American Politics during the Obama Presidency

Are you saying that FOX is unbiased?

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[QUOTE=SpiritRider;442867]You must be the most delusional person on the planet if you think those news organizations are unbiased. A better description would be here are two examples of the two greatest propaganda networks for their respective agendas.

Of course you have demonstrated over and over again that your world view is so skewed that extreme nut jobs seem unbiased to you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;442875]Are you saying that FOX is unbiased?

[URL]http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/12/01/the-real-benghazi-scandal/m2kWG5SzdvT0JO6ChxcuhP/story.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Once again, WT posts yet another link to somebody else's opinion, along with yet another cartoon.

WT, you just don't get it.

This is a [U]discussion[/U] [U]forum[/U], wherein the partipants articulate [U]their[/U] [U]own[/U] [U]opinions[/U] on the topics being discussed.

If everyone followed your example, this thread would be a link exchange, i. e...

"[I]Here's a link to an article I like[/I]"

Followed with a response...

"[I]Okay, here's a link to an article I like[/I]"

Followed with...

"[I]Okay, but here's a link to another article I like[/I]"

Etc., etc., etc.

Get it?

Now please try to author your own comments, and please stop sending us to links to government mouthpieces like the BBC (owned by the British Government), RT (Russia Times, owned by the Russian Government), and Aljazeera (owned by the ruling family of Qatar).

Thanks,

Jax.

I can't laughing at your posts. Just like Daddy said, you make my eyes bleed.

Why should I write about something when some one did it for me?
Un like you, you parrot what Bill O'Reilly says.

[QUOTE=Jackson;442876]Once again, WT posts yet another link to somebody else's opinion, along with yet another cartoon.

WT, you just don't get it.

This is a [U]discussion[/U] [U]forum[/U], wherein the partipants articulate [U]their[/U] [U]own[/U] [U]opinions[/U] on the topics being discussed.

If everyone followed your example, this thread would be a link exchange, i. e...

"[I]Here's a link to an article I like[/I]"

Followed with a response...

"[I]Okay, here's a link to an article I like[/I]"

Followed with...

"[I]Okay, but here's a link to another article I like[/I]"

Etc., etc., etc.

Get it?

Now please try to author your own comments, and please stop sending us to links to government mouthpieces like the BBC (owned by the British Government), RT (Russia Times, owned by the Russian Government), and Aljazeera (owned by the ruling family of Qatar).

Thanks,

Jax.[/QUOTE]

A couple of months ago I went over to my local Starbucks for some coffee and lo and behold my county supervisor was there. He invited me to join him at his table and we talked local politics. Then my US congressman showed up with his secretary. She bought me a coffee, and we then carried on the conversation of local hot political issues. Both these pols were democrats. I was on cloud 9 thinking, man I'm hanging out with the big dogs in my county.

No I didn't raise hell, just did a lot of listening, throwing in my 2 cents here and there. That's about as close as I'll ever get to the power brokers.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;442875]Are you saying that FOX is unbiased?

[URL]http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/12/01/the-real-benghazi-scandal/m2kWG5SzdvT0JO6ChxcuhP/story.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not saying that at all. , but Fox News Channel is no more biased to the right than ABC / CBS / NBC are biased to the left. However, you are certainly hilarious in quoting the Boston Globe on the issue of bias. Although the Globe has certainly tempered somewhat since John Henry bought it from the NY Times last year. You know the RED lady "all the news that's made up to print. ".

There is one and only one bias in media, profit nothing else. They have audiences they cater to in order to create ratings to sell advertising, nothing more. There is nothing wrong with that, I do it myself in my work. However; debating about which outlet is more accurate is meaningless.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;442899]There is one and only one bias in media, profit nothing else. They have audiences they cater to in order to create ratings to sell advertising, nothing more. There is nothing wrong with that, I do it myself in my work. However; debating about which outlet is more accurate is meaningless.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree entirely. For instance, I consider PBS' News Hour to be the most unbiased news source available. Now, if you would evaluate the staff, you would probably find their personal views lean more to the progressive side.

