2005 Reports

The girls at Madahos were fine as hell but expensive. I never said there were no good looking girls there or in BA. They just all hang out at Blacks, Madahos and Sims. I actually went to Solid gold after Madahos and every girl there was a skank. Not only that, but after 5 minutes of talking with the least ugly girl in SG, the hostess says I have to buy her a 40 peso drink JUST TO FUCKING TALK! Are you kidding me. I declined and the girl was told to leave. Its been like that everywhere. I'm at Madahos and I'm talking to the girl for about 10 minutes and she wants me to buy her a drink for 60 pesos. The mgmt says they are not allowed to talk with the guys for a extended period of time without buying a drink. I'm sure there was alot of bullshit with that statement but it was real at every place. "Buy me a drink". Thats all I hear from everybody. I'm sick of it. Thomas, you say I want 3 hours for the price of one. Hell, Thats what I'm used too in Brazil. One other thing: YOU can't GRAB ASS HERE! I'm used to being very hands on at the termas in Brazil and I'm not bothered at all about it. This place is just to much business. As for the apartments, okay, I will check out a apartment. Please post your favorite apartment today and I will check it out tomorrow.

Thanks

Review the Apartment section. 1707 usually gets the best reviews.

Joe: Madahos and Black are notorius for high prices because they cater to rich tourists and upscale Argentines. I have not been to Madahos in almost 2 years and have never been to Black, even though I have lived here for almost three years. If you want to negotiate in there you have to speak spanish. Argentine chicas have a seperate asking price for gringos.

My strong suggestion: go to Platynum.com, pick out a couple of girls and call Roxanne immediately. Highest price for internet chicas are 200 pesos an hour. Now, these same chicas will charge 150 to locals. Some of the girls will charge more to go to your apartment because they lose travel time! But their apartments are nicley appointed and comfortable. Here is one who charges more for delivery:

[url]http://www.platynum.com.ar/Entretenimiento/Escorts/Franchesca/Franchesca1.htm[/url]

Steve, the board is full of stories about guys having their throats massaged in the clubs by girls who want their business. Personally I do not get into those publlic displays. Buying a drink first is a good sign that your are going to take the girl out. Buying a drink before the deal is struck is not something I recommend.

Get out of Recoleta, go to the triangle, Reconquista, and shop around. Go to Orleans and Excedra during the afternoons. Try a massage.

One good thing: you are only a couple of hours from Rio, you could always turn this trip into a more positive experience by cutting your losses and going to a place where you are more comfortable. I'm not being sarcastic, it just seems that BA and you are not clicking.

I just returned from my first trip to BA. I found it fantastic. Roxana is extremely helpful. She gave me a great tour and all sorts of great information. I asked her help setting up an appointment and not only was the girl great but the rate was 200 pesos not the 300 advertised. I know I overpaid for girls throughout BA, a mistake I will not make again. (Except under unusual circumstances.) Sorry guys. Next trip I will be more careful but this trip I was in a hurry to see everything.

I enjoyed meeting Exon and the Thanksgiving dinner at el Alamo hosted by Peter and Jackson was excellent.

The girls at Black are very expensive and the chica drinks were 80 pesos. I wish we had more options to find the best girls. As Roxana told me sometimes the 100 pesos girls are more fun and better performers than the 600 pesos girls.

I look forward to returning.

Has anyone tried Pamela (Gemidos massage) Brunette, very pretty, huge tits, Damaris (Platynum escorts) her new pictures are a great improvement and I wish I tried her out on my last visit. What tits and what a body! What about Mary (Platynum escorts) Brunette, very pretty, huge tits. I visited her once and she had got skinny, was not interested. Now she looks to have filled out again, but are these new or old photos? What about Yohana (Platynum escorts) Brunette, nice tits. Maria Morena anyone, Brazilian, great tits and ass! Donatella (Platynum escorts) blonde, very curvy. Celleste (Platynum escorts) to me looks very natural and seriously gorgeous, anybody tried her?

