American Politics during the Obama Presidency

IBM only cancelled it's plan for some retirees. It was replaced by an alternative. There is no evidence this move was due to ACA itself and would not have happened otherwise. From some posts, you'd think the ACA caused employers to cancel all healthcare insurance and leave people out in the cold. That's not the real story.

However, the implementation of ACA provides a convenient excuse for some employers to decrease their healthcare costs, and bank more profits which can be used to support increased dividend payments. Don't think for a second that Wall Street isn't behind the decisions of publically traded companies like IBM and HD to increase profits at the expense of workers.

Tiny I commend you for giving one of the more balanced perspectives from the right. However, you mis-stated one of my points. An IPO is not leeching. The leeching is the billions and billions of interest and dividend payments that individuals and corporations pay to Wall Street every year. In turn, Wall Street mostly uses these funds to play in their rigged casino, further multiplying their profits, the Twitter IPO being one example.

It did not meet the requirement of a good plan!

[U]"In other words, they were only offered only sub-prime coverage, aka shitty coverage.

They should offer new coverage to them, that would give them the best of Health Care coverage.

Gee, why is that so to hard to do? [b] Because Profits do not Allow that!"[/b]

"Dccpa:
Do the Math, it will be Cheaper for the people, than Paul Ryan's Plan.
Where is The Republican Health Care Plan That Will Work for all of Us. Not Just Benefit The Insurance Companies?
They Do Not Have One, why because the party is Split into many fractions. The reason the Tea Party! The know nothing about Politics Party.
Come on Dump Them."[/U]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436578]In other words, they only offered only sub-prime coverage, aka shitty coverage.

They should offer new coverage to them, that gives them the best of Health Care coverage.

Gee, why is that so to hard to do? Profits do not Allow that!

Dccpa:
Do the Math, it will be Cheaper for the people, than Paul Ryan's Plan.
Where is The Republican Health Care Plan That Will Work for all of Us. Not Just Benefit The Insurance Companies?
They Do Not Have One, why because the party is Split into many fractions. The reason the Tea Party! The know nothing about Politics.
Come on Dump Them.[/QUOTE]

PS : Jackson: Sorry I Edited This So Many Times.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;436574]Just apply it to ACA, the Captain is already adjusting the sails. If I was the captain, the mutineers would be walking the plank![/QUOTE]There is little doubt in my mind as to what you personally would do. As for the "Captains" adjustment of the sails, I find it reminiscent of the adjustments made by the Captain of the Titanic, unfortunately also like the Titanic it's to little and to late. To complicate matters even more what the "Captain" just did has a little Constitution problem, you do remember that dusty old thing called the Constitution don't you? Well "The Take Care Clause of the Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what Obama did Thursday.

[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Obama-s-Fix-is-Unconstitutional[/URL]

[QUOTE=Punter127;436584]There is little doubt in my mind as to what you personally would do. As for the "Captains" adjustment of the sails, I find it reminiscent of the adjustments made by the Captain of the Titanic, unfortunately also like the Titanic it's to little and to late. To complicate matters even more what the "Captain" just did has a little Constitution problem, you do remember that dusty old thing called the Constitution don't you? Well "The Take Care Clause of the Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what Obama did Thursday.

[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Obama-s-Fix-is-Unconstitutional[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, the great and illustrious Howard Dean, we shall see. But it was never about health care with you, anyway.

[b]There's a lot of things you don't know![/b][QUOTE=BlackShirt;436585]Yes, the great and illustrious Howard Dean, we shall see. But it was never about health care with you, anyway.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is it was never about health care with you. It's power, control, an agenda, and nannyism.

[QUOTE=Punter127;436586][b]There's a lot of things you don't know![/b]Funny thing is it was never about health care with you. It's power, control, an agenda, and nannyism.[/QUOTE]I will wait till tomorrow to look in the mirror. For you, I would advise otherwise, the mirror might crack. You are priceless.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;436587]I will wait till tomorrow to look in the mirror. For you, I would advise otherwise, the mirror might crack.[/QUOTE]Thanks, when you look in that mirror tomorrow remind yourself that you still have insurance and I don't, see how pretty you are then.

This insurance policy may be worth a look if, like me, you're losing yours at the end of the year. I just signed up for it:

Blue Choice Gold PPO 001 offered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

The policy provides out of network and international coverage. Their network is very large and includes first class hospitals, for example, Hospital Aleman in Buenos Aires. And Johns Hopkins, M D Anderson, etc.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;436596]This insurance policy may be worth a look if, like me, you're losing yours at the end of the year. I just signed up for it:

Blue Choice Gold PPO 001 offered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

The policy provides out of network and international coverage. Their network is very large and includes first class hospitals, for example, Hospital Aleman in Buenos Aires. And Johns Hopkins, M D Anderson, etc.[/QUOTE]Now that you found an alternative health plan, how does it compare with your old plan, and it's impact on you. Come on, do us a public service. People are hungry for 1st hand experience with ACA.

