This may show as a double post because of a tech problem when I first sent it. I'm wondering if anybody has ever had a session with Yanina from Area Vip?
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This may show as a double post because of a tech problem when I first sent it. I'm wondering if anybody has ever had a session with Yanina from Area Vip?
Last evening, I was originally headed to Corrientes 1642 to try them out, but the portero wouldn't let me in without giving him an ID card number. I wasn't going to leave a written trail if I could help it, so changed my plans. Where to go now that I was all dressed up and no place to go? Debated for a couple of minutes, and headed over to Corrientes 1965, even though I had just been there the afternoon before.
They seemed to be busy, so I only was presented with two ladies, and one of them was Lorena, the blonde paraguaya. Some of the other women there who were spoken for were pretty hot. I chose Lorena again, and opted for a quickie 30-minute session for 30 pesos.
Lorena did a great bbbj with lots of eye contact, and then hurried me into a couple of poses. I didn't mind, since my primary intent at the time was a quick taking care of business. For that, Lorena is very good. She is a sex worker, with apparently very little interest in "getting to know you," etc.
Interesting side note is that Lorena used her panties to tie up her hair while doing the bbbj so that I could have an unobstructed view. Wonder if it is part of the in-house training? The other day, with Daniela with the nice chest, she used her bra to tie up her hair so that I could see her while she gave me a bbbj.
Novio, just pull your ID out of your wallet, act like you are reading the number off of it, and change a few digits. No problema.
Finally, I made my way to BA recently. I will share my experience with the rest of world. Keep in mind, I speak litter Spanish and did not do any extensive research before I leave. I did write down a few addresses, such as Black.
I used Ana to pick me up from EZE airport. When I arrived, I could not find her. So, I called her from my US mobile. I was surprised I can not reach her. When I travel in the rest of world, I can dial the local number without country code from my US mobile. This is not the case in BA. It seems that I have to dial the whole number with the country code, just as you will dial it from US. Anyway, Ana arrived a few minutes later. Everything was good.
On the way to hotel, Ana found an ATM for me. I took out $700 pesos. This seems to be the largest amount I can take out. In the next few days, I found that this ATM only gives $100 pesos bill. This costs me later on.
The rest of report will be based on specific topic.
Special thanks to Capt Dave and Jackson. A great party. Capt Dave is a such good host. Thanks for Dickhead. It was a great time to hang out.
Imagine:
It was my 1st night. I had an early dinner and walked around street to get a feeling about BA. Walked by the Imagine. It is located a few doors away from Excedra (Carlos Pellegrini 845). It was early, around 9PM. The guy at door wanted me to check it out. I took a peek. There was no one customer and about 10 girls. I have no interest to sit at this place. It smells like a tourist trap. I was at the door and ready to back out. One of girls is very cute. She came up and begged me to stay. She asked me to kiss her on the cheek. So I tell her if she kissed me on the lip, I would stay. She backed out. So, I headed out. The doorman asked me to stay again. He said that the 1st drink is free. So, I said to myself, what hell. I want to see how this place was going to bust my ball. I went back in and had a beer.
It is a very small place. One of girls got me a beer. 2 girls got on top of bar and started to danced around pole. There are about 4 guys (including the doorman) and 10 girls working there. Only one girl is very cute. I think she is the bait to get customers in there. Anyway, this cute girl speaks not much English. She got the other girl who speaks English sat with me on my left and she sat on my right. They started to ask me buy their drinks. I say no. And, I ask her how about going back to my hotel with me. She was surprised by the question and recovered quickly. She suggested I buy her a drink then discussed it. I say no again. Then she said that she could come to my hotel after she gets off work at 12. I said that I wanted it now. By this time, she knew that I was not going to buy the drink. These 2 girls finally left me alone to finish my free beer. 2 girls on the bar were dancing for me the whole time.
I finished my free beer and headed out the place without spending a cent.
Well, I will not recommend anyone else to do what I did. It is foolish to sit in a strange place with 4 muscle men and 10 girls.
Excedra:
I have read many BA reports. Somehow, I did not remember Excedra. So, I walked by this place the 1st night. I thought that it were a regular coffee shop. Then, I noticed something strange. Every girls sitting inside watched me passing by through the window. Well, I know I am good looking, but not that good looking. Something is fishy here. When my taxi passed by this pace again at 2 AM. I noticed that same girls sat near the window. I decided to check out this place the next day.
The next night, I stepped by this place around 11pm. When I walked into the door, every girl (sat with guys or without guys) looked at me. Interesting. Why I did not remember this place on the WSG?