If you want a recommendation for a chick with a great rack, not skinny, looks much better in the flesh than her photos, try Anita (Platynum escorts) She was tall and seriously curvy and sexy, had a great attitude, and showed me a fantastic time. Definitely worth a repeat visit!

I would upload the photos but can't figure out how to do it, anyone?

"There are 3 ways to run a hooker bar- the right way, the wrong way, and MY WAY"

I speak spanish well enough to negotiate these girls down. I have done this in every other mongering destination. Wait a minute, this isnt a mongering destination- its higway robbery. When did inflation hit this place? When did girls in madahos and black start to not go below 100.00 US for one hour, or 250 for 3 or 4 hours. In Blacks last night there were about 15 guys and 45 girls. All the girls wouldn't come off their price. The ratio of men to women was not in their favor but they still rather go home alone. When was the last time you could get a girl out of Madahos for 150 pesos for a few hours. Was Clinton president? I hung out in Shampoo for 90 minutes last night after leaving Blacks. Another fucking dump. One fucking dump after another. Cutty Sark-DUMP- Cattos-DUMP-Solid Gold-DUMP- Affaire-DUMP - Cafe Excedra and Orleans-DUMP DUMP DUMP. They are all DUMPS! You say use the internet girls. Hell, I don't have to fly 13 hours for that. I can do that in the US or go to Costa Rica and get girls on the internet. I haven't been this jaded since I sat through that piece of shit movie "Blair Witch Project". I read one glowing review after another about this movie. Hell, Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars. Its the worst fucking movie ever made. How could so many people be so wrong and me be so right. How could there be so many glowing reviews about BA and not one negative one. Amazing. 2 more days until I'm outta here!

Hey Joe. I've been to Costra Rica a few times, I assume your just pissed about your recent visit to BA. Costra rica is no comparison to BA. Hell it cost Sat least 100 usd / hr for a chica in the Blue Marlin, Costa Ricas' best mongering location. CR chicsa in BA would starve to death if they had to compete with BA babes.

My suggestion, have a few drinks go to Newport and ask for a Chica named Raquel (fake blonde, 30yrs old) She'll spend the complete night for 250 ars and she'll screw your lights out. Tell her, her american gringo friend in Atlanta says Hola, and he'll be in BA in March.

I havent been to Costa Rica in about 2 years but I use to pay about 60 bucks for a girl there for a few hours, maybe more. Are you telling me that place has gone down also. The Columbians were always high but the ticas were good for 50 to 60 bucks. Brazil exchange rate is now 2.18. I was actually thinking of going back to Costa Rica. Are you saying stay away? I was at Newport last night for about 10 minutes. It was awful. One skank after another. I just hung out at the Mcdonalds and had a bunch of chocolate caliente. I really enjoy just relaxing and drinking these things at every cafe here. This is a very zen like place to be if you can't bang hookers. "Dont cry for me Argentina. I only have 2 days left to goooo".

BTW, whats with the fucking 80´s music in this country. Cindy Lauper, Duran Duran and Tears for Fears all in one club. I'm going fucking NUTS! The one good thing about there not being any black people here is that I don't have to listen to fucking rap music everywhere I go, BUT they replaced that with fucking Cindy Lauper. When will it end! They do everything backwards here. Piss off your customers in every way possible.

LOL! Joe - I'm on your bandwagon! I enjoy reading the forums here quite a bit. But traversing from my home in the US to my home in Cordoba, Argentina and typically passing through Buenos Aires and Brazil, I can say I've had enough experiences to personally wholeheartedly agree with you. But, I've come to my own conclusion that the glowing reviews I read about a lot of these places in BA might be from those not personally exposed to what you or I may have exposure to (or those looking for bargain basement deals) and hence why I am just as jaded as you are. I'm quite certain there are others that feel the same as you. Those would be the types that don't settle for mediocrity.

