American Politics during the Bush Presidency

Dodger Bulldog,

I did not threaten to call Jackson about Sid in my post, I made a suggestion as to how Jackson [u][b]might[/u][/b] view his actions, and [u][b]you might[/u][/b] want read his other post again.

Also in the quotes you posted I see Jackson’s name one time not several times, and even then it was being given to you as an option, not a threat. (Sorry you took it that way) This is not the first time you have misread or misinterpreted a post perhaps you should start reading all post more than once before you give knee jerk reactions.

Imho when someone post on both sides of an issue and doesn’t take a stand, and then admits he just wanted to see the right and the left “duking it out” that's not freedom of thought and expression because it’s not his opinion and he doesn't support it; it’s just plain old “shit stirring”, even if [b]you [/b] happen to find the smell of this particular shit “refreshing ”

I didn ’t see you stand up for Sid when he posted “Dick Morris on Obama ” several guys jumped his ass, did I miss something? Why didn ’t you defend him when they attacked him and Fox News? Could it be because the guys attacking him are on your side of the fence? Surely that wouldn ’t be the case because you find it “refreshing that he actually listened to both sides ”…. Right. Does that include Fox News?

[Quote] Jackson reads these threads. I doubt if he needs anyone else's help policing them. [/quote]I wonder why he has that little link on the lower left side of all post that says “Report Post to Moderator ”, did you misread that too?

[QUOTE=Joe Vato]Getting shot down and taken prisoner does not help to make you more qualified for the presidency.[/QUOTE]You are correct, but McCain's conduct [I]AFTER[/i] he was shot down demonstrates to me that he is both mentally tough and emotionally disciplined, and these are the traits I want in a Commander in Chief.

[QUOTE=Sidney]Bad Economy May Hurt Obama.

Thursday, August 7, 2008 10:07 AM.

By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann Article.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.[/QUOTE]This new threat of Russia invading Georgia also bodes well for McCain's chances, as national security will re enter the american minds.

[QUOTE=Jackson]You are correct, but McCain's conduct [I]AFTER[/i] he was shot down demonstrates to me that he is both mentally tough and emotionally disciplined, and these are the traits I want in a Commander in Chief.[/QUOTE]I would agree and remind you that another American Hero and former President had a PT boat shot out from under him;

[quote]It is arguably the most famous small-craft engagement in naval history, and it was an unmitigated disaster. At a later date, when asked to explain how he had come to be a hero, one of the young commanders involved, by then an aspiring politician, replied laconically, "It was involuntary. They sank my boat."[/quote]It was his actions after PT109 was sunk that really made Kennedy a Hero.

Just shows you how much the world has changed, or perhaps how desperate some have become, but I don't think anybody ever questioned JFK ’s Hero status.

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Just shows you how much the world has changed, or perhaps how desperate some have become, but I don 't think anybody ever questioned JFK 's Hero status.[/QUOTE]His hero status would have been questioned if he had run for president in 2000.:) Course he would have been pretty old by then.

[QUOTE=Punter 127]I didn 't see you stand up for Sid when he posted "Dick Morris on Obama " several guys jumped his ass, did I miss something? Why didn 't you defend him when they attacked him and Fox News? Could it be because the guys attacking him are on your side of the fence?[/QUOTE]You could not have possibly missed the point more.

I could care less when people disagree with each other. The whole purpose of a thread on politics is to air out different views.

What I object to is someone appointing himself as the political morality police and working to have the posts of others censored from the thread.

Can't you understand that point? I don't know how to make it more clear.

"Several guys" did not jump Sidney's ass. ONE guy asked him to quit posting "ridiculous anti-Obama propaganda." No one tried to threaten him off the boards, like you did. So there you go again!

I can deal with differences of opinion. But what really irks is that it seems to be endemic among so many sanctimonious conservatives that they actually believe that they are morally superior, and are therefore are justified in telling others what one is allowed to do or say.

Thankfully, not all conservatives act that way!

The great William F. Buckley comes to mind. So does Barry Goldwater. Both showed respect for those who disagreed with them and represented the conservative viewpoint with class.

You keep bringing up Jackson (three times now) I haven't seen him take up your cause to censor anyone's views. He's certainly a conservative, but he seems to be able to handle the back-and-forth of different opinions just fine.

Do you really think he put that "Report Post To Moderator" button there in order to squash any difference of opinion? Wow. That's rich![QUOTE=Punter 127]Surely that wouldn 't be the case because you find it "refreshing that he actually listened to both sides ". Right. Does that include Fox News?[/QUOTE]I do make a point to listen to Fox News from time to time, as evidenced by the fact that I quoted it here.

Usually it just makes me laugh out how they feckless their attacks are. Such as in my favorite expose, "Is Obama Too Skinny to Be President?"

But every once in a while someone there says something worth consideration.

Listen to the other side without feeling defensive and unleashing the attack dogs? Hmmmmm.

On second thought, you would probably best not to even consider it.

It does not seem possible to have a reasonable and respectful dialogue with you. Jackson also provided us with an ignore list. You are now officially on mine.

DB

[QUOTE=Doggboy]His hero status would have been questioned if he had run for president in 2000.:) Course he would have been pretty old by then.[/QUOTE] You're probably right Dogg, I'd like to think that wouldn't be the case, but the world has changed.

I think you ’re the one that missed the point, I haven't ask for anyone to be censored, I made a simple comment about Sid ’s actions and you went off on and continue on a tirade, about that statement and about me, you completely ignored the rest of the post and my explanation of the statement. I think you ’re really trying to make mountains out of mole hills, in order to attack me personally, but that ’s ok I ’ve got thick skin.

[quote=Dodger Bulldog]It does not seem possible to have a reasonable and respectful dialogue with you.[/QUOTE]I would echo those feelings about you and I can ’t think of anyplace I ’d rather be than on Dodger Bulldog ’s ignore list! (Ok possibly one or two places)

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog][Jackson] is certainly a conservative, but he seems to be able to handle the back-and-forth of different opinions just fine.[/QUOTE]Yes, but I do find myself shaking my head a lot.

I would catch a bullet in the groin for Obama.

That is how much I despise Joe Biden.

I live in Illinois.

Geraldine Feraro (D) said it best.

"If this guy was not black he would not be here."

It is a shame that he is the first black Presidential canidate.

He is not qualified and without the help of the press he would have never made it. I think with the selection of Biden he has shown his true colors.