I ordered a coffer and looked around. There were about 2 doable girls (one of them I did a day later). Most of girls are at least in their late 20. I am not interest in such demographic group most of time. But, I decided to play the stupid tourist before I hit regular clubs.
A blonde smiled at me constantly across the room. Finally, I smiled back and fingered her over. I offered her a drink. She said that she was hungry and wanted food. WTF. Ok, I brought $15 pesos food for her. She is Brazilian. We talked about her life story and killed time before I went clubbing. It was just normal conversation. Then, I commented how weird place this is. There is no young man in this place. She told me that these men were here for girls. I still played the dummy tourist and pretended not know what she means. Finally, she said that she was a working girl, as the rest of girls at Excedra. I made clearly that I did not want to have paid sex with her. Well, it was time for me to hit clubs. So, I paid my bill and left. She did get a free meal and I had my fun.
The next day, I was more in the mood for a girl. I came back to Excedra. I saw a tall dark hair girl(one of two better looking girls from previous day) looking at me. She has a good face. I waved her over. She asked for $200 pesos. I countered with $150 pesos. She accepted it so quick that I knew that I should counter with $100 pesos.
Her name is Carolina. very tall. Good face and upper body since she is only 20 years old. I will post her picture later. She seems to be gaming for everything. But her BBBJ is so hard in the 2nd round that I have to stop her to prevent any damage.
When I was ready to pay her, I found that I don’t have a $50. So, I gave her $200 pesos. No big deal.
She gave me her number and asked me to call her the next day. I told her I wouldn’t. My stay at BA was short and cannot afford to spend too much time with the same girl.
That’s it for my Excedra experience.
Café Orleans:
I stopped at Café Orleans after having dinner La Posada De 1820. It is 2 blocks away. So, I stopped by around 11pm. There were about 12 girls. I was not impressed. I had a coffer and left. The guy at bar was surprised by my quick departure. “No girls?” he asked. I said no and headed to Black.
Hook:
It was my 1st night at BA. I decided to hit Hook since it is near my hotel. There is no cover charge to get in this place. However, the place is very dark. I can not see these girls very well. On my way to the man’s room, I finally had a chance to examine these girls sitting at bar. I only saw one cute girl. She seems to be very young. But, a guy quickly picked her up.
Well, not much to see here. I decided to hit the next door Catto’s.
Ness:
I went to this place with DickHead. Not impressed. We left in 2 seconds.
Catto’s:
There is no cover charge at this place also. A friendly doorman leaded me into the place. The place was packed. He introduced himself and understood I only speak English. He quickly introduced a girl to me. This girl speaks good English, with a average face and very good body. I brought her a drink and started to make out with her. Based on the make out session, I know that she would be a good candidate for my 1st BA girl.
She asked for $200 pesos straightly. Well, at least she did not ask for US$200. I decided to accept it.
Back to the hotel, she was very good. Open to everything.
When she left, she gave me her home and mobile number, so I can call her the next day to hang out. Well, I did not call her in the next day. So litter time and so much to explore in BA.
Her name is Karen. Works Monday to Friday. I have her ass picture and will post soon.
Nuevo Estilo:
Went to this place with DickHead. Thanks for DickHead, we did not paid a cover charge. There are 2-3 doable girls. We had 2 drinks and left.
By the way, it was a lot of fun hanging out with Dickhead.
Black:
So far, I was disappointed by the talent of BA. I have been to Hook, Catto’s, Café Orleans, Excedra, Santa Fe 1707. Where are these stunning beauties? Let’s head to Black since this is the top club in BA.
I paid my $25 pesos cover charge. Well, I like the place, a lot. The talent level is way better than other places. I had a drink. Did not see anything irresistible. And, I did not do a price check. I decided to check out other places since I had limited time in BA.
On my way out, I asked the doorman if I have to pay again when I come back that night. He said I did not have to pay the cover charge again.
So, I took the taxi to check out Pacha, which ended as a waste of time.
I never made back to Black in this trip.
Madahos:
After my unsuccessful attempt at Pacha, I decided to check out Madahos. If I didn’t like the place, I can always go back to Black.
When I got to Madahos, I mentioned Jackson’s $25 peso cover charge discount. I did not get it. No big deal. I paid my $25 pesos.
This place is very similar to Black. Black may have more slight better girls. However, I found my beauty at Madahos.
A Brazilian girl caught my eyes. She is just my type. A long story short. I took her back to hotel for 2 hours. It was $200 pesos, + a drink.
She is my best experience in BA. I went back to Madahos the next night around 2:30AM. I found her and took her again.
