For those that excuse US and UK corruption scandals,
Here's a HUGE scandal that was swept under the carpet.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Yamamah[/url]
These are DIRECT quotes, no doctoring or " twisting ", just the same home grown corruption patriotic nationals seem to either condone or ignore in their home countries yet try to condemn in countries that don't share their political agenda.
On 1 December The Daily Telegraph ran a front page headline suggesting that Saudi Arabia had given the UK ten days to suspend the Serious Fraud Office investigation into BAE / Saudi Arabian transactions or they would take the deal to France "
On 14 December 2006, the Attorney General Lord Goldsmith announced that the investigation was being discontinued. The 15-strong team had been ordered to turn in their files two days before. The statement in the House of Lords read:
" The Director of the Serious Fraud Office has decided to discontinue the investigation into the affairs of BAE Systems plc as far as they relate to the Al Yamamah defence contract. This decision has been taken following representations that have been made both to the Attorney General and the Director concerning the need to safeguard national and international security. It has been necessary to balance the need to maintain the rule of law against the wider public interest. "
" On 26 June 2007 BAE announced that the United States Department of Justice had launched its own investigation into Al Yamamah. It specifically was looking into allegations that a US bank had been used to funnel payments to Prince Bandar. "
" In a newspaper interview, Robert Wardle, head of the Serious Fraud Office, acknowledged that the decision to terminate the investigation may have damaged "the reputation of the UK as a place which is determined to stamp out corruption. "
BBC lifts the lid on secret BAE slush fund
In October 2004, the BBC's Money Program broadcast an in-depth story, including allegations in interviews with Edward Cunningham and another former insider, about the way BAE Systems alleged to have paid bribes to Prince Turki bin Nasser and ran a secret £60 million slush fund in relation to the Al Yamamah deal.[24] Most of the money was alleged to have been spent through a front company called Robert Lee International Limited. The SFO was also investigating BAE's relationship with Travellers World Limited.[25] There also exists an internal five page report from 1996 detailing the fraud allegations.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3712770.stm[/url]
My Lords, with the leave of the House, I shall make a Statement which relates to the investigation by the Serious Fraud Office into BAE Systems plc concerning payments made in relation to the Al Yamamah programme with Saudi Arabia. This afternoon, the Serious Fraud Office has announced that it is discontinuing this investigation. Its statement says:
"The Director of the Serious Fraud Office has decided to discontinue the investigation into the affairs of BAe Systems plc as far as they relate to the Al Yamamah defence contract. This decision has been taken following representations that have been made both to the Attorney General and the Director concerning the need to safeguard national and international security. It has been necessary to balance the need to maintain the rule of law against the wider public interest. No weight has been given to commercial interests or to the national economic interest".
[url]http://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2006-12-14c.1711.2[/url] Lord Goldsmith (Attorney General, Law Officers' Department) Link to this | Hansard source
You aren't even a BAD joke, you are actually quite pathetic
Do you really think I give a shit what you think Sidney? You can think what you want, I at least contribute and serious contributing mongers know and respect this, you are a joke here, even your friends understand that all you do is come here and post pure politically motivated rants about your hate for Latin American political figures.
You are like a small child that puts his fingers in his ears to block out the truth, Am I supposed to take someone like that seriously? Be real, your political commentary is more of the same, about the only actual quotes you have ever provided is either the Miami Herald or the BA Herald, and nothing more, no factual anything.
And at the end of the day, when I post link after link of data detailing my " twisted " facts, you act like a bigger child and start name calling.
Why don't you take your ass back to the DR, or did the great neo liberal DR policies actually create something far worse than Argentina? You came back with your tail between your legs just like I said you would. Oh and BTW, I am still waiting for the price to go down below $50.
ROFFLMMFAO.
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PS, please continue
There goes the BBC twisting facts again, Saudi prince 'received arms cash
Thursday, 7 June 2007, 18:09 GMT 19:09 UK
A Saudi prince who negotiated a £40bn arms deal between Britain and Saudi Arabia received secret payments for over a decade, a BBC probe has found.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6728773.stm[/url]
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Sindy85, is that really the best you can do?
