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What are you reading? FOX SHIT?
[URL]http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cbs-poll-obamacare-repealed/2013/11/20/id/537683[/URL]
[QUOTE=Punter127;436660][B]CBS Poll: 84% of Democrats Want ObamaCare Changed or Repealed[/B]
There won't be any gratification in the failure of ObamaCare because so many Americans were hurt by it, but I hope it helps people realize the pitfalls of big government.[/QUOTE]
Walmart pays $8.18 cents an hour. There cost there for employees a year is $1700 + or. Salary a year.
The level of poverty rate in this country now is $23,000 a Year.
The company wants the workers to give there fellow workers Money or gifts, because of there low wages for the Holidays.
Walmart is largest employer in the World. They also sell the most food products in the world.
They can't give away a Free Turkey! They are the most greediest Mother Fuckers in the world.
Each of the family is worth Billions of dollars.
Just think how much you would be willing to share help our girl friends and their families for a few dollars.
They Need to Unionize, but the Republicans will not let Them Do it.
Or the Republican Supreme Court.
WTF.
Come On You guys are not that dis-hearted.
Eron123 or others tell us you Care about the people or the Republicans that Don't Care about them and you?
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436662]What are you reading? FOX SHIT?
[URL]http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cbs-poll-obamacare-repealed/2013/11/20/id/537683[/URL][/QUOTE]"CBS Poll: 84% of Democrats Want ObamaCare Changed or Repealed".
Dude can you read? That's from a "CBS poll". Now I guess CBS is on the same "FOX SHIT" list?
[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/big-government[/URL]
Added info: [highlight]"Just 7 percent of Americans think the Affordable Care Act is working well and should be kept in place as it is."[/highlight] That's from your Newsmax link WT.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436663]Walmart pays $8.18 cents an hour. There cost there for employees a year is $1700 + or. Salary a year.
The level of poverty rate in this country now is $2300 a Year.
The company wants the workers to give there fellow workers Money or gifts, because of there low wages for the Holidays.
Walmart is largest employer in the World. They also sell the most food products in the world.
They can't give away a Free Turkey! They are the most greediest Mother Fuckers in the world.
Each of the family is worth Billions of dollars.
Just think how much you would be willing to share help our girl friends and their families for a few dollars.
They Need to Unionize, but the Republicans will not let Them Do it.
Or the Republican Supreme Court.
WTF.
Come On You guys are not that dis-hearted.
Eron123 or others tell us you Care about the people or the Republicans that Don't Care about them and you?[/QUOTE]Would this be the same Walmart that Hillary ('What Difference Does It Make?) Clinton served on the board of directors? How many turkeys did she give away?
I was in my 20's. All of us felt there was hope for our country and then JFK was Killed, but when Bobbie was killed, I did not now how the world cared about US?
I was In Sweden when Robert was killed, Most People Were crying, I did not understand Swedish, but I asked what was happening. They told me that Robert Kennedy was killed. I thought how could a foreign Country Care about Us?
Now, I have been reading stories of kids about "where you were when when JFK was killed" "I remember where I was during my Apprenticeship in printing I was in my 20's," I did not know about kids 10 to 15 in those years felt, it brought tears to my eyes reading their stories in today's SF Chronicle. I cared and did not know how the rest of the world cared about us.
Ask a Kid today Who is the President? They do not know anythings about today's history? {There answer to who is the President is would be who cares?
Check What the Republican have done for you?
Do You Know What progress the Republicans has helped the workers in the last few Years?
Speak up or Apologize?
Answer is: NONE to help the workers!! Or Health Care!
Again what are the Plans?
I could not understand how a foreign country could feel any thing about who our next President could be? But they do.
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They Need to Unionize, but the Republicans will not let Them Do it.[/QUOTE]I do not like Walmart and seldom shop there for a variety of reasons, but you need to get your facts straight WT69. Walmart does not unionize because their employees (the same ones you say are below the poverty line) repeatedly vote against a union, not because "the Republicans will not let them do it". If Walmart is such a bad employer, why does each Walmart store opening have at least five applicants for every job available? I do not think Walmart pays enough, but I also cannot argue with the numbers, and do not believe that they should be forced or coerced into paying more when the numbers say that there are people willing to work for what they are offering.
