Further evidence it's useless to try to hold back the hordes. I read a lot of regular travel boards and at least once a day, someone asks about BA. There follow a bunch of replies about how good the clubs are wink wink. It's hit the mainstream.
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Further evidence it's useless to try to hold back the hordes. I read a lot of regular travel boards and at least once a day, someone asks about BA. There follow a bunch of replies about how good the clubs are wink wink. It's hit the mainstream.
Well I have seen a lot more for example Australians in the clubs. I ran into two in Nuevo Estilo and a group of four in Catto's just in the last week. However in NEB these two guys were talking about whether they could get these "chicks" to come back to their hotel for free. Not. Also they spoke no Spanish.
The four in Catto's were shit faced and were openly complaining about how nobody spoke English. Hello? My point is that I see quite a bit more people from Europe, Australia, even Mexico, down here but I haven't noticed a proportional increase in Americans or Canadians. I wonder if that is a focus point of the tourism industry here, getting more non-American but English-speaking tourists.
But pussy wise I pulled what I felt to be a nice girl out of Ness tonight for 130 after buying her a quick drink. I was tired of shorter gals and I wanted a minimum of 10-12 years of experience for what I had in mind. I took Lourdes who is about 5'6" and 33 years old (my estimate). She was a trouper so I was going to give her 140 but she ended up with 100p + $15 US. A very good kisser who I've had somewhere in the middle of my list for a year or so but hadn't gotten around to. Maybe good for a nooner down the road.
I have not noticed general inflation in the price of pussy as compared to last year. I've seen some specific inflation, most lamentably at Maipú 429 and Guemes 3221 which have both gone from 80 to 100 an hour. However my favorite alfajor has gone from 80 to 90 centavos so that is certainly a consideration.
I noticed Delta will resume flight in December. That's a couple hundred more mongers per day!
It's good news, really. Argentina is too nice of a country to have 60+% poverty.
The number of posts in this forum have grown exponentially since '01! Sure there's more competition for goods, but seems to be easily absorbed by supply. Prices are still around half of '00 prices/ US dollar -- and the dollar is weak!
I cannot wait to visit and cannot wait to meet Jackson one day. He has directly/indirectly saved/cost me money in at least 20 states and 12 countries! The least I can do is buy dinner from him once.
See everyone in January!
Jav'
A brand New Adventure begins for the Mouse has landed for a four day stint.
The LCN is up and running with the word of the Mouse's arrival. Many traps will be set to see who will be the first to catch the infamous mouse. Be careful out there, and enjoy the life. :)
Moondog
A quickie before I get on the plane.
Went back to 921 and the chica I was looking for wasn’t there and neither of the others was worth my time so I boogied.
Took Andres advice and checked out 429 Maipu. Fuck Andres, what do I owe you? Dinner, a couple a beers and a visit to the apartment of your choice? Let me know, I was seriously impressed. Good location Maipu and Corrientes. There were 5 chicas available all dressed like secretary’s. The reseptionista was a charm with my horrible Castillano. I chose Sophia slender morocha with blonde highlights. Face 8, body 9.9999999999999 She was dressed in heels, hose, lace and skirt and top. Easily on par with anybody at Madaho´s.
I spoke to the reseptionista for a minute and discovered that service is completa including anal and BBBJ with out an extra propina. The cost was 100ar for an hour.
We went down the hall; they have the whole floor, to the apartment. It was a studio with a private bathroom clean and well kept. For the boss there wasn’t a single light over the bed, rather a black light on the wall. Mirror on the wall. Over all very nice.
Service was excellent, excellent to the point that unless things change by my next visit I may not return to 1707 anymore as I noticed a slight decrease in the beauty of the chicas there. I’m not knocking any of the sessions there. They were serviceable and I was happy but the quality was really a couple notches higher at 429. Of the five chicas any were very doable IMHO.
Highlights of the session, BBBJ very good, multi positions including the final frontier, and interesting technique, we went through several of MY CONDOMS because between each position she would refresh with BBBJ, I liked it. Hit the high note with no problem.
Cost 100ar plus a 20ar propina. I don’t know how other guys think about propinas but I do it for the same reason I tip a mosa. I want to be remembered on my next visit if the session was above average. I don’t think it drives up the price because it’s a surprise and always well received. I think it has something to do with Argentines not tipping much.
Notes
:Quick response to the buzzer, I hate standing out in the street.
:absolutely no rush for time, I was there from 1415 until almost 1600 and never heard a knock on the door. YMMV perhaps due to slow business and it being my first visit there. Seems to me I would want to give a little extra to a first time buyer. I paid for an hour and got almost two.
:I can’t stress enough MARsomthings philosophy. Teat them like ladies and the will treat you like you single handily won the Argentinean revolution. I gave her some serious DATY, to completion I think, or else we may have to award duel Oscars this year for simulated orgasms. She was bucking her hips so hard she hurt my mouth a little. Afterwards she made a determined effort to flay the skin off El Pene in a very nice kind of way. Plus I love getting my face ALL in it.
In summation, great time and it will be my first choice on subsequent visits.
Happy Hunting, see you guys in 6 weeks.
Sorry about the lateness of this addendum, but I wanted to take the time to think about what I am saying. I think I am entitled because some of you, in your zeal to defend your positions, are trying to create an image of me that isn't true.
For those who would paint me as a person who looks for cheap women in "small, dingy apartments" or who tries to beat down women in price just for the sake of "bargain sex", let me set you straight. Perhaps I can in the process demonstrate the issues a little more clearly.
I lived in BA for 1 year straight in the Dazzler Hotel. That cost $US18,000. I had progressively nicer rooms(not that tiny crap on the top floor), until for the last 6 months I had the largest, nicest, type room in the place. I had value. I like hotels, not apartments. For the location, the view, the quality of the room, the security, convenience, and price it could not be beat. I found out about the Dazzler thru this forum. I appreciate that. I would probably have found it on my own, because I visited EVERY probable hotel to check the value situation. But that took 3-4 weeks. Do you want to know my room numbers during that year? Good luck. There are only 3 of them, so who should be the lucky people? (BTW, I hope this doesn't cause a rush on the Dazzler.)
Do you remember the problem of Art Suites? A great small hotel that was changing its guest policy because of the abuses of some idiots from the forum? Saint, you were one of the guys trying to help cool down the situation with them. When there was only a small group of hotels In Argentina links and everyone was beating them to death? A classic example of the problems that can be created by the forum. Fortunately, there are many hotels and apartments in BA. So the list expanded until there is now a large enough pool that there haven't been problems lately. Great.
I now have the best hotel room in this Argentina city. It is a suite on the top floor, with a balcony overlooking the central plaza, church, city hall, and half the city. With a beautiful view of the river on the horizon, and another city accross the river. When it is all lit up at night, the view is spectacular. There is only one such room in this town. Forget about the number. I visited every hotel and looked at rooms to find it. It took 3 days. If you go to the best hotel in town, you will have a terrible view, and the rooms there aren't bad, but nowhere near as nice. My room costs just a little more than the ones in the "best" hotel. I have been here for over 6 weeks, and have this room until I want to leave here.
