2004 Reports - Edited

I agree with Andres. I know some of these girls leaving for greener pastures. As Andres mentioned, the action here is still mainly comprised of locals. Look at places like Rio with TONS of tourists and still the hottest girls are going to Europe. They want EUROS and US$ not Pesos or Reals.

I somewhat agree with Prokofiev but I disagree when he says it's like "paying $50,000 for a car with a list price of $25,000". Sex isn't like that. It's more like buying a diamond with no set price tag. The diamond is worth only as much as someone will pay. Some know the ins and outs of buying a diamond and some don't. Some just walk into a store and buy it because they have the money while the smarter consumer will let the seller of the diamond know that it's overpriced and try to reach a fairer price.

Girls are realizing what they are worth in other parts of the world. That's all. They realize they can invest $1,000 in a flight to Europe or Mexico and can maybe make that make in 1-2 days then make big money. These girls here don't need a visa to visit Europe so it's very easy for them. I just talked to two more girls I know that are heading to Spain in a month. Honestly, I don't blame them. It's like us. Would you stay in the same city if you knew you could go to Europe, do the same exact job you are doing here (maybe even easier there since sessions are VERY quick) and you would make 4/5/6 X your salary?? I doubt it. Think objectively and subjectively when you think about all of this. Not just how much more YOU are paying.

Too many guys look at the hobby as Me, me, me. Think of things more in terms of what would you do if you were the girl. It will help you understand them more. All you guys think that these girls are making "easy money". They probably have the toughest job in the world. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We are all not Prince fricking charming. Most of us have sisters or daughters. So needless to say we wouldn't want to see them doing this profession because it's NOT as easy as guys make it appear. These girls are angels for doing what they are doing.

The quality of girls in Buenos Aires is extremely poor and everybody should stay away. Go to México instead. The girls there are much better looking and a much better value.

Just my opinion.

DH,

Must be difficult to talk with your tongue stuck in your cheek that way.

Saint,

"I somewhat agree with Prokofiev but I disagree when he says it's like "paying $50,000 for a car with a list price of $25,000". Sex isn't like that. It's more like buying a diamond with no set price tag. The diamond is worth only as much as someone will pay. Some know the ins and outs of buying a diamond and some don't. "

But the point of the WSG Forum is to EXPLAIN the ins and outs of buying a "diamond". That's one of the most useful things here - it establishes the fair market value in each location by comparing what each guy paid. Information is power. Yes, there IS a set price tag -more or less- on each "piece" and we are here to reveal that oh-so-important bit of secret info.

What costs DickHead 100 pesos might cost me 150 because I'm not going to cook dinner or use a vibrator and it might cost another guy 200 cause he doesn't speak Spanish or bargain. That's cool. But when someone grossly overspends after reading this forum, he's not helping himself or his fellow mongers. And especially not the local guys who can't compete. And worst of all, instead of looking generous, you can wind up looking like a target or a "mark" to the girls.

Starfe,
"For the record my sister and my mother were both working girls at 1 time or another"
"I used to watch my father buy me callgirls at the Desert Inn in Vegas while he played Bacarat. I was a mere 18 at the time . . ."

Does that mean what it sounds like?? You had one hell of a childhood . . .

Peace -P

Prokofiev,

The mother - sister part was over the top but not the Vegas part.
You are right about being at a major disadvantage by not speaking spanish. That makes my negotiating skills nil if they speak very little english. Time is a major constraint, so I am not willing to walk away from a nice piece of tail for that reason. I have certain goals in mind on every trip.

85% of the girls i see on any given trip are from Area - vip ONLY. All are booked through the front desk at Loisuites. I love that staff.


Starfe

Regarding Quality and the Exodas:
Common sense tells you that many cannot/will not leave BA due to family condition, ability to get visa's, fear of unknown, etc. I have talked to some who have gone to more lucrative pasteures but they come back; they get home sick I think.

Prices are up:
Agreed, but it beats the 1:1 days. Through conversations with some of the girls, some over a period of time, the chica network is stronger than ever. It doesn't take more than 1 or 2 of their buddies to latch on to a sugar daddy type, or someone/someplace where the fees extracted are off the norm scale, and the girls feel they deserve and have the right to the same. Can they get it? Maybe. If not? Back to the old haunts/regulars where they may become miserable because they are not getting what they want.

Other Recoleta clubs.
I have not heard much of the other places in Recoleta lately besides Black, Newport and Madaho. Any news?

MAG

Well! It seems the price topic has gotten real attention. Why am I not surprised? I have been trying to fight the tourist mentality for some time. My conclusion is, we can't win(the non-tourists) because we can't eliminate the tourist mentality(the guy who comes with $US5000 to spend in 10 days and spends it). He is the same guy who goes to Las Vegas and loses it in the casinos, or the thieving strip joints. He has no interest in value, only really in spending the money. For this reason, there always grows an industry willing to help him spend it for the least value. If we can direct these tourists to the tourist exploiters, they will do less harm.

I am not a tourist. I am a world traveller. I travel all the time, and expect to do so as long as my health allows me. While I have a generous budget compared to almost everyone here, I care about price and quality. I have a goal to have a woman TLN every day, 365 days a year, if possible. I am late 50's, I like women of 20. It doesn't work to try to marry one(see below), so it only works to pay cash per performance. Often I see the same women over periods of weeks, like DH. But $ar50 is important when one pays it every day, so I can't have the vacationer-tourist's attitude, and wouldn't want to have it.

Yes, Black and Madahos are destroyed. Sex in these places are rising to world value, to where the tourists resist paying more. We have to get used to that. The same thing is happening to the popular web sites. As to why world prices are what they are, "Latina Addict" and Prokofiev have the right idea. The tourists are overpaying. Starfe, I also bought women in Las Vegas starting in 1971. I could take nice talent from Ceasers Palace for $75 then. The brothel price was $35 north of Vegas. Things have changed in the US, mostly as they got tougher on the prostitution trade and tourism increased. I wouldn't touch Las Vegas now. But yes, you are bringing the tourist mentality with you to BA. For you, it really doesn't matter much between Lois Suites and Black in BA and the Hotel Bristol and Le Palace in Panama City. You plan to spend whatever you can afford to bring, with no regard for value or market conditions. Which makes you perfect for the tourist exploiter.