Tres3.
There was an article in Bloomberg about this.
[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/how-mcdonald-s-and-wal-mart-became-welfare-queens.html[/URL]
In it the author says.
[QUOTE]Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest private sector employer, is also the biggest consumer of taxpayer supported aid. According to Florida Congressman Alan Grayson, in many states, Wal-Mart employees are the largest group of Medicaid recipients. They are also the single biggest group of food stamp recipients. Wal-mart’s "associates" are paid so little, according to Grayson, that they receive $1,000 on average in public assistance. These amount to massive taxpayer subsidies for private companies.
Why are profitable, dividend-paying firms receiving taxpayer subsidies? The short answer is, because they can. The longer answer is more complex and nuanced.
Both McDonald's and Wal-Mart are engaging in perfectly legal behavior. The system was set up long ago in ways that failed to imagine companies doing this. Yes, they are taking advantage of the taxpayer, but they are also operating within the law.[/QUOTE]As the author says, they aren't breaking the law in any way. They are operating within the law and we as taxpayers are subsidizing their success. This isn't something they do by accident, they have resources within their companies that help their employees sign up for public assistance. I know the guys out to the right are going to say remove the public assistance and the employees will leave, it's their (employee's) own fault that they didn't prepare themselves for greater success and I have no argument against that and to a degree I agree with that position.
I'm not sure if I agree with the Authors solution that raising the minimum wage is the answer, but I do see a certain poetry in the idea of charging back companies that pay a dividend for the amount of tax payer supported aid that their employees receive. I'm not saying I think we should do that but I do see a certain poetry in it. If the majority of your employee's are on public assistance and your company is extremely profitable then there is obviously something wrong with your compensation package. I don't think it would work because Walmart would just throw everybody to part time and say our hands are clean.
I really don't know what the solution is but it still irritates me that a substantial part of Walmarts bottom line is a result of the fact that, by design, their employee benefit package is largely comprised of public assistance which we all pay for.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;436511]I thought it was interesting that on Friday my investment portfolio hit another all-time high, the day after I got notified I was eligible for the health care subsidy. So now the DOW is up over 50% since we got rid of Bush and his ilk, PLUS I now have affordable health care for the first time since I retired. Now all you righties have to bear in mind that when I retired early, that opened up an opportunity for someone younger, and that opportunity would not have been there had I not retired. So if you get pissed off about subsidizing my health care, find that person who took my job and make him or her pay.
Obama: Good for your portfolio and good for your health.[/QUOTE]He is telling me to brush my teeth. He is telling me to exercise. He is telling me to give my money to the poor. He is telling me to think of others. He is telling me too much! How can I enjoy my life when he is giving me all these shit. I need freedom, I need liberty. I need an ass-rim job after breakfast, a blow job after lunch, and a 3-girl all out no prisoners fuckfest after midnight.
Tell him he is fucking up my life.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436667]Their wages equal to 17,00 a year, the national poverty level is $23,000 per year.[snip][/QUOTE]Poverty level for an individual is $11,495 after inflation not $23,000. Your $23,000 number is for a family of four, according to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.
[url]http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/12computations.shtml[/url]
So at $8.18 per hour or $17,014 per year the individual is $5,519 a year above poverty level.
If you want to use the family of four number I think you have to assume two adults of working age, so you can double the $17,014 per year, so the families yearly income would be $34,028 which is $11,028 above poverty.
Don't we have a federal minimum wage law for just this reason?
I'm not defending Walmart but let use the real numbers.
Question, WT where did you get the $8.18 number?
I watch so many news channels I do not know which one it was.
But this may help you.
[URL]http://useconomy.about.com/od/glossary/g/Federal_Poverty_Level.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=Punter127;436676]Poverty level for an individual is $11,495 after inflation not $23,000. Your $23,000 number is for a family of four, according to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.
[url]http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/12computations.shtml[/url]
So at $8.18 per hour or $17,014 per year the individual is $5,519 a year above poverty level.