I never ask for her number(what’s the point). But I had picture of her ass. I will post soon.
The best girl in BA is from Brazil. Maybe I should stick to Brazil.
I like Black and Madahos. If I come back to BA, I will visit these 2 places first.
I did a lot of shopping in BA. Girls working in these stores love to flirt with me. I have never encounter such flirting attitude in other countries. My Argentina colleague did warn me how flirt Argentina girls are (and go nowhere fast). I was surprised by how good some of their English are. It was a lot of fun. Many pretty girls work in the trendy stores.
Heidi from www.areavip.com.ar
She is one of the best kept secret from the Buenos aires section of wsg.
There are a lot of positive reviews on Heidi on the local board.
She is like her pictures, maybe a little thinner, mid thirties, 1m70, fake big boobs, very tanned, outstanding body, good face.
bbj with a lot deep throat, vaginal and anal (in fact she seems to prefer anal when she has the choice), a lot of fingering.
outstanding performance from a great professional.
Highly recommended.
She works in Sarmiento suites. her cellular is always turned on the answering machine. I called 5 times and 5 times I got the answering machine; finally I decided to leave my name and phone number and she called me back 20 minutes later.
200Pesos for one hour. she is quoted 150P on the local board, I guess I paid the "gringo premium" but 50 P is not that much and she is worth it.
CaptainNemo,
Glad you had fun. I've always posted the hottest girls are from Brazil. No girl is better in bed, IMHO than Brasileras. Madahos and Black [b]clearly[/b] have much hotter girls compared to the other clubs. I don't think anyone can dispute that. They ARE more expensive though. Also, at Madahos you can tell them you are a friend of "Bobby" (the waiter) and they will waive the cover fee for you. If you decide to stay it would be fair to use him. He's a very friendly guy that speaks excellent English and he used to live in the USA. They never charge me a cover because they know I'm a friend of his. He told me anyone can tell them they are a friend of his and they won't charge you a cover. The cover includes your first drink anyway.
Locals will always get a lower price than gringos. It also depends on the girls though. Probably when I get my apartments up and running I'll call girls for free for my guests at no charge to schedule appointments for them.
Don't underestimate the action in Brazil. I know this is the BA section but the sex scene is better in Rio, IMHO.
There's a southern wind brewing and I just may catch a ride. Anyone interested in Dinner wednesday night?
MM
Oh god, lock up the women, and call out the National Guard!
Tonight I met up with some compañeros in Ness. One quickly left with the sister of an ex favorita. I'm looking forward to field reports on her as there are none. I left with my GS or gata salvaje, whom I had not fucked in about five weeks, since before I went to Europe. I suppose she was my favorita at the time I left.
I think if you are gone for a while it is hard to go back. Everything went fine and we have a good rapport but I found myself wondering what the heck I thought was so great about her. A nice girl, but now relegated to occasional repeats. Favorita status has expired.
So now I find myself without a favorita. My Peruana is leaving for Paraguay for a few weeks and I bet it will be similarly hard to reconnect with her, although I will certainly try. If I had it to do over again, I would have done her tonight instead of the GS.
I guess I will take a few days off and then start over from scratch. A funny side note is that while I was leaving in the cab with the GS, we spotted my original favorita, late of Catto's and now of Ness, chatting on her cell phone on the corner of Suipacha and Paraguay. I rolled down the window, called her over, and gave her an alfajor. We are still good friends. She has a beautiful smile, as does her sister, as does the GS, as does the Peruana. I guess maybe that must be important to me. I want to do Antonela from Nuevo Estilo again soon. It's been almost 3 months and she has a great smile too.
Rest up DH, those southern winds have been upgraded to a category 3.
My trip is winding down, so just a couple of brief reviews. I tend to be a creature of habit and will go back to the same places if the service has been good.
Went back to the privado on Arenales for another 30 peso per hour experience. Picked Carolina, a porteña about 28 years old, brunette. Nothing particularly special, but did enjoy the "in-between" time. She did have pretty good oral skills.
Another trip to Corrientes 1965, that is becoming my reference point in BA. Lorena always seems to be there, but I picked a brunette with a nice bosom that had caught my eye the previous time. Her name was Nicole, also a paraguaya. Excellent bbbj, then she urged me to DATY after I had been working on her nice tits, so I obliged since she was fairly well-shaved and smelled clean. If she was putting on an act, it certainly fooled the both of us. A couple of positions in FS for a nice finish. I keep going back because it´s good value for money (this time was 30 pesos for the half hour), there´s always at least a couple fo girls I want to do, and the service is reliable.