You seem to have a real problem with the connection between your mouth and your brain. You start offending people online then you accuse THEM of name calling, then you post an entire two paragraphs attacking me and then proceed to accuse ME of character assassination. Are you really THAT stupid or are you just pretending?
Then, after telling the ENTIRE forum how you were the victim of multiple home invasion attempts and your hooker girlfriend what threatened with a gun, and that is why you canceled your long term lease, then you tell us it's none of our business? Stop posting your lame DR stories on the forum you idiot.
And after all this you start telling me how you work for a living, who fucking cares, good for you, again, it's none of my business right? So stop making it such, and as far as myself, I have always worked for my money but this forum is neither the place nor the community with which to discuss such things with. PS, I hardly consider what you do for a living work, but then again, that is just my personal opinion.
And please explain to the ENTIRE forum how an entire BBC report on this HUGE corruption scandal that has been documented has anything to do with a loco idea? You are so full of shit it's not even funny, again, you are a pathetic old man, and the saddest part is, at your age you seem to know so little about so much, Dirk is a third of your age and he seems to know and understand things in a way your pre dementia has been ass never will. As far as I am concerned, I know enough to understand you are full of shit, go back to counting beans silly rabbit.
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Dirk, As far as Latin American politics, my main point for posting this was to simply punctuate the rampant hipocracy on this forum and in the world with regards to corruption. As you stated, Argentina is corrupt, it was corrupt BEFORE Kirchner and it will be corrupt after Kirchner, as the old saying goes, if you lie with pigs don't complain when you wake up dirty. In other words, if you want to be in politics, you have to be ready to play ball and the name of the game is graft bribery corruption and so on. So I don't see how this particular incident has anything to do with Argentine economy. And you can disagree and that is your right.
Exon? I thought you'de be busy pimping whores or doing SHIT for a living
[QUOTE=Exon123]BadBoy is getting dementia, he actually thinks that the $800,000 is no big deal and its going to blow over in the middle of a Presidential campain.
He also thinks if your pulled over and they find $800,000 in your car here in the US everything cool and they'll wave you right on threw.
I say "Hide and Watch" BadBoy your about to learn some of the facts of life.
And finally grow up and quit being so obsessive about things you know nothing about.
Exon[/QUOTE]Why don't you act your age Exon, all one hundred years of it. I think that this will not affect Kirchners presidential race as much as other do, period. It is being blown out of proportion by those who stand to benifit from it being blown out of proportion.
I said very clearly, If you are caught in the US with money and you can account for it legally, carrying 800k in itself is not a crime. You can try to twist things all you want but my words were posted in plain english.
You are the stupid ass that brought up your so called " drug dealing " friends. Now I don't need to watch anything since I already know how it will turn out. But you can " Hide all you want " But I don't think that will do you any good. And waste your time watching this political charade all you want, but if your choices are between hiding you degenerate pimping old ass or watching this I would suggest you focus on hiding.
I am sure pimping hookers isn't illegal in the US, but I guess that's why you come to Argentina, right?
AGAIN, miss me with that shit. You're old pimpin' ass needs to get off it allready I stopped talking to you like a day ago. Now, whose obsessing?
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I think Sidney Tec-9 said it best, so enough with your loco ideas
[QUOTE=Sidney]Concerning ''Links''--anyone can search and find support for any loco idea that he may savor. GOOD Sidney[/QUOTE] So I will leave it at that.
