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Hey..if you really see a hottie on one of those pages try to book with her. We can always use more hotties. My point earlier of some amigos getting scammed wasn't to try to say that all the girls on a site aren't real. It was just buyer beware. In November and December if the clubs suck... I'm gonna be hitting the internet HARD and HEAVY.
I saw a few cuties on those websites. When I call them I'm just gonna be honest. I'll ask them if they are the girl in the picture on the respective website. I'll clearly tell her if she isn't the girl in the picture then I won't want to spend time (or money) with her. Being direct and honest is usually the right approach with escorts no matter the country you're in.
One girl's ad says, "Soy más dulce que la miel, probame..." (I am sweeter than honey, try me...") I might just take her up on her offer and see if she really is!!!
Rickster, I just emailed you. We'll definitely hook up and we'll have some laughs and some hottie chicas....
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not exactly on topic, but i know one of you hardcores here will be able to provide some answers for me...
i'm pretty sure that for the post xmas dates on my late-dec trip to ba i'll take a girl with me to either mdp (have to save mongering in mdp for a future trip...) or puntal del este.
but i don't want to end up spending a ton of money, and i know that up to a year ago, and in the years before that, xmas/newyears time had punta outrageously pricey - like more expensive than nyc or miami (hotels over $200/night, drinks at nice spots over $20 per - s. france in summer type prices)!
it's almost 28 uruguay peso (uyu) to the us$ now - what was it a year ago? i mean, i know the uyu has lost value recently, but 50-80% like the argentine peso? i can't find a say 2-yr graph on the net...
so, given that either place would be a great little multi-day trip for me, but that i know the novia would find punta the more impressive option, how expenive (vs. mdp) is punta given recent financial happenings?
thx!
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Leo:
A year ago, the Uruguayan peso was 11-13 to 1 to the Argentine peso, so Uruguay is a little more expensive than Argentina nowadays.
Punta is usually a place for rich families and heavy social agendas. Perhaps I'm wrong, but not a place for mongering or bringing a cutie during the holidays.
My experience is that, regardless of the economic situation, most girls take off the holidays weeks to visit family and friends (between 12/20 and 1/7). You may find some girls this year, but not as many as during the year.
Respect to gemidos.com.ar, I went to a massage place and took a session with Marixa. She is as beutiful as in the webpage, and no enhancements. The place is suitable for a quicky, not for long and intimate sessions, and I think that managemennt doesn' t allow girls to perform BBBJ (or girls are more adamant in not providing it).
Saint:
Thanks for the Photos.
Andres
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Santaclaus:
Classes start in March, so people return from holidays by the end of February. That said, the city should less crowded in February (slightly less due to recession). Perhaps, no major impact for hobbysts.
Also, during the Easter weekend (thursday thru Sunday) people run away from the city, so watch out when it falls next year so you don't hit the city by then.
Other than that, as usual.
Hope this helps,
Andres
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My input on the racism thread (Sorry it took so long to post, but I've been busy since I got back):
I want to say this because this is something that must be considered when going to a foreign country to get "entertained".
I learned this after a visit to Montreal. My course of action, if on the phone, let them know up front that you're black\asian\whatever. "Soy un ****** negro. Es problema?" If it is....NEXT! That simple. There are plenty of chicas to choose from. If you're first choice has a problem with that, I can almost guarantee you'll find one that won't.
Also, if you're "packing heat" (you know what I mean), you should let them know that up front as well, whatever race you are. Cuts down on the disappointment ratio and the amount of time it takes to convince her that you'll go easy, heh heh.
While in BA, of the 3 internet chicas I saw, no real problems with the race factor. The majority of the ladies I saw were from bars (at least 6), and, obviously, they saw what the deal was right away.
Be up front about what you want, who you are, and what you're packing over the phone and you should have very little trouble.
From my experience, of course.
Kick Stand
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Ive been in BA for about a month (Im from the UK) but have just stumbled on this board - very interesting to hear your take on the situation. Im pleased that most of you seem to treat the girls here in a straightforward and honest way. IMO, a little respect never hurts :)
I particularly appreciate the effort some of you have gone to to contribute - Saint, Otto and others - very interesting reading (and viewing, Sr Saint!) so thanks a lot.
Just wanted to say hi, and thanks,
Easy.
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I visited B.A. in June and August of this year. Below are some comments and observations to some of the previous posts. I am not a regular on the board. So forgive me in advance for this long post. Also, I intend to do only this one post and I am doing it in appreciation of the previous posts from Saint, Otto and others that I read prior to going to B.A. The comments are strictly my opinions from a total of about 16 days in B.A. When I say some girl is an 8-9, I am comparing them to the girls that were working in Blacks and Play women in June. When I was in B.A. in August, I agree with Saint, the quality of the girls in the clubs have dropped considerably. I am not into the number of girls I can get. I am more into quality sessions. I won't discuss the normal bars (Blacks and Play Women) everyone goes to.
