American Politics during the Obama Presidency

The Bengazi attack on our embassy occurred a short time after the overthrow of Moammar Ghadafi, made possible in part by our and England's bombing raids on the Ghadafi forces. The country was in flux at the time and not very secure, and it still is not secure now as terrorist groups are fighting it out for control of Libya. Your statements:

"a US Dept of State Diplomatic facility had been attacked and destroyed".

"an American ambassador had been killed by Muslim terrorists during a terrorist attack.".

While true, doesn't mean there was a coverup of what happened by the Obama administration. While unfortunate that our ambassador was killed and a few other Americans also, but spending all this time with a House committee hoping to find blame is just a total waste of time and money.

Thanks.

Bayboy.

Political gamesmanship. A never ending game. And so it goes, that often, the politicians end up speaking from the side of their mouth and looking up into the sky. Role reversals depending on who is in the hot seat for the moment. And their mindless base caught up in the frenzy game, repeating the propaganda as gospel truth. A never ending sad saga.

[QUOTE=Jackson;442593]
Probably not, given the previously muted reaction to MIT professor Jonathan Gruber's public comments and my realization that the members of this forum are apparently indifferent towards elected government officials espousing outright lies to the American people in pursuit of their political agendas.[/QUOTE]You don't understand. The people are stupid. Therefore the elite must lie in order to do what is best for the people.

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDomkBtJC7Q[/URL]

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI[/URL]

[I] I'm bringing this up because this guy, Jonathan Gruber, he's an M.I.T. professor who worked on the Obama health care plan. Big controversy because they found a tape of him basically saying that the American people are stupid because he -- a lot of tapes -- because what he was saying to get the bill passed we had to do a lot of sleight of hand or else they would not have voted for it. If we called it a "tax" -- even though it was a tax -- you have to basically slip a pill in the dog's food in a piece of ham to get the dog to eat the pill. I agree, and I've heard nobody else in America say that. Everybody on the left and the right: "Oh, how could he call American's stupid?"[/I] - Bill Mahr

[I]I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University.[/I] -William F. Buckley Jr.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;442612]I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory [/QUOTE]"Government by sortition." It's been tried.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;442591]The House committee investigating the Bengazi attack has wasted $3.3 million already on their findings.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BayBoy;442598]...but spending all this time with a House committee hoping to find blame is just a total waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]It could have been a whole lot [U]LESS[/U] money spent if Eric holder had cooperated in the investigation as Obama had promised his administration would do.

Get it?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;442596]Answer Fox.

That is where you get all your [B]bullshit to write your bullshit[/B].

I am not a writer, that is why I let other people; that believe in the same things as I do, say it for me.[/quote]I understand your desire to let other people do the writing for you, but do you have to let them do the thinking for you too?

Please, for once just try to author an original thought for yourself. I'm sure we'll all be impressed at the depth of your unfettered insight.

Here, let me get you started: Barak Obama is the greatest president in the history of the human race because...

[Write your original thoughts here]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;442596]Your questions 1-4 you read from the headlines, you did not say them, just repeated them after Fox twists the stories.

I have more in my life to do than write and read all the [B]bullshit[/B] you write; such keeping the List and Maps up to date, so YOU can make more Money.[/QUOTE]For your information, I personally authored every word in my post.

Nothing was copied from any source.

You're welcome.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;442598]While true, doesn't mean there was a coverup of what happened by the Obama administration. While unfortunate that our ambassador was killed and a few other Americans also, but spending all this time with a House committee hoping to find blame is just a total waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]So why is the Obama Administration stonewalling the Congressional investigation?

What would be the point of covering up a non-coverup?

7 panels have investigated the Bengazi incident. And they have all come to the same conclusion that the administration did nothing wrong in its handling of the situation. How many more of these Republican controlled House committees are going to try and find some minutae so they can point the finger at Pres. Obama.

Most everything you post is from hearsay.

Or your opinions on issues you heard on FOX.

Try BBC or One America News Network [URL]http://www.oann.com[/URL]; except at night, when they have some right winger spewing his bullshit.
or, [URL]http://america.aljazeera.com/[/URL]

If you can get them, which I doubt being your in Buenos Aires.

I listen to about 6 or 7 news stations, because I can get them.

I can't read this thread, it makes my eyes bleed.

However I thought this might be interesting;.

[B]New US Ambassador to Argentina Makes it to The Daily Show[/B]

[URL]http://bubblear.com/jon-stewarts-take-new-us-ambassador-argentina/[/URL]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;442643]Most everything you post is from hearsay.

Or your opinions on issues you heard on FOX.

Try BBC or One America News Network [URL]http://www.oann.com[/URL]; except at night, when they have some right winger spewing his bullshit.
or, [URL]http://america.aljazeera.com/[/URL]

If you can get them, which I doubt being your in Buenos Aires.

I listen to about 6 or 7 news stations, because I can get them.[/QUOTE]You must be the most delusional person on the planet if you think those news organizations are unbiased. A better description would be here are two examples of the two greatest propaganda networks for their respective agendas.

