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Bandy, I'm not booked yet but I'm actually thinking of staying at Etoille. Would you mind if I asked the deal you worked out there? I'm about to book somewhere and there are lots of choices but Adriana, webmistress at www.platynum.com just recommended Etoille to me, says it's very chica friendly, etc. And, yes, I'm going to be in the 9th through the 14th so we can definetely hang a bit. Another hotel I'm thinking of that's a great place, only in Palermo, but only a 5 minute cab ride to Recoleta, is called Torre Cristoforo Colon and I've stayed there, very nice place and at the moment they seem to be practically giving rooms away. Adriana seems to think this hotel is very chica friendly too. DownBA
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DownBA and bandy
Iam going to be at the Etoile from the 13-23 November. Iam planning to hit the clubs like Blacks (really near the Etoile), PlayWoman and Solid Gold.
Never been to BA myself but Iam a long time reader of this site. It seems that one of the great advantages with the Etoile is that it is very close to all the clubs (walking distance in fact) and very chica friendly.
I have some information on the rates at the Etoile for longer stay as they call it (think they mean 5 days or more) which I can send you guys.
Iam intrested in getting together during my stay.
BA_ROBERT
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>I have some information on the rates at the Etoile for longer stay as they call it (think they mean 5 days or more) which I can send you guys.
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I don't know exactly when I will be in BA, probably MDP and maybe La Plata (can't wait!) but it will probably be sometime before the end of the year.
Expect a full detailed report, as payback for all the great info I've received from this board.
I will stay for two weeks to a month at the Etoile, as all reports on this board indicate it is chica friendly and very well located. Seems the best bet, despite lumpy beds, tacky wallpaper, and no in-room internet access, a bummer, since the internet is a bit of an addiction and also pays the rent.
What rates (in cash dollars) have been quoted for Etoile:
one day daily rate?
more than five days?
One month?
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BA-Robert, would you please post your email address and I'll email you as I'd like it if you shared your info on rates at the Etoille for 5 days or more since I'm going to be staying for exactly 5 nights. I'm leaving the day after you get there but I'd be happy to show you around if you like the night you get in. DownBA
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BA-ROBERT, ET AL.
Two Middle Aged Jedi Whoremasters Will be in BA 11/15-11/26.
First time BA but speak Spanish and lotsa world experience. Hookups? chuponalgasSPAMyahoo.com (replace spam with @)
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DownBA
I will be in Diplomatic Suite @194 peso +tax. Rates for Executive suite is 175 p +tax. The discount is substantial as compared to their regular rates. May be it is due to the length of the stay, which for me will be over a week. There is no extra charge for paying by the credit card, which is one of my primary requirements. I gather from the board discussions that some other area hotels are charging 14% extra for this option. One of the posters here eluded that Etoile provided free round trip transportation from the airport. I was not offered that. It costs 45 peso each way. They will send a private car. This will be my first time in BA. However, I have some experience with other parts of the world. Pura vida,
bandy
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The information I got from the Etoile is:
Standard rooms (with double bed or twin bed) room size 26 m^2.
Executive rooms (size 42m^2)
Diplomatic rooms (size 64m^2)
All rooms include jacuzzi, minibar, cable, balcony, individual heating, air con, internet outlets (altough some posts see below claim it doesn't work), international direct dialling etc...
All rooms also includes American Buffet Breakfast, access to spa and parking.
The room rates I got for a longer stay is;
Standard room 145 peso + 21 percent tax
Executive room 170 peso + tax
Diplomatic room 194 peso + tax
This seems to be about the same as "bandy" reported below. However Iam not sure about the term "longer stay". I asked if this meant 5 days or 5 days+weekend and got a very cryptic answer. However I got these prices, but then Iam staying longer than a whole week.
I suggest anyone who is interested to email their information desk (reservas@etoile.com.ar).
They also have a website as many already know (www.etoile.com.ar). One can make reservations online on this website. However, one has to give them a creditcard no. and since their reservation form isn't a internet secure one, I suggest that you call them on the phone (54 11 4805 2626 from abroad). Calling Argentina seem to be increadible cheap so dont worry about the costs of a phone call, better to be secure.
Information I got on shorter stay or rack rates as they call them are:
198+tax, 225+tax, 250+tax for standard, executive and diplomatic rooms respectively. I got these rates a couple a weeks ago but should be pretty much the same now.
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Thank you Bandy and BA-Robert, I think I'm sold and if they'll offer me the same deal for a 5 night stay I think I'll be seeing you guys at the Etoille. I've usually stayed in either Palermo or Belgrano which are great places to experience too but I think I want to be in the heart of the action this time.
Just one thing guys, do these rates include the priviledge of having a chica stay overnight without extra charge?
See you guys there. DownBA
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Dear WSG ers,
I'm really burning with envy for those who get to go to BA so frequently. But also appreciate the regular and detailed posts.
I am a software (internet sites) consultant myself and want to go to BA on vacation and hobby. Work wise i never get a chance to move out of east coast. I wonder what takes everybody else to BA ? especially those who fly there every month?
I am desperately looking for an excuse to make a business trip out of it (will have to show some revenue from there).
Best of luck to those going there shortly.