Sex prices in the rich nations are set by monopoly price fixing. The price is basically marriage, and the monopoly is maintained by law. This gives sex an extremely high value. So high that most people in these countries don't get much. Just as I didn't when I lived in the US(even as a good income executive for years). Sex simply wasn't worth the price in the US. It got a lot worse for me in PA after the passage of the Berkowitz rape law(its rape if she says it is, even if force or threats were not involved). This has to be added to the price of sex. An ACCUSATION costs at least $100,000 to defend, so extortion is a real concern if you have anything to lose. So there were a great many days I would have gladly dropped $500 on a decent quality woman just to feel her up without risk.

You will also note that all of the English speaking countries of the world are among the worst, followed by Japan. The US is the absolute worst. You can thank the long influence of women(like Queen Victoria) in the governance and religion of these countries. Which is why Americans are so driven as sex tourists.

So the world price of sex has more to do with the disposable vacation income of the sex tourist than its value in the rich countries, since the value of sex in marriage is outrageously high, more than half your income/year for whatever your wife sees fit to give you, out of the goodness of her heart. And you are trapped, because the price of divorce is even more ridiculous. The price of sex in a dating relationshop is also ridiculous, since the woman is usually interested in trapping you into marriage on top of the other costs.

As to the value of sex as a job for the women sex workers, it really does have to do with the income levels of the community where they live. Saint, you seem a nice guy, but we really part on this issue. You keep going on about the difficulty of this job. Crap. This is what women do for a living everywhere. Usually, we call the job "wife", with pay as above. Is cleaning the bathrooms of apartments so much better? Or washing the feet of fat wealthy women in beauty spas? Or washing the shit off the behinds of old people in nursing homes? Cleaning up vomit in hospitals? Or working picking crops in the sun, working as a waitress in a cafe? These are the jobs with "dignity" for the poor young women. Give me a break. The real reason there aren't more women jumping to do this is "see monopoly", above. The older and upper class women are desperate to try to keep young, pretty, poor women from taking advantage of their greatest asset in a free market. So they try to force a poor, pretty, young woman to marry a poor man and work in one of the jobs above(IN ADDITION TO THE JOB OF SERVICING HER HUSBAND), thereby avoiding competition with her.

Saint, notice how in the discussion about paying a maid(in Living in Argentina) to clean the crap out of your bathrooms you sing a totally different tune about overpaying and tipping. Is her job so great? Why do you want to tip the bartenders at Madahos, who did nothing but rip you off; more than your maid who works so hard for you?

Currently, I see a 21YO woman 4 nights a week, TLN 9-9 for which I pay her $ar150/night. At $ar600/week, this woman is in heaven. She never hoped to make so much in her life. Where a waiter makes maybe $ar250/week for a 10 hour day, or a store clerk $ar100/week? I am actually very generous with her in this market. My greatest concern is the effect on her when I have to end the relationship.

The proper solution to this is to use this forum to monitor and study the market and then behave and pay accordingly. This forum is interesting, because it gives one the opportunity to obtain information that is usually only available to a native of some time in an area. When a newbie asks for information to avoid the tourist traps, they are asking for information that normally is only acquired with difficulty and local experience. But there is a responsibility that comes with that information. That responsibility is basically to behave the way the people who acquired that information behaved, i.e. as veteran or local, so one doesn't create tourist exploiters. So they really need to study all that is available.

This is a very practical issue for me. I am, and plan to continue, travelling in out of the way areas. Like Andres does in BA. I have been posting, and much of the info is, and will be, new to the travellers. But should I really give out this info, and thereby invite a bunch of people to come to these places and attract the tourist sharks, thereby ruining it for myself in the future? Andres just got a taste of this when some people immediately took one of his fresh, new, young recommendations in an apartment over to Madahos to look for more money. I fully expect him to stop posting local info in this forum at any time if this crap continues. I would mourn the loss, since for me his info is amoung the most valuable.

The main reason I haven't stopped posting already is that I don't believe the continuous readers of this forum are the greatest culprits, particularly the more experienced travellers. This forum has been disparaging Madahos for months as becoming overpriced, and they just raised their prices. So obviously they have a lot of customers who don't agree with this forum. Instead, I cringe every time I hear about Moondog and his writeup praising BA in other forums as a great destination. I have never read any of them, but I have read every one of his postings here 4 times, using the search function. He has continually promoted the web sites(escorts-argentina and Platinum especially) and little else. Worse, he has been a constant advocate of increasing the price of the web women to the insane $ar300/hour(supporting the $US-$ar confusion ripoff), and overpaying in other ways. And I cringe when I have read for over a year Roxanne's explanatory post that the average price of internet women is $ar150-$ar200, clearly promoting overpaying. Many of these same women work from apartments for $ar80 or less. I think that those people have much greater influence on the newbies, who don't bother to read the volumes of stuff here, than I do.

But I still think about it every time I prepare a post on another city. And it is why I won't directly answer a newbie who asks: "Can you tell me where to go and what to do so I don't have to study at finding out thru the forum?". If one gives this person local knowledge, this is simply inviting problems. Leave these people to the tourist exploiters. Send them to Madahos, Black, Roxanne, escorts-argentina, and platinum.

We can expect that BA will further develop 2 markets, a tourist exploiting market that is well known to the tourists, and a secondary, locally priced market. The primary issue is how to support knowledge of the secondary market without inviting the "tourist mentality" types who would destroy it. This is a very small industry. The main clubs only have a total of less than 200 working women. The popular apartments less than 100. It doesn't really take many people to create a problem. The other cities are even smaller. Interestingly, especially in the Argentina forum, I like the fact that the real info is buried in so much garbage. I wish Andres did NOT have his own forum. It makes it too easy to find his valuable local info.

Wow. Well, I can't agree with everything you are staying, I like how you are analyzing the situation. Interesting post.

I used to love Madaho's and Recolleta. Last visit it was all Catto's, Cafe Exedra, and good old DH Maria's who works street near Galleria Pacifica. Little more inconvenient and not as nice atmosphere as Madaho's but still pretty and GFE women.

Remember lets only pay for value because the chase is as much fun the actual kill. The educated monger will only pay market. Of course there is the experience curve.

I know BA well and keep to 150 pesos. Was just in Lima and did same night 1 and 2 but got ripped off (price) at MP at major hotel on #3 Sunday morning because of bad market knowledge and limited time to search.

Amen to [b]all[/b] of that, Brother Lexton.

Well, I half agree with Lexton but I think he is naive if he expects the "local" market to remain a secret for long. There will be some movement of both girls from the local market to Madahos and Blacks, and tourists in the opposite direction. Also the owners of the places that supply the local market will soon be attracted to the dollars in the touristy places and they surely will make some moves to get some of those dollars if they are in any way entrepreneurial.

