[/i] monger, or how best to approach these issues, or what the [b][i]correct[/i][/b] price is for this or that.

This site is all about sharing information, and it's a great forum for that. I do object, however, when someone consistently claims that they have some superior strategy, which boils down to price, and thinks they can impose that world view on others. Price just isn't the central issue for me, at least not right now.

If there are folks here who think that they can consistently find pearls where others find swine, that they can find that diamond in the rough -- then great for them. I'm not going to pretend to tell them that they're missing out on the high life, nor do I believe they are.

I just object when someone tells me how I should go about having a good time and how much I should spend doing it. If that's what I wanted, I'd get married.

Other than that, I agree with everything Exon said.

Anyone get stared down here recently by a group of chicas?

I don't miss that at all.

[QUOTE=Esten]Anyone get stared down here recently by a group of chicas?

I don't miss that at all.[/QUOTE]I do miss that.

[QUOTE=Miami Bob]Spend us$300 on a night of fun with a high end club girl [that would get us$1000 in any major city in the USA] or $40 at The Triangle.

The real gems are developed over time--this is Exxon's message. If you spend time with a hot girl from Blacks--send her an email; bring her a small gift from the usa; call her to say hello when you are in the states; invite her to a pre-work dinner. The service will improve and she will be embarrased to ask for us$200, becuase she knows you and likes you or at least values you as a good client. She'll introduce you to her friends who work and tell them that you are a good guy. You will have fewer poor or below average experiences.[/QUOTE]True that Miami Bob! It's amazing how people for get that these girls are "real" people too with feelings and not just Gentlemen Juice Containers. Treat people with respect and in turn you will get respect back.

Only two weeks to go and I can't wait! I did exactly what you said and treated this SUPER fine Domician chick from Blacks (like a real person with feelings (calls, flowers on her birthday. And now I have a "girlfriend" in BA who's going to rock my world for free / almost free and all I had to do was be nice to her.

Shocking!

No one can consistently find new gems. You pays your money and takes your chances. Last year I met a very hot Madahoes' girls on one of my last nights in BA and I was too sick with the flu to take her out. She was very sweet and spent a long time chatting with me while nursing a drink for over an hour. I was impressed--wow--she is actually treating me like an human being + she was very hot. WE traded email addresses and telephone numbers and I gave her a 50 pesos tip because she kept me company without pushing drinks and lost commissions by being kind to me. I called her and traded emails for 3 or 4 months until I came back with a play station 3 game for her son in hand and met her again.

I took her from the boliche without paying for a drink and aggreed on 400 or 450 pesos for 2 hours--boy was I set for a gfe--I had been chatting with her for months and had some type of rapport--NO dfk or even lfk and cbj w / mechanical sex--poor experience--got her out the door in one hour and lost the phone number and email address. She was a bad provider. They are out there in every price range. Many times this same type of program got me great service--the full boy friend / gfe experience w / all the trimmings that is not that comon to find just for money the first time out.

What ever style you prefer, the are as many types of providers as mongers.

A while back I stayed in an apartment across the street from Blacks and was in there every other night. I was stupid and missed-out on a beautiful blonde --whose face I can still remember---over 100 pesos or so. Sometimes.

The limits I set for myself don't make sense over the long run. WE all have our own way that we play the game--just like the girls. Blacks at it's high point, was a scene to remember. It saddens me to read about what is going on now. Anyone want to check out Blacks with me when I'm in town the first half of June?