American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[QUOTE=Punter127;436478]There has been no switch of racism from one party to the other, that just BS!

Daddy do you want me to go on, do you really want to have this discussion?[/QUOTE]Honestly no, I only meant that remark in terms of progressive / conservative not specific platform issues or any idea of transferred racism. You know me hoss, I think they all fucking suck. I wasn't meaning to draw this into a debate, I really couldn't possibly care less. At the start I was just asking a question about that guy because I was curious. Apologies for any ruffled feathers bubba.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;436483]Honestly no, I only meant that remark in terms of progressive / conservative not specific platform issues or any idea of transferred racism. You know me hoss, I think they all fucking suck. I wasn't meaning to draw this into a debate, I really couldn't possibly care less. At the start I was just asking a question about that guy because I was curious. Apologies for any ruffled feathers bubba.[/QUOTE]You better know your stuff, and make sure you comb your hair.(smile)

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;436483]Honestly no, I only meant that remark in terms of progressive / conservative not specific platform issues or any idea of transferred racism. You know me hoss, I think they all fucking suck. I wasn't meaning to draw this into a debate, I really couldn't possibly care less. At the start I was just asking a question about that guy because I was curious. Apologies for any ruffled feathers bubba.[/QUOTE]Ok Daddy maybe I'm the one reading between the lines now, but the relentless efforts by Democrats to shift their racist past to the Republicans, buy saying: "the parties switched sides", is the reason I responded the way I did. I'm just tired of being labeled a racist buy members of a racist party. Sorry if I misinterpreted you.

Maybe he should be more left, the stock market went UP, UP, UP.

All time HIGH!!

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;436466]Well maybe if you got the federal alphabet soup of agencies off everyone's back that might happen. [b][u]As long as Obama keeps pushing the country left there is no incentive for business to expand.[/b][/u]

I guarantee you paying people NOT TO WORK is not the answer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Punter127;436486]Ok Daddy maybe I'm the one reading between the lines now, but the relentless efforts by Democrats to shift their racist past to the Republicans, buy saying: "the parties switched sides", is the reason I responded the way I did. I'm just tired of being labeled a racist buy members of a racist party. Sorry if I misinterpreted you.[/QUOTE]I don't follow the thread or I would have been more specific. No blood no foul.

You doing ok? I'm seeing news about the typhoon.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;436488]I don't follow the thread or I would have been more specific. No blood no foul.

You doing ok? I'm seeing news about the typhoon.[/QUOTE]I'm doing fine, we're in Indonesia so not a problem for us. The main storm missed Cebu City, I talked with my GF in Cebu and with Stowe (who rode out the storm) and they said we have no damage at the condo. We were very lucky had I been in Cebu before the storm I would have left, I avoid trouble whenever I can. Thanks for asking.

BTW you ready to go back and talk about Obamacare...LOL.

I was there a few years ago, me and my buddies had to get out of Mindoro.

A Typhoon was kicking the water up, big time.

Now its 175 miles to 180 mph wind, does not happen Very Often.

Must be Climate Change!!

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/strongest-typhoon-slams-philippines-214339268.html;_ylt=AwrSyCOd1n1SaQQAf8bQtDMD[/URL]

Do you believe in the Tea Party? Or the Right Wing Republicans? They Think There is No Climate Change. Dumb! What Test Tube are they in?

P.S. What Health Care Do You have, Punter?
My Health Care Will Cover Me, does Yours?


[QUOTE=Punter127;436489]I'm doing fine, we're in Indonesia so not a problem for us. The main storm missed Cebu City, I talked with my GF in Cebu and with Stowe (who rode out the storm) and they said we have no damage at the condo. We were very lucky had I been in Cebu before the storm I would have left, I avoid trouble whenever I can. Thanks for asking.

BTW you ready to go back and talk about Obamacare...LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Punter127;436489]I'm doing fine, we're in Indonesia so not a problem for us. The main storm missed Cebu City, I talked with my GF in Cebu and with Stowe (who rode out the storm) and they said we have no damage at the condo. We were very lucky had I been in Cebu before the storm I would have left, I avoid trouble whenever I can. Thanks for asking.

BTW you ready to go back and talk about Obamacare...LOL.[/QUOTE]Gald everybody is ok. I didn't know that perv Stowe was over there.

Obamacare isn't part of my world, I'm a lifetime VA guy. (I made it with 18 days to spare when I enlisted).

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436464]The guys are going to start creating jobs soon.

Remember those ones that are getting big tax breaks to create jobs.[/QUOTE]Maybe the Wall Street guys who made over a billion in free money on Twitter last week will create some jobs. Twitter priced 70 million shares at $26. The stock traded 145 million shares last week in the mid 40's, an automatic 70% gain for shareholders. Most of whom are wealthy investors and hedge funds who had access to the IPO. [B]$1.3 BILLION in instant wealth creation for the wealthy.[/B] And they will pay a lower tax rate on this income than many middle class workers. Republicans told us over and over these tax breaks will lead to job creation by these wealthy "job creators". Imagine how many jobs could be created with $1.3 BILLION. I'm sure there will be an announcement soon.