My original question to the readers of this forum is whether the improved economy since the devaluation days has increased prices and the answers appear to be unequivocal that it has.

Sadly, the arrival of the bigger budget tourist will produce inflationary pressures in this smaller market, however the arrival of these tourists is not at all surprising, given the more benign economic climate in the country.

On the other hand the increase in prices will surely attract other suppliers into the market (both new clubs and more girls). This too is inevitable.

Just MHO.

We don't have to agree on everything. We all have our opinions and that is fine and dandy.

Lexton makes some great points but I still disagree with him on some of his points. When he says, "this is what women everywhere do for a living"... he is WAY off the mark, IMHO. This is NOT what women do everywhere. Until I read that Lexton is sleeping with overweight, drunk, older, and ugly women with BAD hygiene then he can tell me that this job is easy. (I'm in no way saying this is the make up of WSG members but look around at some of the clubs you are in). Like I said before, this job aint easy. Not to mention the emotional toll it takes on them. No way in hell I could do this job. Not for all the money in the world. I still remember one day in 2002 at a party Jackson threw at his apartment. I sat next to this guy that smelled like sh*t. He had the worst hygiene of anyone I ever met in my life. Every single person in the party was talking about it even days after the party. How that guy got any girl to sleep with him is beyond me. And some guys wonder why they get no "GFE".

We can all say that sex isn't free. We pay in some way. That is true. But that's totally different than saying that "every girl sleeps with anyone with money". Two totally different things. Most model hot girls in the USA and Europe won't just sleep with you because you have money. This is the single biggest problem I think with the mindset of many guys that hobby. They lose sight of reality and think that everything in life and sex revolves around money and ANY girl is available for a few $$. I just read on another private board (CH) some guy that posted the reality is he can sleep with ANY girl he wants. I posted a correction. No, he can sleep with any [b]prostitute[/b] he wants. There is a huge difference.

As far as tipping the maid. I do that too. Something interesting was a few weeks ago when I was at the WSG mansion. There were some girls there that Captain Dave hired for the photos of the Mansion. Andres was talking to them and I think one of the girls mentioned that she would rather clean houses and make 5 pesos an hour then sleep with guys for money. That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Not every girl will sleep with just any guy that has money. That is the point you have to remember. There are FAR more girls like that in the world then the girls that we are meeting in Madahos or Black. That [b]IS[/b] reality.

The other thing is that someone posted about people like Dickhead paying a lot less. He will have no advantage going into a place like Madahos or Black and he realizes it. That's probably why he doesn't bother to go in. (The fact that drinks are ridiculously expensive probably doesn't help either). I've been with Andres several times to the places he goes. I've been to the places Dickhead goes to. I never have seen the quality that I see in Madahos or Black. You guys can post things like "yeah, but the sex is amazing with these girls". People like me need to have sex with the type we are attracted to the most.

We don't have to agree on everything. Hell, we don't have to agree on anything. That's what makes the world interesting. As far as people bitching about WSG, other people's informative posts, etc. and it causing price increases. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Yes, sites like WSG will cause more people to flock to BA or wherever but these same sites provide valuable information for the active traveler. If you don't want to participate then don't read it or post to it anymore. I still laugh because I'm on a few other private boards. Many people badmouth WSG but they are probably the guys that read it the most. Really funny to me.

Good luck and safe travels to all.

Saint

Hi all,

Finally got my regular member status, have been in BA for the last few nights and loving it, only problem is I would have posted this earlier as I was looking for drinking/mongering buddies.

I´m still around in BA tonight and tomorrow (20th and 21st Sep)...staying at Loisuites Recoleta although I may have to move tomorrow..

If anyone is free and wants to hook up please feel free to PM me...alternatively I have a mobile phone provided by the hotel for tonight (4562 4889) so give me a call. I know I´m only scratching the surface of the BA scene as I don´t speak Spanish, and will happily buy a few (many) beers for anyone willing to show a rookie the ropes..

I will also be back in BA on the 28th, as I´m flying back to London on the 29th.

Cheers,

Andy

As regards,
"The proper solution to this is to use this forum to monitor and study the market and then behave and pay accordingly."

I second the motion!
-HGL

[quote]Lexton said

This forum is interesting, because it gives one the opportunity to obtain information that is usually only available to a native of some time in an area. When a newbie asks for information to avoid the tourist traps, they are asking for information that normally is only acquired with difficulty and local experience. But there is a responsibility that comes with that information. That responsibility is basically to behave the way the people who acquired that information behaved, i.e. as veteran or local, so one doesn't create tourist exploiters. So they really need to study all that is available.[/quote]

Hats off to you, Lexton. You couldn't have said it better.

I guess that, after Jackson retailors the forum, the local info will only be available for Senior members, thus avoiding the problems created by newbies in off-the-beaten-path places.

Andres

Oh my Gawd lexton! I hereby nominate you as the most eloquent, got your shit together, most objective monger yet. even though Jackson and Dickhead are kings in my book, they have competition in you and, every word you wrote today on 20 sep is gold, 100% true and unrebutable.

The New York Times needs to publish your last post and open people's eyes.

Here here.

Latina AddictE

I leave the board for a few hours to go to work and return this evening to find our very own monger version of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. I love it. You guys are alright.

Still, it's kind of disconcerting that the week before I make my first trip to BA, we're discussing the end of the glory days there. I have a knack for picking the so-called wrong times to be in mongering locations - Nashville just prior to the lockdown, Cuba post-crackdown, and now BA with its recovering economy and chica exodus. Except I still had a blast in Nashville, with a limitless pool of young talent, and where $80-$150 could land me the cute co-ed I had fantasized about in college, and $200-$300 would land me an all-American blond bombshell or raven-haired Southern beauty who I just wish I could tell my friends I had bedded.

And then there was Cuba, where it was easy to find two cute, playful, and passionate women at a time for several hours, all for the price of a steak at Ruth's Chris. And for $50 to $100, an unquestioned 8 or above on the world-wide monger scale from the clubs. No, there weren't women lined up on the Malecon for miles to see, but there were beauties in Cuba. They're always there. My problem with Cuba was not with the quality of the women, it was with the hoops you had to jump through to get to them.

So I'm still ever the optimist about this trip. Ignorance of past glory truly is bliss. With Cuba not worth the risk of a hefty fine at this point, my frame of reference remains daily life in the United States. Surely, gentlemen, for me the party is about to begin.