I don't EVER see women in apartments, or brothels, or short time hotels near a bar like at Salome, except to check a woman out to get her number. I ONLY see women in my hotel, and prefer TLN. Sometimes, I like to buy a woman out of work so she doesn't NEED another client. If I see her regularly a few nights a week, this is possible, because a fair TLN rate is so much better for the woman and it is guaranteed money. It works better with SW, because they don't have to quit a club job. But I have had 2 women quit BA clubs. I can support 1-2 women at once in this way, and I don't get sloppy seconds.
So right now I enjoy my 20YO $ar150 9pm-9am women from my $ar126 hotel room with its magnificent view. This is better than a room at the Alvear Palace in BA, with a girl from Black, and it costs far less. But only one person at a time can do this. The BA tourist exploiters can handle whatever volume, and will do whatever is necessary to ensure they can accomodate whatever volume with some kind of tourist experience, at A TOURIST COMPETITIVE COST, not a LOCAL COMPETITIVE COST.
Want to talk about helping the women? I have built 2 houses for women in Paraguay. Those small starter cement and stone houses they have in the small pueblos only cost $US2-4000, if they build it on their mother's lot. I built one for a Paraguayan while in BA and 1 for a woman while I was in Paraguay. I have bought a couple of washers and refrigerators. My current favorita has bought a new kitchen stove, clothes and bicycles for her kids, paid over a year of past due water bills and gotten herself generally in much better shape. She is saving to buy a public housing house, that will cost about $US1000. I have paid for dental repair for rotten teeth. And so on. I did all of this without seriously overpaying the market. Mostly because I buy a lot of service from the women, and they thereby earn a high net take home income. My top budget is $US100/day average for women. That's $US36,500/year on top of my housing and other expenses. How many of you tourist mongers does it take to contribute that much to Argentina? But I am not going to throw that money at tourist exploiters.
Moondog, to claim that the women are in need of help is not a good argument. How much do you give the blind guy in the street? The woman begging with her children? Why not more? Everyone is needy. So what is your justification again?
I help the women more with my money because I pay them directly, usually without bar fees. One of the problems of the tourist exploiter situation is the women are often not better off. How many web sites and apartments charge a commission to the women? The ridiculous drink prices and bar fees help a very few bar owners, not the women. I try not to use any place like Rio Cabaña where the house collects the money, because the opportunity to exploit the woman is too strong. And as the price rises for these women in Madahos and Black, the number of women working there tends to increase, while the volume for each woman declines. So a woman could well end up with a smaller net take home.
I hate high bar fees, excessive drink prices, leaching bartenders and doormen, or any place or web site that charges a commission. They do nothing to improve my life or the women's. The tourist exploiters are more often people who are supported by the work of the women than the women themselves. Which is one reason the value for the tourist does not increase proportionately to cost.
The reason I can do what I am doing here is because I am competing with the local economy, not the tourist economy. I have far more money than the locals, and can thus afford the best that is available at local prices, every day of the year. This creates for me tremendous value. The fact is that I can do this in most of the local economies in the US as well, because I have more money than most in the US. But I cannot compete well in the US sex market, inflated by law enforcement, or the US tourist or business markets.
Remember, the tourist economy is not value oriented. It is oriented toward extracting the maximum amount of money the tourists are willing to throw away on vacation. The business economy is oriented toward the maximum expense accounts. The local economy is how you live when you visit a relative in another city with your own money.
Because I am one person, paying local prices, I am not going to affect this market, even though the sex industry here is truly tiny, less than 50 women total. But because BA is so big, it is a little too complicated to picture. This little city is easier. There are no clubs or web sites. The total sex industry is basically SW and hotel recommendations. Now, there are few foreign tourists, no mongers. The difference is important because a South American is very likely to behave like a local without help. Total monger-tourist days/month here are probably less than 1, excluding me(I am 25 days).
But what would happen if an average of 10 tourists/day tried to do this(300 days/month). Obviously, only 1 could have my room, but there are enough rooms to accomodate 10 easily. If they made use of this forum, and paid local prices for women, they would cause something of a problem initially because of the small number of women. Some people would have to take lower quality women, others do without. But in time, the number of women would increase to accomodate the additional customers. Everyone would benefit, because the selection would increase, both for the locals and the tourists. Relatively, the women would all be making the same amount of money each even with the larger numbers.
But what if they don't use this forum? What if most of these tourists overpaid the market, either by offering gross tips or paying a high asking price to someone smart enough to try to exploit tourists? The word would go out, ask the tourists for more money. And a system of 2 tier pricing would begin. The women would be desirous of the tourist business. But the tourists would not necessarily get the best women. This is part of the problem. ACCESS to the tourists becomes the most valuable commodity. Everyone who has ACCESS to the tourists will try to push women they know, and can make a deal with. And they will take a cut for the introduction: concierges, hotel clerks, cabbies. Someone might well start a club or web site for foreigners. So the women the tourists will tend to get are not the best, but the women that are connected with the people with access to the tourists. To some extent, the concierges, et al, will try to find higher level women. But it is not the number one priority. Which is why there are bad news women in Madahos, Black, and the web sites.
So what happens is the women with access to the tourist mongers will try to charge more. And tend to ignore the locals. The locals will get these women only in idle periods. The people with the most difficult problem are the foreigners with market knowledge. It will be hard for them to get a local price, but not impossible. It will not likely bring many more women into the business than if the tourists paid local prices, because the volume is the same. The women involved are likely be the same in either case. If it does bring in a few more women, the women are hurt. Who benefits? The people with ACCESS to the tourists benefit most. These are the worst exploiters. And the women connected to the people with the best access will benefit some. Who loses? The tourists, because they pay more, but they don't care much. The locals, and those who behave as locals, lose big time. THEY ARE FORCED TO COMPETE WITH TOURIST PRICES FOR THE SAME WOMEN THEY WOULD HAVE HAD ANYWAY. Now, do you understand how you can lose friends in a country?
I have had a taste of the 2 tier pricing here. My first day, a woman who works the best hotel tried to hit me for $ar100/hr. So she knew something of tourist prices. I told her: "That is ridiculous.", and walked away. I have also seen the resentment. In San Jose, Costa Rica, when I was going to Spanish school, I happened to meet one of the instructors in the Hotel del Rey with 2 of his friends. He told me: "We can only come to look. These girls are not for us", with a sick expression on his face. But not all the del Rey women were tops in anything but money. How strongly do you think these guys support prostitution, especially at the del Rey?