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[QUOTE=Exon123]Argentina requests arrest of Venezuelan money courier. Quoting court sources, Télam said that the judge rejected a request by Antonini Wilson to be exempted from possibly going to jail pending investigation. Antonini Wilson left for Uruguay soon after Argentine authorities seized the money from him after his arrival early last week and a prosecutor expressed suspicion that he may have left for Bolivia. He arrived while Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez was paying a visit to Argentina. The Venezuelan government said that it was "irregular" that employees from the Venezuelan state-run PDVSA oil company were on the flight that brought Antonini Wilson to Buenos Aires. Argentina has demanded a "gesture" from Venezuela in connection with the case and the vice-president of the Argentine branch of PDVSA Diego Uzcategui Matheus — who allegedly put Antonini Wilson on the charter flight — was fired as a consequence. Chávez is a close ally of President Néstor Kirchner. (Herald staff with Télam) Exon[/QUOTE] Oh wait maybe this data agrees with your overall premise so maybe we won't discard it outright just yet.;)
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Learn to put a sentence together and then talk to me about hitting nerves
[QUOTE=Exon123]I must have hit a sensitive nerve of BadBoy reading his last post. The truth hurts doesn't it. Exon[/QUOTE]Yeah, that nerve is called REASON, something you seem to have lost the capacity to do. I would probably blame it on the old age. So I can't really tell you to grow up can I? But you can try to act your age.
Go pimp some prostitutes or something? Or are they just " friends "?
Miss me with that shit,
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this guy is a walking cliche.
[QUOTE=Exon123]
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Exon[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Exon123]by the way I don't have any friends that deal drugs and don't ever accuse me of that again.
Exon[/QUOTE]Yes, by the sound of your pathetic plea, it really does. So go pimp some hookers or go do that " shit " you keep telling everyone you do for a living. Maybe you can get another chance at eyeballing 800K;)
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No one is mixing your name up with drugs except you
[QUOTE=Exon123]here's two cases I know of personally. Both guys had spotless criminal records, nothing more than minor traffic violations.
A Drug Dealer, again with a spotless record. He was never with in a mile of his Drugs. Always paid someone else to do his dirty work. Was driving down I-10 not all that far from the Mexican border. He's pulled over and they find $45,000 in cash in his car. He got 3 1/2 years with the Fed's. In both cases they "Rolled" for lighter sentences by the way.[/QUOTE]Did you forget YOU volunteered this information, effectively going off topic. Now maybe I misunderstood your intimate knowledge of this drug dealers work habits, schemes, prosecutions and other legal troubles, as you knowing this person as you stated " personally ". But I am sure you can see why. So if they aren't your friends, you must watch a hell of alot of CourtTV.
So give it a rest, or did I hit a nerve? ;)
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What a surprise, some negative propaganda\inuendos about Latin American leaders
[QUOTE=Sidney]Concerning ''Links''--anyone can search and find support for any loco idea that he may savor. You are the classic practitioner![/QUOTE]Is all I have to say.
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I find your spin quite amusing, only the links you find are true, RRRIGHT
[QUOTE=Sidney]Concerning ''Links''--anyone can search and find support for any loco idea that he may savor. You are the classic practitioner![/QUOTE]Is all I have to say.
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Again, this is pure unsubstantiated innuendo. But knock yourself out.
No need to check other newspapers, just stop being lazy and check the facts
Never heard of those newspapers, and what do communist papers have anything to do with this? You have no facts to speak of. Changing the subject again aren't we? And as any fair critic could see, my posts are generally straight from the BBC, I mean I know there is a C in the name but I would hardly call them communist, again just more of your illogical dishonest disingenuous spin.
Let's pretend you are in a courtroom, and try to stick to the facts. And remember, facts are those silly things you have to prove in order to be taken seriously. If not it is hearsay and it is of no use to anyone. Unless you are pathetically trying to string something together to fit your overall narrow minded outdated political perspective.
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Whose kidding, I find your political commentary amusing and extremely simplistic
Would it be dream worthy to think you might actually post verifiable data? I guess you are right. I am dreaming. Well keep posting your politically naive commentary and unverifiable innuendos.
But if you aren't upset by my comments don't respond. BTW none of this has anything to do with the economy here. But I guess we all need a place to rant, don't you Sid.
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Everything effects the Argentine Economy, so lets post accordingly
I would think you would be dizzy by now but you just keep going and going, keep it up. I think anyone here knows your commentary is the lamest thing on AP. Just imagine what the forum would look like if your amateurish commentary and 2nd grade political analysis was the only thing available.
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