GC

General Custer,

My best trip to Buenos Aires was my last trip in July. You are going to see and taste some of the very best women the world has to offer. It still is a once in a lifetime city. Our critique of prices does not take away at all from the pure joy of picking and choosing the love of you're night.

Have a great time,

starfe

Ok I have to put in my two cents.

It´s a market. Like any market the suppliers will charge what the market will pay, it really is as simple as that. There is no right or wrong, there is no Latina underground network to drive prices up. They want more from us because we have more money. If you buy a plane ticket on Southern Winds for a flight to Chaco from their US web site they charge you more than an Argentine buying it here because, wait for it, our money is worth 3 times as much as theirs, they have none and we have a lot. I for one accept the SLIGHT tourist tax. If I could get even one of these girls to pay me 10 pesos for the honor of giving me a BBBJ I would take the money, if a different one offered 20 I would let her go first.

If you don´t like the price pass on the girl. (nicely please) and talk to the next one. Ultimatly WE determine the price by what we pay not what they charge.

The thing I always wonder why nobody talks about is the difference in quality. Since I hope we are all folowing Jackson´s excellent policy about paying after and not before. Why does nobody, with the exception of Saint, talk about paying a premium for what you want. I for one come here to have wicked nasty sex with the kind of women that wouldn´t talk to me in sex prison. (Ok except for ¨that will be another $20.00 if you want another dance") My thing is hot blondes that are tits on a stick. If I find the right one I´ll pay more. Bently's cost more than Pontiacs.

Custer makes a great point, I´ve been coming here since Jan 2001, the scene has changed and changed alot but I´d rather be here than Bangladesh.

Just my opinion, have a blast, play safe.

Starfe is absolutely correct. There are still great girls in this town. So much for my not wanting to spend more than last month on my "entertainment budget". Kick Stand and I went to China town to eat then decided to go to Rio Cabana. It might not be the best club for excitement but there are still some damn cute girls in there. The girls don't seem excited until you actually invite them over to sit down. After that they are laughing and all lovely dovey. I've never pulled a bad girl out of here.

It was Kick Stand's last night in town before he heads to Rio. We pulled out two cuties. I pulled out a blondie and Kick Stand pulled out the girl who stole Art Vandaly's cellphone a few weeks ago. She immediately recognized me and told me she was ashamed. At first she tried to claim it was an accident and I basically told her, "come on thief..you got caught," and she just put her head in her hands embarrassed. I told her that she should never do anything like that again.

Kick Stand doesn't speak Spanish but he seemed to be connecting well with his girl. We were all having a lot of laughs. I was cracking some jokes and a bunch of the girls there were laughing. There were a lot of girls working and before we left we were the only clients there. Just before we left a big group of Asian dudes walked in as usual.

Very reasonable prices when you consider that the price for your drink, the chicas exit drink and two hours is 187 pesos before tipping the waitress. Anyway, there are still places to go where you won't spend a fortune. My girl just left. Be careful though. She is like the 3rd girl I caught taking my picture with her camera on her cell phone. Generally I wouldn't allow it but now that I live here and I don't have any one to answer to... I kind of don't care. Those of you that are married might be singing a different tune.

No more hobbying here for a while. I am heading to Montevideo on Friday morning with a new friend I made. No romantic interest in her though. I actually might try to hobby one night as some dude emailed me about some good club there. I'll report back what I find out.

P.S. DaddyRulz, great post. I also wonder why no guys bring up the matter of paying for what you are actually attracted to vs. what you can afford then making excuses. I've talked to Andres before about it and asked him what his favorite type is and he admits it's the girls in Madahos type but that it's just too expensive. Let's be honest. All things being equal with price you would rather pull out a girl from Madahos/Black than Hook or the other cheaper clubs. Hotter girls will always command more. No way around it as far as I'm concerned.

Allow me to pile on.

General Custer,

Don’t worry about a thing man, your going to have an absolute great time. Cuba was cool, but there is absolutely no comparison to the experiences you are going to have in BA. BA is the whole package. Recoleta is all class. The city is fantastic. In Cuba your guard is way up all the time. BA is serene. You are still going to eat awesome steaks for around $10, and you still can’t screw your way out of BA no matter how much cash you bring. There are just too many chicas that your going to see that “have to get done” before you return home. It’s all good. Enjoy.

I’m off to Rio and SP soon. Should be a blowout!

Speculator

General, don't worry about BA. It's still a great place to be. I would be happy to go there again tomorrow. We're just bemoaning the good old days.

As for the super hot girls leaving. More power to them. Why shouldn't they do the best they can for themselves. I wouldn't want there to be some form of sexual slavery where they are kept there if the can do better elsewhere. How many of us have moved for a better opportunity?

Thanks fellas. This weekend cannot get here soon enough.

General Custer,

No need for concern. I returned from Bs. As. one week ago, and would love to be in your shoes heading back there next week.

There is an unending supply of beautiful, sexy, compliant women at reasonable prices in Argentina. Compared to what is available in the US, I find it unbelievable that anyone can complain about Argentina in the least.

I did much better concerning prices on my second trip than on my first. My ace in the hole is that I usually get quite a bit of extended time at no cost, because I make a point of being very nice to the chicas. Put on some romantic Latino music, pour a little vino, and talk to them about their lives.

They are used to being treated like a piece of meat, especially by the local Argentine men, so acting like a gentlemen goes a long way. Several commented on how surprised they were that I bothered to walk downstairs and wait with them for their taxi. They are used to men rolling over and snoring.

Following my first trip in June, I took careful notes concerning price, time, and quality, with the specific goal of obtaining much more value upon my return. There is no doubt in my mind that I did much better the second time, and will do better when I return again.

Here is a summary of the prices, time and quality that I experienced during my recent week there:

Location.......Pesos...Hours..Face..Body...'Tude......Perform

1.Orleans.........150.....1.......6........7...........5.............4

2.Orleans.........200.....5.......9........9..........10............9

3.Orleans.........125.....3.......9........9............9............9

4.Excedra.........300.....1.....10........8............6............7
(Moonlighting.....for..............7........7............9............8
from Madahos)..2 chicas

5.Catto's...........100.....2......5........5...........10...........8

6.Apartment......100.....1......7........7.............8...........8

7.Cutty Sark......150.....3......9........8...........10...........8

8.Internet..........150.....1......4........9............9...........8

9.Newport..........200.....1......5......10............9...........9

10.Newport........120.....2......5........5............6...........5

11.Orleans.........150.....2......6........8...........10.........10

As you can see, I definitely favor the cafes. I think that an unrushed, intimate conversation is the best predictor of a successful denouement. I spoke to many chicas that I passed on because things just weren't clicking between us.