Working Bars
In August, one girl I met worked at and invited me to Blandish Club. Unfortunately, this girl recently left to work in Mexico City. Blandish is in Palermo collated with at least two other buildings that are regular dance clubs for the very young crowd. I noticed teenagers and maybe a 19-20 years old crowd going into the other bars. Blandish’ address is Av. Del Libertador 3883, Paseo de la Infanta tel: 4776-4244/4776-4499.
Blandish's management style is similar to Blacks. But, there is a tremendous difference with the girls. There were about 15 girls. The girls I saw that night were average looking, in the 20-24 year old range and down to earth. The entrance fee is 20 pesos. A drink for a girl was 25 pesos. I think the bar fee to take a girl out was 50 pesos (two drink minimum). I was the only gringo in the Blandish. But, I felt very comfortable. I talked to one of the best looking girls there. She was comparable to some of the best-looking girls at Blacks or Play women. She wanted 500 pesos for the whole night. She had previously worked as an escort in Miami and told me I was getting a bargain at 500 pesos. I politely declined her offer. Was she worth 500 pesos for the whole night? In my opinion, comparing her to the ladies in Blacks and Play women, most definitely. But, I had already made arrangements to meet another lady friend. I don't know if this is standard, but the club had its own limo driver that took me back to my hotel for whatever tip I wanted to give the driver.
In June and August, I visited a bar named Salomne. It is located on Cordova I think?. This bar is not Sordoma that's located in Recoleta. The bar is small and has two levels. There was no entrance fee. The men visiting the bar were primarily local professionals. In June there was a really nice group (mostly 7-8, a variety of ladies that would probably meet everyone's taste, real nice bodies, no fake breasts, but, only two I would rate as 9s) of about 20 girls. The girls were dressed in evening gowns or dressed like professionals working in an office environment. I took one girl out of this place for 100 pesos for two hours and there was a forty-peso bar fee (two drink minimum). The session was standard and she was not in a hurry to leave. In August, there were fewer (maybe 10) girls the weeknight I was there. As compared to June, the girls were mostly 7s. The place was packed with men, but it seemed like most of the men were just buying drinks for the girls that were working.
In both June and August, I visited Solid Gold. In June there were 5 or 6 really nice looking girls with great bodies that were comparable to the women of Play women and Blacks. Three of the waitress looked better than most of the girls. But, all three had boyfriends and did not date on the side. I think I paid 200 pesos for a working girl for about three hours. In response to some comments about prostitution being illegal. When the girl and I were ready to leave, we had to wait for at least an hour because the police was in the club checking the girls’ identifications. None of the guys were bothered. I was told the club owners tout the club as just a drinking and show club. And that the working girls do not officially go with customers for money. That was one the reasons this club and others have mini tango and cabaret shows. But, the police thought the place was hiring underage girls from Romania or one of the previous Eastern Bloc countries. There was definitely at least two girls from Romania working as waitress. In August, the place was dead with very few customers and girls.
Internet Services
My luck was flat out bad going thought the Internet websites. I used primarily Platynum and Area-VIP. Most ladies wanted 150 pesos for the hour. Maybe I am too demanding. But, the ladies I invited to the apartment look considerably different from their photos. In my view, the photos and ladies in person were nowhere close. For example, this Barbara is probably at least 35 which doesn't bother me, looked at least 15 pounds heavier than her photos and you could smell the smoke from the clothes she was wearing at least five feet away. I gave her a tip to leave. Another Internet girl goes by the name Faby. Fat face, speaks English well, a pretty good sense of humor, but overweight. Wasn't my type and she sensed it immediately. I guess Faby has three or four other girls working with or for her in the Recoleta area. Faby was determined to get me with one of her girls. After her visit, she sent at least four other girls for my review uninvited. Even lowering my normal quality standards, I rejected all four girls. Another Internet darling, Indiana is much older than her photos. Indiana came into the apartment, went immediately to the bathroom, let me watch her piss, I guess this was supposed to turn me on, said she had to make it fast because she had to go to school or something like that, but the next time we would take it slow and easy and she would give me a discount. I said lets just wait until next time and showed her the door. I saw a girl named Catherine from Area-VIP. She is a college student, says 23 but I thing more like 27, speaks French, a cool young lady. Thought I was too serious. I didn't bother telling her about my other Internet experiences. It was an ok session. But, she was got at least 3 telephone pages. She had another appointment immediately after me. Said we could get together after work if I wanted to, like about 12 midnight, she wanted to work on relaxing me. Didn't take her up on the offer.