[b] Madahos raises entrance (drink prices) to 30 pesos now[/b]
Madahos celebrated their 2 year anniversary last night. I didn't make that party but I went tonight with my buddy, Kickstand, who is in town. We went to Madahos and starting tonight they raised the entrance price for guys to 30 pesos per drink. The chica drinks are still at 50 pesos but this is still disturbing that it is now more expensive to enter Madahos than Black. I just drink bottled water so a 30 peso glass of water is steep.
Most of the girls were not good tonight. In fact, you could argue aweful. I spotted one blonde that was an angel. Model type. Literally. She is a model in her country. I didn't know if it was the truth or not until we got to my apartment and she showed me a website from a fashion show and there were tons of pictures of her. Anyway, I had a great session. I haven't sessioned in Madahos since I moved here but had to celebrate seeing my good friend again.
Bobby wasn't working tonight but if he isn't working you can tell them you are a friend of Gabrielle (another waiter) and he said they will waive the cover for you too. This is a good strategy if you just want to see the action and then leave. Try to tip these bartenders if you can. I'm on a limited budget but I'll never stop tipping these guys. For the most part they are really great and make very little and only on tips so be good to them. I've been with some guys that don't leave anything and it makes me never want to hang out with them again. One time these dudes invited me out. I thought I'd be nice and go with them even though I didn't really want to because it's expensive for me. Long story short, they didn't tip the waiter and I ended up spending my own money to tip for all their drinks. Not cool. If you can afford to come to these type of places, you can at least afford to leave a decent tip. JMHO.
We did leave Madahos to see what the downtown clubs had to offer. I never see anything worth pulling out of Hook's, Ness, Cattos, etc. In fact, I thought most of them were damn scarey. Oh well. We went back to Madahos so I could talk to my blondie. She had a great personality and was really funny. She was really great and she left her phone number on my bedside table when she left, so I probably will hook up with her at some point again in the future.
Anyway, I doubt I'll pull out of Madahos much but there always are those special occasions.
Hi guys wondering if some of you can help me out.
I arrived in BA late last night, and was supposed to have spent the last week planning my trip to BA. But have instead been distracted by the charms of Rio.
If any of you are planning on making any excursions to any of the bars or clubs tonight, I would really appreciate it if I could come along.
If you can just hit me with a PM this afternoon with a time, a place or a telephone number, and I´ll be there!
City Angel
Go to mansion party on Saturday night - great way to hook up with fellow mongers !!
Just caught a Madahos chica from BA double mailing me and another monger. Pretty funny. She mistakenly mailed me with another guys name in the salution. Its going to be fun to watch her try and explain this....
Report on Nuevo Estilo Boliche on Saturday Night
The place was packed on Saturday night and I chanced to meet one Malena (who was sent over to sit in my lap by Dickhead who then proceded to tell me she had picked me out of all the men in the place. Even if it was a damn lie, it was enjoyable. )
The initial attraction of Malena is that she strongly resembles the immortal Laura, the blond cheerleader and wild woman who was dismissed from Nuevo Estilo for being too wild and crazy.
Malena is five inches taller, with the same striking blond hair and pigtails. She is not crazy, but is very amiable and so a trip to the hotel was negotiated for 150 p. and Dickhead and two friends were left to the winds of fate. Malena's service was very good, with dfk, daty, cbj (fairly standard at NEB) and the rest
but no anal. After she was very cuddly and friendly until the hour was up. I would repeat. She does have a number of tattos, so if that is a turn off, she is not the one for you.
I did have a problem with the hotel we went to. In the past the girls used the hotel around the corner and across the street, that hotel had small rooms, but nice showers and was very much like a good love hotel. The one we went to was around the corner and on the same side of the street across the street from the one mentioned above. The rooms were much larger, but the bathrooms were small and although the bed was clean and nicely done, the floor was dirty. Also the halls had a number of men walking about with brooms and mops who were evidently working there, but should not have been seen. They probably would make a new person feel pretty uneasy. Also, there was a knock on the door too early and she called down to complain. I would not return to that hotel and will make that clear to the management of NEB.
Malena indicated that they were no longer using the original hotel. That may have been baloney or not.
Saint, that sucks to hear that Madaho's is charging 30 pesos now. It was just 20 pesos 6 months back. Combine that with the fact that I couldn't get any girl to go below 300 pesos is a deal killer for me. All this puts it in Blacks range and when all is said and done, Blacks is better. Madahos is just not worth going to anymore as far as I'm concerned.