It is clear to me that there is no correlation between the cost per hour and attitude and performance. Also, I think that on the whole I am a much tougher grader than most other mongers that I met in Bs. As.

DB

My heart bleeds for those mongers that lament and curse the recent influx of cash and tourists into Argentina, a country so long in dire need of an economic boost.

How dare the Argentinian Minister of Tourism blatantly promote this beautiful country knowing full well that the invading hordes of tourists will jeopardize the staked out claims of mongers proclaiming this city to be the land of 150 peso pussy. What a monumental lapse in foresight to not realize that the tourism and sex industries are so intertwined that it's downright impossible for one to prosper without the other.

I truly empathize with those mongers so compelled to place their own personal financial limitations above those of an entire country, but hey, such is life and free enterprise.

By the way, while some may "cringe" at Moondogs past postings I must admit they truly piqued my interest in BA and led to my initial visit shortly after the devaluation. I for one have always respected the posters who supply detailed informative posts on all aspects of life, rather than the banal rantings of a few, hellbent on imposing their view on how things should be done. Enough already with the artificial distinction between so called newbies and veterans when all it really boils down to is common sense, maturity and respect. Some have it before they ever step foot off the plane while others don't, no matter how many times they return.

General Custer, enjoy your trip. Actually this Quantity, Quality and price discussion resurfaces about every six months or so. There is more than enough to keep most anyone happy in BA initially. Sometimes however the novelty wears off for some and there is nothing left but to complain and reminisce about the good old days.

The sad thing is that Europe and Canada isn't too expensive. Just go read about my reports on Montreal and Quebec City. In England, you can get laid with a stunning girl for like 150 dollars or like 450 pesos. So it's not that bad considering it's like almost the say for a stunning girl in BA when it should be a lot less. So these girls leaving ba thinking they'll make more, probably won't. Since there's a lot more competition in europe. Just check the escorts listings in England. There's like a million of girl from all over the world. They're basically giving up a good market for a worse one. That's usually what happens when u get too greedy. I'm not putting them down or anything. I'm a greedy fellow too. It's just what greed does to you.

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And the sad thing is that this is a sex prison. Your only choice is to get married and then get divorced. What the hell?

Sorry to keep blabbering, but I hate this gringa prison and can't wait to go to brazil or baires. Even if you are willing to go for a less good looking girl with a great personality or so you think, it doesn't end up that way. They're all cons!

Field report 20 Sept

Had a great dinner with Roxanna, as everybody else says She is a wonderful Companion. I would recomend Her without reservation for tours or setting appointments.

Started out at Newport for old times sake, first mongering I ever did in BsAs was here and the bands usually are decent for cover bands. 15 chicas and 50 guys (Monday night/Tuesday morning so I know it wasn´t the best time) of the 50 guys most were older N. Americanos and pretty drunk. Didn´t see a thing I liked so I left after my Cortado I was there about 15 minutes.


Went to the triangle,

Ness: scary, ugly old chicks

Cattos: Ton of talent mixed variety. Talked to a Porteña named Anna Marie or Marie Anna. Nice sweet but not my type (nice and sweet). After she walked away I was sort of serial assulted by a barrage of different young fat chicks, the Solid Gold gambit would probably be good defence. Stayed about 30 minutes hoping something I couldn´t refuse would walk in but to no avail and I got tired of hiding my head under my jacket so I left.

Excedra:

Normal night, mostly Madura´s (probably spelled wrong, the older chicas) There were two promising ones that I spoke to on the way out, mid 20´s exotic look, both long dark dark hair, one light skinned the other dark. I asked them if they did each other and they said yes but it would be 300 pesos an hour for both. I didn´t have that kind of cash in my pocket, and don´t really like to hit an ATM with chicas in the cab. So I got a number and said I would think about it. Either one was doable at 150 pesos per hour. My thinking was that about the same quality could be had at 1707 or 30 pesos less.

1707

I got here at 2:30 or so. Only 4 girls available I didn´t like either one and the hostess said two more would be free in 10 minutes so I waited. Good thing, both were fine. Again I inquired into both and it was 300 peso an hour (that´s my thing two chicks) again didn´t have enough money so I took Fernanda, good choice. 120 pesos later we were saying howdy in the big room next to the bathroom. I like to spend a little time talking because I think the little effort pays off in chica preformance. Got down to business, very good quality BBBJ followed by DATY. I also dig DATY and she seemed to as well. Somebody knocked on the door and asked if she was ok, because she was being kind of loud. Did multiple positions but I was unable to finish due to lack of foresight on my part. The house condom there is the industrial thickness tulipan. I can´t feel any poontang through them and they never fail to tighten up on the head of my unit causing extreem pain. Personaly I can´t hit the high note while my dick is being bent in half so I gave up on the idea and just hung out for the last 15 minutes talking. Over all it was a fun experiance and I would choose Fernanda again, the problem was me forgetting my own equipment. Those condoms fucking suck.

The scene has changed a bit since April but I still had a good time.

Lexton said in an earlier post:
[quote]Instead, I cringe every time I hear about Moondog and his writeup praising BA in other forums as a great destination. I have never read any of them, but I have read every one of his postings here 4 times, using the search function. He has continually promoted the web sites(escorts-argentina and Platinum especially) and little else. Worse, he has been a constant advocate of increasing the price of the web women to the insane $ar300/hour(supporting the $US-$ar confusion ripoff), and overpaying in other ways. And I cringe when I have read for over a year Roxanne's explanatory post that the average price of internet women is $ar150-$ar200, clearly promoting overpaying. Many of these same women work from apartments for $ar80 or less. I think that those people have much greater influence on the newbies, who don't bother to read the volumes of stuff here, than I do.[/quote]
Lexton,

You remind me of the guy who has been living in the city most all of his life, and suddenly “discovers” a small mountain town and decides to move there. Now everybody else is called a “flatlander,” and soon he becomes in favor of no more growth, as this is his private town now, and too many others will ruin it for the “locals.”

