2004 Reports - Edited

The Rio vs. Buenos Aires comparison...

I have read numerous comments on this board about how Rio is superior to Buenos Aires if one is strictly interested in mongering. While I do not include myself in this category, I will say that I have gotten the distinct impression that Rio and urban Brazil in general have a much greater HIV problem. I can honestly say that this was a major deciding factor in my choosing to visit BA instead. Any comments regarding the accuracy of this conclusion would be appreciated. It is also a reason I have not returned to Thailand after my visit in the late 1980s...

Help. I want a really hot Blonde. Who has any recomendations?

A past road not travelled:

Barbarella- SensuaBaires.com $150P/hr-Not!

I called her number and the person on the other end appeared to be a calling service. Made arrangements for an encounter at her casa. It turned out to be out of the way, "Canin" (Scalabrini Ortiz) y Costa Rica" in the day time. Not an attractive area.

The casa was some one else´s apartment and Barbarella wasn´t there, though She showed up 10 minutes later. Not as good as her pictures, but the same person. The short of it, between the less than appealing looking and the too business like approach to negotiations I decided to leave.

Re the Chica pricing discussion: Can´t we all get along? Some people want the high priced spread 9-10´s for looks and others don´t feel the need to pay the premium for exceptionally beautiful women. To each his own. For those able to find and negotiate for 9-10´s at $150P or less, please share your contacts and your successful approach. We´d all, I´m sure like to have beautiful, hot chicas that do everything for a price we´re willing to pay and not have to ruin the market for those of us that are Dickheads.

LAGNAF

The ol'times

There was a time in the Argentine history that the country was one of the wealthiest in the World. It happened roughly between 1890 and 1930, a time when trade with the British Empire was at its zenith.

During that time, many mansions and palaces were imported stone by stone from Europe (in a fashion similar to that of Newport, RI). Traditional families had mansions, of which some remain (Palacio San Martin next to the Foreign Office, the Vatican Embassy at Alvear Ave, etc), and the city was one of the earliest to build a subway system. The city was an immigration beacon by then, even though living conditions for the poor were comparable to those at poor countries.

That grandeur helped to build a charm as well as a sense of superiority, so much critisized by fellow Latin American neghbors because of our disdain against dark-skinned, uneducated people. However, this aspect is almost limited to Capital Federal (people at the innerland don't show these traits that much) and has been tempered throughout the last decades.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Mr Jetsetter,

Please don't start with this one now. Already the board is cluttered with the "price" issue. Don't bring HIV into this.

Bandy

Do you guys think $500 USD is too much to pay for a night with an underaged HIV-positive transvestite???? ROFL

Latina Addict,

I pulled my remarks about a budget. I live on a strict budget that's why I only allow myself 4 trips a year for mongering. I have no idea how Dickhead can afford all the screwing he does, even at those prices. Its remarkable.

Starfe

Just to reiterate...i was in black several times over the last 3 weeks. i speak fluent castellano...(spanish) and never did i get a chica to leave there for less than 300 pesos.. in fact i took out 2 hotties for 400 pesos. just could not let them slip away. there were plenty of guys, asians mostly and some americans paying 200 us..i know because i heard the conversations.

Madahos was a little different. more 150 peso girls, but for my tastes, black had better looking girls. pulled out a Playboy bunny from South America for 300 pesos that i saw several times.

whether you pay 150 or 300...there is someone for everyone. just relax and have a good time.

rb1,

You are absolutely correct. 100%. Most of the girls will NOT leave for 300 pesos. That is the rock bottom price as you mentioned. Most want more than that but I think you can get them down to 300 pesos or $100 US if you speak excellent Spanish and they aren't totally turned off in leaving with you in the first place. Also, keep in mind you can get them during the day easily for 300 pesos. The other day I went in there and just had one drink. I talked to a girl I know from an earlier trip. I gave her my business card to give to this hot Brasilera I was lusting after. The girl wasn't working that night and I didn't know if I'd hear from the girl but she emailed me from my email on my business card. She emailed me her cellphone number and I talked to her. She asked for $150 US but easily got it down to $100 for a few hours during the day. I haven't seen her yet because I've exceeded my "entertainment budget" for the month and have to wait till after the 15th of the month when my new budget will start all over.