I like the downtown clubs. The talent is definitely not up to the Recoleta clubs in terms of looks for the most part, but you can still find a jewel. More importantly the girls there still think 150-200 pesos is the right price. I think it's really what atmosphere you like. Madaho's and Blacks is more dance club like. The downtown clubs are more old fashion neighborhood dive.
The apartments are the way to go. For the price of one Madaho's girl, you can go to the apartments and get three doubles from two girls that could easily work at Madaho's.
Justgotback,
I totally agree with you. Like I said. I rarely pull girls out of Madahos anymore. Sometimes when a friend is in town I'll go with them to look and I'll just have ONE water and chat with the girls. Some of them have given me their phone numbers but many of them I find won't give you their number unless you leave with them at least one time. My friends asked a few girls and they didn't give them their numbers.
Last night the girl I left with asked for 300 pesos and I of course refused. She didn't leave for less than 2 hours so I couldn't get an hour rate. I paid 250 pesos for about 3 hours which she said is the absolute lowest she would go and I believe her. The thing to do when you can't get them down on price is to negotiate more time. It's marketing 101. They have a fixed number in their head so as long as they get close to it they are happy. If you're getting more time it's not too bad of a price, all things considered. She was the only hot girl in there as far as I'm concerned.
Most girls from Black I can still negotiate down to 300 pesos for a few hours so really they are about the same price now. Madahos is making a killing. They have to be making much more than Black now. I still think the overall quality of girls is better at Black.
There might be a "jewel" to be found in the downtown clubs but so far all I have seen is "coal". I've tried it a number of times since coming down with various friends in town and each and every time most girls I wouldn't leave with for free. I guess that's just me. We all have our certain types and I guess I just can't find it in the downtown clubs.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sex is a supply and demand type business. As long as there are guys willing to pay the prices, the girls won't back down on their prices. That is the way it has always been and the way it will always be.
Exon Reporting: This News From Saint Is Very Troubleing.
I consider myself to be a Buenos Aires veteran having made my first trip to Argentina before the devaluation of the peso almost three years ago.
Being the despicable Monger that I am, (In DickHeads Class), I had fallen it love with the girls I'd seen on varrious websites including Escorts-Argentina and others. I had to go, for too me as an American it was impossable for working girls to be as beautiful as they appeared on the web.
It was the the 9-11-01 attacks in New York that sealed my fate as the airfare dropped to $500 round trip. So armed with $5,000 dollars in USD cash my 10 day solo trip began.
I had a ball, the time of my life in the most fabulouse city in the world I'd ever been too. I fell in love with Buenos Aires, its culture and of course its women. But the 5 grand I took with me had disappered leaving only plesant memories. B.A. was a little pricey even for big shot mongers such as myself.
Then the delaluation some three months later and instantly Argentina became the mongers meca offering world class service at a fraction of the cost of Mexico, Europe, and other famous world class monger destinations.
This same devaluation has made it possiable for many fellow hard core mongers to move to Buenos Aires and enjoy the good life at a fraction of the price it would cost to be here in sex prison. ( You fellow Mongers know who you are ).
Exon is worried, Were watching inflation creap which effects the affordabilty of Mongering in the most beautiful city with the nices't people in the world.
Each time I return I find that steak in my favorite restaurants a few peso's more, the taxi ride just a little more, the hotel just a few dollars more. Inflation creap.
The price of pussy is a true benchmark of inflation in Buenos Aires. For example, Cafe Orleans my favorite day time hang out, it used to be you could have any girl in the place for $150 pesos, now their quoteing $200. Sure I still have some old friends that will still do me for $150, but for the most part any new relationship is going to cost $200 peso's.
This news about Madaho's is particularly troubleing as I remember two years ago when mens drinks were $20 peso's and 90% of the girls were For Sale for $150 peso's. Even the Super Stars could only command $200 pesos for multiple hours of bliss, sometimes LTN for that kind of money.
Yes this is Recoleta but were seeing it all over town. Course we can still negociate in places like Excedra & New Port with independant's and semi pro's. But over all the price of pussy has gone up. ( reminds me of a story. In the early 1970's I was in a cat house in Wells Nevada durning the gas embargo. The gal I was negociating with quoted some strange new prices. I said "why so high", she came back and stated " Ass And Gas Have Gone Up In Price"). Maybe history is repeating it self.
Anyway Im troubled by Saints report regarding Madaho's. Madaho's being a benchmark or staple of the Mongering world in B.A. and here were looking at 50% precent price increases in about two years, Outrageous.
And Moreover, in my humble option, the talent in Madaho's is not what it was two years ago, yet their commanding $300 pesos and for the most part getting it. Thats $100 US Dollars. Even Jackson admitts to paying $200 pesos in their.
