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Bad,
I believe that Jackjack1 used the word "overwhelming" in reference to the array of available choices of chicas in Madahos, and not specifically to his or anyone else's ability to understand the pricing structure therein.
Jackjack1,
Due to their practice of paying bounties to hotel employees and taxi drivers, my guess is that Madahos and certainly Black receive [strike]an overwhelming percentage[/strike] a majority of the first-time visitors to BA, a sizable number of whome apparently manage to survive the ordeal.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=BadMan]We are all grown ass men here that make our own decisions. Are you suggesting we coddle newbies or something? I don't think we as men need babysitting or any of that.
General pricing guide lines are clearly discussed in this and other threads. In fact myself and another AP member just posted 2 price specific reviews about Madahos, one of which (mine) is still visible on this first page.
So I don't see how the " overwhelming and costly " comment would make sense.
This thread states the prices. So if I or another reviewer say " Prices at Madahos are $ 200-300 USD " and an AP member goes to Madahos and the price is $ 200-$ 300, how exactly would that overwhelm him?
Any man that is " overwhelmed " by going to a strip club, well I just won't comment on that.
AP only works if you R-E-A-D it, and if you read it before coming to BA (not just this thread) you will have a very good idea about pricing in PV's, websites, Recoleta clubs etc.
And from that, members can form their own opinions and make their own choices knowing beforehand the pricing structure of every establishment they visit.
Regards,
BM
[QUOTE=Jackjack1]Again, for the newbee, getting thrown into this place on their first night in Bs As may be so overwhelming and costly that they may leave Bs As with the wrong feeling. I can see both sides here.
Jack[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
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I'm sorry, but again the thought of a grown man being " overwhelmed " by going to a strip club makes me think we are talking about adolescents and not " grown ass men ".
Lol, but yes, they make it out alive and in one piece, though possibly a few Benjamin's lighter for their troubles.
Oh the humanity.
Regards,
BM.[QUOTE=Jackson]Bad,
I believe that Jackjack1 used the word "overwhelming" in reference to the array of available choices of chicas in Madahos, and not specifically to his or anyone else's ability to understand the pricing structure therein.
Jackjack1,
Due to their practice of paying bounties to hotel employees and taxi drivers, my guess is that Madahos and certainly Black receive [strike]an overwhelming percentage[/strike] a majority of the first-time visitors to BA, a sizable number of whome apparently manage to survive the ordeal.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
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Avoid, Avoid, Avoid!
[QUOTE=Tony Nelson]Badman, you sound convincing. Just arrived in BA and look forward to test-driving the Audi. Will report back. Also wanted to try Black and Cocodrillo. Anything else?[/QUOTE]NO DON'T! These are rip-off joints. Don't set foot in Madaho's, Black or any other boliche. They charge money to go in these places. They're vipers that way. They also expect you to pay for your drinks -- can you believe it? And, to top it off, once you've paid for your entry and your drink, the girls aren't even included. You have to rent them separately! It's just a den of iniquity. The fools that run these places have been charging too much for years. It's a wonder anyone goes in there at all. I went once and the place was packed. Everybody was smiling and pretending to have a good time, but I could tell that they all were just dumb tourists. Plus, once you get past all the pretty faces with fake, round breasts and great asses, there's not much left. Most of them are just pretty, dumb chicas who charge money. Avoid!
For that matter, don't go to any of the nicer restaurants while you are in BA, either. The nicer places have been known to charge more than the not-so-nice places. Sure, they occasionally serve better food or maybe the ambience is better, but they're more EXPENSIVE. Double Avoid!
Also, stay away from the privados and masajistas. The folks at these places will expect you to pay them. Not only that, but some of them will expect you to pay them more this year than they wanted you to pay them last year. This is especially true of the more popular places -- they even think you should pay more just because everyone else seems to like their services. Only in BA could they get away with something like that. Stupid Argies. And, don't fall for their BS about inflation.
Also, stay away from the street walkers. Those dumb chicas just keep raising their prices. The less business they get, the more they charge. Idiotas! If you pay them, they'll think they can get away with it again and they'll continue to charge others. You'll ruin everything for the local mongers.
