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[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447322]

dickhead said that there is an inverse relationship between price and service.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.

The best example of the inverse price/quality relationship was the late, lamented Fray Santa María Justo de Oro 2280. God, I loved that place. Sob. Q.E.P.D.

There are $125 to $150 places throughout Central and South America.

I paid that in Jaco, Bomboa in Sao Paulo, La Isla in Medellin, and La Piscina Norte in Bogota in the past seven months.

In all those towns except Jaco, the clinicas and casas are better options. In Jaco the standard ask price is $100 but some girls will go for $80. The chica that got $150 from me at Cocal was the best looking in the place in my opinion. When I countered with $100, she would just say that her amiga will go for $100. On my last night, I caved.

Madahos and Hippo's dancers were asking 1200 to 1500 pesos last time I was there in November 2012 when we were getting 6.10 P to $1. I remember because it was the night Toyman paid off Esten for the Obama election bet.

The sad part of it was that Hook was basically $100 an hour between 12 and 2 AM for the dancers before Hippo closed and there were always 6 or 8 dancers in the house worth taking out. Closer to closing time, I know guys who negotiated down. Sideline girls at Hook were cheaper.

Buenos Aires was really cheap between 2001 and 2006 after the currency crisis of 2001-2002. But in those days, the streets were dirty, pensioners were begging for money on street corners and the restaurants scene was less established. Buenos Aires is a better place to visit today than in 2003 despite the rise in cost of nightclub girls.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;447326]There are $125 to $150 places throughout Central and South America.

I paid that in Jaco, Bomboa in Sao Paulo, La Isla in Medellin, and La Piscina Norte in Bogota in the past seven months.

In all those towns except Jaco, the clinicas and casas are better options. In Jaco the standard ask price is $100 but some girls will go for $80. The chica that got $150 from me at Cocal was the best looking in the place in my opinion. When I countered with $100, she would just say that her amiga will go for $100. On my last night, I caved.

Madahos and Hippo's dancers were asking 1200 to 1500 pesos last time I was there in November 2012 when we were getting 6.10 P to $1. I remember because it was the night Toyman paid off Esten for the Obama election bet.

The sad part of it was that Hook was basically $100 an hour between 12 and 2 AM for the dancers before Hippo closed and there were always 6 or 8 dancers in the house worth taking out. Closer to closing time, I know guys who negotiated down. Sideline girls at Hook were cheaper.

Buenos Aires was really cheap between 2001 and 2006 after the currency crisis of 2001-2002. But in those days, the streets were dirty, pensioners were begging for money on street corners and the restaurants scene was less established. Buenos Aires is a better place to visit today than in 2003 despite the rise in cost of nightclub girls.[/QUOTE]What you are saying is true. There are also $10.000 dollar a night girls in the US. I think what we are trying to say is there are much better options. Granted, if you have one night in town and no connections and you just have to do it...... Then you might be stuck paying a high price. But if you have the time and the desire to work a little bit I think no matter where you go there are girls available for less money then in the the usual tourist traps.

BBM, good points. I made my first trip to Bs As in July '07, I can remember the exchange rate was AR$3.09/USD. A half hour at 1707 Ste Fe was AR$70 (~US$23) and an hour was AR$120 (US$39). Propina was AR$20 (~US$6) for BBBJ. I can also remember senior AP'ers complaining that they had raised their prices....

So, for US$30, you could get a romp and a bbbj with a decent chica.

Shoot, it's had to get out of the newsstand at the airport spending less than that.

[QUOTE=Gandolf50;447327]What you are saying is true. There are also $10.000 dollar a night girls in the US. I think what we are trying to say is there are much better options. Granted, if you have one night in town and no connections and you just have to do it...... Then you might be stuck paying a high price. But if you have the time and the desire to work a little bit I think no matter where you go there are girls available for less money then in the the usual tourist traps.[/QUOTE]It's exactly the same thing as 6 months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago.