I wrote my BA Guide and keep it updated to help the new guy get around in BA for the first time. The emphasis is on the high points such as the clubs in Recoleta, the triangle, and the cafes. A few others are thrown in as well. It gives the new guy a good start on where to go and what to expect, who to contact for apartments and arrangements, and nothing more. You do not have to worry about the guide giving out your secrets of filthy apartments and dive establishments to meet budget girls. Yes you can meet the same girl in a brothel downtown and pay a token amount to get your rocks off, but that is not for everybody. Let the new guy go to the more established clubs first and get a feel for the city, then later he will venture out and find other attractions, and maybe even find another $ar50 girl for you. :)

The reason the website of [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url] is promoted is because of the integrity of the owners, and it is the only one that is 100% wysiwyg. [url]www.platynum.com.ar[/url] is also mentioned because it is owned by the same people. Some of the other websites are mentioned, but not promoted.

Overpaying in other ways? Let’s see, maybe these qualify:

Buying a washer/dryer combination to help my girl and her kid, and also buying a round trip plane ticket so that she does not have to hold her kid on her lap for 21 hours on the bus to go visit her family.
How about paying nursing school tuition to help out a very special friend who is making a tremendous change in her life for the better? These are definitely more than the insane price of $100 U.S., so I hope these examples do not offend you too much.

Lexton, you do not have to “cringe,” as most of the “flatlanders” who will be coming to “your town,” will not be taking over the small, dingy apartments anytime soon. You can have those all to yourself. :)

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

[quote]Originally posted by Slick1

Actually this Quantity, Quality and price discussion resurfaces about every six months or so. There is more than enough to keep most anyone happy in BA initially. Sometimes however the novelty wears off for some and there is nothing left but to complain and reminisce about the good old days.

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Wise observation, Slick. I agree 100%. In fact, I have even caught myself slipping into the trap of "damn, Buenos Aires ain't what it used to be!"

I think the mongering experience of the city is so overwhelming to a first-time visitor, that subsequent trips (when you can gain a sense of perspective and not be totally overwhelmed) might be something of a letdown. In reality, it's just the initial shock of the place wearing off. ;)

Uncle Otto

[quote]Originally posted by Saint

The other thing is that someone posted about people like Dickhead paying a lot less. He will have no advantage going into a place like Madahos or Black and he realizes it. That's probably why he doesn't bother to go in. (The fact that drinks are ridiculously expensive probably doesn't help either). I've been with Andres several times to the places he goes. I've been to the places Dickhead goes to. I never have seen the quality that I see in Madahos or Black. You guys can post things like "yeah, but the sex is amazing with these girls". People like me need to have sex with the type we are attracted to the most.

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Ditto what Saint says. In fact, I could have copied his entire post and passed it off as my own words. He's right on target.

Uncle Otto

Back in '98 I paid ar$150, same in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 so as far as I can see this trend isn't changing as fast as some people would have it. And I can still go to the provinces and pay ar$80 for a lovely girl so I for one am not about to start getting too worried about the BA/Argentina scene being ruined by this influx of tourism we're seeing. Rest assured that if you visit BA in 2015 you'll find nice girls for ar$150.00. And don't think for a minute that there isn't another devaluation lurking somewhere around the corner that will one day tip the scales back in our favor as did the great 2001 deval.

As for the girls going to Europe, this is a very good thing because everytime one girl leaves this gives a new hottie a chance to step up to the plate for the first time, which is good for all of us who like fresh new faces and bodies. Argentina's farm system for hotties that work in the clubs is probably as good as their soccer development system so let as many girls go to Europe as their little hearts desire.

It sounds like everyone has voiced their opinions well.

Tito Otto makes a great observation that I have thought about but not voiced. After going to BA a number of times over a number of years, I find waves of different feelings each time I go. Sometimes I am frustrated due to lack of unlimited funds/ below par Spanish/ too much work to do/ difficult choices. Other times I am on cloud nine, with a favorita, a new discovery, a new experience, giving a good service in return. And other times sad, that I cannot stay longer, cannot help some more. One thing remains constant, when I am not there, I want to be there, even if just for a few days.

As for the newbie, I think the place will blow your mind, especially with the help of this board. And I love reading the new experiences. I love reading all the experiences actually. The newbie can experience every level he wants, from Dollys to Black, Websites to Clarin, The Street to the Disco. It's your choice and this site provides the insight.

Speaking of Old and New, someone told me Hippoptamus is open again, (just down from Newport). That was the first club I went to in $ days, and I spend a wad with a goup of guys, and talked to lots of pretty girls, WOW! Then I was introduced to Newport the next night and as I was ussually by myself, found this environment a much lower key/ lower cost/ safer feeling site for my tastes until I found my legs.

So, newbies, be prepared for an unforgetable experience, and don't forget to eat steak and noquis.

MAG

MiddleAgeGuy,

Thanks for the info on Hippo. I used to love that place, but it was expensive. I tried to tell the owner to lower the price of his drinks, and he would have more business, but he would not hear of it. Latin Economics, when things are slow, raise prices. :)

Thanks gain,

Moondog

Two Weeks in BA

A summary of two wonderful weeks in BA.

Day 1

I arrive in BA on a Saturday after an all night flight from Bogota, Colombia on Avianca. By the way, I don’t recommend Avianca for overnight flights, the plane that I was on was quite old, the entertainment system didn’t work at all, the seats were so worn that one could actually feel the metal frame in the seat, and this was in Business Class! I can only imagine what coach felt like.

Upon arrival I had an experience that I have never had in all of my international travels…once I cleared customs in BA I went to a local ATM to take out cash, and the damn machine took my card and would not return it. Needless to say that this left me in a slight predicament. Fortunately I have multiple checking accounts that I care ATM cards for and I was able to use another card during the rest of my stay. So beware, caring one card is a risky proposition.

After making it to my hotel (Intercontinental in BA) I checked in and went to bed to get some rest after a very long night. Early in the afternoon I awoke for a date with the infamous Sandy ([blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]) who is well reviewed on CH with photos on Platynum. com. ar and a variety of other sites. Sandy is exactly as stated in the other reviews. She is short, fairly petite with nice breast and quite attractive overall. Best of all she is a complete lover with NO rules…and allow full BBBJTCNQNS for those of you that enjoy this sort of finish. She spent 4 hrs with me that afternoon in which we explored everything imaginable and ended after I simply could not offer up any more. The next 6 hrs were spent with me laying in bed icing my poor balls and taking vitamins to try and recover for a brief escapade later that nite.