So, let them tell you that it is better in Madahos and Black. It is, to some degree in terms of average looks, but likely to be worse in attitude. You all agree that if you once pay a woman $ar200, it is practically impossible to reduce that price when you see her again. Unfortunately, when a woman has been paid $us500 for a night a few times, that becomes her benchmark. You now have to beat that to impress her. Anything less and you are just a chump, and if you beat it you are still a chump. That is why they have a crappy attitude. It is hard to convince a Black woman she just won the lottery with your offer. And individually, it is possible to find women in other places just as beautiful as Black. One of my women who quit another club for me had been at Black a couple years before, at more reasonable prices. 22YO, absolutely beautiful face and body. I saw her for 5 months regularly(she built a house next to her mother's in Paraguay and went home).
The web sites situation is ridiculous. I will say now what I should have said a year ago. What is going on with you guys and the web is the worst example of tourist expoitation. And the absolute worst, in your face, "I am trying to rip you off and don't care who knows it", example of this is the dual web site nonsense of escorts-argentina.com, and escortsbaires.com.ar. Where they deliberately attempt to offer the same women to the tourists for 3 times a HIGH MARKET price on escorts-argentina that are also on the escortsbaires.com.ar site for everyone, but presumably more for locals, unpriced. And anyone promoting or condoning that crap cannot possibly be thought of as being on the side of the mongers.
Generally, many or most of the web women also work regularly at apartments, many of which offer take-out for near the same price as in-call. Thus, you call that woman on the web and there is a good chance she will finish with a local for $ar60-80 and then go with you for $ar150-300. I don't know what the web site cut is, but they aren't doing this for the good of the women. If you called her at the apartment, theoretically you can get the apartment price. BUT YOU MUST BE AWARE OF THE APARTMENT PRICE TO GET IT, VIA THIS FORUM. Remember that 2 tier pricing can be practiced by apartments also. The issue here is that the web is taking advantage of their superior ACCESS to the tourist-mongers who DO NOT FOLLOW THE MARKET IN THE FORUM AND BEHAVE ACCORDINGLY.
To try to conclude this, please understand that I am not really in favor of restricting access to the information in this forum. If you read this carefully, you will see that we are all best served by the tourist monger becoming as much as possible like a local. For those mongers who do not want to be aware of the local situation, we are best served by sending them to the tourist exploiters, who will give them a tourist experience, just like they do in Jamaica and Las Vegas. The tourist exploiters will actually serve them best, without hurting us much more, since especially in BA the exploiters already exist. The greatest damage is to send the person who wants a tourist experience into a situation where they need market knowledge. Also understand that I support the forum and plan to continue, because I am a firm supporter of men's rights and believe that the right to contractual sex is one of the most fundamental of them. But I do not want to hurt myself.
Finally, I am sorry, but I am much amused by this idiotic discussion of value at Black and the total experience and the "value costs money" nonsense. You guys are the same people who buy Johnny Walker Black or Chivas Regal on vacation and swear its better. Or buy Dom Perignon champagne because it is expensive, without knowing that YOU ACTUALLY MAY NOT LIKE THE TASTE THAT MAKES IT EXPENSIVE. LIKE DINNER WINE, IT IS A VERY PERSONAL THING. THERE IS NO SET RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COST TO PRODUCE AND THE PREFERENCE OF THE DRINKER. YOU ARE BEST SERVED BY KNOWING WHAT YOU LIKE AND WHICH BRAND HAS THAT TASTE. THAT IS MARKET KNOWLEDGE. I have done a champagne tasting on 17 different champagnes one after another, in professional format, as well as various other smaller tastings and I know what I am saying. The marketers of these products with ACCESS to you have told you what they want you to hear and believe. THAT IS THE TOURIST EXPERIENCE.
Sorry about the size of this. Thanks for your attention.
Lexton,
Point taken. We can agree to disagree.
Moondog.
p.s. Outside of the monthly fee for hosting the photos and information, no fee is ever paid to the websites that I mention.
Lexton:
Your posting helps to make people think about this issue. Thanks.
Regarding locals, I don't think that most Argentinians using the local forums (2000 users total) are paying considerably less than visitors, at least regarding quality girls. That is, they pay ar$100-200 for an Area-Vip girl. Also, I know that many mongers who use the local forum recommend girls as we do here, and girls keep the price for them (usually aorund ar$100 for a short session).
Andres
Lexton,
As I posted in my earlier post, you make some good points. The points I disagreed with-- I posted why I disagreed with them. The thing that again I disagree with is your notion that there are just tons and tons of hot model quality girls in the other lower-tier clubs. This is simply not the case and I think we all can agree on that. No matter what side of the fence you are on the price issue. I do admit you can find hot girls at just about any club. The problem is there usually are only a few of them and often times they are busy because they are hot and all the other girls aren't.
I've been to places like Hooks, Cattos, Ness, et. al. several times with friends since moving here and many more over the past 2.5 years. Most times when I've gone I would never even think about pulling a girl out of there. Am I saying they aren't beautiful? No. I'm saying they aren't beautiful to ME.
I don't like overpaying. Never did and never will. My point is simply this. There is a much higher proportion of hot girls in places like Madahos and Black. There is NO disputing that fact. Every single guy that I've ever met or emailed with online admits the quality is like night and day.
I'd like to think I'm an experienced traveler. I might pay more for a hotel room, a car rental, or a girl but the reason is because I have a preference of what exactly I am looking for and it's worth the premium to get it.
I'm not saying there is no value in the other clubs. There is. The only thing I'm saying is the top tier-more expensive clubs have a higher percentage of hot girls. I live here now so I can rarely afford to pull girls out of Madahos or Black. Just too pricey for me. The one thing I'll never do is stop telling it like it is though. I'm a straight shooter.
So, without going into a diatribe of an explanation, I would invite you as well as any other experienced BA travelers to list the top two clubs with the most classically beautiful girls. Not taking price into consideration at all. Just looks (face, body, youth, etc.). I think all would have to list Black and Madahos on the top 3 list. That is all I'm saying. As for the internet girls, I haven't seen one in over a year so I wouldn't know how that is. I've found that once you make a few trips here you don't depend on them as much/if at all. They are still easy for guys that only have a limited time and want their dream girl.
Intelligent posts are what it's all about. Thanks for posting.
Saint
I just pulled a really ugly old hag out of Exedra. I took her to the Alvear Palace for dinner and then we got a room and she wouldn't do anything more than a CBJ. Was 1000 pesos too much to give her? Shit, that's hardly $300 bucks. I pay that for crack addicts in Las Vegas.
At least the Mouse is here so we will get some reports about [b]pussy[/b] instead of all this whining and bullshit.
[b]Pussy[/b], gentlemen, [b]pussy[/b]. The purpose of this section of the board is to discuss [b]pussy in Buenos Aires[/b]. Who, what, when, where, why, how much, and was she any good. That kind of stuff.
DickHead I hope your well rested as the Mouse is an Iron Man when it comes to chaseing pussy.
Us guy's in sex prison are jellious as hell.
The two of you really know how to have fun.
Have Fun Exon.