Of course you have demonstrated over and over again that your world view is so skewed that extreme nut jobs seem unbiased to you.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;442860]I can't read this thread, it makes my eyes bleed.

However I thought this might be interesting;.

[B]New US Ambassador to Argentina Makes it to The Daily Show[/B]

[URL]http://bubblear.com/jon-stewarts-take-new-us-ambassador-argentina/[/URL][/QUOTE]Your post is what makes my eyes bleed. The ignorance and naivety of Jon Stewart, and you, Mr. Daddy Rulz, are breathtaking. So the new USA ambassador to Argentina doesn't speak Spanish and knows absolutely nothing about South America or diplomacy. So his life experience is funding and carrying out political campaigns. What you don't understand IS THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CRISTINA NEEDS. Her popularity ratings are low. She doesn't know what to do with those bags of cash stashed in her house and Swiss Bank Accounts. How do you launder the money and get it headed towards its highest use, in political campaigns? What to do about that pesky Mr. Baez, who did her dirty work and got caught? Making Noah Mamet ambassador to Argentina was a master stroke. These are the kinds of problems he knows how to fix. There is no better way to ingratiate the United States of America in the eyes of the leader of Argentina. This is like a gift from God for Cristina, or actually a gift from Barack Obama. Who cares, they're one and the same.

Seriously, thanks for the link, very interesting.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;442870]Your post is what makes my eyes bleed. The ignorance and naivety of Jon Stewart, and you, Mr. Daddy Rulz, are breathtaking. So the new USA ambassador to Argentina doesn't speak Spanish and knows absolutely nothing about South America or diplomacy. So his life experience is funding and carrying out political campaigns. What you don't understand IS THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CRISTINA NEEDS. Her popularity ratings are low. She doesn't know what to do with those bags of cash stashed in her house and Swiss Bank Accounts. How do you launder the money and get it headed towards its highest use, in political campaigns? What to do about that pesky Mr. Baez, who did her dirty work and got caught? Making Noah Mamet ambassador to Argentina was a master stroke. These are the kinds of problems he knows how to fix. There is no better way to ingratiate the United States of America in the eyes of the leader of Argentina. This is like a gift from God for Cristina, or actually a gift from Barack Obama. Who cares, they're one and the same.

Seriously, thanks for the link, very interesting.[/QUOTE]Oh I know, fuck you asswipe. You don't know me, you have never met me, the only person demonstrating ignorance here is you. If you did know me you would know I'm a card carrying member of the apathetic party. I thought it was funny and political so I shared it for comic release you fucking cumstain.

If you would like to talk about naivete, I would direct you to your involvement in this thread. You still think that there is a difference between these guys, that one is somehow better than the other and you spend hours of your life wasting your time here. You are emotionally involved in things that you will never, ever influence. Please continue seeking relevance here, I on the other hand will be out having a life because Carlin got it right a long time ago;.

"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. . . You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They've long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. ".

Yet you continue to insist that one is somehow better than another, that one somehow represents your interests better than another. Wake the fuck up, this has been going on for decades, you have no, zero, seriously no access in any way to your government, your views or best interests are not being represented. I should probably go back and remove the insults, you are much more pitiful than you are contemptible. You are arguing about which Oligarch that you would prefer to be fucked by.

Sad.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;442872]Oh I know, fuck you asswipe. You don't know me, you have never met me, the only person demonstrating ignorance here is you. If you did know me you would know I'm a card carrying member of the apathetic party. I thought it was funny and political so I shared it for comic release you fucking cumstain.

If you would like to talk about naivete, I would direct you to your involvement in this thread. You still think that there is a difference between these guys, that one is somehow better than the other and you spend hours of your life wasting your time here. You are emotionally involved in things that you will never, ever influence. Please continue seeking relevance here, I on the other hand will be out having a life because Carlin got it right a long time ago;.

"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. . . You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They've long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. ".

Yet you continue to insist that one is somehow better than another, that one somehow represents your interests better than another. Wake the fuck up, this has been going on for decades, you have no, zero, seriously no access in any way to your government, your views or best interests are not being represented. I should probably go back and remove the insults, you are much more pitiful than you are contemptible. You are arguing about which Oligarch that you would prefer to be fucked by.

Sad.[/QUOTE]Not to get involved but I always love to see George Carlin quoted. A member of the great deceased comedic triad along with Richard Pryor and Bill Hicks.

OK, I learned my lesson. Next time I just say "Thanks, hilarious," and shut up.

I do not believe you or Jon Stewart is ignorant or naive. That was a misguided attempt at irony and humor. I thought your link was humorous. The word "seriously" at the end should have been a tip off. The percentage of my posts about George W. Bush that are negative would be about the same as the percentage of my posts about Barack H. Obama that are negative. I am one of the minority that shares your views about the NSA. If you get fucked by politicians and wish not to complain about it, or if you wish to withhold support for those politicians that do share your views because there aren't enough to make a difference, that's understandable. There is a contingent here that believes Barack Obama walks on water. If you are not a member then my final comment was not directed at you.