At around 12am I decided to leave my hotel and check out Cattos which is not too far. I had a session with an old favorite (Sonia: [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]) by the way I posted a review of her in a previous report and erroneously called her Maria, sorry about the mistake). Sonia is from Paraquay…about 5’0” without shoes…full B to small C cup…all natural…hot little body and a wonderful lover. She as Sandy, is very liberal in bed (at least with me she is, although she tells me that she does not offer the same level of service to anyone…this is probably BS but as always YMMV). Anyway, with Sonia I was only able to muster 1 shot on goal (hey that is 4 in less than 12 hrs, a new record for me in my 40’s.) As with Sandy, Sonia took a full BBBJTC / facial for the first shot which was quite a sight.

By the way…one thing to be aware of with Sonia. She will take advantage of you if you don’t lay down the rules up front. I made a mistake of simply asking her to leave with me (Assuming that since we had seen each other before and I was a repeat client that she would take it easy on me and hope for more repeat business, no such luck. She asked for $600 pesos for 2 hrs! Right! I almost laughed in her face. I told her that I was simply not a fool and that she was jacking the price up (she should have been jacking me off again instead!) and we settled on $300 for 2 hrs.

Day 2

Day 2 was uneventful as I decided to get some work done to prepare for work on Monday…basically I sat on my ass and worked all day! I know, a total waste of a day in monger paradise.

Day 3

On Monday nite I decided to check out Madahos where I hooked up with Vibi ([blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]) Vibi is about a 7 in the face, but has a smoking little body, short 5’1” approx, with a real bubble but a true hottie in my book (just have to get beyond the face) As with the others, it was an incredible dash for the finish line with me offering up 2 servings of my special java over the course of 2 hrs, the first being my trademark porno finish (BBBJTC with facial) followed by a wonderful dousing of her wonderful ass for shot #2. This girl truly has a wonderful ass and loves to show it off. I really enjoyed her exhibitionistic tendencies which includes giving you ample views of the goods with lots of digits play for your enjoyment. A gem in my book and hopefully one that you will get to experience as well.

Day 4

The days are running together, but I believe that it was Tuesday that I ran into Moondog in BA (he was staying at the same hotel) and he and I went out to have dinner with the webmistress (Adriana) of Escortsbaires and Ricardo who started it and several other websites. We had a wonderful time, both Ricardo and Adriana are great people. Later Jim, Ricardo and I hit Madahos. Jim wasted no time finding his match for the nite. After about an hr, Jim left, Ricardo decided to go home, and, well I decided to take on one more for the gipper. She was a decent experience but I honestly cannot remember her name in information (I think it was Yokira or something like this) but needless to say it wasn’t memorable.

Day 5

For Day 5 I decided to stay in for the night and have some in-call I had contacted Aby (platinum. com) whom Jim had recommended ([blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]). Abby is very cute and also a good lover…she has had a kid and has a little softness to her, but has a wonderful body by anyones standard. I actually prefer women like this on many occasions as they are not so hung up on trying to have you see just how hard their ass is or how well defined their abs are…needless to say, we had a wonderful time. The date was for 1. 5 hrs…which was more like an Olympic boxing match. We traded heavy "blows" for over an hr before moving on to the finale. Once again she was a VERY liberal lover and asked for my special grand finale (I love it when the lady ask for it instead of you having to! ) She immediately got on her knees beside the bed while asking me to have a seat. She worked her magic for several minutes, which ended up with me providing her with a wonderful surprise. She and I were quite surprised and somewhat overwhelmed by the extent of things. It was one hell of a pop…actually ended up being 2 pops back to back (something I haven’t mustered for quite some time) and ended up with her on her back laughing her ass off. Needless to say, I was so damn weak that I couldn’t even get up to get to the bathroom to clean up. She was so damn sweet and actually brought warm, wet towels and cleaned me up while I tried to get catch my breath. This experience ended up with her giving me a new name…”lechero” which means "milkman" I wonder why? Anyway, I give Aby a 5 star endorsement…and must thank Moondog for the recommendation/introduction, which started it all.

Day 6

Day 6 was a long day as far as Cork goes, and ended up with me heading back to my hotel at around 7pm. Due to my exhaustion, I decided to order up some room serivce and take a short nap so that I could be ready for some action later on. At around 11pm I got up and headed out the door to my new favorite hang out Madahos. As usual at M’s there was quite a selection and it was damn tough to make up my mind. I went through several young ladies befote settling on a pettite little blonde named Emily. Emily was a sweet heart and wonderful company. After spending way too much money on drinks we decided to head back to the hotel for some real fun. Emily as most of the ladies that I encountered on this trip did not disappoint. She turned out to be extremely passionate in bed, a wonderful kisser, absolutely went wild with DATY and once again, had virtually no limits as far as activities. Once again the first pop was a BBBJTC which I and she greatly enjoyed. In the case of Emily, I did have to suggest the BBBJTC finale however, she left no doubt that she enjoyed it as well, you know what I mean, some ladies will "comply" since one has asked for it but they merely tolerate it, while others demsontrate their sincere enjoyment. Well as in the case of Aby (on day 5) the experience with Emily was simple spectacular! After round one, we relaxed had a few drinks and then slowly warmed up for round 2. This round was much slower, even "tender" if I might be so bold to say so, and ended in a much more conventional manner in missionary with mutual orgasms. UIT the right lady (and Emily is this type) this is truly the ultimate. I invited her to spend the night but due to other obligations she declined although we promised to see each other again later in the week. Emily’s contact information is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Day 7

Day 7 (Saturday) was spent recovering from the long week and trying to get over a GI track problem which reared its head after Emily left earlier in the morning. I literally did not leave my hotel today. I was simple in very bad shape and hended to try and nurse myself back to help. I ended up having to call the front desk and requesting a doctor who showed up about an hr later, she prescribed me some medication which I had the concierge pick up for me, by the following morning I felt much better.

Day 8

On Sunday I did a bit of shopping and had an excellent masaje from Todomasajes. com. I asked for an extremely busto young lady named Belen who showed up about 30 mintues later. Belen is attractive and possesses a huge all natural rack. She is quite short but has a nice body, her masaje was ok. but the extras were very good. She started out with me on my stomach working on my back and then working her way south to my legs, then back up to my ass and nether region which she stimulated with her fingers and tongue. After about 20 minutes on my stomach she asked me to roll over and as you can imagine "he" was standing at full attention. This of course did not go unnoticed by Belen who immediately begin with a BBBJ to get the rest of my attention. Needless to say once the BBBJ started the rest of the masaje went out the window. Belen was a wonderful lover and was quite vocal about what she liked. DATY was her favorite, and she was receptive to all positions and activities. The only thing not traed was Greek due to size sigues, other than that things were perfect. She is quite pettite so some care was needed in certain positions to avoid "lastimandola" but she was pager and willing in all! The finale with Belen was a BBBJ with the "deposit" being mainly on her beautiful tits which she kept licking and massaging until I was completely emptied. After this wonderful time, she stayed an extra tour and finished my masaje. It was quite relaxing and enjoyable but not quite up to par with the best masajes I have had in the orient. Belen’s contact information is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

Day 9

Once again the day was spent working with me returning to my hotel at 7pm or so. Again the same routine was followed (room service followed by a nap) from which I emerged and once again headed to Recoleta. I decided to drop by Affaire and Newport to see what I might dig up, but was disappointed and headed to the other side of the cemetery. I decided to go by Solid Gold which had a few lookers but none really warmed me up with a good feeling so I decided to go to Madahos.