P.S. Mouse we want daily reports and call Fabiana
I suggest we have a New Section entitled "Philisophy". Let's save the "Box Scores" for here, no pun intended.
I broke tradition today and went for something new for my welcome wagon. Her Name was Miliga (something like that), 21 from Orleans. She has a beautiful smile, large (hidden) tattoos and has much to learn before I can recommend. Bottom line: Not Worth it! But one man's junk is another man's treasure.
Exon: Rumor has it Roberta is in town and send me Fabiana's number
The Mouse is loose!
PS: The triangle at 11:30 pm if anyone's interested
Saint,
I have been to BA twice and I agree with you that the clubs hwere you find the highest percentage of hot girls are Black and Madahos(ignoring the price factor).
Victor01
As regards,
"I would invite you as well as any other experienced BA travelers to list the top two clubs with the most classically beautiful girls."
I'll agree that Black and Madahos have the highest percentage of beautiful ladies, and on my last trip every time I went to Madahos I took a lady out- I'm weak weak weak that way.
However, my all time favorites have come from other places, diamonds in the rough so to speak, e.g. the Triangle, cafes, etc.
But it's all in the eye of the beholder, and that's cool.
-HGL
OK, my first ever report...feedback appreciated!
I had a few great nights in BA....what a city! BTW when looking at the prices I paid, please note that (a) I don´t speak a word of Spanish and (b) I´m used to London prices so I didn´t spend too much time haggling, as I wanted the chicas to be happy, cos when they´re happy they make me happier!
First night went to Láffaire Recoleta (on Guido I think?). Got a nice mulata called Andreasa from Brazil...blue eyes, not sure if they were contacts or not but she was great. My first mulata and hopefully not the last...very eager to please and suction like a vacuum cleaner, so there´s no reason to risk mutiliation by labour saving devices anymore, you know where to go! Í paid US100 and she stayed all night...and DIDN´T raid my minibar!
Second night slept off my jet lag and the prev nights action, so the third night I went back to L´Affaire, this time got a Paraguayan chica calling herself Diana, not sure she´s a regular there. She was wearing a blond wig and looked a bit like Pamela Anderson in the darkness...she was a bit older when I saw her in the light but quite a nice body all the same. Small warning, she came across as slightly unstable once I had her in my room. I suppose this business does damage some people and I did feel a bit sorry for her so I gave her a bit of a tip (perhaps she played me for a soft touch?). She raided my minibar while I was in the shower too..opened half of the stuff in there and didn´t actually have any of it..so minus points there! BJ performance was quite harsh but rest was pretty good. I paid 100US again (this time including tip and conscience money) though I had negotiated less.
Next night, thought I´d try something different, so went to Black. WOW. Once I´d picked my jaw back up off the floor (and I´m not easy to please, being a regular at Stringfellows in London), I picked a very cute, slightly chubby, raven haired girl, can´t remember her name but I think she´s a regular, will provide full details once I dig up her email address. She was great, but I did give her 200US for all night, everything included(and she worked for it too). Top performance, great GFE and she genuinely enjoyed her job, also went to great lengths to communicate though her english wasn´t great. I was going to meet her the next day for a tango show but stuff came up and I couldn´t make it, shame.
Final night, I thought I´d better try the remaining ones...so armed with a bit of dutch courage, went to (deep breath) Cattos, Hook, Ness, back to Cattos, Madahos, and finally Black (which came up trumps once more!). I have to say of the Suipacha clubs I thought Cattos was the best, regular there called Lily made me feel very welcome. Hook was empty so left early, and Ness really annoyed me...I walked in, chica started talking to me, realised I didn´t speak Spanish and ordered herself a drink without asking. Needless to say I walked straight out after I finished my drink. Cattos on the other hand was totally non-aggressive, and I happily bought a few of the ladies drinks there...I have no issues with buying drinks as I know the game, but its annoying when your intelligence is insulted as mine was in Ness.
Next, Madahos was great, lots of lovely ladies and great entertainment, but again, didn´t really click with anyone, so upped and went to Blacks and was glad I did! Another lovely brunette, slim, great body, and total GFE. 500 pesos for all night. Once again, feel a bit silly as I can´t remember her name, but its irrelenvant now as she is going back to Atlanta tomorrow (was just visiting family).
Sorry guys, I know I´m probably guilty of overpaying on the face of it, however I generally have the last laugh as I can take over an hour to hit the mother lode so they do earn their money! (Not intended as a boast, actually it can be a bit of a curse sometimes.)
All in all, Blacks is now my favourite place in the whole world...nothing but good experiences there - I suppose you get what you pay for but its not always the case so pleasantly surprised.
Anyway, gotta go, will be back in BA on the 28th for one last night - if anyone wants to hook up then pls PM me, would be a shame to have been to all the best places in BA and not met any of the regulars/locals.
Adios,
Andy
Lighten up Dickhead. It's no members place to dictate for all the content of this thread or forum. You've had ample uncensored opportunity to enlighten the board with your culinary achievements, tales of Maria, and daily "load" deposit. If several members wish to wax philosophical, so be it ! I for one find this variety quite a bit more entertaining and interesting than the seemingly unendless supply of ego stroking, self image constructing horseshit that fills these pages. Maybe you should petition Jackson for a thread entitled " PUSSY" so you aren't subjected to so many subjective interpretations of what constitutes a "2004 Report" . For me, the whats, whens, and whys of Pussy, the who came in whose mouth, the how many pussies can I cram into 3 day posts are a bore. Others love that reporting. To each his own.
For example, I would have missed out on the good laugh I enjoyed while reading Starfe's response to the preceding unending,nonsensical diatribe merely because someone else deemed it off topic. That ain't right !
Scroll on brother.
Amen Slick. I think as long as someone can take something useful or informative out of someone else's post than it belongs here. Honestly, I never read too many of Dickhead's posts. Just because what he posted didn't benefit me, I never thought it might not benefit someone else though. As they clearly have.
One WSG'ers "trash" is another WSG'ers "treasure". Guys should post anything that they feel will help another guy in some way, shape or form..IMHO.
Slick1,
daily "load" deposit : Priceless comment . Between Dickhead and Andres $25 dollar hooker challenge, you nailed it to a T. The constant back slapping and kudos they heap on themselves is just amazing. You would think they were the only participants in the room.
Thanks for putting into words what I have bee thinking for months. I never felt the urge to go through every cumming exercise. If someone might have a question about a website that they know I frequent then they could PM me or ask direct through the thread.
Thanks again,
Starfe
and to think I coudn't get any information on any subject a few years ago....
For the record, keep the hardcore, softcore AND the philosophical debates coming. If for no other reason, I know it is a thrill to recount life's most inspiring moments with friends, and, like it or not, we are inextricably tied as friends, of a sort.
I've been slammed for being too cheap on some threads and too generous on others. Big deal. I've learned from both criticisms, and find myself in my own happy state of equilibrium.
