2012 Elections in the USA

The refusal on the part of Barak Obama to release his college transcripts is going to prove to be his Waterloo. He is clearly hiding something that probably is not illegal but would be perceived by the media and the unwashed masses as unbecoming of a POTUS. Poor grades, intermittent attendance, lackluster participation, etc. are all standard practice (and currently perfectly legal) for community organizers but are inappropriate and unpatriotic for a potential POTUS, and if disclosed as fact will be used by Romney's team to shatter Obama's campaign.

[QUOTE=Jackson;424074]The refusal on the part of Barak Obama to release his college transcripts is going to prove to be his Waterloo. He is clearly hiding something that probably is not illegal but would be perceived by the media and the unwashed masses as unbecoming of a POTUS. Poor grades, intermittent attendance, lackluster participation, etc. are all standard practice (and currently perfectly legal) for community organizers but are inappropriate and unpatriotic for a potential POTUS, and if disclosed as fact will be used by Romney's team to shatter Obama's campaign.[/QUOTE]You are a piece of work. Always miss the point. So predictable it's funny!

Come on Jackson, you can do better than that. It is clear, even to a four year old, that NOBODY in this election cares or is even talking about Obama's college transcripts; the majority of voters in this election who will make the difference did not even go to college. Romney's shadowy financial dealings and history as a corporate raider, however, are making front page news and middle and working class voters are concerned that Mitt Romney might be the Mormon Gordon Gekko. Does anybody really believe that middle class voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida and going to relate to and vote for a Mormon Gordon Gekko, should it in fact be revealed that Romney has extensive offshore bank accounts, hedges / shorts against the USD, tax avoidance schemes, etc?

While watching Meet the Press they were talking about the Tax extensions. The republican said they should keep the Cuts and not tax the Job Creators. They have been getting this Tax Cut for YEARS!

Where's The JOBS they are Creating? China?

In this article this guy and others make Too Much Money. What do they do to justify making this much money? Since they are not the ones DOING the work.

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Verizon's Boss makes loads of Bucks, but wants his workers wages and benefits lowered.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 424098]While watching Meet the Press they were talking about the Tax extensions. The republican said they should keep the Cuts and not tax the Job Creators. They have been getting this Tax Cut for YEARS!

Where's The JOBS they are Creating? China?

In this article this guy and others make Too Much Money. What do they do to justify making this much money? Since they are not the ones DOING the work.

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Verizon's Boss makes loads of Bucks, but wants his workers wages and benefits lowered.[/QUOTE]The mercury out of silicone valley! IALOTFLMAO! Can you quote any source that isn't some wild-ass liberal spin rag out of silicone valley. Suggest you read the Obama "pink slip" billboards along the I-680 dude. LOL. So pathetic WT69. Say Hi to nancy for me Monday morning. Happy Mongering All. Toymann

And California.

In case you do not know it, that's where a lot of the money is.

They were just reporting the News.

No Spin, It's just your Head Is Spinning.

[QUOTE=Toymann;424104]The mercury out of silicone valley! IALOTFLMAO! Can you quote any source that isn't some wild-ass liberal spin rag out of silicone valley. Suggest you read the Obama "pink slip" billboards along the I-680 dude. LOL. So pathetic WT69. Say Hi to nancy for me Monday morning. Happy Mongering All. Toymann[/QUOTE]

P.S. Your Girlfriend Nancy was born in Baltimore, raised back East.

Much more money with the old Jews

Really can't SW much of the old Jew and Cuban vote going to or money inn south Florida.