Once in Madaho’s I immediately spotted a young dominicana that I had been eyeing with interest the other night. Her name is Carolina or Carol, she goes by both. This lass gentlemen had the best body of the trip. She is somewhat short (5’0” in my estimation) but my god what a body, incredibly natural tits (B-cup) and a full domincan bootie! We immediately hit it off, she very quickly put me at ease that all the activities that I was desiring were on the menu so we immediately left. Without going into too many details let me summarize with it was a VERY long nite…over 3 hrs of "balls to the walls" fucking and sucking…with her taking my very best. This lady was simply insatiable and was the BEST experience of the week. Some times one just has chemistry with a young lady and this was all that and then some. Everything I wanted she was game for including an incredible BBBJTC with full facial porno finish. She even took GREEK in that tight little ass (it was almost impossible to penetrate, but she was willing), the second pop was a full anal finish, and the third was with cowgirl. (for those of you wondering yes I did take some Vitamin V to last that long. As soon as I was done I kicked her ass out the door and collapsed in a heap on the bed. It was 3am and I had to get up at 7am for work! Carolina’s contact information is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

Day 10

As you have guessed by now, the day was spent once again working (I know it sucks, but it provides me with an excuse to get to BA for the nite life). Once again I ended up at Madahos. This time I did not really see anything in particular that I was eager to spend the night with so I left and went to Cattos.

At Cattos I saw an old friend, Susana, whom I had spoken with many times but never left with. Tonight she was looking extra fine so I decided to give her a whirl. There are many reviews of Susana on boards (CH, WSG, etc) so I will spare you the details, suffice to say that the reviews are true. She does offer an incredible porno finish to those of you who like this kind of disgusting stuff…like me! Susana stayed about 3 hrs and I gave her $300 pesos. Her contact info is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

Day 11

Once again after a long day at work I headed out to Madahos at around 11pm, it was really hopping tonight with lots of tender flesh for the picking…I ran into a hottie named Jacqueline…this was my least memorable date. She was decent looking but in the end was simply not my cup of tea, so chalk this one up to a wasted nite and a waste of $300 pesos. For those of you that want her info her number is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue], In case you are wondering we simply had no chemistry but maybe you will be the lucky one.

Day 12

My last full nite in BA and I was ready to rumble. Once again I headed to Madahos, and it wasn’t long before I was talking to Marcela. Now let me preface this by saying that I was looking for a lady with a bit more of a full figure tonite…something with a little more meat that would simply fuck me silly. Marcela fit the bill…she is carrying a few extra pounds (15lbs in my opinion) that could be lost. I would also discover that she has had a boob job, something which she lied to me about in earlier discussions. However, it would be unfair to characterize this as anything less than a spectacular cdate. She is from mar de plata…and has a beautiful face…her mouth is simply spectacular…this is actually what sold me on selecting her over some other ladies. You know how some ladies simply know how to kiss you to get your motor running…well this is Marcela. She caused me to get a woody from simply kissing me while in Madahos…something that does not happen often. She was a perfect girlfriend/**** in every way. When we made it back to the hotel, we played for over 2 hrs with her cumming atleast 3 times and me 2 twice. Her BBBJTC was the BEST of the trip and would rival that of any past experience…like I said it was her mouth that sealed the deal with me. Every position was explored including GREEK which both she and I enjoyed. My only complaint about Marcela was that at the end she rushed things in order to get back to Madahos…other than the last 15 minutes of the date it couldn’t have been better. As I said she is from Mar de Plata so her cell phone number is from there (she was in the process of getting a new one for BA) [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] She also gave me an email address should any of you wish to email her, email me and I will give it to you.

Day 13

Day 13 was a short day at work with me ending back at my hotel at around 2pm…after a quick phone call Emily was headed over. You will recall is the young lady from day 6…we spent the afternoon together with lots of talk and wonderful sex. She was a wonderful companion and the sex was even better the second time.

This summarizes a wonderful 13 days in BA…a trip that will forever be remembered and hopefully one that I will get to repeat in the next few months. Happy mongering!

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Excellent discussion. You guys write well.

It has not put me off going there again however the scene seems to be not as good as it used to be. Nostalgia just ain't as good as it used to be :).

My understanding from reading the contributions from others is that things have definitely changed. It has not put me off going there (I am in the process of planning my trip). I am not a hard core monger and I do like good quality. As Saint and Daddy have said, there is a premium for quality and I, for one, am willing to pay for it. It is just not sex but something more than that - an experience. Of course, one can never say at the outset that the quality of service will match the price but that is the luck of the draw. You can get bad service at any price. You can get good service at any price. I will even go further and say that the fixed price 150 pesos regime is not good for anyone as it does not differentiate anything. I will pay more for a beautiful, well dressed and elegant looking girl even if the sex is average. Its just the experience. The next day, I may prefer something else. Whatever takes my mood.

It is a truism that if the economy is good, the prices will be higher. The evidence for this is all over the world.

Nicely said, JD.

Moondog

Hey Jack Daniels,

I agree with you on the experience thing with my chica. I have VERY high standards on my TLN's, and manage to have outstanding looking, thin, young and hard girls for local's prices. Listen to Jackson about price/quality. I'll be Baires in October, PM me and I will show you some shit hot ass for pennies on the dollar. It may take us a little time to find it, but, it will all be honeymoon sex with great attitudes. Do not listen to those short sided ignorant bastards that call my kind "shit heads".

Stick to the likes of Andres, Dickhead, Jackson, myself, Saint, Exon etc.

Latina Addict

Daddy Rulz:

It appears you paid AR$120 at 1707, can you or any other monger on the ground confirm wether this was an anomaly :) (e.g. extra for a BBBJ) or have they hiked the rate?