Its no wonder that reputable Mongers such as DickHead, The Mouse and others won't even go to Recoleta.
Some Thoughts By Exon
Are these price increases merely reflecting the overall recovery in the Argentine economy since the days of the devaluation ? It sounds like it. Low prices have attracted mongers, who have effectively bid up the price of chicas and steaks. If the economy continues to improve, the prices will continue to increase. Thinking about it, as I write, why would the economy not improve from here on ?
Would be interested in the comments of the learned gentlemen who read this forum.
Well, I don't know about Black (never been there) or Madaho's (went there once) but I think I get some pretty fine pussy in BA for around 125 pesos. Like Rafaela, Michaela, Barbara, and Jhana from Catto's. Or Lorena from Ness. Or Yesica from Hook. Or Araceli from Exedra. But maybe I am wrong.
Exon,
Yep. The cost of coming here is definitely going up. You'll find that some hotels have raised their prices or are in the middle of raising their prices. Some hotels are planning on raising their rates up to 50% soon. The simple reason is that there are plenty of tourists here and more on their way. Buenos Aires is actively promoting tourism around the world. I read in a local paper that they want to try to increase tourism by over 40% in the next few years. Their main targets are Chile, Brazil, USA, Canada and all of Europe and Asia.
Just the other night I was in a popular Recoleta restaurant with HobbyinHouston. They had a singer and she went around the entire restaurant asking where everyone was from. The restaurant was packed. Believe it or not, we were the only Americans in the entire restaurant. The rest were from Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and Europe. It's not just more Americans that are coming here. It's everyone.
Sometimes mongers think we are such a huge number. We might be a sizeable amount of people but it is very very small compared to just ordinary businessmen and other tourists coming to Buenos Aires. This isn't a town like Rio where the locals just assume if you are middle aged, not traveling with your wife that you are a monger. That isn't the case here and I love Buenos Aires for that.
You guys can try to "boycott" places like Madahos or Black but IMHO, it will do very little good. Go to Black or Madahos on any given night. It's NOT filled with tons of Americans. It's filled with locals. That's the reason why it's so dead on Saturdays. Madahos and Black are a 'cheaters' hangout. Many locals come here after work during the week. Black is mostly comprised of wealthy locals and businessmen staying at the Alvear Palace.
I've been coming here very often the past 2.5 years. I definitely see a trend and I think that trend will continue. Buenos Aires is still a relatively affordable destination but you have to factor in the costs of an expensive airplane ticket, hotels/apartments, dining out, etc.
It does bother me a little that mongering is more expensive but I don't monger too much like you guys so it doesn't affect me too much. The people here are still some of the friendliest in the world. Just today, Kickstand and I were having lunch at Grant's in Recoleta. An elderly lady asked me where the ice cream was. She was surprised that I could understand her and she asked if I lived here. I told her I do now but that I am American. Kick Stand was next to me and she smiled and told us how we were such beautiful Americans. It's that kind of feeling that I love about being in Buenos Aires. You just don't get that in many parts of the world. That's the reason I'm living in this city. Not for the sex.
I also agree with you about the quality across the board. Not just in the Recoleta clubs but in all the clubs here in Buenos Aires. The quality has steadily gone down over the years. MANY girls have headed to Europe or Mexico City. Just today, an amiga from Madahos called me. She is coming here in a little bit to my apartment and will go out to dinner with Kick Stand and I. She told me how this foreigner is taking 8 of the hottest girls from Madahos and flying them next week to Cancun, Mexico to work until December. She is included in these 8 girls. This isn't just a one time occurence. This will happen more and more.
Guys might complain about the price of sessions here but in the grand scheme of things, it's still not expensive compared to other areas in the world. Most of these girls will easily get $300 US per hour in Cancun. Trust me. I can speak from experience.
The thing of it is...you guys couldn't expect prices to stay so low forever. There still are affordable places. Read Dickhead's posts. He seems to find good value. I'm just not sure how the quality is. I've tried some of the places he goes to and just can't find what I'm looking for the times I have been there.
Exon Reporting: DickHead I would appreciate a few comments from You as our resident Economist regarding Jack Daniels post.
I personally blame it on President Bush and his policy of letting the dollar go to hell against the Euro in order to save the US economy so he can be relected.
Remembering that the Peso was pegged against the dollar but most of the money spent in Argentina is from Europe. And the Euro has been kicking the dollar's ass for sometime now.