Apparently, back in 2008 Romney gave the McCain campaign 23 years of tax returns during the vetting process for McCain's VP search; the word is that the contents of those tax returns is what led McCain to reject Romney as his running mate and go with Sarah Palin instead. In addition, Romney just went on five network interviews and again claimed he left Bain Capital completely in 1999 even though his signed, sworn statements to the SEC put him as the CEO, President, Chairman of the Board, and sole shareholder of Bain Capital until 2003; he is either lying now or he lied to the SEC on his signed, sworn statements. This is going to bring down the Romney campaign.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424110]Apparently, back in 2008 Romney gave the McCain campaign 23 years of tax returns during the vetting process for McCain's VP search; the word is that the contents of those tax returns is what led McCain to reject Romney as his running mate and go with Sarah Palin instead. In addition, Romney just went on five network interviews and again claimed he left Bain Capital completely in 1999 even though his signed, sworn statements to the SEC put him as the CEO, President, Chairman of the Board, and sole shareholder of Bain Capital until 2003; he is either lying now or he lied to the SEC on his signed, sworn statements. This is going to bring down the Romney campaign.[/QUOTE]Guese you are totally ignorant with regard to large company business practices in the US. It is totally common practice when a succesfull CEO / Owner steps down or moves on (both public and privately held companies) that the outgoing CEO / Owner stays on as chairman of the board / owner till a fully executed transition occurs. The transition is most often handled by others (especially when the exiting owner is being bought out, it's called the earn-out period) but the purpose of keeping the previous CEO / owner on the board is for name recognition / transitional purposes or earnout tax management planning. Romney has stated he was not involved in a management capacity with Bain after 1999. Thats what your papers clearly state IDIOT!

The Bain people have unequivalently confirmed this and on top of it all Romney began working his magic with the salt lake olympics full time immediately after he left Bain (guese why he left, its not rocket science, the Olympics were in huge trouble, and an international committee headed by a canadian begged him to take on the mess and fix it!). Did I mention he didn't even take a salary for his efforts. Did I mention he totally turned the project from a huge mess to the best run winter olympics of all time. Hmmm. He is good at turning a sows ear into a silk purse. Anyone know of a mess that needs cleaning up right now? Anyone, anyone?

Your statements SnakeOil serve to illustrate how totally ignorant you must be of the business world in america. You are a peice of work dude. I suggest you remain quite and be thought a fool than open your mouth again and remove all doubt! IALOTFLMAO at you! America is much smarter than you give us credit for retard. This type of smoke screen just doesn't play well in 2012. Keep howling at the moon dude! Or move to Canada! Just more misdirection from the wild-ass liberals. Tick Tick Tick. Hope you don't cry to hard in novemeber. Your're socialist, hand-out, society just doesn't play in america. It's been tried before and rejected. Happy Mongering All but Snake Boy. Toymann

ps. read your 12 posts dude. Too funny. Thanx for the contributions so far. Stupid and ignorant is no way to go through life young man! IALOTFLMAO

[QUOTE=Toymann; 424111]Guese you are totally ignorant with regard to large company business practices in the US. It is totally common practice when a succesfull CEO / Owner steps down or moves on (both public and privately held companies) that the outgoing CEO / Owner stays on as chairman of the board / owner till a fully executed transition occurs. The transition is most often handled by others (especially when the exiting owner is being bought out, it's called the earn-out period) but the purpose of keeping the previous CEO / owner on the board is for name recognition / transitional purposes or earnout tax management planning. Romney has stated he was not involved in a management capacity with Bain after 1999. Thats what your papers clearly state IDIOT!

The Bain people have unequivalently confirmed this and on top of it all Romney began working his magic with the salt lake olympics full time immediately after he left Bain (guese why he left, its not rocket science, the Olympics were in huge trouble, and an international committee headed by a canadian begged him to take on the mess and fix it!). Did I mention he didn't even take a salary for his efforts. Did I mention he totally turned the project from a huge mess to the best run winter olympics of all time. Hmmm. He is good at turning a sows ear into a silk purse. Anyone know of a mess that needs cleaning up right now? Anyone, anyone?

Your statements SnakeOil serve to illustrate how totally ignorant you must be of the business world in america. You are a peice of work dude. I suggest you remain quite and be thought a fool than open your mouth again and remove all doubt! IALOTFLMAO at you! America is much smarter than you give us credit for retard. This type of smoke screen just doesn't play well in 2012. Keep howling at the moon dude! Or move to Canada! Just more misdirection from the wild-ass liberals. Tick Tick Tick. Hope you don't cry to hard in novemeber. Your're socialist, hand-out, society just doesn't play in america. It's been tried before and rejected. Happy Mongering All but Snake Boy. Toymann.