[QUOTE=Esten;436496]...And they will pay a lower tax rate on this income than many middle class workers.[/QUOTE]Esten, I know you don't have a clue about how business actually functions, but buying an asset is not "[I]income[/I]".

[QUOTE=Esten;436496]Republicans told us over and over these tax breaks will lead to job creation by these wealthy "job creators".[/QUOTE]What "[I]tax breaks[/I]" are you talking about, and when did these Republicans allegedly make these claims?

Oh wait, I get it. You're talking about asset appreciation (aka "Capital Gains") being taxed at a different rate than income. I don't know how many decades ago that was first enacted, but you can't possibly be referring now to any statements made so long ago.

[QUOTE=Esten;436496]Imagine how many jobs could be created with $1.3 BILLION. I'm sure there will be an announcement soon.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the government could piss that money away on "make work" government jobs in no time.

Esten, this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Please try to up your game. There are very few LIVs (Low Information Voters) on this website, and they're all liberals.

Jax.

A concerned citizen named Heather Higgins started a twitter account named @mycancellation for people to post copies of their health insurance cancellation letters.

Within a short time she had more than 1,000 followers.

However, apparently some liberals took notice and enlisted thousands of their like-minded cohorts in a campaign to bombard Twitter with false reports claiming that they were being spammed by @mycancellation.

In response, Twitter quickly suspended the @mycancellation account.

It ceases to impress me how liberals are the first to scream "Freedom of Speech" unless you're saying something to which they do not agree, i.e. Ann Coulter, Raymond Kelly and David Petraeus all recently being shouted down while making public speeches.

[url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=saul+alinsky]Saul Alinsky[/url] would be proud.

Jax

[QUOTE=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/6/twitter-faces-fire-freezing-obamacare-horror-story/]Twitter administrators are facing fire for freezing the account Mycancellation.com, which allowed Americans negatively affected by Obamacare’s rollout to post their stories.

More than 3.5 million people across the nation reportedly have seen their health insurers drop their plans. The Twitter account gave them an outlet to display photographs of their cancellation letters or their notices of rate increases, the Daily Mail reported.

But in a single week’s time, the account was frozen three times — the latest of which occurred Tuesday, absent any email notification, one site creator said, The Daily Mail reported.

Heather Higgins, the president of the Independent Women’s Forum — the group that led the social media campaign — said politics are likely at play.

“Since we haven’t abused any of Twitter’s (seemingly quite subjective) standards, either someone at Twitter objects to the real cost of these ‘liked insurance I wanted to keep’ cancellations being given a human face, or there is an organized campaign by Obamacare-reality-deniers to spam Twitter with false claims of abuse,” Ms. Higgins wrote at Ricochet.com.

Posters on Mycancellation.com have shown letters from 80-plus insurance companies, and most claim the cancellations or rate increases are due to Obamacare, the Daily Mail reported. One poster showed a letter that indicated a rate increase of 299 percent; another, of 315 percent.[/QUOTE]

Today the US Navy christened the aircraft carrier Jerald Ford. I voted for him and I think he was one of the last real Republicans to serv. God I miss the old Republicans. I have read many different amounts quoted of just how much the most recent Republican government shut down cost taxpayers. Most amounts are near the 13 billion that our Navy will spend on the most technologically advanced nuclear carrier the world has ever seen. This ship will lead a squadron of ships that will protect the USA and my former political party just squandered away enough of our money to pay for it. I can not vote for anyone in my party of choice until they grow up. They act like children.

HR.

[QUOTE=HotRod11;436503]Today the US Navy christened the aircraft carrier Jerald Ford.[/QUOTE]It would be pretty funny though considering how Chevy Chase played him on Saturday Night Live it they actually did christen it with exactly this name.

[QUOTE=Jackson;436497]
Oh wait, I get it. You're talking about asset appreciation (aka "Capital Gains") being taxed at a different rate than income. [/QUOTE]Not only does Esten apparently not know what Capital Gains are, he also does not know the difference between Short Term and Long Term Capital Gains. The Twitter Traders, except the owners of hedge funds, made their profits as Short Term Capital Gains and had to pay ordinary tax rates on them. What "tax breaks" did they get? Ordinary income is ordinary income. It is taxed at ordinary income tax rates, whether it is salary or Short Term Capital Gains.

Shooting down Esten is as easy as shooting fish in a rain barrel.

Tres3.

I thought it was interesting that on Friday my investment portfolio hit another all-time high, the day after I got notified I was eligible for the health care subsidy. So now the DOW is up over 50% since we got rid of Bush and his ilk, PLUS I now have affordable health care for the first time since I retired. Now all you righties have to bear in mind that when I retired early, that opened up an opportunity for someone younger, and that opportunity would not have been there had I not retired. So if you get pissed off about subsidizing my health care, find that person who took my job and make him or her pay.

Obama: Good for your portfolio and good for your health.