S... good to hear someone report from Orleans. A favorite place of mine for no good reason. Anyone 'run into' a Claudia from there? A daytime worker with a wonderful demeanor and work ethic?
Has Newports gone too commercial? Sounds like it is the Panet Hollywood of semi-pro establishments, yet I had the time of my life, albeit my life, there.
Perhaps to reset the forum and re-direct debate, perhaps a qualified member could post perceived quality and price information for the different establishments and genres?
Thanks!!
Jav'
JavMav, your post reminds me that I should repeat my earlier-posted warnings that one has to be very, very, very careful at Newport.
There is no control of chicas by the management. This lack of institutional control means that you may well find a sweet non-pro/semi-pro OR a criminal shark who will slip you a mickey and rob your hotel room. I was there last year with a fellow monger who recognized a girl working who had track marks on her forearm.
All said, it is possible to go swimming in a ditch and come out smelling like a rose, but there are definite risks involved.
-Uncle Otto
PS And if anybody thinks Orleans is a better choice, go back to the beginning of the 2004 section and read Capt Dave's posts.
[i]Caveat emptor[/i], boys.
Otto is 100% correct. There is more accountability and control with a club girl. Can she still do something bad? Of course, but there is at least some things you can do and the girls know that. Take Art Vandaly's incident when a girl stole his US cellphone. My good friend there talked to the manager where she worked and he threatened to fire her if she didn't return the phone. He was lucky as he got his expensive phone back with several important phone numbers.
(It's also a lesson not to drink too much. I was with Art that night and he was boozing pretty hard. I rarely drink when I go out as I like to stay alert and really don't like boozing as I drank too much in college).
Do you think someone could get their phone back if a girl from Cafe Orleans or Newport's took something or did something to you? Fat chance. I've never picked up a girl from Cafe Orleans in all my trips here. Just don't see any quality in there on the many times I've been there. For the most part, most of the girls (no make that women) are older. Newport is hit or miss as many have said. Be careful fellas.
Lexton : Excuse my ego! I keep adding new material
" I hope this doesn't cause a rush on the Dazzler " ( E.F. Hutton your not )
" I now have the best hotel room in this Argentina city" ( yes you do, a complete replica of Motels 6's vista room from Hackensack N.J. )
" A classic example of the problems that can be created by the forum " ( so this is a waste of time )
" I had the largest, nicest, type room in the place " ( decorated by the late Pablo Piccaso's cousin Mildred Piccaso )
" I would probably have found it on my own " ( of course you would have, you're like the Terminator)
" not that tiny crap on the top floor " ( which just happens to be called the Robert Duval Honeymoon Suite )
" Do you want to know my room numbers during that year? Good luck ( 3 no 5 ?? i know , i know 7 right? )
" There is only one such room in this town " ( created by God and personally given to you )
" My room costs just a little more than the ones in the "best" hotel. I have been here for over 6 weeks, and have this room until I want to leave here" ( or they throw you out )
"I like to buy a woman out of work so she doesn't NEED another client " ( or until you go limp )
" I have built 2 houses for women in Paraguay " (you and Jimmy Carter work together )
" The BA tourist exploiters " ( talking about me I suppose )
" I have had 2 women quit BA clubs. I can support 1-2 women at once " ( Its good to be king )
" I have far more money than the locals, and can thus afford the best " ( Its good to be King & Queen )
"The web sites situation is ridiculous. I will say now what I should have said a year ago. What is going on with you guys and the web is the worst example of tourist expoitation " ( there goes my pot of gold )
"I have done a champagne tasting on 17 different champagnes one after another, in professional format" ( time after time you picked Korbel )
"I know what I am saying " ( so did President Bush before he entered Bagdad )
"Now, do you understand how you can lose friends in a country? " ( I had no idea I was there to make pen pals for life )
"To try to conclude this, please understand that I am not really in favor of restricting access to the information in this forum "
( just the ones that are important and pertain to you & only you since the sun rises and sets with you're views on life )
Starfe
Exon Reporting: Ive had both my very best experiences and very worst experiences at New Port.
It truly is pot luck to pull a girl out of there.
One night while renting Jacksons apartment, (just across the street), I had a zinger and had to throw her out even before we got started.
But then I met Carolina in their and that affair lasted 6 or 8 months before she got boreing.
That I did find is if you hook up in New Port and she seams to be a preformer, you should take her out of their and complete your interview process in one of the straight bars or restraunts in the area. New Port is noisey, loud and full of people and by getting her out of their you can negociate more on your terms.
As for Cafe Orleans, for each his own. I frankly love the place. Ive done probably half the regulars in their and I consider most of them friends.
For example I found the love of my life, (Roberta), in their. The best fuck in the world IMHO. Also Fabiana, whom Ive been fucking off and on for my last 4 trips down their. I love Fabiana, ( matter o fact Im getting wood thinking about her while typing this), shes a real sweet heart very loyal and we've never mentioned money in our entire relationship.
And don't forget blond Caroline, (The Mouse call's her the little ball washer), shes a wonderfull preformer whom has even caught MoonDog's eye a couple of times.
I guess I love independent's rather than the harder core club girls but one must use good judgement. All of the above go's for Cafe Excedra too.
Exon.
Mouse if you see Caroline please report and say hello from Exon
I really have a hard time understanding why so many guys WANT to pay the same price for a woman in London, San Jose, and BA, and are willing to fight so hard to create and defend the priviledge, instead of trying to understand it and help figure out a way to prevent it. Maybe you can't appreciate them unless you can barely afford them, because that is the way it is with USA women? Or some other attitude?
At least we got Dodger Bulldog's great list, which could help some people if it weren't immediately buried and out of date. He did quite well, it appears. Why can't we try to think of a way to maintain something like that, on a little broader scale? Or promote a reporting format of that type, perhaps in a separate section? It was barely noticed.
Funny thing, I lived two years in Hackensack, NJ in an 18th floor penthouse apartment on Overlook Ave back in the 70's. I could stand out on my 800 sq ft terrace and enjoy a magnificent view of the Palisades and New York skyline, from Fort Lee to the World Trade Center.
I don't know what the Motel 6 vista view is in Hackensack, but I wouldn't knock it until I know what I'm talking about. Podunks aren't all bad.
A note on the relationship between pricing, performance and chica quality:
In the two years I have been coming here I have paid 300p (for 1 girl) only a few times and I'd like to share a couple of the stories:
The first time was 1 1/2 yrs ago and I wanted the feature dancer (the Nicest Body in there) at Madahos, who I was told was off limits. I was also told an introductory drink was 100p and there was No guarantee of anything happening, so I bit. Can't remember her name, but she was Tall, Gorgeous, 100% all natural and fit. I rate her body a 10+ and her face a 9.5. We chatted for 20 minutes and can you believe it, she said yes to 300p for 1 1/2 hrs at my hotel. Back to my hotel for almost 2 hrs of bliss.