Exon
Well Jack Daniels,
My objective and experienced opinion is that we are our worse enemies. We (not me) arrive in paradise from sex prison with worthless Gringas and go nuts with the beauties in Baires and give them pretty much what they want. Ya know what? I think I ma underpaid by about 200k a year, but I cannot and do not get it. The chicks need to be brought down to earth. When a cab driver makes 700 to 1000 pesos a month after expenses, and raises a family on this income, that 100 dollar an hour or even all night long piece of ass, is totally ludicrous.
Like I have said many times before, I met a solid 9.5 at Newport last summer and had great honeymoon sex all night long till noon for 150 pesos. THAT is even high by my standards but not nearly so rediculous.
Ok now guys, remember, this is just the opinion of Latina Addict and in no way reflects the opinions of the man Jackson. Although, I know for a fact Mr. J himself is EXTREMELY upset about what some of us did to some of his ex favorite boliches by raising the prices.
Latina Addict
Saint,
You have only been in B.A. for 6 weeks. Give yourself a chance to catch up on your mongering. Once your businesses are up and running so should your mongering. Don't despair just yet. You set the bar pretty high for most of us out here over the last 2 years. Few of us could keep pace with your " carousing " thoughout the world. You were non stop. A 6 week break is a good thing!
I expect that you will be back in your old form in a few short months.
Starfe
Starfe,
You know me better than probably anyone. Maybe you are right. While I don't see myself "hobbying" too much, when it comes down to it I love having sex with various gorgeous model quality girls. I always have and I suspect I always will. That's why I don't consider myself a good candidate for ever getting married.
It's very easy for me to meet normal beautiful girls here. My biggest problem is that I get bored easily and let's face it. These hobby girls can be pretty exciting. Also, some of the hottest non-pros here are even higher maitenance, believe it or not, than US girls. We'll see what happens. Stay tuned....
Saint
P.S. Latina Addict, you can't compare what a taxi driver makes or any other type of job to what these girls make. Once a "taxi driver" starts to make you feel as good as one of these girls makes you feel then you can start comparing what each one makes. (And if that happens I'd be really scared..ha, ha). Some of you forget that these girls have a really tough job. Yes, it is a job. You can't compare what the typical wage is for a worker vs. one of these girls working. Honestly, if we were one of these girls working in one of these clubs we would charge as damn much as we could get as well. Just something to think about...
Inflation is almost zero in Argentina. Rise is chica-prices is due to an increased tourism/ foreigner mongering.
The prices for chicas where very low 2002-2003 but now they have reached their "normal" level. The Argentine economy has stabilised. There still exist inflation, but it is due to secondary-factors like taxes, increased costs for imports etc.. The important thing is that the underlaying inflation in the economy is at a level that predicts almost pricestability. This is at an macroeconomic level. But it should follow that prices for personal services, which are mainly exposed to the Argentines', like restaurants, taxi, sex etc..should be stabilised.
Mongers should consider the above basic facts. But chica price might have risen for tourists as an effect of our much more frequent visits to Argentina since the devaluation. Our respond to this must be to join the local boards at Yahoo and Bairesgirls(...and maybe there are more of thoose). I have followed the boards at Yahoo and Bairesgirls and I can not agree with the idea that the prices continue to rice. Macroeconomic facts still tells us that the unemployment rate is very high and that wages do not increase much at all. Fellow mongerers- DO NOT PANIC. Argentina seems to have gained pricestability at an exchange-level that is very favourable for foreigners. Look at http://www.indec.gov.ar/ for more information.
My advise for not going right into tourist traps are;
1. Learn spanish at least basic level.
2. This will bring you a new dimension of the mongering scene in Baires which gives you access to the information how to find young good looking girls at prices still very low.
Chicas have learned through the Latin Chica Network to pull up prices for foreigners. With the right information you can aviod the most obvious tourist traps.
I hopes this helps,
Decamerone
Saint,
you said >>>That's why I don't consider myself a good candidate for ever getting married.<<<
oh no!! don't say that!! I have (among everyone else here) have the same problem!!!:)
I agree with you all who have said that the quality is decreasing in BA. My first trip 2.5 years ago, I was walking around with my mouth hanging open. But now, the girls you settle for were the ones you wouldn't give the time of day to before. There were much hotter girls around. Sure you can still find the occassional 10, but it's far and few in between. What has kept me coming was that it was cheap compared to other places in the world. But know, with the price creep, high flight prices, higher hotels, etc, etc. It's just not what it once was. My tastes run toward the European ideal of beauty. And many places in Europe are a good alternative again. What with the bar fee and the 300 pesos price, that's about as much as an hour with a absolutely hot girl in Edinburgh who would be just as friendly and wild. In fact the wildest girls I've been with have been Scottish. The only part that sucks is that it's fun to hang around BA while not in bed. Scotland, is a little less exciting.