Royal
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Royal21
I'd guess that a lot of the people who frequently hit BA these days are in the travel industry (i.e. airlines). The economy is so dead, and with the collapse of the peso, the Argentines sure aren't buying much beyond the essentials from overseas.
The one place their economy still sputters along is in the area of agriculture--export of wheat, leather, soy products. They SHOULD be exporting tons of the above plus wine, because their prices are so cheap. However, their brilliant government, desperate for cash, actually taxes EXPORTS!. Talk about keeping the economy down!
Until the dot.bomb implosion a couple of years ago, the Internet and e-commerce were hot topics down here. Startup Internet companies like Patogon.com really made it seem as though there would be a brilliant future in technology in Argentina, and an excuse for you to come and play, err...work. It's pretty dead now.
I'm in Bs As from this coming Thursday 'til the following Wednesday, if anyone wants to meet up with a middle-aged, horny guy who speaks Spanish with an Argentine accent.
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DownBA
I dont think bringing a guest will cost anything. All room rates are for one or two persons according to their website. Wheter you have a standard, executive or diplomatic room it shouldn't be a problem. Never stayed their myself but all posts on this site claim that it is no problem.
Maybe bandy could sheed some light on this. I dont know if it depends on what kind of room you got.
BA_ROBERT
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Everyone should probably keep all the "hotel" posts to the hotel section. That's what it's there for. If you'll go back you'll see I posted extensively on Etoile. Etoile has a strict guest policy. They are VERY chica friendly but they do NOT allow more than one chica up at a time. So if you're thinking about 3 somes than you better scratch Etoile off your list.
The night staff could sometimes be bribed to look the other way but sometimes no. Plus, they asked that you had the chicas out by early morning. Also, I'd highly recommend my travel agent. Her rates for the Diplomatic Suite at Etoile is less than booking direct with them. (mayra@argentinago.com). Or just go to her website and you can see the rates to all the hotels she contracts with. [url]www.argentinago.com[/url]
Royal 21 & Oldguy,
NO. The vast majority of the guys going down are NOT in the travel industry. Only one dude I know is in the industry. The rest of us are just normal guys that love everything about the city including the girls. If you want to go down...just make it happen. Anything in life is possible if you want it bad enough. Life is good.
Saint
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Saint, Thanks for your advice. I went on Myra's site and booked the Suite Diplomático for $187 pesos per night plus the 21% tax. Sounds like a great price for a great, chica friendly place to park while I take care of some business and pleasure. By the way, it's good to see you're posting again, I was beginning to think you were seriously ill or something, not having seen a single post for days after your record-setting run of consecutive-day posting. Even though I've been to BA several times I still read all your advice (and all the other great posters, Ezy, La Larry, Moondog, UWPhoto and all the other BA mavens, THANKS TO YOU ALL) and will try to apply as much of it as possible during my next visit early November. Unfortunately I'll only have 5 nights to have fun though I ought to be able to pack an awesome time into 5 nights! Will try to return your efforts with some good, detailed posting from the internet cafes while down there.
By the way, to all of you guys going down soon or who are there now, don't think beef is the only great food in BA: their chicken is among the best in the world too, try a common dish found all over La Capital Federal called "Pollo al Verdeo", it's a chicken in a creamy, herbal sauce to die for. Also, try the pastas, they're the best pastas outside of Italy, maybe even better, but then, who can think about food with a city full of the sexiest women available on the planet for outrageously low rates due to the current currency exchange. DownBA
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thanks oldguy and saint,
seems like going there on a vacation would suit me better than thinking of a work reason.
From the posts here i assume most to be americans or of latin american origin, is all discussion about clubs and women relevant to an asians also ?
I am from india (north) and follow sikh religion. But unfortunately get counted as a muslim from middle east because i wear a turban (head gear) too. I have been all over europe and japan before sep 11 but the dull economy did not allow me to take a vacation till date.
What is the general outlook of argentinians towards non-us tourists ? I was told by couple of friends that south america does not get whole lot of asian tourists. So they would have no way of distinguishing a sikh from a muslim. And that in late 2001, they were very hostile to muslims.
I could not find any news article to that effect on the internet (in english) but will appreciate advise from the regulars.
I think i have a spirit of adventurer inside me and find satisfaction in totaly new places and tastes. BA holds the promise of that excitement. I do not know the language, have no idea about food , customs and culture. Exploring all that on my own and trying to score with some nice chicas will be what i'm looking for.
But i definately do not want everything to get screwed because of what i look like.
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Royal21:
Argentinians are accustomed to Panamerican and European tourists. If you appear with a head gear in Buenos Aires you will draw significant attention everywhere.
I recommend you that you leave the head gear at home. Girls in clubs will be wary about going out with you. Unfortunately, people there think that most Asians are not very hygienic, so you may need to break that prejudice if you wear that (girls will go out with you anyway but probably will not provide a GFE if you wear that).
To give you an idea of how much Argentinians know about he Muslim world, they call the former president Menem as "Turkish", while his family came from Yabrud, Syria. Every Muslim here is a "Turkish", regardless of Sunnit, Shiit or any other branch, because most Argentine Muslim immigration came from Turkey.
If you go without head gear and are somewhat sophisticated (like many Indian classmates I met), you won'tdraw too much attention and girls will like to meet you.
Hope this helps,
Andres
