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Obama announces reestablishment of diplomatic and limited economic relations with Cuba.
[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-17/obama-to-announce-u-s-cuba-relations-shift-as-gross-is-released.html[/URL]
Another history altering achievement for what is turning out to be a truly historically remarkable presidency.
The Republican Congress is moaning.
[QUOTE=ElAlamoPalermo;443000]Obama announces reestablishment of diplomatic and limited economic relations with Cuba.
[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-17/obama-to-announce-u-s-cuba-relations-shift-as-gross-is-released.html[/URL]
Another history altering achievement for what is turning out to be a truly historically remarkable presidency.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443001][b]But[/b]
The Republican Congress is moaning.[/QUOTE][I][b]"Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-NJ) slammed the Obama administration for exchanging imprisoned aid worker Alan Gross with Cuba for three Cuban spies. Menendez calls it a dangerous precedent and one that absolves the Castro regimes behavior.
Let's be clear, this was not a humanitarian act by the Castro regime. It was a swap of convicted spies for an innocent American, the New Jersey Democrat said in a statement. President Obama's actions have vindicated the brutal behavior of the Cuban government."[/I][/b]
[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/17/Senate-Dem-Obama-Has-Vindicated-The-Brutal-Behavior-of-the-Cuban-Government[/URL]
Looks like some Democrats are also upset, but we would never expect you to acknowledge it.
Who cares whether it "absolves the Castro regime's behavior" or not? The Castro regime is dying its own death and Fulgencio Batista would have turned the whole island into a fucking casino anyway. The whole revolution stemmed from us "absolving the behavior" of Batista and his cronies. How is Cuba even relevant nowadays? What the fuck do we need them for? Cigars? Legal hydroponic marijuana going to take all the market share from Cuba. "Made in USA. " Like we even need to go there when there is Puerto Rico and the DR.
Think how stupid it was of them to let all those baseball stars defect and become citizens of whatever suckass country Aroldis Chapman got his papers from, when they could have auctioned off rights to them, like Korea and Japan and I think maybe Taiwan are doing. Oh yeah; he has residency in Andorra. Gee, I wonder why Andorra. He doesn't really look like his ancestors came from there or anything.
The Good Old White boys Demos are also mad about what the black man wishes.
If you check your history about the southern states they were mostly Democrats, but, their beliefs were Republican. Servitude was okay. Or Like Now Minimum Wage, With no Health Care.
I just had dinner, but had to pay on my dinner bill an extra 3% for their workers Heath Care, because the employer would not pay their employees Health Care.
I Know you were too young to know what they misled us in school to believe in or what they told us to believe in what was the truth. It was just like they told us that all Indians were devils or Heathens.
I did too believed in what the told us, but my mind was not sure about what they said, so I read and listen to more points of View.
They lied to Us.
[QUOTE=Punter127;443007][I][b]"Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-NJ) slammed the Obama administration for exchanging imprisoned aid worker Alan Gross with Cuba for three Cuban spies. Menendez calls it a dangerous precedent and one that absolves the Castro regimes behavior.
Let's be clear, this was not a humanitarian act by the Castro regime. It was a swap of convicted spies for an innocent American, the New Jersey Democrat said in a statement. President Obama's actions have vindicated the brutal behavior of the Cuban government."[/I][/b]
[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/17/Senate-Dem-Obama-Has-Vindicated-The-Brutal-Behavior-of-the-Cuban-Government[/URL]
Looks like some Democrats are also upset, but we would never expect you to acknowledge it.[/QUOTE]
WT69/ Esten / Dickhead et al.
You guys are right the US is a racist, oppressive, militarily aggressive country ruled by the greedy evil rich who run the government and industry in a rigged system to deny people a living wage and healthcare benefits.
Then why do so many people risk their lives to come here and not to the worker paradise of Cuba, Venezuela, China and all the rest?
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;443011]WT69/ Esten / Dickhead et al.
You guys are right the US is a racist, oppressive, militarily aggressive country ruled by the greedy evil rich who run the government and industry in a rigged system to deny people a living wage and healthcare benefits.
