In general very good advice Geo
Having been along for this ride I can verify the story. The unnamed girl does have a special relationship with this monger. Having been involved with a "real" girl here I was really taken back by how she treats him very much like my girl had treated me. This monger though has a VERY good command of the language and culture here. This chicka doesn't ask for money when no services have been rendered, I have known her for awhile and she really is a sweet lady. I personally believe she is in this life SOLELY to provide a better life for her son. Her opportunities are very limited and this is something she is willing to do to give him a better life than she had.
In general I would say that Geos advice is good advice to follow, be very wary of chickas that talk about amor after an initial visit. But if a girl shows honest interest in you over time and displays real affection, sometimes its real affection. Just be carefull. If they ask you to send them money after you go back to SP then realize your being worked and get the hell out. That is an absolute I believe.
[QUOTE=Geo Eye]You guys seemed to be a little pussy whipped, remember one thing.
They are still hookers, and once a hooker always a hooker.
If she was a nice family girl she would have a diffrent state of mind.
DO NOT, DO NOT TRUST ANY OF THEM, NO EXCEPTION.
The reason is very simple they are looking for the BBD.
BIGGER, BETTER DEAL![/QUOTE]
You've answered your own question
[QUOTE=Jabone]but this is crazy talk isn't it.[/QUOTE]You've answered your own question, Jabone.
I'm always amazed by this.
I completely understand how mongers "fall" for a Latina working girl every now and then and how easy that might be. What I am always amazed by is these particular mongers' lack of understanding of themselves, and therefore the subsequent lack of understanding of the situation they placed themselves in.
A multitude of times, across multiple boards and in person, there are guys who say they've developed a "relationship". Then they either get confused by it and / or burned by it.
Mr. Jabone, what exactly were you looking for out of this? How clear and up front were you with this chica when you went to the supposed "not paying for it" level? What realistic expectations could you have possibly had with this?
There are a lot of guys who will give you various reality checks about this type of situation. Mine might be quite a bit different than many others. My reality checks for you are:
1) Do you think you are the first one who this girl has encountered who likes someone beyond having to put up with them for some short time pay for sex. It's good for her brain too, to do a little "dating" with a foreigner and of course, you are expected to flip the bill for that. Does not have anything to do with her falling in love, etc.
2) Even if this girl actually truly digs you (or more) what future do you think you present to this woman (in her mind) What do you really know about her life in BA and do you realize how transparent you are to her in this way? You will go away, one way or another and she knows that. You truly want her off the market? Then stay in Argentina and marry her. Go ahead, put her in an apartment, etc. - no matter how you want to cut it - she has no reason to believe you are not just another gringo thinking you are falling in love with her, until the next one comes along for you.
3) I really love this one: "On the other hand I will be back in BA and if she would get a different job I could forget her past". I never, ever, get this skewed logic - what the hell does her "past" have to do with anything? What about your past? More than likely her reasons for fucking a lot of people are a lot more honorable than yours. You've got some unrealistic "kept woman" fantasy as well as thinking you can only go forward by forgeting her "past".
4) You called this a "relationship" - not relationship. You quoted it because you really don't know what to call it. OK, accept the truth of that, it's something in-between. Respect that, enjoy it, and move on because these women are not as stupid as many think and they know for the long term (and in their value sets) you are offering nothing more than short term entertainment and possibly money for them. In fact, your unrealistic way of looking at this is crystal clear to them and opens you up to all kinds of potential abuse.
Nothing wrong with falling in love - just don't think that throwing some cash / presents / apartments her way means she is falling in love with you. Falling in love with you includes that she trusts you will be around to protect and care for her, as a person. Otherwise, you are just a good time with money - same way as you look at her (except without the money)