Well, Tony, if you haven't already spent some of your hard earned money having a good time somewhere, let me see if I can save you the trouble. Don't go to any of these places and don't give anyone your money. Instead, just sit in that apartment or hotel room and do nothing. If you must do something, you could go out for a good long walk or jack off. They're both usually free in BA, although I've heard that the government is working on a tax for both activities once they get done with the &^%&% farmers, so you'd better hurry.
Good luck. Hopefully, you've read these comments before you went out and got laid so that you can save a whole bunch of money rather than wasting it having a good time.
By the way, how much are they ripping you off for that hotel or apartment you're staying in?
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Again, Understood.
[QUOTE=BadMan]We are all grown ass men here that make our own decisions. Are you suggesting we coddle newbies or something? I don't think we as men need babysitting or any of that.
General pricing guide lines are clearly discussed in this and other threads. In fact myself and another AP member just posted 2 price specific reviews about Madahos, one of which (mine) is still visible on this first page.
So I don't see how the " overwhelming and costly " comment would make sense.
This thread states the prices. So if I or another reviewer say " Prices at Madahos are $ 200-300 USD " and an AP member goes to Madahos and the price is $ 200-$ 300, how exactly would that overwhelm him?
Any man that is " overwhelmed " by going to a strip club, well I just won't comment on that.
AP only works if you R-E-A-D it, and if you read it before coming to BA (not just this thread) you will have a very good idea about pricing in PV's, websites, Recoleta clubs etc.
And from that, members can form their own opinions and make their own choices knowing beforehand the pricing structure of every establishment they visit.
Regards,
BM
[/QUOTE]My point was that from what I've seen, this forum provides information, experiences, levity etc. Whether newbees need coddling or not is irrelevant. I think that people can read this forum and make up their minds whether Madajos or Black are ripoffs or not. In my case, I'm glad that I've read varied opinions about the different clubs and privados. I'll sort through the info and make up my own mind. I'm not saying that I'm anti-Madajos or similar clubs, but thanks to the wealth of experiences here, I'm more prepared when and if I ever do go into one of these clubs. The "overwhelming and costly" comment comes from other contributors to this forum that have experiences that are different than yours. Bottom line, I'm in agreement with you, we all are adult men, but I thank Jackson and this band of crazy mongers for giving me a peek into the inner workings of the Bs As nightlife and for sponsoring this site which is a research tool for those of us that are unseasoned and otherwise clueless.
Life is a box of Snickers, don't forget to remove the wrapper.
Jack
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Hey JackJack,
I understand your point of view . But what does that mean?
Is that like code for BBFS or something?
Regards,
BM
[QUOTE=Jackjack1]Life is a box of Snickers, don't forget to remove the wrapper.
Jack[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Big Bob 7]Clearly another economic crash is in the works in Argentina (as in the rest of the world) I have a question for long time residents or others who visited BA right after the last crash. How long did it take for these higher end providers to realize that they HAD to lower their prices? I am assuming that a little bit before the last economic crisis they were probably still trying to raise their prices even though their customer base was evaporating. That seems to be what is happening right now. Immediately after the crash did many of the girls just stop working at Black and Madahos for lack of customers and move to other clubs and privados or did they just stop working altogether? I have seen some posts from foreign visitors before the crash and they report paying almost the same prices in Black that you guys are paying now and the prices were much lower even when I was living in BA a couple of years ago so they had to have gone down at some point.
Your shameless cheapskate bargain-basement monger,
Bob[/QUOTE]Bob, Argentina is not heading for any economic crash. It's economy has always been just one big train wreck! That's why most Argentines can't understand all this fuss about World economy and recession, it's just more of the same to them.
The high end providers (or the low end ones come to that) never brought their prices down. What happened was that when the Peso was one to a Dollar, a girl charging 300 pesos was getting 300 Dollars. When the devaluation changed that the girl was still charging 300 Pesos but that was only 100 Dollars!
So for locals earning and spending in Pesos there was hardly any change in prices and remember the girls live on the locals and not Gringo now and then.
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[QUOTE=BadMan]Hey JackJack,
I understand your point of view. But what does that mean?
Is that like code for BBFS or something?
Regards,
BM.[/QUOTE]Not at all, something a chick said once to me.
Jack
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[QUOTE=BadMan]I will be the first to say, European girls, Eastern Europeans in particular are heads and tails above Argentina's.