However, the big difference is that they have integrity and a commitment to report the news without bias. I don't believe this just a function of where their funding comes from. Typical journalists are so colored by their world views they can't even imagine their own biases (right or left). In fact I have seen many of the most biased journalists adamantly insist they have no biases.

We are human we all have our own worldview and biases. A truly objective person sees them in themselves as well as others. I remember seeing a journalist responding to the question about why they became a journalist. Her response was "I wanted to save the world. " That statement right there disqualifies her, because she clearly has an agenda. Your only commitment as a journalist should be to the truth even if it hurts. Unfortunately, most journalists, producers, executives will bury stories that don't meet their world views.

Looking for an unbiased news source? Try C - Span. I get 1-2-3 on my cable TV. They try and stay even handed on all the issues and don't take sides. Just the news and only the news.

As our members disabuse each other in vulgar personal assaults, perhaps we should remember the season and lighten up a bit. After all gentleman its only life, nothing serious.

On that note I received the following and wished to share it with you all. Food for though.

Interesting Observation.

During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the USA Produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.

We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed the-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb, and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.

It's worth noting that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a web site.

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;442910]As our members disabuse each other in vulgar personal assaults, perhaps we should remember the season and lighten up a bit. After all gentleman its only life, nothing serious.

On that note I received the following and wished to share it with you all. Food for though.
It's worth noting that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a web site.[/QUOTE]May I suggest you visit an ophthalmologist.

During the last 3 1/2 years the Republicans keep saying they haven't had time to read the Affordable Care Act.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;442913]During the last 3 1/2 years the Republicans keep saying they haven't had time to read the Affordable Care Act.[/QUOTE]First:

As usual just can't seem to stay on topic, comment has nothing to do with the post.

Second:

Your statement is false. Please provide some proof to back up such an obvious misrepresentation.

[QUOTE=RevBS;442911]May I suggest you visit an ophthalmologist.[/QUOTE]You may not like the observation but your dislike does not negate the fact it is true. The website still is not functioning as advertised.

Both FDR and Obama are Democrats, but I doubt FDR would find much to admire in our current president and much to dislike.

I would suggest you read one or all of these biographies of FDR:

FDR by Jean Edward Smith.

Traitor to His Class by H. W. Brands.

FDR's Folly by Jim Powell.

Franklin and Winston by Jon Meacham.

Six Months in 1945 by Michael Dobbs.

Powell's is a good counter point to the "New Deal" and it's shortcomings as well as the man himself.

Please do not attempt to compare the feeble, bumbling, incompetent, prevaricating current occupant of the White House with FDR. I am sure after becoming familiar with FDR you may come to see he would probably consider this president to be anti-American.

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;442917]

Please do not attempt to compare the feeble, bumbling, incompetent, prevaricating current occupant of the White House with FDR. I am sure after becoming familiar with FDR you may come to see he would probably consider this president to be anti-American.[/QUOTE]Joe Montana vs Tom Brady? The only clear thing is that we will never agree? But we can express our opinions.

The Dow Jones has been hovering in the high 17,000's. It has been quite a remarkable winning run. How, why? I really don't care. I remember a guy at the post office telling me he had to keep working because of the beating he took on his 401 k in 2008. So last night, I was eating Indian rojak & drinking tea tarik in Singapore with my high school buddies. And a few days ago, I was eating fresh sashimi in Sydney. 2 very expensive cities. And in a few months, I'll be in the Seychelles. Thanks, Barack.

No, no, no. No caviar, no Cuban cigar for me. Nothing like that. I live on my socialist SS income. So my 2 economy RD tickets cost 398 dollars total on Malaysian Airlines. Except for a few bawling kids, flight was great with inflight entertainment & food / service commendable. And 450 dollars for a clean / comfortable room in quiet trendy Birchgrove for 6 nights. Ferries & buses 3-10 minutes walk.

Thanks, FDR & Obama, the 2 run & pass duo threats. They did the job for me.

Here's some good ammo for the anti-government folks. It's pretty heinous.

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