2006 Hook chicks were 50 bucks, they stayed for several hours. I don't care what anybody else has to say about that, I know it because I paid it. Everything else here until recently has stayed pretty close to the same dollar price as 2006, we are probably 20% down right now and it sucks but it will adjust. Hook chicks don't charge locals 2500-3500 pesos, they charge that for guys with accents. A year ago the time v money guys were saying that "100 dollars is the standard price worldwide for club pussy" next they will be saying that 200 is. It's because they only do it part time and they just don't care. There was guy staying at the house one time, a guy I considered a friend. I told him about Mia's place, I told him, they will ask you for 100 bucks but you can get out for 50 or 60. His response? "I'll just pay them whatever they ask, I can't be bothered to say anything." When I told him he would be making it more difficult for those of us who live here? "I'm only here for a week, not my problem.".

It was the last hookup I gave out.

There is not much mention of Hook anymore but there was one post that illustrates the problem. One guy who I assume was local wrote that he went with Noelia in January 2015. She asked for 1500P and settled for 1000P. So the local guys were getting a 33% haircut. Noelia, if I am remembering right was a dancer with small breasts and incredible ass. I think she danced on the AP House once when I was there.

The same guy in January 2016 was asked for 2500P and it appears the chica would not discount. He wrote he went home, turned on and wanked off to xvideos.

So I remember In November 2014, I was paying $100 for an hour but mostly I would always take out for 2 hours. The girl would charge me $50 for for the second hour. Basically what I would do is pay in dollars for the hour and give her pesos for the second hour. She ended up saving the dollars to buy land.

In October 2015, I basically bought the same girl out of Hook for three weeks. That ran to around $3000 so the cost per orgasm was way above any of these prices we are mentioning. I happened to like this girl and still do. I send her Christmas and Birthday presents.

She told me that business was really slow at Hook in October 2015. She is now out of the business since December 2015 which doesn't mean of course that she might not be back some day. We are planning to meet in Europe this summer if schedules can match up and of course I will pay for it.

As one guy put it on the local forum, the Grand Epoch of nightclubs in Buenos Aires is over. Too bad. The nightclub girls were far hotter in BA than in Colombia in my opinion. However, Sao Paulo is better for nightclubs in my opinion but that is going to be a $200 to $400 night based on October 2015 experiences at Bomboa and Bahamas. I wish I had checked out Scandallo and Gauguin when I was there. Taxi costs in Sao Paulo are also horrendous.

I will probably be back in BA most likely January 2017.

This maybe branching outside of the Hook discussion. However, I think that this year ('16), you are going to see more American businessmen in Bs AS. During my 3-4 year stint of doing business in Argentina, it was fairly uncommon for me to meet American businessmen, seeking opportunity. There will be an influx of >$15B of foreign capital coming into Argentina, this year. Foreign guys with money to spend will be following that money.

Unfortunately, while good for my business that isn't good for mongering.

A question for you expats and guys who know chicas, personally. With all the clubs being closed, where are the girls (who would normally be in the clubs) making cash? I doubt many of them want to work harder. I would expect them to go to other venues or online.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447336]It's exactly the same thing as 6 months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago.

2006 Hook chicks were 50 bucks, they stayed for several hours. I don't care what anybody else has to say about that, I know it because I paid it. Everything else here until recently has stayed pretty close to the same dollar price as 2006, we are probably 20% down right now and it sucks but it will adjust. Hook chicks don't charge locals 2500-3500 pesos, they charge that for guys with accents. A year ago the time v money guys were saying that "100 dollars is the standard price worldwide for club pussy" next they will be saying that 200 is. It's because they only do it part time and they just don't care. There was guy staying at the house one time, a guy I considered a friend. I told him about Mia's place, I told him, they will ask you for 100 bucks but you can get out for 50 or 60. His response? "I'll just pay them whatever they ask, I can't be bothered to say anything." When I told him he would be making it more difficult for those of us who live here? "I'm only here for a week, not my problem.".

It was the last hookup I gave out.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point...Visitors who over pay fuck it up for the local expats....The Argentinean don't pay anything like what we the expat community pay for the same pussy..because they haven't got the money.