French Street
Visited June and August. For me this is a good daytime place to go to in the Recoleta area. I really like the hostess, Miriam. She is sincere and honest. For example, I asked Miriam why the girls didn't charge 150 pesos per hour as the minimum like the Internet girls. The French Street rate was 100-200 pesos per hour, depending on what you want. Miriam told me that just because someone calls on the phone speaking English or comes from the U.S., that doesn't mean they should be charged a different rate from a local guy. When I mentioned I was maybe interested in moving to B.A. in the future and looking into buying an apartment or home, Miriam said she used to work in mortgage banking. Miriam provided me with a website address that she and her family bought their home through where you work with the owner directly and reduce some of the fees. I don't have the website address because I decided to wait and make sure I wasn't thinking with the wrong head. I talked to Miriam a couple of times and now French Street has its own website. The website is [url]http://www.factorsex.com.[/url]
Generally, there are six girls working thoughout the day. Miriam believes in discretion, especially given the location, so she wants you to call. The number is 4825-9370. Presently, the girls working at French Street are Belen, Carola, Samanta, Celeste and Luciana. Can they for the most part, rate lookwise with the girls we see at Blacks or Play Women? No! But, like I said I am really into quality sessions and this in my opinion is a good daytime place in the Recoleta area.
Other I took time and talked to the after hour security guard and night receptionists in one hotel I stayed in. This was the 11pm shift. One night I brought in a lady. The receptionist mentioned he could get me someone better than that. I laughed and said be my guest. If I like her, you get a tip. He gave a description of some of the ladies he knew were working. And I chose the one I wanted to visited me. He assured me there was no obligation to take her if I didn't like her. The guy sent on two occasions really nice ladies that was comparable to the ladies of Blacks and Play Women for 150 pesos for the hour. Unfortunately, the guy doesn't want his name given out. But, according to this guy there are a group of ladies that work though hotel night shift receptionists. I didn't really explore the comments any further. But recommend someone get to know some of the various hotel night shift folks so we can find out what is going on.
When I first went to B.A. I was somewhat put off with the girls working in the club. Regardless of what I thought was agreed to, the girls generally stayed two hours at the most. My second visit some of same girls seemed more flexible and not a business like. I had a discussion with a few girls about there approach. I don't know if any of this is true. But a couple of girls from different bars provided similar comments. A girl at Play Women told me (depending on the time and how productive the girl is for the club-make money off of drinks and how many men desire her company) certain girls are pressured by management to make a date and get back to the bar as soon as possible. This helps the club make more money on the drinks and exit fees. This girl said the more popular girls have regular customers that come to the club at specific times and nights for them. According to her, it's not good business to abandon their regulars because most girls do not expect to be with us gringos more than one time. Also, the girl said some of the girls have a young child or still stay with their families. They must get home at a certain time, unless arrangements are made well in advance. Her comment was "Imagine paying a baby-sitter or have a family member take care of your child for the night because this guy you met in the club promises to come and get you, take you out to dinner, and spend the whole night together. But, the guy never shows up." According to her, it happens often. I guess I would have to plead guilty to that charge once myself, because I was to meet a lady at the apartment before she went to work at the club and she promised to spend the whole night. I was taking care of business elsewhere and showed up an hour late. When I did show, I was informed this beautiful lady had come and left. The receptionist thought I was nuts for not waiting for this lady. Quite frankly, I did not think the lady would show up. We never know, do we. Two ladies did inform me that during December through February, the ladies working the club have more flexibility with management because there are more ladies working in the clubs. This allows some ladies to take time off and if they meet some guy they click with and trust the ladies will travel with them on a mini vacation.
On the way back to the states, I met a lady working in an embassy in B.A. I mentioned I was interested in buying a home in B.A. in the future. Her comments were make sure I use a lawyer. This wasn't her area of expertise, but she feels Argentina must find a way to raise money. One good way would be property taxes. The banks are carrying a lot of bad home loans. If in the future the banks are allowed to foreclose on property, this could drive home prices down. But, someone with cash dollars should be able to find some great bargains in the future. Please, realize the comments were her off the record opinions, not the views of the embassy she worked for.
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Nice post, email, thanks for the kind words. Your Uncle Otto is always here to pass on the best information he knows.
It's good to see you are plowing your knowledge back into the soil and not just taking taking taking like so many lurkers do! Good info!
-Otto
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Email,
I gotta give you a big "thata boy" for your post. Thanks for the very nice words. I can tell your a guy that likes his privacy and doesn't really like to post... so it was especially nice to read about your experiences.
I can also tell that you tell it like it is. I don't like BS'ers on this or any other board. I like hearing about the bad as well as the good.