But I know what your saying. I would much rather pass on Madahos and enjoy a good eastern European hottie any day of the week.[/QUOTE]Just as a point of reference, I saw this 19 year old Hungarian girl at that FKK club past Sunday. Unlike most escort website photos in BA, in person this girl look exactly like the attached photos. But I did not session with her. Why you might ask? Because the girls I did session with were even better looking than her. And all for 50€ each. That's why I won't be visiting Madaho anytime soon with thier current rate.
Also, I was only comparing chica prices as visiting monger. I have no idea the cost of real estate in either places.
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Now you see, that's not fair.
Seeing that makes me want to hop on a plane and never come back.
But yeah, EEU has the best girls.
But shhhhhhhhh don't tell everybody or they will ruin it for the rest of us.
Regards,
BM
[QUOTE=Sportsman]Just as a point of reference, I saw this 19 year old Hungarian girl at that FKK club past Saturday. Unlike most escort website photos in BA, in person this girl look exactly like the attached photos. But I did not session with her. Why you might ask? Because the girls I did session with were even better looking than her. And all for 50€ each. That's why I won't be visiting Madaho anytime soon with thier current rate.
Also, I was only comparing chica prices as visiting monger. I have no idea the cost of real estate in either places.[/QUOTE]
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I am one of the Audi drivers in this thread. Plus I like going out late at night and banging hot girls in a night club setting. Tall morocha's with a big rack to be exact.
I don't live in BA, I visit once maybe twice a year. When I am there I am on vacation and I want the best.
I also visit 100p privados during the day, and the occasional streetwalker at night. Equal opportunity.
I like Madahos due to the fact you can buy a chica an overpriced drink and then make out on the couch for an hour to see how friendly she is.
I have had two of my top three sessions come from Madahos. The other is Heidi from AVIP. I was in BA about 6 months ago. I thought Black was going down hill, and Madahos had the girls.
If your on the economy plan go in and get phone numbers to call during the day.
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[QUOTE=Gato Hunter]I like going out late at night and banging hot girls in a night club setting. Tall morocha's with a big rack to be exact. I don't live in BA, I visit once maybe twice a year. When I am there I am on vacation and I want the best.[/QUOTE]I can definately relate to this.
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Sportsman, the 50€ typically being for a half hour session, corresponding hour rate would be 100€ or about 450 pesos. Though still cheaper than Madahos.
I like the FKK format and have done my share (at least 5 different clubs) It's fun but rather business-like. Relax and then have sex. Relax and have sex again. You can't chat too long with the girls or fool around much, before long the girl will move on if you are not going to take her, or (with your consent) she will start blowing you or something to get the clock started. The overt near-nakedness of people also does not make for a sexy atmosphere. Like I said I do find the FKKs enjoyable, but the BA night club format is very different and more appealing to me.
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[QUOTE=Gato Hunter]I am one of the Audi drivers in this thread. Plus I like going out late at night and banging hot girls in a night club setting. Tall morocha's with a big rack to be exact.
I don't live in BA, I visit once maybe twice a year. When I am there I am on vacation and I want the best.
I also visit 100p privados during the day, and the occasional streetwalker at night. Equal opportunity.
I like Madahos due to the fact you can buy a chica an overpriced drink and then make out on the couch for an hour to see how friendly she is.
I have had two of my top three sessions come from madahos. The other is Heidi from AVIP. I was in BA about 6 months ago. I thought Black was going down hill, and Madahos had the girls.
If your on the economy plan go in and get phone numbers to call during the day.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gato! This sounds like how I want to roll; are these girls flexible on price or is it pretty much standard at Madahos according to Jackson price list? My negotiating game is on point and I love to have fun negotiating!
Musze
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One interesting tidbit - per my notes the 50€ FKK price was standard when I last went in 2005. So between 05-09 no inflation at the Germany FKKs vs. an almost doubling of prices in BA.
Musze - you should be able to get the price down to 500 pesos for most (not all) chicas at Madahos. But you will be lucky if you get lower.
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[QUOTE=Musze3000]Thanks Gato! This sounds like how I want to roll; are these girls flexible on price or is it pretty much standard at Madahos according to Jackson price list? My negotiating game is on point and I love to have fun negotiating!
Musze[/QUOTE]Spanish knowledge divided by your looks times your street smarts equals what you will pay.