Again, this quality of girl I have never seen in Hook, Cattos, Ness, Affaire or a number of the other clubs I have been to. I'm not saying the quality doesn't exist there. Only that I have never seen it on the many excursions I have made to these other places.

You are absolutely right about the make up of Black. There are plenty of guys in there on business. They are staying at the Alvear Palace across the street. They are expensing everything anyway so they could care less what they are paying. Black is another world and you can't compare the pricing in there with other places. I think the quality has gone down over the years but they still have some stunners like you say. They have several real life models (take it from me...I've seen the photos). They also have some South American Playboy bunnies as you mentioned. I've met 2 in the past 2 years. Definitely more expensive there but so far...I haven't found Playboy playmate calibre girls in the cheaper clubs.

I agree. There is something for everyone. From 25 peso 56 year old streetwalkers (that some guys like to pick up) to 400 peso girls at Black. What a guy decides to pay is meaningless as long as he is having fun. I've always said that. I don't think anyone should be bashing another over how much they are paying. Enjoy life and have fun!

Had another one of my ugly hags last night. This gal is so ugly that only about ten other WSG members are doing her and everyone else who sees her wants to. But anyway I bought her zero drinks and took her back to my place for BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and 3 pops' worth of sex. She came 5 times, though, so she owes me 100 pesos. I like her so much maybe I will even anal her some day like she wants me to. But she only stayed about 14 hours for 120 pesos so I probably got ripped off. She made the bed but lately she seems conveniently to want to check her e-mail after breakfast so she is slacking off on the dishes. We'll have to have a chat about that.

BTW she told me that [b]any[/b] of the women in Exedra will go for 50 pesos on a slow night or at 5 AM.

5 times,

That's great. I mean it when I say you are amazing. From my take you are averaging a girl a day. Between you and the girls were looking at 8 cum shots a day.
Well done

Starfe

Dickhead is an entertaining person. I think his reports have given me lots of ideas, and shows that just because you pay less, doesn't mean you get less. I agree with about 80% of his ideals, but think his liver is going to give out sooner, rather than later, with his prodigous intake of alcohol.

He would sacrificed money to be close to the women he loves. That takes a lot of balls to do.

Nah I am only averaging about 3 girls a week but this week I got kind of lucky. One of the things I look for in repeats is that they have to like to come. OK here are [b]all[/b] the things I look for in repeats:

MUST HAVE:
BBBJ although CIM not necessary
DATY
DFK
Orgasmic
Must want to get fucked more than once

VERY IMPORTANT:
Non-smoker
Neat (i.e. no condoms on the floor, no mess in bathroom)

BONUS POINTS
Talks dirty
Likes my cooking
Makes bed, does dishes (if I cook, I mean)
Shared showers
Drinks beer
Likes vibrators

Current favorita "La Yegua" aka "Jungle Girl" has all of the above. The only thing that drives me nuts is she puts the used condom wrappers back in the drawer where I keep the condoms so I keep pulling out empty wrappers. I can overlook that, though.

And thanks for your concern JC but my liver is fine and I have been drinking like this for 30 years. I don't hit the hard stuff too much any more, though. There are 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case and I think there is a message there.

Oh yeah and I have the same job here as I had in the US for four years so I am not really sacrificing any money. I had opportunities to make additional money in the US, that I don't have now, but I wasn't really doing it = [b]lazy[/b]. So it did not take as much guts as it did for say Saint to quit his job and move down here. He gets the brass balls award, not me.

Good God!,

Some of you guys are so impressive I´m intimidated to write anything of my small experience here.