I have a good friend that is in Buenos Aires right now. I just got done talking to him. It was funny because I had not talked to him since he arrived last week. One of my amigas from the clubs told me she ran into him last night and told me the name of the girl he left with. So today...first thing I say, "How was Arecili?". LOL. He laughed and accused me of having spies everywhere... Ha, ha.
Anyway, he says that Playwoman and Black's have picked back up some since early September. He reported that Ness, Cattos, Solid Gold, and almost all of the other clubs still are not as good as previous times. He is trying to convince me to come back down the last weekend in October/beginning of November. Work is very busy and I'll see him Thanksgiving weekend but I'm weak. I'm gonna try to hold out as long as I can.
EasyTiger, welcome to the board! A month in BA?? Wow. Lucky chap. Keep us informed of your adventures. Good luck.
Gentlemen: Keep sharing information with one another. This is how we all learn. I'm impressed we are able to maintain such a civil board. Everyone is respectful for the most part. This site is like a goldmine. It is full of valuable information. Yeah, it's full of a lot of posts but take the time to go through the "Archives" back from 2001 to April 2002" The link is on the lower left hand side of this page. I maintain this is the best site right now for information on Argentina. Have fun. Life is good.
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hey email,
great post!!
i'd like to check out blandish on my oct visit - can you please tell us more, specifically, what time did you arrive, and leave (if you remember)
thanks!
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August tends to be the coldest and wetest month in EZE, as a result talent moves to warmer climbs -
email: Romanians ? Hmmm !!!, I know that many East European women are moving over to South Am. but did not expect .RO to trailblaze :)
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Email
Internet Services
My luck was flat out bad going thought the Internet websites. I used primarily Platynum and Area-VIP. Most ladies wanted 150 pesos for the hour. Maybe I am too demanding. But, the ladies I invited to the apartment look considerably different from their photos. In my view, the photos and ladies in person were nowhere close.
Email,
The only internet website that is 100% WUSIWYG is www.escorts-argentina.com.
Thanks for a nice overview.
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There´s a new club in Recoleta, on the corner between Solid Gold and Sodoma. It´s called Madahos, and is quite nice inside, more Blacks than Solid Gold. Long, L-shaped bar, lots of mirrors, a stage and a few pole-dancing mini-stages sticking out of the walls at various heights.
I was there at midnight on Sunday, and it was v quiet. Only half a dozen girls for maybe 15 guys. The exact opposite of the norm... It didn´t feel well established... there was much more happening in PW when I went over there.
Girls seemed about at the PW / SG level. I didn´t ask about prices. A couple spoke English, and the bar people were friendly. Entry was 20 pesos, which included a first drink, as at Blacks.
Cheers,
Easy.
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Question - As always the posts from the well informed are really good and informative.
Does anyone have thoughts or experiences on visiting the web girls in their departmentos or consultarios? Many web girls mention that you may visit them in their departmentos. This seems like a great way to explore the city and visit the lions in their own den. If things are not as expected, it would be easier to just leave vs. having an unpleasant experience at a hotel.
I like to explore big cities with a combination of taxis, (trams in amsterdam ) and walking. I have been everywhere in amsterdam, just getting to the prive houses. It is a great way to kill time and learn a new city.
Also, any thoughts or experiences with ALBERGUE TRANSITORIO's. I have run accross several links to these love hotels and without looking very hard at all, there must me 200+ of these wonderful places in the city.
The web site at sensualbaires has a link to a card they offer with 30-50% discounts on these rooms. This site links to about 100+ of these hotels in all barios of the city. Many of these are in the 10-15$ usd range for 2 hours.
Many look really nice and the prices are very reasonable. With all of these rooms available ( each one seems to have 8- 10 rooms ) the daily turn over must be incredibly large each day. So I am just wondering what beauties are visiting these hotels with the locals everyday. I am only estimating that hundreds of girls work in the clubs, but it would require thousands to keep all of these transitorios busy every day.
Thanks
Ibiza007
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Anyone in BA this week want to get to hook up for some hunting? saint, I saw you mention that your friend was in town, think he'd be interested? I'm American, 34, very easygoing and cool, I just don't have any espanol (and just a little Portuguese). Just got in from Rio (I posted in the BR boards a few weeks ago, tomb hooked me up with mucho info) and I was so depressed getting on that plane. I have no idea where anything is here and have been warned about the taxi drivers and all the weird stuff happening lately. Some guy got shot to death today outside the hotel (Claridge). Yuck...
Anyhow, let me know.. Looks like I'll be here longer than I thought. You can email me at chas68spamtrap18@hotmail.com
Also I saw someone post that they thought that Clara was older, anyone care to make a guess at how old? She's on escorts-argentina.com.
Later
Alano
