2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424112]Whether I am ignorant or not about the business world is totally inconsequential to this discussion of the upcoming election; I am not running for any office, however Romney IS running for office and he is clearly hiding something messy in those 23 years of tax returns he has yet to fork over to be analyzed. He is probably concealing the same sort of shifty tax avoidance schemes, exotic offshore holdings, and USD shorts that all Wall Street Sharks utilize. The vast majority of Americans do not trust the Wall Street Sharks who through their absolutely reckless and greedy riverboat gambling nearly sank (and may yet sink) the entire financial world. Americans are still mad that the Wall Street Sharks gambled, lost, and then got bailed out 100 cents on the dollar thanks to sweetheart deals between current and former Wall Street Sharks in and out of government. The key here for Obama is to paint Romney as one of these such Wall Street Sharks and once these tax returns are released it will be like Christmas, Easter, New Year's Eve and Barack's birthday all rolled into one for the Obama campaign.[/QUOTE]Glad to see you are now over the whole "when Romney left Bain smoke screen". Glad my lecture served to educate you. So now we're back to speculating about tax returns. IALOTFLMAO! These type of speculative rantings only ineterest the wild-ass liberal, occupy wallstreest, I hate america, types like yourself. Republicans, and most importantly most independents don't give a damn about this discussion. IT's ALL ABOUT JOBS AND THE ECONOMY DUDE! Nothing that Obomantion, his handlers or foolish liberal types like you can say will change that. Sadly today, the liberal party has just become so extreme that they fail to see whats going on around them. These days liberals like you and your kind are just "whistling past the cemetary". Tick Tick Tick! Buy your crying towel now SnakeBoy, you're really going to need it in novemeber. Happy Mongering All. Toymann

[QUOTE=Dccpa; 424118]Edited to remove facts already covered by Toymann.

If there really was anything to this issue, BO would have the SEC all over MR's butt. The fact that nothing is going on with the SEC should tell you that there is nothing really there.

More interesting to me is why no one seems to be talking about BO protecting Corzine who took down MF Global. MF Global hired Attorney General Holder's close friend Reid Weingarten to defend Edith Obrien. Edith Obrien is the MF Global employee who can bury Corzine. So now you have the circle jerk defense for the lack of prosecution of Corzine and other MF Global executives.

We cannot prosecute Corzine for a lack of evidence. But we cannot get the evidence because the Justice Department refuses to give Obrien immunity from prosecution. Keep in mind that one of Obrien's emails regarding the illegal money transfers states that it was per JC's specific instructions. So Corzine, who is busy doing fundraiser's for BO, gets off from prosecution because the Justice Department refuses to provide immunity to an underling.

[url]http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-10/pfg-falls-return-mf-global-eric-holder-connection-and-how-keep-investigation-[/url][/QUOTE]Never in any of these posts have I suggested that anything that would be found in Mitt Romney's undisclosed tax returns is illegal. What I have been suggesting is that what will be revealed will be embarrassing and damaging to the Romney campaign. Sophisticated tax avoidance schemes (resulting in a 14% effective tax rate) , offshore accounts at notorious tax havens, and hedges / shorts against the USD will not be easily explained to the manager at Jiffy Lube in Ohio who pays out 20% of his gross in come in taxes or a teacher in florida paying out similar amounts.