The second time was a year ago when I was in Blacks. It was about 1am and the place was full of beautiful women and only a few men. I decided I wanted the Most Beautiful lady (in my eyes) in there that night no matter what. Again I found a girl who ranks a 10 on any scale, bought her a couple drinks (at their prices) and agreed to 300p for a trip to my hotel.
Both of these girls were second to none as far as Eye Candy was concerned, but their performance:
Well, even though the experiences were good, I would have No hesitation in recommending these two girls take some instruction from a lady or two like Antonela, my Fabiana, Natalya, Roberta, a couple Favoritas and a few others I have met who, by the way, are all half the price.
There may be a correlation between Pricing and Eye Candy for the Arm, but Absolutely None when it comes to the Quality of the Performance!
Another Mouse's Opinion
I like the diversity of topics on this board. It is very informative and entertaining. What is impressive is that most people are courteous in the way they write and challenge others. That does make this board rather special. On some other boards, some people have used the anonymity of their handles to be rude and discourteous to others.
I disagree with Dickhead and indeed I am surprised that he would write that as he is quite knowledgeable about a number of topics; but perhaps not this one as he goes fishing at just one end of the lake. No offence meant.
The board can get boring with just pussy photographs and tales of BBBJs and doggy style work outs.
Thank you, Lexton for your post. You know BsAs infinitely better than I do. Though I can't find myself agreeing with you, I for one, appreciate the way you have expressed your opinion.
As always,
Cheers.
Ok Guys, the first 24 hrs:
After my lackluster afternoon welcome wagon and nap, it was out for some fine Wining and Dining (Another Great thing about BA)with my amigo and then to the triangle.
A quick stop in each proved that possibilities existed for the evening and when I entered Ness, there was my Good Friend Sheyla who tells me some of you guys have been keeping her very busy! I like that find; anyway, her welcome was like ringing the bell for Pavlov's dogs so off we went to my hotel for a quick hr at 100p.
We returned together so I could meet up with my compadres for a couple beers and some catching up chat. Before I knew it, it was an hr before closing and time for a new selection before it was too late. I had a few choices, but decided on another from Ness (SB) who's performance was top notch (Better than eye candy, see below) and she stayed till 1:30pm. I'll say one thing about this girl: everyone time I had an itch, she was right there to scratch it no matter what time it was or whether she was sleeping or not.
Some answers to your questions:
Claudia was at Orleans yesterday and looking mighty fine.
I hear Roberta is back which I'm trying to verify.
Carolina (Exon's) is hard at work at Catto's.
And I haven't seen the Ball Washer yet.
Orleans was full of some New Talent today. There were a couple possibilities!
And Yes, There is No Other Place in the world (that I have found) where you can find so many different pleasures and opportunities that excite so many senses under one roof. I firmly believe that Everyone can Find what tantalizes their senses here in Argentina!
This Mouse's Opinion
Looking to go for the first time, but I am only interested in real blondes ,young, and price is very flexible. Do any of the more experienced mongers have ideas on where would I satiate myself. Russia seems too cold and non gfe , but would appreciate any comments.
I'm with Saint, Micky Mouse, DH and the rest.
One of the things I love about the BsAs sex scene is the variety. On my last day there I went to 429 Maipu and for 100 pesos plus a 20 peso tip (great service) I spent an hour of real bliss with a very beautiful (IMHO) woman who's skills were excellent.
I have had Madaho girls for anywhere from 200-300 pesos. And on two occasions girls from Black. One was too much money and the other was WAY too much money. (cut me some slack it was my first visit and I was a touch overwhelmed) When I go to Madahos and Black I have one purpose. I'm looking for 10's and only 10's. And even if they are 10's they must still appeal to me after I talk to them. If we are not simpatica then I pass and hit an apartment and take my chances.
I've had lots lot of girls from Newport years ago for around 200 to 300ar. I still like stopping by for a cortado to start the night but it's a rare exception that I'll pull someone from there.
Without doing a play by play regarding each one I can say my experiences have been varied. Of all of them only one would I say was wasted money as far as experience. A Madaho girl that was just entirely unsuited for the job. She was actually trying to push me out during mish. Of the rest, each in their own way I found to be an interesting and enjoyable experience. As posted before though, I do take the time to talk to them. Find out the things they like and don't like. Try to make them laugh if possible. In other words treat them like guests or perhaps as "Mi Novia para La Noche" (Christ my Castillano sucks)
Interestingly enough without question the absolute best experience was with the girl from Black that I spent WAY too much money on. She was without exception the most talented woman that I have ever been with. She knew how to extract the most from a mans mind as well as his body. 3 pops in 2 1/2 hours and she asked me if I wanted to go again. It really was a Penthouse forum experience.
Of the apartments once or twice I picked a girl who's skills didn't match their experience but for 100 pesos I can afford to spin the wheel. Most of the time though I find that the ones that introduce themselves in a more energetic manner seem to preform better. I like the ones that walk in, make eye contact, lean down and stroke my johnson and stick their tongue in my ear. Good sales skills go far with me.
I also find that paying attention to our fearless leaders sage advice works wonders. (only for take out, not an available stratigy in apartments) I'm clear as to what I expect and the money is ALWAYS after, NEVER before. I tell them that in the bar and if this is a problem to move on. Never feed a bird dog before hunting I say. I also don't do a lot of bargaining. I realize that this is sort of contrary to the wisdom of the board but I think if you agree with or just go for a small bump they feel a little more obligated to preform. In order for them to start at a reasonable figure I don't discuss price until after talking for a bit. I've been there a lot and I make sure they know that. I also casually make mention of some drunk Yanqui's that can always be seen in those clubs and mention that 300ar per hour is only for drunken idiots, thereby planting the seed that I am not one of them. If they are SMOKING hot and hit me at 300, I'll throw a soft pitch at 250 and let them know that I expect it to be longer than an hour. The 250 is to see if they bite, if not I'll eye them over and make a great show of my reluctance but that I'm overwhelmed by their beauty and charm and hook up. (lots of eye rolling, hair pulling, mine not theirs, sort of like the actors in the novellas) If they go higher I give them a kiss on the cheek and thank them for their time. I also refuse to spend 40 pesos on a drink until price is agreed on.
On the cab ride to the hotel I always try to talk to them some. I ask about their life, dreams, travel experience etc. What I'm trying to do is show some interest and perhaps develop common ground. These girls have sex with a lot of guys and I'm trying to break out of the ground clutter. It's exactly the same rap for non pros, I'm just much more comfortable because it's a sure thing. I think this goes very far when one considers the Latino male. Us visiting mongers make up a small part of their business and I think for the most part they are treated like meat by most of their client's. I also never ask about DATY, if it's clean (gotta love bidets) and well trimmed I just head into it. I've yet to find the woman that is not affected in some way by having some loving attention paid to their pussy. If you think about it, the return on this investment is well worth using some of my time with them. I use the same ideas on the apartment chicas as well.