I'm thinking about going to Rio this time instead. I've never been there before and from what the people say in the Rio thread, it's still reasonable.
JustgotBack,
Yep. I've always been straight. The sex scene in BA is not the greatest anymore. It's still good but not what it was. That's the God's honest truth. I also consider the European bombshell type to be the most beautiful girl.
Rio sex scene beats BA hands down. No questions. Especially with the termas. The internet girls in Rio are not as good, IMHO but you have Help Disco which can be pretty amazing but I hear that prices have crept up there too.
Europe is expensive but there still is some value in places like Prague where I found some hot girls in apartments. Lugano, Switzerland is a very expensive town but had some of the hottest girls out of any club I've been to in the world. Many Brasileras and girls from Russia, Hungary, Czech Republic, Colombia, Italy and even Argentina. I loved the variety. I posted a trip report in that section. But it isn't the city you go to if you're only looking for sex.
BA is still BA though. There will always be some action here but I think the glory days from right after the devaluation are gone forever. While everyone is complaining about the prices for sex here the hottest girls are still leaving because they can make much more in other places.
Beating the Golden Goose to Death,
Just don't blame me for any of the girls leaving. I always pay the the fair market price ( maybe 25 u.s. more a pop ). All this nickel and diming by so many posters here has helped to ruin the market. So many of you who are beating these girls down for a few pesos have been killing it for the rest of us. It works both ways. I am so sick and tired of reading about how cheap someone paid to get laid. You make US look like the cheap whores. For those still chasing price all the time, Bangledesh is wide open for you.
A little more generousity would keep more girls in town but most of you are just to stupid to think ahead.
In Italy they have a nickname for you're type
" SHIT FOR BRAINS "
Starfe
Hi, Guys:
I'm not going to be in Buenos Aires from September,23rd to October,5th.
So for the translation service/ the appointments with the girls, you'll need to contact Mayra at MY CELL. PHONE: 155 103 3905, I will leave it with her.
You can email me, I will check my emails once a day. But for appts. while I'm not there it will be better for you to call Mayra at my cell. phone directly.
Kisses, Roxana.
Starfe:
I don't think that girls looked for greener pastures because of foreigners bargaining. Visitors still encomprise a very small fraction of mongers, being the locals the mainstream source.
Andres
Andres,
On my flight back in July there were 8 guys in first class who went down on a hunting trip for birds. All big dollar guys who were pullling girls out of Blacks and the other joint ( 2 or 3 per person ). They make this trip 4 times a year. A lot of it has to do with the girls. These are not posters . I would not under estimate the buying power of the visiting foreigner. This was just 1 group. I assume there are many more like them coming from the United States. I would like to think that helps to balance out those that pay per minute. You need the high rollers in every city. It also keeps the girls off balance knowing they could hit a jackpot at any given moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a side note; I used to watch my father buy me callgirls at the Desert Inn in Vegas while he played Bacarat. I was a mere 18 at the time ( 69-72 my college years ). Now that's what I call shopping.
I just used to " point and click "
Starfe
Starfe,
You are right about the need for high rollers: it works out the same in any society. I have sat amongst some real players: serious money, on a flight to Paris so I know what you mean. There are pros and cons here, but in the final analysis people will spend what they want. One mans $50 is another mans$5 and so the world turns.
Whilst at college, my father brought a pack of condoms for me and asked me if I knew what they were and how to use them. He added that all he wanted me to bring back form college was my education: grandchildren could wait. You are one lucky man with a father such as yours!
Regards,
Havanaman
". . . All this nickel and diming by so many posters here has helped to ruin the market. So many of you who are beating these girls down for a few pesos have been killing it for the rest of us"
Paying $50,000 for a car with a $25,000 list price isn't being generous. You are merely viewed as a "Chump" by the salesman and instead of generating respect and appreciation, you get more distain. What most people suggest here is to know the market and the going market price. Be fair, but over-paying makes little sense and I have seen it lead to worse service and attitude. As Jackson and others have pointed out repeatedly, there is no real connection between price and service. The under 100 peso girl is just as likely to provide great service as a 300 peso girl. The "Rich American Chump" or Sugar-Daddy syndrome is worse for the vast majority of mongers than being too cheap. Try to use a little charm, personal attention and a fair market price instead of relying only on a fat wallet. The results are usually better . . . Just my 2 cents.
Peace -P