[QUOTE=Toymann;424119]Glad to see you are now over the whole "when Romney left Bain smoke screen". Glad my lecture served to educate you. So now we're back to speculating about tax returns. IALOTFLMAO! These type of speculative rantings only ineterest the wild-ass liberal, occupy wallstreest, I hate america, types like yourself. Republicans, and most importantly most independents don't give a damn about this discussion. IT's ALL ABOUT JOBS AND THE ECONOMY DUDE! Nothing that Obomantion, his handlers or foolish liberal types like you can say will change that. Sadly today, the liberal party has just become so extreme that they fail to see whats going on around them. These days liberals like you and your kind are just "whistling past the cemetary". Tick Tick Tick! Buy your crying towel now SnakeBoy, you're really going to need it in novemeber. Happy Mongering All. Toymann[/QUOTE]It's all about jobs you say, interesting, as during the time that Romney was STILL the CEO, President, Chairman, and Sole Shareholder of Bain HIS firm was involved in bankrupting / liquidity companies for profit (and naturally firing all the employees) and consulting other firms on how to more efficiently outsource jobs to China and Mexico. The legal paperwork filed with the SEC says Romney was still LEGALLY at the helm at Bain during the period this sort of soulless corporate raiding was going on- that's the bottom line. I'm sure the unemployed factory worker in Pennsylvania is going to be thrilled to vote for a guy who specializes in laying people just like him off and keeps his money offshore.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424121]It's all about jobs you say, interesting, as during the time that Romney was STILL the CEO, President, Chairman, and Sole Shareholder of Bain HIS firm was involved in bankrupting / liquidity companies for profit (and naturally firing all the employees) and consulting other firms on how to more efficiently outsource jobs to China and Mexico. The legal paperwork filed with the SEC says Romney was still LEGALLY at the helm at Bain during the period this sort of soulless corporate raiding was going on- that's the bottom line. I'm sure the unemployed factory worker in Pennsylvania is going to be thrilled to vote for a guy who specializes in laying people just like him off and keeps his money offshore.[/QUOTE]Snake, I am not a fan of Republicans or Democrats. As I stated, my vote for MR is based upon the fact that he will delay the coming inevitable economic collapse years longer than BO.

My question to you is that you are saying that MR is good at tax avoidance and MR is good at creating value for shareholders. MR was effective as Governor of MA and he definitely turned around the Winter Olympics. So, MR has been shown to be very good at the jobs he has held. Isn't the very attribute you are condeming him for, effectiveness, the best reason to vote for him. MR is good at what he does.

BO's skill is in getting money from the government. Now BO is the government and he is still trying to get money out of the government. Problem is the government doesn't have any money and won't until a debt default or a currency collapse.

BO has had divided government with Congress and MR had democrats in MA. Democrats should retain the Senate and Republicans should retain the House. Do you think BO or MR would be more effective with a divided government? Look at their track records.

Obama is rapidly evolving from a likeable simpleton into a simpleton who is an a**hole.

Rush, Rush, Rush.

The Real Racist One.

What he said today, Incredible.

He had admitted that he was ON DRUGS in the past.

Come on Republicans Tell US What his and New Drug is?

Give It Up Toymann?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 424133]Rush, Rush, Rush.

The Real Racist One.

What he said today, Incredible.

He had admitted that he was ON DRUGS in the past.

Come on Republicans Tell US What his and New Drug is?

Give It Up Toymann?[/QUOTE]I didn't know that Rush Limbaugh was running for president.

If he's not, then what the fuck does this have to do with the title of this thread "2012 Elections in the USA"?

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson; 424136]I didn't know that Rush Limbaugh was running for president.

If he's not, then what the fuck does this have to do with the title of this thread "2012 Elections in the USA"?

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Like any of Wt69's posts have made any sense. Kinda feel sorry for him. Uninformed and ignornant is no way to go through life WT69. Don't jump off the golden gate bridge in novemeber dude! Your union pension, social security and food stamps will at least keep you alive, for a while anyway. Your anger at america and republicans in general is just displaced anxiety related to your past union handlers. I am sure your ex-union bosses visit BA often and are living the good life. You'll never admit it but in your heart of hearts you know I am right. Monger on WT69 (if you can afford too). Toymann

ps. I grew up in a socialist country dude. I get it, have lived it, and have the T-shirt. At your age you really should have figured it out by now.. Stop howling at the moon old man, it is not very becoming!