But: stopped by Orleans today at about 2. There were three 7´s or so. 4 or 5 others. I waved one over to the table. "Rossi". From Paraguay. Beautiful brunette, sorta spanish looking. She was one of the friendliest, coolest women I have met. Got her cell#. A definite for tomorrow evening if I can catch her.

We then went to one of the apartments. 1730something. Near the Galleria shopping mall. Got the "parade" of 4. I would have loved to do any one of them. I let my buddy have the 8.5 brown beauty. I took the 8.0 blond. She was amazing. Covered oral, but great full, firm body. Her bod reminded me of a braziliera, but she was born right here. Totally enthusiastic. I cannot believe I had that experience for $27US. I´m in heaven.

BTW, there is a wonderful exhibit at the museum of modern art, if anyone cares. And more scheduled. It´s a top class museum. The whole art scene is pretty good here. Not quite as hot as Sao Paulo, though. Just another thing to do. I love it here.

The "disdain" Andres refers to towards "brown" skinned people has been an interesting thing to figure out here.

Hardly uneducated, being a surgical specialist, and fairly fluent in 2 additional languages, I do notice that I do not get the warm smiles I get in Brazil. Even in the south of Brazil, I get a much "warmer" feel. You can notice the "supremacy" thing in many subtle ways if you,re tuned into it. In the theater, on tele., etc.

But, I must say, it doesn´t seem to interfere with mongering in the least. And as a matter of fact, in many ways, it is less of a negative vibe than I get even in my home town of San Francisco.

I find "working girls" tend to be pretty non-judgemental by nature anyway. And cash has a very mellowing effect throughout South America. I mostly notice that if you are a fairly nice, respectable guy, you are very welcome.

My friend, the highly regarded Jessica of 1707 has asked me to inform my friends that she and Celeste, also of 1707 have decided to set up their own operation in an apartment in Sarmiento.

The address is: Sarmiento 1587, Sarmiento and Montevideo.
Second floor, apartment 10. Telephone 4374-1272.

Photos are available on Sensualbaires.com. Jessica now goes by Amanda and Celeste as Cele.

Pricing is similar to 1707. 60 p. for 30 minutes, 80 p for 45,
100 for an hour. Take out is available for an hour at the same price plus taxi.

I do not know Celeste, but have seen Amanda (Jessica) many times. She is a very sweet, focused sensualist whom I recommend without hesitation.

Stormy

Stormy,

Thanks for the update. Celeste is awsome! Very GFE and seems to really enjoy having a good time. I WILL see her again on my next BA adventure.

Madaho´s new policy alert:

I´m returning from Madahos empty-handed. My information was that 200 was a reasonable price. After spending some time with a moderately hot chica she informed me that 300 was the bare minimum to start. I would have gone along with this if I had not been carrying such emphatic requests to not pay over 200 from the Forum. As a matter of fact, I even took it for the team and left, giving the Forum the benefit of the doubt. She gave me an extensive explanation about why 300 was reasonable for the quality of this place. I´ve recently come to know that there is actually a new policy at Madahos. The chicas have to go for 300 and prove this to the management. I will happily accept this now that I know this is the policy, and I´ll be back tomorrow with 300 pesos in hand, but I´m gonna be a picky mf. By the way, the chica drinks are all 50 pesos, even orange juice.

Bambino,

Give them your number and invite them to lunch the next day, then go play. It will probably be a much better experience and might even cost a bit less.

Moondog

I left Madahos Friday with a chica for $250ar and 1 drink which I dont remember how much. I could have bargained it a little more but she was nice so I just went with it.

Next door at Solid Golds i paid $300ar, Shampoo $300ar, and Black $300 ar.

Hook and Cattos or Cutty Sark $200ar.

I'm still here and the prices are the same.

