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[QUOTE=BigBossMan;436395]You quote Piers Morgan as if he is some kind of moral authority so who is worshiping who? I have heard the name but I am not quite sure who Piers Morgan is and why I should listen to him.[/QUOTE]BBM I have no use for Piers Morgan what so ever, but to point out when a progressive / liberal such as Morgan begins trashing ACA and Obama calling Obama's statements a "barefaced lie" I find that pretty starling.
If you are under any employer sponsored medical plans, you can hum loudly. If you are under Medicare, you can hum, even sing. If you do not have a job, you can hum somewhat out of tune (no job), but because under poverty provisions, you can qualify for subsidized medical insurance. If you are live out of the country, you can either croak or hum because ACA does not apply to you. And your financial & health condition will dictate your humming.
There will be changes insofar as HMOs & insurance companies are still scratching their ass & crotch over the fact that their Mafia business practices will be affected. But then, their new generation of Ivy League managers will see that there is still alot of money still to be made, rather than going into loan sharking, kidnapping or drug dealing. Just ask Jamie Dimon.
Then the humming will get louder, from your unfaithful ex-spouse, your good-for-nothing kids, and your disloyal friends. Your dog might even start humming since you are not kicking him as much.
Yes, it is a big change, somewhat, like a mid-life crisis for a sick America. But a necessary change. As for my boring life, it is the same boring medical coverage. A coverage I hope I never have to use, at least sparingly. You know what I mean.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;436414]BBM I have no use for Piers Morgan what so ever, but to point out when a progressive / liberal such as Morgan begins trashing ACA and Obama calling Obama's statements a "barefaced lie" I find that pretty starling.[/QUOTE]Piers Morgan is no different from Hannity or 90% of talk show hosts. They will say anything for ratings. They will sell their mothers. Every program, they will have certain sensational talking points, program for impact. Any guest that can make any headway towards thwarting that format will get interrupted repeatedly and asked questions that will not allow any context to be given. "Controversial" is the catchword for modern media, negativity is to be milked to the fullest.
So the question, does Obama lie more than any other politician? 5%, 50%?
[QUOTE=Jackson;436411]The problem is that the incurably stupid people vote, and in fact "the stupids" can be counted on to vote solely for whatever party promises to give them the most free money, regardless of whether that money has to be borrowed from the Chinese and someday repaid by their grandchildren.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%. Not only are we looking at financial Armageddon some day if we can't bring entitlements under control, but many people are better off without the free money. They would lead happier, more fulfilled lives.
The original post several pages ago involved WT69. I believe WT69 is smarter than your average lefty. He does see potential wisdom in some libertarian positions, like a flat tax. And, if he's retired and has no children or grandchildren in the USA, he does stand to benefit personally from Obama's policies. Contrast to the youth of America, who overwhelmingly voted for Obama, even though he's going to leave them with a huge debt to pay.
...sound like a broken record.
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Guess What A Republican Governor Wanted It.
Arnold S.
It Works. I am Saving Money.
Yes, There are some WEB some Problems on the Total states signup. The states that refused to have their States sign up for it in the First place are the problem..
The states that that signed up for it from the start have only a few problems.
Maybe your Political Party does not want you have Health Care. Or they want you to pay more for your Health Care Insurance.
The states that are working for the people have a few problems.
Tres3 What state do you live in?
[QUOTE=Tres3;436413]I am for universal health care, but the ACA handling by Obama and his Administration is a case study in incompetence. They were running the largest start-up in history, and they did not have anyone on the team who had run a start-up, or a business. Instead they had a bunch of politicians whose priority was a fear of the GOP. With that cast of characters, implementation of a law that was over 2000 pages long was doomed to failure from the get go. We suspected that Obama was incompetent, but the ACA implementation proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Tres3.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackShirt;436416]Piers Morgan is no different from Hannity or 90% of talk show hosts. They will say anything for ratings. They will sell their mothers. Every program, they will have certain sensational talking points, program for impact. Any guest that can make any headway towards thwarting that format will get interrupted repeatedly and asked questions that will not allow any context to be given. "Controversial" is the catchword for modern media, negativity is to be milked to the fullest.
So the question, does Obama lie more than any other politician? 5%, 50%?[/QUOTE]Amen brother. Its all about the ratings and the advertising dollar. The ideology "debates" and polemics are only intended to fire up the viewers. No different these days from sports talk radio.
Ed Schultz, of the Ed Show, MSBCTV asked Sean Hannity on FOX to have a discussion together.
Hannity will not have any talks with anyone that does not have his same point of view.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436424]Ed Schultz, of the Ed Show, MSBCTV asked Sean Hannity on FOX to have a discussion together.
Hannity will not have any talks with anyone that does not have his same point of view.[/QUOTE]Not true!
Hannity has had Libertarian Penn Jillette on, who on many many issues is different (Better) than Hannity...
Libertarian is better than Republican.
[QUOTE=SilverStar;436428]Not true!
Hannity has had Libertarian Penn Jillette on, who on many many issues is different (Better) than Hannity...
Libertarian is better than Republican.[/QUOTE]Where he can control the talk flow. At any sign of the talk not going his way, a timely commercial break can always happen. And I heard Hannity when pressed by Juan Williams, kind of muttered under his breath, " I'm not Republican". Not surprisingly, Juan Williams did not jump in and press the issue, they all feed from the same trough. Yes, a very good materialistic life do this people have, and they sleep very well, too. Thank you very much.
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Yes, There are some WEB some Problems on the Total states signup. The states that refused to have their States sign up for it in the First place are the problem..
The states that that signed up for it from the start have only a few problems.
[/QUOTE]Yes, as DCCPA pointed out, good state and local governments do things much better than the federal government. Government closer to the people works better. This would include designing web sites for insurance exchanges. So why not let the states do everything? If Massachusetts wants Romneycare, it can have it. If another state wants a system where there's a truly a free market in health care, with transparency and competition in setting prices, it could try it, if some modifications were made to Medicare and Medicaid. Then maybe the best systems could be copied and spread to other states. Or people could vote with their feet, like they are now for other reasons when they leave states like New York and California and migrate to Arizona, Texas, etc.
There is an article in Sunday's paper written by Robert Reich talking about the same thing.
Originally the Democrats wanted to graft health care into Social Security and Medicare, but republicans did not want that.
They supported private health insurers.
Under Nixon in 1974 he proposed what is the same as the Affordable Car Act.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;436430]Yes, as DCCPA pointed out, good state and local governments do things much better than the federal government. Government closer to the people works better. This would include designing web sites for insurance exchanges. So why not let the states do everything? If Massachusetts wants Romneycare, it can have it. If another state wants a system where there's a truly a free market in health care, with transparency and competition in setting prices, it could try it, if some modifications were made to Medicare and Medicaid. Then maybe the best systems could be copied and spread to other states. Or people could vote with their feet, like they are now for other reasons when they leave states like New York and California and migrate to Arizona, Texas, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436431]There is an article in Sunday's paper written by Robert Reich talking about the same thing.[/QUOTE]Robert Reich is a communist.
[QUOTE=Jackson;436432]Robert Reich is a communist.[/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us how you really feel about Robert Reich? LOL.
Tres3.
[QUOTE=Jackson;436432]Robert Reich is a communist.[/QUOTE]Worse than that he is a Democrat. At least Communists are honest about their intentions.
Don B