Then why do so many people risk their lives to come here and not to the worker paradise of Cuba, Venezuela, China and all the rest?[/QUOTE]Show me even one post where I have talked about the workers' situation in [B]any[/B] of those countries. I haven't been to either Cuba or China and I was 20 years old and drunk when I was in Venezuela. I don't know jack about the workers' situation in those places, and I haven't written squat about any of them. You must have me confused with some other left-wing asshole. I'm not even very far to the left and you would know that if you paid attention. The single and only thing I know about working in any of those countries is that China denied me a work visa. So fuck China.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]The Good Old White boys Demos are also mad about what the black man wishes.[/QUOTE]I hate to be the one to break it to you but Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez is a Cuban American Democrat from New Jersey, so he is not "white' nor is he from the south. It might also surprise you to know he has been a very strong supporter of Obama. However because he disagrees now you classify him a racist, how typical. Bigoted race baiters like you have played a huge role in the deteriorating race relations in the country. You and your ilk have help create a tender box that's flaming up nation wide with your hackneyed race accusations. IMHO.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]If you check your history about the southern states they were mostly Democrats, but, their beliefs were Republican. Servitude was okay. Or Like Now Minimum Wage, With no Health Care.[/QUOTE]You're the one who needs a history lesson, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican. The history of racism in this country is bred in the bone of the Democrat party, they are responsible for the creation of the KKK and Jim Crow laws. Who in the Republican party has supported slavery? There may be some white supremacist in the Republican party, but the list of white supremacist in the history of the Democrat party is very long. You can argue that the parties swapped positions but that's unprovable and simply a bogus talking point. The Democrat party continues to try and control people today only their tactics have changed. Today we have the government plantation where government giveaways are used to control people. The bottom line is you can not wish the history of the Democrat party away.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]I just had dinner, but had to pay on my dinner bill an extra 3% for their workers Heath Care, because the employer would not pay their employees Hearth Care.[/QUOTE]I thought ObamaCare was supposed to eliminate such problems?
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]I Know you were too young to know what they misled us in school to believe in or what they told us to believe in what was the truth. It was just like they told us that all Indians were devils or Heathens.
I did too believed in what the told us, but my mind was not sure about what they said, so I read and listen to more points of View.
They lied to Us.[/QUOTE]I suspect there is 5 years or less between our ages, and I never heard the American Indians referred to as "devils" and the only time I can remember them being called "Heathens" was when your buddies in Hollywood did it in the movies, but never in school.
However I can't speak for the teachings of the government schools in socialist California, anything is possible there.
Freed the slaves. Both houses were controlled by Republicans.
Yes the Tennessee confederate soldiers and the Southern Democrats were responsible for the creation of the KKK and the Jim Crow laws.
The manager of the restaurant said something about the city of Berkeley Marina laws that said we had to pay 3% to help with the employees heath care. The manager could explain the law either.
Ever read "Bury my heart at Wounded Knee"?
[QUOTE=Punter127;443017]I hate to be the one to break it to you but Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez is a Cuban American Democrat from New Jersey, so he is not "white' nor is he from the south. It might also surprise you to know he has been a very strong supporter of Obama. However because he disagrees now you classify him a racist, how typical. Bigoted race baiters like you have played a huge role in the deteriorating race relations in the country. You and your ilk have help create a tender box that's flaming up nation wide with your hackneyed race accusations. IMHO.
You're the one who needs a history lesson, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican. The history of racism in this country is bred in the bone of the Democrat party, they are responsible for the creation of the KKK and Jim Crow laws. Who in the Republican party has supported slavery? There may be some white supremacist in the Republican party, but the list of white supremacist in the history of the Democrat party is very long. You can argue that the parties swapped positions but that's unprovable and simply a bogus talking point. The Democrat party continues to try and control people today only their tactics have changed. Today we have the government plantation where government giveaways are used to control people. The bottom line is you can not wish the history of the Democrat party away.
I thought [B]Affordable Health Care Act[/b] was supposed to eliminate such problems?
I suspect there is 5 years or less between our ages, and I never heard the American Indians referred to as "devils" and the only time I can remember them being called "Heathens" was when your buddies in Hollywood did it in the movies, but never in school.
However I can't speak for the teachings of the government schools in socialist California, anything is possible there.[/QUOTE]
Most of the time when used, the writer actually is implying "In My UN-HUMBLED Opinion", I am a stud.
Sorry for the interruption, it's 7 am, and I had 3 cups of coffee already.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]I just had dinner, but had to pay on my dinner bill an extra 3% for their workers Heath Care, because the employer would not pay their employees Health Care.[/QUOTE]You are not required to pay that, and are free to refuse, and should. Let them raise prices if they want, but that "surcharge" bullshit is just political whining.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443018]A presidential proclamation and executive order. Freed the slaves. Both houses were controlled by Republicans.[/QUOTE]Sorry, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free a single slave. I was a pure publicity stunt. It freed slaves ONLY in states that were in rebellion, where the union had no jurisdiction. In other words, entirely backwards if the intent was to free slaves. It didn't free slaves that were in union states where he actually had the ability to do so.