Bambino wrote

[quote]She gave me an extensive explanation about why 300 was reasonable for the quality of this place. I´ve recently come to know that there is actually a new policy at Madahos. The chicas have to go for 300 and prove this to the management.[/quote]As I understand the law in Argentina while prostitution is legal, running an escort service is not. I've had a few conversations with Danny (the manager of Black) about this. He is very firm about never talking about what a Chica may or may not charge in order to not be in violation of this law. I suspect the Chica was feeding you a line in order to convinvce you to step up to her desired price (alls fair in love and war). As I have posted before, it's your money and if you felt she was worth it and can afford it make the best deal you can. If you have to pay the 300 make it worth it to you by negotiating extra time or better service. You only go around once Bambino don't feel the need to justify to the rest of us how you spend your hard earned money.

To the really Sr members: Andres, Roxanna, Capt. Dave, Saint, Dickhead or perhaps El Jeffe the silent one himself, do you guys know if my understanding of the law there is correct? I don't want to be giving out false information

I'm back in two weeks!

DR

[blue]Recent inside information: The owner of Madahos has recently instituted a minimum price policy as follows:

Tourists: $300ar or $100usd per hour.

Argentinos: $200ar per hour.

They are attempting to enforce this by requiring the girls to "show them the money" when they return from a date. Of course, there's nothing preventing the girls from showing the required amount that includes their own cash.

In addition, the chica drink prices have increased to $50.00AR minimum, and they appear to have done away with the special "Madahos" drinks that were being offered at a higher price.

Finally, they have reduced the maximum number of drinks that you need to by for the girl to leave for the night from 3 drinks to 2, which means now that you can pay $100ar for two drinks and the chica doesn't have to return (of course wether or not you do a TLN is another issue)

Jackson[/blue]

Starfe,

Thanks for the feedback.

I just wasn´t prepared. There were many well worth 300P. I had just been pumped up so much to feel like I would be thought a foolish American to agree to such a price. And by 2:00 I was getting rather tired. I´m gonna give it another try tonight.

Thanks.

And I might just do that "get the number" thing.

Starfe

I HATE to get too involved in this somewhat childish discussion about overpaying chicas, but I do want to thank Bambino for "taking one for the team" - that is EXACTLY what you did.
Those of us who live here (and, BTW, provide an endless source of updated info on the scene here, as well as guidance when you are down here visiting) have to deal with the inflated prices you who are only here for a short time don't feel quite as hard. To you its just 30U$S dollars more, but to me it's thousands (or even 10's of thousands) of dollars over a year.
Once all the chicas are expecting 300 pesos, the ones we want will want 400 or 500, and the cycle will continue.

I live here because I like the lifestyle, and at least for now, I can afford my hobby.
It's possible that your silver spoon has kept you from ever working for tips, but I have, I NEVER thought anyone was a "great guy" because he overtipped/overpaid me - I thought he was an a**hole, (even though I took the money).

So, THANKS Bambino - I really appeciate your "taking one for the team" and not falling for the line that the management at Madahos has "set" the price at $300 - that is BS, by the way.

I will be back in BsAs by the 20th, and I will be happy to take you around and show you why you shouldn't (and don't have to) pay that kind of price for some 1st class company!

I will not respond to flames over this post - there is no point. I would just like to mention that if you enjoy the information we-who-live-here make available, try to help us out by not pissing in our pool!

David

Capt Dave,

Out of respect for you're judgment the post has been deleted. In the future I will try to muzzle my comments about payments.

Regards,

Starfe

Bambino:

Disdain against brown skinned people is rooted on income/social class. I guess that a dark-skinned man wearing stylish nice clothes and having good manners would elicit the same response as an affluent white-skinned one.

Andres

Bambino,

I was in Madahos last Saturday night and met a chica named Laura, from Paraguay. Her price was 200 AR, right up front, no haggling. She wasn't the very tippy-top in terms of the quality there that night, but she did very nicely, thank you. ;-)

Guillermo

Here is an estimate of a budget for a 14 night stay in Buenos Aires:


Air fare $1000 25%
Chicas $1400 34% (14 chicas at $100 each)
Hotel $980 24% (14 nights at $70)
Food $700 17% (14 days at $50)

TOTAL $4080

In other words, sourcing your chicas from Madahos will take up a third of your budget.