If you want to use the family of four number I think you have to assume two adults of working age, so you can double the $17,014 per year, so the families yearly income would be $34,028 which is $11,028 above poverty.
Don't we have a federal minimum wage law for just this reason?
I'm not defending Walmart but let use the real numbers.
Question, WT where did you get the $8.18 number?[/QUOTE]
I have heard this so many times. The workers are afraid to vote for the Union because if they did they would be fired.
[QUOTE=Tres3;436669]I do not like Walmart and seldom shop there for a variety of reasons, but you need to get your facts straight WT69. Walmart does not unionize because their employees (the same ones you say are below the poverty line) repeatedly [b]vote against a union[/b], not because "the Republicans will not let them do it". If Walmart is such a bad employer, why does each Walmart store opening have at least five applicants for every job available? I do not think Walmart pays enough, but I also cannot argue with the numbers, and do not believe that they should be forced or coerced into paying more when the numbers say that there are people willing to work for what they are offering.
Tres3.[/QUOTE]
Washington Times, November 19,2013.
"The law was a costly mistake, but at least it started us on the road to much needed health care reform, and it authors can be proud of the fact."
A nice way to say "let's work together". But for the Hatfields vs McCoys feud. Shi'a vs Sunni. The issues are irrelevant, the ideology reign supreme. The extremists in America are no different from the Muslim fundamentalists that we so despise. So proud, so stubborn, so divisive. Sitting so pretty, feeling good & dismissive just because they have a little more cash in their pockets than the other guy
Did you oppose voting rights, women's rights, labor rights like your forefathers? Who are you?
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;436679]I have heard this so many times. The workers are afraid to vote for the Union because if they did they would be fired.[/QUOTE]WT,
I assume that you know that the DOJ investigates allegations of employee intimidation in unionization votes, right?
I defy you to find one example in the past 10 years where a federal investigation resulted in a conviction in a case where company employees were intimidated into refraining from voting in a unionization vote by agents of the company.
Of course, it's entirely possible that the company employees know that the unions will eventually destroy their jobs.
Does anybody remember the 1979 movie "Norma Rae" in which the union organizers were successful in organizing the textile factory where Norma worked.
Does anybody know what actually happened to the textile industry in the South after the wave of factory unionization's? That's right, in the next 30 years, all of those factories closed and the jobs moved overseas.
I understand the same thing happened to the printing industry in San Francisco, but I could be mistaken.
Thanks,
Jackson.
"[I]Facts aren't important to liberals. Only emotion is important.[/I]"
From Steven Hayward, Forbes, November 11,2013.
"While liberals are in dismay, they should recognized that ObamaCare may well have achieved its chief purpose of making universal care or at least greatly expanded health coverage a fixture of American social policy.
So, stop the foaming at your mouth!
Here is one.
[URL]http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/31/union-busting-tacticsondisplayatduluthgaplant.html[/URL]
I remember some that happened in the past, but I can not remember the company names.
Yes, the Printers Union lost many jobs because of Outsourcing.
Why pay Union wages, if you can pay someone $1 or $2 a day to do the work, with no health care benefits.
Oh yes, you mean the 8 stories that collapsed killing the textile workers. Remember the illustration I posted?
[QUOTE=Jackson;436684]WT,
I assume that you know that the DOJ investigates allegations of employee intimidation in unionization votes, right?
I defy you to find one example in the past 10 years where a federal investigation resulted in a conviction in a case where company employees were intimidated into refraining from voting in a unionization vote by agents of the company.
Of course, it's entirely possible that the company employees know that the unions will eventually destroy their jobs.
Does anybody remember the 1979 movie "Norma Rae" in which the union organizers were successful in organizing the textile factory where Norma worked.
Does anybody know what actually happened to the textile industry in the South after the wave of factory unionization's? That's right, in the next 30 years, all of those factories closed and the jobs moved overseas.
I understand the same thing happened to the printing industry in San Francisco, but I could be mistaken.
Thanks,
Jackson.
"[I]Facts aren't important to liberals. Only emotion is important.[/I]"[/QUOTE]