[QUOTE=Toymann; 424137]Like any of Wt69's posts have made any sense. Kinda feel sorry for him. Uninformed and ignornant is no way to go through life WT69. Don't jump off the golden gate bridge in novemeber dude! Your union pension, social security and food stamps will at least keep you alive, for a while anyway. Your anger at america and republicans in general is just displaced anxiety related to your past union handlers. I am sure your ex-union bosses visit BA often and are living the good life. You'll never admit it but in your heart of hearts you know I am right. Monger on WT69 (if you can afford too). Toymann.

Ps. I grew up in a socialist country dude. I get it, have lived it, and have the T-shirt. At your age you really should have figured it out by now. Stop howling at the moon old man, it is not very becoming![/QUOTE]Jackson-

Is this the thread discussing the 2012 Election, or Toymann's personal thread for launching crude and unnecessary personal attacks against WorldTravel69 and others? Toymann obviously knows WT69 personally to be making the specific comments about WT69's personal financial situation and then taunting him about it. I am pretty sure the TOS of this site do not allow for personal attacks.

Toymann-

Back to the subject of this thread and learn to spell correctly while you are at it. Are you the Dan Quayle of this website?

[quote=Obama]If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.[/quote]In the past we were ask 'Are you better off than you were four years ago? '

This year Romney should ask 'can the country survive four more years of Obama? '

For Obama to claim that businesses owe their success to the government because the government built roads and infrastructure emphasizes Obama's ignorance of the economy. The government did not build those roads and infrastructure. The private sector built those roads and infrastructure with the taxes they paid. Obama has crashed through the imbecile category into the idiot category. For Obama we need a new classification for what is below idiot.

Raving Lunatic in Chief is my suggestion. Those comments last week in virginia were classic and unplugged. Sometimes even a seasoned liar lets his true feeling be known.

Ps. Newbie Snakeboy, this is the political thread dude. If ya can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. It's all in fun anyway. Whats your problem? Is this thread not politically correct enough and offends your sensibilities? IALOTFLMAO. Crawl back under your wild-ass liberal rock. Based on your posts you are just a liberal political shill anyway. LMAO. Toymann.

Pps. Jackson. Jackson. Toymann is being bad. Waah waah. Too funny!

Because he was making Racist remarks about Obama.

Plus Rush is the leader of the Republican Party. What he says goes.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 424136]I didn't know that Rush Limbaugh was running for president.

If he's not, then what the fuck does this have to do with the title of this thread "2012 Elections in the USA"?

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;424152]Plus Rush is the leader of the Republican Party. What he says goes.[/QUOTE]Your position as the village idiot is already set in stone dude. Please stop with the crazy bizarre statements. Both parties have extremes but all groups follow the normal distribution with regard to membership. Ever heard of a blue dog dude? You'd hate those guys, kick them out of YOUR party and claim they are republicans in liberal clothing. Better to be thought a fool and remain silent fella. For a guy that bitched about this thread for years, not sure why you post here. Your comments are even more extreme than Esten. LMAO! Give Nancy a kiss for me. Happy Mongering All. Toymann

When it comes to leg work, checking out the privados and letting all of us know what the scoop is. For that we are all grateful. However, I believe that in this case, you are mistaken. I believe Rush posts the entire, unedited transcript from each show on his website, so it shouldn't be too hard to provide a few quotes to make your point.

I like to consider myself a decent reader of the tea leaves, my 2008-2009 posts on this very subject might be worth reviewing but, I'll save you the work. The only racist in this presidential cycle is Obama, who also happens to be a Marxist. While debating social-democrat policies, over cafe and demi-lunas is great fun, in practice, Marxism and the command economy have never, in the history of mankind, worked. However, during the last 100 years or so, followers of such philosophies have murdered over 110 million, of their own people, trying to make those flawed policies work. During that same period, racism killed significantly fewer. If over 100 million murders isn't enough to convince some people that Marxism and communist theory are fallacies, nothing will.

Monger on.