American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Schmoj]What is your source for these number, Fox News?[/QUOTE]I don ’t know where he got his numbers, but I think he got them from MSNBC.

If his numbers are wrong why don't you dispute them?

[QUOTE=Punter 127]I don 't know where he got his numbers, but I think he got them from MSNBC.

If his numbers are wrong why don 't you dispute them?[/QUOTE]If he would site a source, I might not have to dispute them. As stated, they just seem like speculation at best.

[QUOTE=Schmoj]If he would site a source, I might not have to dispute them. As stated, they just seem like speculation at best.[/QUOTE] Oh I see, you ’re saying if it came from Fox News the numbers are correct, now I understand.:rolleyes:

The numbers or either right or wrong, regardless of his source.

Come on Sidney-

Please stop posting all this ridiculous anti-Obama propaganda. Your first post sounds like something right off the wires from either Fox News or Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Just exactly who does Dick Morris work for these days, none other than FOX NEWS, which I can watch right here in Buenos Aires on Directv. The fact of the matter on taxes is that it is just not fiscally possible to continue on as is without raising taxes on those who can afford to pay more. How can we possibly finance two neverending wars without additional revenue? Those same Republican military-industrialists who are profiting so enormously from the war simply must pay more of the income they receive from the war to finance its continuation. Let those who profit from the war, pay and suffer for the war. The fact that the US has no univeral healthcare system, yet spends trillions of dollars per year financing the military machines (and lining the pockets of those supplying these military machines) of our own country along with dozens of others is a disgrace of the highest order.

As for the oil companies and off-shore drilling, or drilling in the North Slope of Alaska, its all a hoax. Oil prices are high because the OPEC, in collusion with the oil companies and their political allies, keep supply tight in order to keep prices as high as possible. The current administration does nothing because their are financially connected to the oil companies and they and / or their associates are making a ton of money right now. The answer is that the next administration should enact a special corporate windfall tax on oil companies that operate in the United States and pour the additional revenue into research and development of renewable, non-polluting energy sources. Oil is not the future and the current situation functions as a monopoly that behaves against the public interest and therefore it is the job of the government to regulate the current situation and to do the R / D to find the future energy source.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Your first post sounds like something right off the wires from either Fox News or Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Just exactly who does Dick Morris work for these days, none other than FOX NEWS, which I can watch right here in Buenos Aires on Directv.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with FOX News?

[QUOTE=Schmoj]What is your source for these number, Fox News?[/QUOTE]What's wrong with FOX News?

I would hate too pay taxes on something just because it had been in my family for a long time even though everybody else has to pay taxes on their profit in the form of wages!

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]The answer is that the next administration should enact a special corporate windfall tax on oil companies that operate in the United States and pour the additional revenue into research and development of renewable, non-polluting energy sources. Oil is not the future and the current situation functions as a monopoly that behaves against the public interest and therefore it is the job of the government to regulate the current situation and to do the R / D to find the future energy source.

Suerte,

Rock Harders[/QUOTE]Except that the corporate income tax is a complete fiction. Corporations cannot pay taxes; only individuals can. The corporate income tax just gets passed on to either the customers of the corporation or the shareholders in the form of reduced profit. The degree to which it falls on the customers vs. the shareholders depends on the elasticity of demand for the product (the "excess burden" of a tax) and in this case demand is inelastic and it will fall disproportionately on the customers.

Additionally, the government is poorly equipped to do research. A better solution would be a free-market solution, which many argue will emerge in the long run if gas prices stay high. In the long run I am dead so I'd argue for additional available funding for applied research into alternative energy technologies, funded through general revenues rather than a windfall profit tax.

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Oh I see, you 're saying if it came from Fox News the numbers are correct, now I understand.:rolleyes:

The numbers or either right or wrong, regardless of his source.[/QUOTE]The source generally determines the likelyhood of the accuracy of the data, wouldn't you agree?

Any data of the form <Barak all bad>, <McCain all good> reeks of Fox News to me.

[QUOTE=Jackson]What's wrong with FOX News?[/QUOTE]Jackson, you are scaring me. I don't see any smiley faces in your post.

:-)

[QUOTE=Sidney]That was my intention![/QUOTE]Almost as much fun as watching the Peronists and the Anti-Peronists.

[QUOTE=Schmoj]The source generally determines the likelyhood of the accuracy of the data, wouldn't you agree?[/QUOTE]No, I think the methodology used in the data collection is more determinant of the accuracy. Garbage in, garbage out.

[QUOTE=Sidney]That was my intention in the hopes of finding some good answers about these two terrible candidates![/QUOTE]Who would be your preferred candidate?