I'm an executive with a large US company (semi-retired, single and still a sprite 42)! So I don't typically settle for low budget anything and certainly don't travel half way across the world just to find a "deal" on well used women. I would rather pay what most posters here consider outrageous sums of money and stick with the members only clubs in the US. But the money aspect is nothing more than perspective. Outrageous to one is minimal to another.

Personally, I enjoy visiting some of the clubs in BA for their entertainment value. The culture is different, the girls different, the way of doing things a little different. Though I will tell you, it's amazing how far they will kiss your butt at the BA clubs if they already know you spend $$. It's pretty fun walking into one or two clubs with a couple of friends and them knowing you and immediately catoring to you with the best girls right away (even though their best girls may not be much to talk about - but bless their hearts for trying!). Cuts down on the "trolling".

I firmly believe that those that find frustration at the clubs in BA are those looking for "killer deals" (my friends and I call them "blue-light specials") or those that are already used to much better. In which case, it would be easy to be jaded. You have to remember that just as anything other business, the clubs you visited cator more towards the tourists who wouldn't know any different. Have you seen prices for the junk they sell at Telmo?

Why not try a different atmosphere. Try going to a club outside the city that cators to the locals. There are quite a few places outside the "tourist traps" where it doesn't cost much for a beer and a girl and you'll have a fun time playing some pool and then deciding if you want to take the girl out with NO PRESSURE (I wish I had the names for you, but if you speak spanish just ask a taxi driver). Since most these places cater to the locals, you don't hear much about them. Or try heading to Cordoba. You can find brothels there in the local paper and since it's not so tourist laden as BA is, the prices may be more to your liking. Or try Brazil, even Uruguay, where they are a little more relaxed. Personally, if I were a true "monger" I'd be enjoying Brazil more than Argentina. If you're in BA strictly for the mongering and nothing else, I would say you're in the wrong place if you're looking for top quality places and girls. While they might exist, they are few and in between. You might also find it less frustrating if you treat all this as an adventure. Kind of like sightseeing! LOL! You'll eventually find the ones that you like and don't like. But you just have to keep an open mind. Of course, if you're on a budget of some sort, maybe this may not be the best perspective. :)

Keep in mind that my perspective is different than most on here (from what I read). I wouldn't personally walk out of any of these clubs with a girl unless she was model quality (in my eyes) and caught my interest (in which case, they'd most likely be $$$ compared to the norm). I can count the girls I've left with at the clubs you mention on one hand. I tend to lean more towards the higher quality services (or private introduction services). I've also had very good limited success with Internet services Platynum and AreaVip.com. My perspective is that you get what you pay for though. I don't really look for the sex "quicky". I like hiring a girl for a nice outing / date and making an entire day or evening of the experience. What I've found in my experience is that the right high priced girls offer the following advantages:

They are more likely to take care of themselves since they have the means ($$$) to do so.

They are typically very well educated (I have taken them to fundraising and other functions and have never worried about having them make me look bad - and it's cool knowing I will be spending the night with them when we get home)

They typically dress immaculately and look stunning.

They make excellent travel companions and I've never had a dull moment.

They have less mileage because the average joe can't afford them.

Again, this is all just my opinion and just the way I go about things. It certainly may not fall into the purest definition of "mongering". But I do empathize with your frustration!

P.S. They've been playing the 80's music for years, even in Cordoba. I find it hilarious! Of course, Miami Vice and the Simpsons seem to be the iconic TV shows there so what would you expect! LOL!

Justmoi,

I have tried Brazil. About 6 times. Thats why I'm jaded. I just came here because the exchange rate in Brazil is in the toilet. Looks like I will be back in Brazil. The problem with this place is there is a direct correlation between looks and price. Not so much in Brazil. Never been to Uruguay. Care to elaborate.