Any Bangkok hospitals on the list? Yeah, I know, do your own legwork, but since you are here, er, do us a favor.

[QUOTE=BlackShirt;436597]Now that you found an alternative health plan, how does it compare with your old plan, and it's impact on you. Come on, do us a public service. People are hungry for 1st hand experience with ACA.

Any Bangkok hospitals on the list? Yeah, I know, do your own legwork, but since you are here, er, do us a favor.[/QUOTE]Bumrungrad is on the list. Have a look for others: [URL]https://www.bluecardworldwide.com/index.cfm?[/URL].

I think I will like it better than my old plan. Actually my old plan, offered by a professional organization, threw me in with a bunch of sickies (I'm relatively fit) but with no discount so it wasn't the best deal available. However I was too lazy to shop around.

The ACA is not relevant - I could have purchased the Blue Cross policy years ago if I'd known about it.

As to my personal situation, the ACA is a big bummer. The ACA tax when combined with Obama's other tax rate increases have caused me to decide to work less, which means my income is lower. Ironically this means I will pay less tax. Thank you Mr. Obama!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;436598]The ACA tax when combined with Obama's other tax rate increases have caused me to decide to work less, which means my income is lower. Ironically this means I will pay less tax. Thank you Mr. Obama![/QUOTE]Until the marginal tax rate that one pays reaches 100%, work still puts money in your pocket. Granted less work means less tax, but it also means less money left over to spend on chicas. Something tells me there is an ulterior motive behind your "working less", and you are just trying to blame ACA and Obama.

Tres3.

[QUOTE=Tres3;436599]Until the marginal tax rate that one pays reaches 100%, work still puts money in your pocket. Granted less work means less tax, but it also means less money left over to spend on chicas. Something tells me there is an ulterior motive behind your "working less", and you are just trying to blame ACA and Obama.

Tres3.[/QUOTE]There are secondary reasons but no ulterior motive. The primary reason is that I'm fed up and am not going to bust my ass when government is taking 50% of my marginal income. That's the tipping point. One secondary reason is that administrative work, which doesn't make any money, has ballooned in recent years, leaving less time to generate income. A good part of the reason for that is compliance with government regulations. It takes a month or two every year to put together the info to report my taxable income, and they keep coming up with more stupid forms which require additional record keeping and reporting. I don't need or want more money to spend on fucking chicas. I would like more time. Maybe that's a secondary reason too.

Leave the facking Country.

P.S., Oh Yes, another gas line Blew Up in THE GREAT OF STATE OF TEXASS.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;436600]There are secondary reasons but no ulterior motive. The primary reason is that I'm fed up and am not going to bust my ass when government is taking 50% of my marginal income. That's the tipping point. One secondary reason is that administrative work, which doesn't make any money, has ballooned in recent years, leaving less time to generate income. A good part of the reason for that is compliance with government regulations. It takes a month or two every year to put together the info to report my taxable income, and they keep coming up with more stupid forms which require additional record keeping and reporting. I don't need or want more money to spend on fucking chicas. I would like more time. Maybe that's a secondary reason too.[/QUOTE]

Has been stealing my retirement for years, now I have been switched to Blue Shield.

Like I said in the earlier posts, Pick The One that the Republicans don't Want You to Use!

Think about Your Heath Care. Not what the right wingers want, Just what You need and can afford!

Use Your Own Mind, not these jackasses!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;436598]Bumrungrad is on the list. Have a look for others: [URL]https://www.bluecardworldwide.com/index.cfm?[/URL].

I think I will like it better than my old plan. Actually my old plan, offered by a professional organization, threw me in with a bunch of sickies (I'm relatively fit) but with no discount so it wasn't the best deal available. However I was too lazy to shop around.

The ACA is not relevant - I could have purchased the Blue Cross policy years ago if I'd known about it.

As to my personal situation, the ACA is a big bummer. The ACA tax when combined with Obama's other tax rate increases have caused me to decide to work less, which means my income is lower. Ironically this means I will pay less tax. Thank you Mr. Obama![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436602]Use Your Own Mind, not these jackasses![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436601]Leave the facking Country.

P.S., Oh Yes, another gas line Blew Up in THE GREAT OF STATE OF TEXASS.[/QUOTE]You, Esten and President Obama should be more gracious. You won. You've got what you want, a cradle-to-grave nanny state and a sharply progressive income tax.

The USA occupied a position between dynamic economies like Hong Kong and Singapore and "also rans" like France and Italy. The country made its choice and is now pursuing the Western European model. Someday the Federal Reserve will no longer be able to prime the pump, and countries like China will stop financing our profligacy. And the USA will be condemned to a future of stagnant economic growth and low employment.