[QUOTE=Punter127;443017] Robert Menendez is a Cuban American Democrat from New Jersey, so he is not "white' [/QUOTE]The first part of that statement is certainly true, but how the second part follows from it eludes me. I can't even get to [I]post hoc ergo propiter hoc [/I]with that one. You are saying that no Cuban Americans can be white. Seems like a racist assumption. Hmm. Aren't a lot of Cubans of Spanish descent? So Spaniards aren't white? And if European people aren't white, who is? But anyone can google Menéndez and decide for themselves how white he is or isn't. The boy looks pretty pale to me but then I just got back from Hawaii.
The history of racism in this country was bred long before today's political parties emerged. Weren't we like kinda mean to the indigenous people? Weren't there slaves in the US colonies? Isn't colonialism sort of inherently racist? These people are inferior so let's occupy their land and exploit them economically and sexually? Kill most of them off? Did I miss something here?
Then in 1776 or 1789 was there a race to abolish slavery and property qualifications for voting? I think not. I say we blame all the racial problems on the Whigs. If it weren't for those god damn Whigs everything would have been peachy and it would have been a racial Shangri-La. Really, nothing like the modern day Democratic or Republican parties existed in 1863 so it's just absurd to blame or credit one or the other for emancipation or lack thereof. Or we could blame it on the Bull Moose Party, given the virulent racism of Teddy Roosevelt.
I don't really think the US has reached the point of no racism nor will it ever. But, I think we've gotten to a tipping point where for every racism there is an equal an opposite racism. So the fulcrum does not need to be moved any more in relation to the lever, or the seesaw is balanced, or something like that. Some might argue that "racism" is nothing more than protective xenophobia.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;443022]The first part of that statement is certainly true, but how the second part follows from it eludes me. I can't even get to [I]post hoc ergo propiter hoc [/I]with that one. You are saying that no Cuban Americans can be white. [/QUOTE]Technically you're correct, but I was responding to WT's use of "The Good Old White boys" which I don't believe he was speaking of (white) Cubans, Spaniards, or Latinos. I think we all know who he was talking about, when he first lashed out it was Republican, and when his hand was called he came back with the following statement.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]The Good Old White boys Demos are also mad about what the black man wishes. [/QUOTE]Hmmm, no polemic against WT 69 from you for his statements?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;443022]The history of racism in this country was bred long before today's political parties emerged. Weren't we like kinda mean to the indigenous people? Weren't there slaves in the US colonies? Isn't colonialism sort of inherently racist? These people are inferior so let's occupy their land and exploit them economically and sexually? Kill most of them off? Did I miss something here?[/QUOTE]Yes, you seem to have missed the fact that todays Democrats like WT 69 want to blame all racism on "old white guys", they also inject words like "southern" and "successful" in the mix. Seems kind of odd that you haven't picked up on all that? But I don't remember you ever speaking a single word about any of those type of statements.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;443022]Then in 1776 or 1789 was there a race to abolish slavery and property qualifications for voting? I think not. I say we blame all the racial problems on the Whigs. If it weren't for those god damn Whigs everything would have been peachy and it would have been a racial Shangri-La. Really, nothing like the modern day Democratic or Republican parties existed in 1863 so it's just absurd to blame or credit one or the other for emancipation or lack thereof. Or we could blame it on the Bull Moose Party, given the virulent racism of Teddy Roosevelt. [/QUOTE]Racism can be found worldwide it is not limited to the USA, IMHO there are very high levels of racism in some parts of Asia. I disagree with you about the Democratic and Republican parties, granted they have evolved but they are still the same parties. However it was WT 69 that first brought up the history of the parties.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;443009]
If you check your history about the southern states they were mostly Democrats, but, their beliefs were Republican. Servitude was okay.[/QUOTE]Where does he come up with this crap?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;443022]I don't really think the US has reached the point of no racism nor will it ever. But, I think we've gotten to a tipping point where for every racism there is an equal an opposite racism. So the fulcrum does not need to be moved any more in relation to the lever, or the seesaw is balanced, or something like that. Some might argue that "racism" is nothing more than protective xenophobia.[/QUOTE]I can't say that I disagree with you here, but go tell it to those that cry racism ever time someone disagrees with Obama.
[QUOTE=SpiritRider;443021]Sorry, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free a single slave. I was a pure publicity stunt. It freed slaves ONLY in states that were in rebellion, where the union had no jurisdiction. In other words, entirely backwards if the intent was to free slaves. It didn't free slaves that were in union states where he actually had the ability to do so.[/QUOTE]You are correct it was the 13th Amendment that ended slavery nationwide, or in the Union if you prefer.