If most locals are receiving a 500 pesos haircut in price, they also have to pay 300 pesos in telo charges at Tres Sargentos. Few would risk bringing a hooker over to the place that they live. I have experienced the very rare yelling scene with a girl I brought back to my place. Sometimes they want to put on loud music. The music in the clubs affects the hearing. I realize telo costs should not make a difference in negotiation between you and the girl but it narrows the overall advantage on what you spend for a night out.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;447344]If most locals are receiving a 500 pesos haircut in price, they also have to pay 300 pesos in telo charges at Tres Sargentos. Few would risk bringing a hooker over to the place that they live. I have experienced the very rare yelling scene with a girl I brought back to my place. Sometimes they want to put on loud music. The music in the clubs affects the hearing. I realize telo costs should not make a difference in negotiation between you and the girl but it narrows the overall advantage on what you spend for a night out.[/QUOTE]For a local, it is a difference. Out here in the boonies a lot of girls have their own place they work out of. For me, Id rather pay a girl 600p (todays avg +-) that works out of her house and not pay a hotel then the 500p or 600p plus the 200p (short time) or 350p (5 hours). For those of you here on vacation its not too much of a difference. But to those of us here that go out once or twice a week all year it does add up.

There is a girl that use to work at Hook that was :

Almost Cute.

Almost Blonde.

Almost Attractive and very highly recommended by numerous guys on this board.

( You can insert the name of just about any girl that has ever worked at Hook. ).

Would not go out for less than $200.00 dollars an hour about a year ago, Give or take.

Asked and received $500.00 one night.

Now -.

No longer attractive in any way.

Just had a child.

Too fat to work at Hook.

Working the street near and around Hook.

I wonder if she still sticks to her guns and demands $200.00 bones now ?

TL.

Too stupid to use birth control ?

How can she even guess who the father of the child is ?

The father is most likely her stupid boy friend. She probably made all of her customers wear a condom, but not the boy friend; however, she probably signs the welfare check over to her boy friend.

Tres3.

The internet is the way to go today. Hook up your google translator and do to town. Look in the locale foros or discussion groups like this site was a few yearts ago.use the translator to get a general idea as who is who and prices.

Get your smart phone going on wifi and sent translated texts. Then translate the texts you get back and play it by ear.

An easier way is to take one of the locale regulars out for a meal and promise to keep to the locale price range and they will either help you with the internet girls or introduce you. You must respect locale pricing.

To their local friends. You must repect their locale pricing rules or no will help you a second time.

Solo is the most expensive but easiest to navigate with a translator software.

[URL]http://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes.htm[/URL]

Discussion forum:

[URL]http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/f109/[/URL]

Barries girls is owned by the same folks and their foro and website are larger and more challenging.

Happy trails,

Bob in miami.

Several weeks ago, I ran into another former Hook chica who sorta fit this description, except for the recent child part, and who in my opinion had one of the greatest asses ever to swivel around a pole at Hook.

Always had a good relationship with this girl and for old times sake, bought her a coffee (when Exedra still allowed chica guests).

She was grateful to get out of the cold and chat with a familiar face. One thing led to another and we went back to my place. After she got over her embarrassment over the weight she had recently put on, we had the kind of GFE sex that advertisements promise but never deliver.

Cost: 1000 pesos!

Great sex is not a commodity.

Great sex arises from personal chemistry and empathy, not the price you pay.

P.S. The next time you meet this girl, she's going to have her figure back, and you're going to be begging to pay her more.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;447368]There is a girl that use to work at Hook that was :

Almost Cute.

Almost Blonde.

Almost Attractive and very highly recommended by numerous guys on this board.

( You can insert the name of just about any girl that has ever worked at Hook. ).

Would not go out for less than $200.00 dollars an hour about a year ago, Give or take.

Asked and received $500.00 one night.

Now -.

No longer attractive in any way.

Just had a child.

Too fat to work at Hook.

Working the street near and around Hook.

I wonder if she still sticks to her guns and demands $200.00 bones now ?

TL.

Too stupid to use birth control ?

How can she even guess who the father of the child is ?[/QUOTE]