I reckon there are some that say why waste the time. I've spent most of my life in customer service in one way or the other. The simple fact is most people shit on those that serve the public. Personally I never fail to go out of my way to do the most I can for the people that show me kindness and respect. First and foremost this is a business for these girls, and for me it's about getting the most service for my peso. With that said, I also think it's possible to connect on an emotional level that allows the experience to be more enjoyable for both .
In conclusion, most of the time, the vast majority of the time I'm looking to screw my dick raw when I am there. Economics DICKtate that apartment prices allow more sex. On every trip though I do like to hit the clubs at least once or twice. I dig the fantasy of having a girl trying to catch my attention by doing that wonderful dance they all do at all of the clubs. Then picking up a chick that wouldn't even talk to me here in the States in a bar environment taking her back to the hotel for some wild sex and sending them out again. I also like calling the desk and having them send up room service for me. Most of the lobby men will do this as they get a commission on the appointment. I kind of like not knowing what is going to show up. About 1/4 of the time I send them away because I don't find them attractive but most of the time it's serviceable and very safe and convenient.
In short I have to agree with everybody's opinion. Dickheads trawling is fun, Saint's high flying is fun, Lexton I'm not sure about because there are no Hotels that I know about on Plaza de Mayo ("I now have the best hotel room in this Argentina city. It is a suite on the top floor, with a balcony overlooking the central plaza, church, city hall, and half the city.") so it sort of puts everything He writes under suspicion to me. My strategy is explore, try new things, read the board to avoid obvious mistakes, and above all have fun. try new things, do two girls, three girls, four girls whatever. Hobbying is supposed to be fun.
One of the things I like about this board and intend to make use of in the future is the ability to network with like minded guys. The older I get the more I understand that personally for the most part while I'm very attracted to women for the most part I don't like most of them. I enjoy hanging out with guys much more. being in BsAs I can do lots of stuff that is non hobby related. I love the exceptional food and arts. I usually see whatever is showing at the Colon and the National Teatro while I am there. I love the fairs in San Telmo, recoletta and Palermo on Saturdays and Sundays. In the future I want to hook up with Saint, DH, Andres (dude I'm serious about dinner for posting about 429) I wasn't able to go to the Saturday dinner at the Mansion this last trip but will attend in the future.
As Andres says, "Hope this helps"
DR
I'm an outsider in this BA forum. Never been there but had it on my to do list. It you want an outsiders opinion I think the topics in the last couple of days are exactly the kind a guy wants to here if he is considering going there for the first time. It's obvious now that BA is kind out of my league. But that's good that I know so I don't go there wasting my time in a city that's not right for me. It's probably better for you guys too that one less monger shows up. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll go check out the Sosua forum.
Later guys
Mouse this should probably be a P.M. but the news that Roberta may be back in town is truly exciting for me.
As you all know she IMHO is the best of the very,very best.
My last news of her, from Fernanada also a Cafe Orleans girl, was that a very rich Spaniard had proposed marriage too Roberta and she had excepeted and had moved to Madrid.
Well if this is not the case please check it out, and I know if she's around you'll due her. If this is true please give her a few strokes and at the same time tell her "This is from Exon, this is from Exon".
Also when your done and its time to settle up please give her a few extra bucks, say $50 USD, and tell her its from Exon and to be used to buy food for her Comadora. Let me know and I'll mail you the money when you return to sex prison.
Roberta is not only best but she truly is hooker with a heart. She helps run a Comadora way out in the provincea and feeds 75 to 100 kids a day. I know Ive been their and sean it. She told me she spends about $1,000 peso's a month out of her own pocket to provide food for the kid's.
Thanks and don't beat up on Dickhead to much.
Have fun Exon.
P.S. please keep Roberta's location a private we don't want all thease horny mongers dueing her.
Another monger PM'ed me to ask about my experiences and what general advice I would give. After spending an hour writing this, his mailbox was full.
So rather than trash it, I decided to post it here. I'm far from an expert, and there is much better information on these boards, but here are one man's thoughts:
Most of the mongering during the day is done at the cafes and apartments, or you can call internet girls.
I would definitely recommend that you try all three methods - the cafes, internet girls, and apartments, to find your own preference. Then add the clubs at night to get the full Bs. As. experience.
Internet girls tend to cost more and there is a lot of bait and switch. Plus you don't know anything about her personality, and there is no way to predict the service.
Also, I couldn't figure out a way to negotiate price over the phone, since it was pretty much a "take it or leave it" deal. (Not to mention that my Spanish sucks.)
I only went to two apartments. The guys who live in Bs. As. and are looking for their undiscovered gem have plenty of time to search for apartments.
But with limited time, I did not want to spend the better part of the day trying to find one, when there was a good chance that with only a handful of girls none will appeal to me anyway.
In my typical experience, I pushed the buzzer, tried to communicate in my poor Spanish, then waited and waited for someone to come to the door. Finally I was let in, went up an elevator, taken into an apartment, and was pointed to a depressing bedroom.
Three girls pop in, one at a time, to tell me their name and peck my cheek and disappear in about 10 seconds. I just didn't find it to be an optimum method to select someone to be intimate with and to spend my money on, even though as a rule they are cheaper ($100 pesos, maybe less).
I found it all very frustrating. I believe there is a better way.
I need to constantly remind myself never to forget that money is power and that we have all of it over here.
Just because a chica looks good to you, doesn't mean that you need to give control of the power to her. The way things are in Bs. As., they truly need us more than we need them.
An awful lot of these chicas go home penniless at the end of their shift. Or maybe even in the hole, because they have to pay their house fee.
We can always find another chica at the very next table, or next door. But if they lose one of us they may not gain the interest of another man all of that day, or the rest of that night.
And maybe not tomorrow either.
Even if she is smoking hot, she risks striking out if she keeps her price up too high.
That is their reality. Take the time to understand it, and you will empower yourself.
Because on the contrary, for us it is all a game. It is all playtime.
So why not enjoy the entire process to the hilt?
That is why I favor the cafes. I LOVE the mating ritual there.
I relish looking over the chicas in a well lit environment, watching the effect that I have on them. I love to see them nod, and wink, and smile.
As I gaze around the room, their heads go up and down as if they are doing the wave. And just because I am there.
It sort of reminds me of my puppy's unconditional love for me.
So I found myself being very critical and ruling out a chica because her tits were too small, or her ass was too high, or I didn't like the way that she plucks her eyebrows.
All these were girls who I would do in a heartbeat at home, but they just weren't QUITE good enough in Bs. As.
LOL.
I also realize how much of the game is psychological. I would be drawn to the ones sitting behind me, or around a corner, because I couldn't see them well enough to find out their flaws.
Or, I might have been sitting there debating my choices for over an hour when one would maybe get up to leave, or perhaps because another man indicated his interest. And I would think "damn it, I was just about to call her over."
In reality, it was just that she was no longer available to me that suddenly made her SO much more attractive.