Of course, you can spend more or less on each of these expense categories but as I said this is an estimate.

Hey Stormy,

Thanks for the info. As one who has enjoyed the company of Jessica of 1707, I need this info for my return in January. Amanda (Jessica) is a great partner in bed. Also, Cele looks extremely nice as well and will have to try her, also.

Thanks for the update.

Stowe

Would it be possible for some of you B.A. full-timers to open a bar, and ensure good prices, and service? You would have a ready-made loyal clientele, namely US!

Chuponalgas,

I have been approached several times by various guys/investors about my thoughts about opening a club of our own here. It sounds like a good idea in principle but it's not so easy. First of all, note that most of these clubs (if not all of them) have to bribe the police with payoffs, offering girls or other "ugly" business. We have fun going to these places but most of us don't look at the dirty side of the business.

Many people forget that prostitution is illegal in Buenos Aires. The fact that there are so many clubs/apartments/sexually oriented places helps us forget this fact sometimes. The thing I would be most worried about is the other owners of the club or corrupt cops getting pissed that my club was so successful and pulling girls and customers away from the other clubs. Remember that this is South America. I wouldn't put it past anyone to just torch your place if they didn't like the competition.

In order for this to work, as I suggested to another WSG member, I would think you need to partner with an established owner of another club already doing business in Buenos Aires. They would know the routine of running a club, have the pay off system down, etc.

I'm sure that many have thought about doing such a business but in the end they probably didn't for a number of different reasons including the ones I mentioned above. I still think it might be possible if you do a TON of planning, research, have the right contacts and take time to set it up right.

Good luck.

Saint

P.S. I agree with everyone to just drop the whole price issue. As I always mention, there is something for everyone here. Contrary to popular belief I don't pull most girls from Madahos and Black now that I live here. There is still a number of venues for girls that charge less (apartments, other clubs, etc.) I just happen to be more attracted to the girls from those clubs. Anyway, I don't believe in that minimum price BS at Madahos and I was just there last week. You can still pull out girls for 200 pesos. Have fun all.

Oh well. It sounded good for a few minutes, LOL.
How about a section of WSG-certified independents with their cell phone numbers, photos, and prices?

Anyone know anything about Boycott? Could anyone recomend a hot blonde for like 150 peso max area?

Chuponalgas:

There already is [url=http://www.argentinaprivate.com/members/chica-gallery.html][red] such a[/red][/url] "section".

Hey ya'll

That is EXACTLY what Jackson and I want to develop at the mansion. A place where in-town and resident mongers can go to chill and hang out, meet some ladies who are not "club girls", and have some quality company at a fair price without having to "negotiate".

Now that summer is coming the pool will be ready, ping-pong and pool tables await, and the bar will be stocked.

I will be back in town next week, and the interviews with new chicas will begin again. This round I will be focusing on english-speaking girls for all you Castillano-challenged guys.

You all can help by planning on coming by and making it worthwhile for the ladies to come and "hang out" here.

David

BA - Day 1 Report.

Got in on Colombus day, a gloomy and rainy day. Signed the yada yada papers and got set up on the apartment. Decided to check out Affaire... in Recoleta.

Got there around 12:30, tried to look for Guliermo as Jackson suggested, looked like he may have stepped out to take a pee. Had to pay 30 pesos to get in, later I saw Guermo and he said that I should have spoke to hiom before I got it and now he cannot do much once you paid the cash.

Anyway got a couple of beers and looked around. Got approached by few chics, nothing seemed interesting. Then I saw a girls walk in her name was Sylvia, typical Latina with a awsome ass and nice pair of tits. Decided to try her out.

Sadly she spoke Zero english, so finally had to get another girl to close the deal. The negotiation started with 200US$ for 2 hrs at which I just laugher. Then it was down to 100$ 2 hrs..... I said I would like to spend 100$ for the night including 90 pesos to take her out.