Ps. Read your 12 posts dude. Too funny. Thanks for the contributions so far. Stupid and ignorant is no way to go through life young man! IALOTFLMAO[/QUOTE]Whether I am ignorant or not about the business world is totally inconsequential to this discussion of the upcoming election; I am not running for any office, however Romney IS running for office and he is clearly hiding something messy in those 23 years of tax returns he has yet to fork over to be analyzed. He is probably concealing the same sort of shifty tax avoidance schemes, exotic offshore holdings, and USD shorts that all Wall Street Sharks utilize. The vast majority of Americans do not trust the Wall Street Sharks who through their absolutely reckless and greedy riverboat gambling nearly sank (and may yet sink) the entire financial world. Americans are still mad that the Wall Street Sharks gambled, lost, and then got bailed out 100 cents on the dollar thanks to sweetheart deals between current and former Wall Street Sharks in and out of government. The key here for Obama is to paint Romney as one of these such Wall Street Sharks and once these tax returns are released it will be like Christmas, Easter, New Year's Eve and Barack's birthday all rolled into one for the Obama campaign.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424112]once these tax returns are released it will be like Christmas, Easter, New Year's Eve and Barack's birthday all rolled into one for the Obama campaign. [snip][/QUOTE]What makes you think he will release his tax returns? If he does he will probably take at least as long as Obama took to come up with a birth certificate.

[QUOTE=Punter 127;424113]What makes you think he will release his tax returns? If he does he will probably take at least as long as Obama took to come up with a birth certificate.[/QUOTE]I think the pressure from within his own party and the non-stop attacks by the Obama campaign will force his hand on this. Already, the governor of Alabama, the former governor of Mississippi, and several well known Republican pundits and strategists are calling for Romney to in fact release the returns. Romney simply will not be able to re-frame the electoral debate / discussion and successfully go on the offensive against Obama until he comes clean with his tax returns. In addition, although this might sound a bit arcane at this point, I believe the Republican party powers that be want this storm to explode BEFORE Romney is formally nominated so they can come up with a plan B at the convention should some damning skeleton be found in Romney's tax return closet.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424114]I think the pressure from within his own party and the non-stop attacks by the Obama campaign will force his hand on this. Already, the governor of Alabama, the former governor of Mississippi, and several well known Republican pundits and strategists are calling for Romney to in fact release the returns. Romney simply will not be able to re-frame the electoral debate / discussion and successfully go on the offensive against Obama until he comes clean with his tax returns. In addition, although this might sound a bit arcane at this point, I believe the Republican party powers that be want this storm to explode BEFORE Romney is formally nominated so they can come up with a plan B at the convention should some damning skeleton be found in Romney's tax return closet.[/QUOTE]I think it's just wishful thinking on your part.
Just this weeks distraction from Obamas failed record.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424110]Apparently, back in 2008 Romney gave the McCain campaign 23 years of tax returns during the vetting process for McCain's VP search; the word is that the contents of those tax returns is what led McCain to reject Romney as his running mate and go with Sarah Palin instead. In addition, Romney just went on five network interviews and again claimed he left Bain Capital completely in 1999 even though his signed, sworn statements to the SEC put him as the CEO, President, Chairman of the Board, and sole shareholder of Bain Capital until 2003; he is either lying now or he lied to the SEC on his signed, sworn statements. This is going to bring down the Romney campaign.[/QUOTE] Edited to remove facts already covered by Toymann
If there really was anything to this issue, BO would have the SEC all over MR's butt. The fact that nothing is going on with the SEC should tell you that there is nothing really there.

More interesting to me is why no one seems to be talking about BO protecting Corzine who took down MF Global. MF Global hired Attorney General Holder's close friend Reid Weingarten to defend Edith Obrien. Edith Obrien is the MF Global employee who can bury Corzine. So now you have the circle jerk defense for the lack of prosecution of Corzine and other MF Global executives.

We cannot prosecute Corzine for a lack of evidence. But we cannot get the evidence because the Justice Department refuses to give Obrien immunity from prosecution. Keep in mind that one of Obrien's emails regarding the illegal money transfers states that it was per JC's specific instructions. So Corzine, who is busy doing fundraiser's for BO, gets off from prosecution because the Justice Department refuses to provide immunity to an underling.

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