At last, I would motion a special one over to see how she would engage this little dance of ours.
Game was on.
After a while I was able to judge how the conversation was going, and I would visualize how things might be if I took her back to my room. I would honor her by buying her a coffee or tea, if I felt sufficiently enchanted.
All leading to my final delicious choice - whether to negotiate now, or send her away and call for someone else.
By this time the chica had spent a lot of time and considerable amount of effort with me, and was probably already deciding exactly how she would be spending my money once she got off work for the night.
Thus, by now she was fully invested in closing this deal. It gave her a strong incentive to work with me and at least make something to take home.
Or have to crawl back to her table in the plain view of her friends (and competitors), admitting to defeat.
And having to start all over.
Meanwhile, I could have another chica sitting next to me before the first one's butt could hit her chair. And I would do it just to make a point to all the others in the room.
Bottom line, I felt intoxicated with the power that I had to bring them such joy just by selecting them to talk with me.
And the ones with whom I actually consummated an accord seemed to be in a state of bliss simply because they had found their work for the day.
Such a good way to start, in search of a great finish!
Cafe Orleans is where it is at during the day. The place is hopping by 11 AM, with up to 30 attractive women in their 20's and 30's. Also, I found that these women were much more like GFE's than those in the clubs.
I think that because the focus is on conversation over coffee, that there is a "courting" process, and even a "bonding" that occurs prior to hooking up, which definitely embellishes the experience.
But that might just be me, romantic fool.
Excedra is about 8 blocks away and is also a cafe. It doesn't get many girls in until 5 PM, but is much busier at night. It also has legitimate couples out for dinner or coffee, and a much lower ratio of chicas to men. The women tend to be older - 30's, 40's even some 50's, but a few younger ones come by.
I pulled out a beautiful twosome in their twenties, who were moonlighting there for a few hours before going to work at Madahos that night. They were great together, at half the price ($300 AR total for both) that I would have paid at Madahos.
And of course, I had no cover charge to pay or drinks to buy.
I discovered Cutty Sark, just around the corner from Orleans, late in my trip. An older night club, with nice woodwork and atmosphere, and well lit enough to actually see the chicas. There even was a decent singer for entertainment.
I could sit and talk to the girls. I discovered a sweet and innocent 20-year old to take back to my room. Long red hair, green eyes, nubile ass, awesome smile. Simply incredible.
So at night I would often walk the area - Orleans, Cutty Sark, then up to Catto's, Hook and Ness, then a couple more blocks over to check out Excedra.
It took a couple hours to complete the circuit, having one drink at each place. Then I would retrace my path, talking again to the favorita I had seen during my first pass, while checking for fresh blood.
The girls I talked to would never know if I was coming back, and if I was, if I would ever be talking to them again. They DID know that I was checking out everyone everywhere and that they had lots of competition.
Being unpredictable was a definite advantage. Once it got down to negotiations, I think this worked in my favor.
I stumbled onto one little trick by accident. I was at Catto's, and told a chica that I wasn't taking anyone home that night because I had already been with two girls from Excedra that evening.
I said my eyes coveted her body but my cock insisted "no mas."
It was clear that I wasn't starved for sex, and she realized that I wasn't an easy mark. But I was the only thing she had going at the time. So she responded by lowering her asking price from an initial $300 pesos to $100.
Deal.
I quote Dickhead: "I wasn't real hungry, but I could eat again."
I decided to use that same story on all the chicas the rest of my trip and I believe that it helped me get consistently lower prices.
I hope that this is the kind of information that you were looking for and that some of it is useful to you. Damn, I wish I was in your shoes heading back!
Buena suerte!
DB
Fun times. :)
Thanks for the report.
Moondog
Mouse,
Re: "I wanted the feature dancer (the Nicest Body in there) at Madahos, who I was told was off limits."
I was told the same thing last March at Madahos (I don't know if it was the same dancer, but I couldn't take my eyes off her), so I took another. MY BAD! Next time will be different. Thanks for the info.!!
-HGL
Has anyone ever taken a feature dancer from Madahos for a quick trip? Would love to know what you paid in total for the experience. I have wanted to do it a few times but never got around to it. Call me cheap but don't call me Harry.
Starfe
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I am pleased to announce that I will be the official host of this week's Saturday Evening Dinner Party at the Mansion, to be held as usual on September 25th, from 9:00 pm to Midnight.
All local and visiting mongers are welcome to attend.
The menu features Cabana Los Lilas brand steaks, including Bife de Lomo and Bife de Choriso, along with a couple of chicken breasts and pork chops tossed for variety, all cooked over an open charcoal flame in the Mansion's Argentina style barbecue.
These steaks are identical to the ones served at Cabana Las Lilias in Puerto Madera, from their ranch, and with their label. Simply stated, they're superb.
Along with these 1st class steaks will be the usual accouterments of Argentina grilled sausages, provletta, American-style tossed green salad, fresh baked bread, and a special dessert that I won't decide upon until I consult with the chef.
Drinks will include the usual beverages, beer and an assortment of wines and champagnes.
All guests are encouraged to bring a date, but it is not required. I am going to invite a limited number of English-speaking female guests to keep the conversation lively.
The Dinner Party will wrap up at approximately midnight, which should provide ample time for everyone to hit their favorite bar, boliche or disco for continued entertainment.
Seating is limited. Please RSVP me at [email]Jackson@ArgentinaPrivate.com[/email] for additional details and a map with directions in English and Spanish.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Dodger Bulldog, now I know why you did so well on your price list. You have a PHENOMENAL understanding of the dynamics of the situation. And it generally applies to all of the situations, not just the cafes, although I have never heard a good solution to the terrible language problem of phone contact in general. Great description.
To Daddy Rulz, sorry it was not more obvious, but if you read the post you will see I am not describing BA at all(less than 50 women total sex industry). I left BA, and have been travelling in Paraguay and the provinces for 5 months.
To Dodger:
We could be brothers!
Your information is top notch. I love Orleans in the day, and sometimes at night. CuttySark is a sure-thing backup. If all of that posturing and cultivating goes awry, CuttySark is only a five minute walk away!
Sort of like checking for something you need at the dollar store before spending $1.29 at Walmart.
I also agree about the apartments. Too much like TJ or something. Such a romantic city and the chase (as it were) provides at least 40% of the enjoyment. Why waste it walking into a dingy, high-pressure, cookie-cutter environment? Like the RLD in Amsterdam or Soho in the UK.
Thanks for the information and warning about Newports. Too, bad. I often have a buddy with me, so hopefully that will decrease our chances of deceit!
Can't wait till December!!
Jav'
Daddy Rulz,
You make some very good points. Obviously we both agree that it is a wise investment to treat the chicas well.
If you want a GFExperience, it helps to provide a BFExperience.
You are also wise to foreshadow your knowledge and experience to the chicas before discussing price.
Thanks to those of you expressed your comments on my recent post. I appreciate it.
DB