Finally she agreed for the night fo 300 pesos but I had to pay for 2 drinks. Anyway I said fine. Took her to the apartment and she was really GFE on the way home and and little shy in bed. But an awsome body.

She gave me an awsome BBBJ to start with and multipler positions on round 1 and I finally finished doggy. It was almost 1:30 a.m. then we tried for round 2 and I was too damn tired after the long flight to have round 2, so gave up half way.

Anyway we hit the sack, then after 2 hrs around 4 I heard a sound in the bathroom and she got back and did not lie back in bed and she said that she had to go........ fuck. What shit was that. I was pissed.

Anyway that was her decision, I told her look here you were here only 2 hrs so I will pay you only 150 pesos. She did not say anything just looked dumb and said sorry....

I paid her 150 and she left, moral of the story..... just do the fucken 1 hr forget the full night, most of the time there bitched just want the next customer.

Also Gulermo was trying to squeeze me for 20US$, I said dude here is 20 pesos... he was saying 20US$. If I have to pay his 20US$ why even bother his services I can just pay 30 pesos at the do get in and out which is much cheaper.........

I know my math, I arn´t dumb

It was a bloody gloomy and rainy day. Had to call Roxana and cancel the city tour as it was raining cats and dogs. Luckily Roxana said that she would positively line up one of the girls that I had send her mail on.

The appoitment was for 7:00 P.M and this girl Dayanne shows up. At the Apartment.... Cute face but Damn totally different from the girl I saw on the web site - wasn´t exactly a bait and switch but you know how there photos are all decked up.

Anyway I am horney as it has rained the whole day and I pay her 150 pesos plus 25 for cab and we are read for action. I ask her for as BBBJ and say says that she old does CBJ. So slips on the coldom and starts a CBJ. That turned me off. Also she had micro tits which are a total turn off for me.

No I decide that the oly way I am going to Salvage this experince is to do her in the ASS. At first she hesitates also she loves to ride me cow girl. Also this ***** is into rough sex. She is all over and wats me to squeeze her tits to the point of pain.

Finaly I tell here here is the Lube I got to do your ass. She agrees and lubes up her and and begins to ride again. This time I am getting somewhere. After I am almost there, I said stop and show her down and do her missionary to complete.

Then she took a break and quickly starts to give me a hand job. I point to here mouth and she now starts another CBJ, after I am ready I did a quick doggy on her and I am so damn beat, happy never the less.

She changes and I send her on her way and jump in the shower. Even though she is not the girl of my type, the session was enjoyable.

I do have some pics of her and will post when I get back to new york as I don´t have a way to upload the pics here.

I have another tonight so lets see how that goes....

Phish stated
[quote]Anyway we hit the sack, then after 2 hrs around 4 I heard a sound in the bathroom and she got back and did not lie back in bed and she said that she had to go[/quote]

Many times the girls do not have to leave for the next customer, but rather to get home to their kids and relieve the babysitter. Next time you want all night, ask what time they have to leave in the morning. then base your donation on that. If she is going to leave at 0400, then just short time with her. If she will stay until the next day to around noon or later, then that is a different story.

Best thing is just to have fun, accept and learn from any perceived loss, and move on.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

From a past trip to BA:

Agustina, second verse better than the first!

A second visit with Agustina, $150P/hr at her apartment on Uriburi, 1/2 block from Santa Fe. See [Correction] www.bairesgirls.com.ar for phone info.

A 3-hole date, lots of DFK and BBBJ, life could be worse! Lots of affection and fun between and after the two rounds.

All wrapped with a 95 cm chest.

Definitely recommended.

LAGNAF

"Anyone know anything about Boycott? Could anyone recomend a hot blonde for like 150 peso max area?"

Forget about Boycott (Marcelo T de Alvear between Carlos Pellegrini and Suipacha on the north side of the street). It is a rip off scam aka "whiskeria" that is to be avoided. For hot blondes read the forum. 90% of all blondes here will be fake though.

Lotsafun,

I could not find an "Agustina" on that website. Is the name and website correct?

Thanks,

Moondog