If you go to Uruguay (Montevideo) get the local paper. I think it was called El Pais. Check the massage section for some give addresses and brush up on the spanish then go visit them. The rates there are around $150-$200 pesos for the hour. I believe there is a university nearby or something because the couple of massage places I went to had nice looking younger girls working there and they were all very friendly.

I went to a couple of clubs last time I was there (a couple of years ago) and they are the same as the clubs in BA. Since Montevideo is so close to Argentina, you will see parallels and probably have the same frustrations.

Like in BA, they also have whiskerias there as well. Some of these places are run down but a couple aren't so bad. I like to have a little fun and "rent" a girl and play pool and get to know her a little before I decide to take her out or not. At least I have fun if I decide to just leave.

By the way, some of the brothels in Cordoba charge you a very low minimum, and you can visit with the girl that you choose over a coke or coffee in the establishment. The hourly rate doesn't apply until you actually take her to a room. This way if you don't like the girl you can choose another until you find one you want to take into a room.

I only recently found this forun (as you can see by my post count) so I never kept the names of these places in mind for sharing with others, but I can tell you one of these bothels in only a few blocks from the main Post Office on Colon. I initially got the address in the the local paper advertising (La Voz Del Interior) When I head back to my home in Cordoba next week I'll be sure to start noting some of this info.

BY the way... I agree that quality in Brazil is higher. Since cost isn't a precluding factor for me though, it's still my favorite place regardless of the exchange rate. It would still be less than in Los Angeles and the attitude and atmosphere in Brazil is so much better! Considering my flights to Cordoba cost around $4-5k (I fly Lan Chile Business or First), at this price I certainly wouldn't be flying to South America purely for the women! If that were the case, I would be doing so much better staying in Los Angeles! :)

Well, I'm finally almost out of this place. I have 250 pesos left after exchanging 300 us when I arrived. I can't believe how much mileage you can get out of 300 dollars when your not banging girls. I tried so hard to blow my 885 pesos knowing I won't be back and I still have plenty. I will just hang out at Madahos tonight and look at all the hotties and then go home at about 5am. If anyone will be there tonight and wants to argue with me about why I should love this place please feel free to come up to me. I will be wearing light blue jeans and a almost all black shirt with a stripe across.

I'll look for you, you look for me.

I''m wearing a purple summery chiffon dress. I'm 6'2" & hard to miss in heels.

Have you thought of trying something completely different for your last night!

Starfe

Just wondering if Mr. F ever has anything good to say about anyone or anything? Seems like every post is a complaint or negative with alot of anger?

BTW - those clubs and chicas in Buenos Aires ripped you off big time. I have never had any problems finding quality chicas at fairly good prices. I just take my time and show patience. And I have never had any problems with the clubs trying to over charge me. Guess it just happens to some people.

Perhaps they sense the same negative attitude.

JMO

Suerte,

Stowe

I don't think they are ripping me off. The price is 50 or 60 pesos for a drink. Thats what they charge everyone I assume. I'm only complaining about the constant hustle for me to buy them a drink.I´m on vacation. I want to relax. I dont want to feel hustled the wole time that im in a bar. This place could be in the top 2 or 3 mongering destinations in the world if they knew how to make their customers happy. Im sure you will all say that they are making a fortune as it is now, and they are, but they would make so much more in repeat business if they ran it right. This place reminds me of blockbuster video. They gave the worst service and charged the highest prices for movies and late fees. They never stopped with their hustle. Now Netflix is around and they are about to go out of business.Everyone remembers how much they hated that videostore.They are paying dearly now. Back to the drinks.... I imagine at 20 bucks for a drink, the girl gets 7 to 10 dollars of that as her commission which means she can make a nice living just getting guys to buy drinks for her and not sleeping with anyone. Don't get me wrong, madahos has the finest girls in buenes aires that I saw. No place comes close. Way better than blacks by far. Its just a shame the way things are run. Anyway, it's ok, I won't complain anymore. I'm leaving tonight so its all good. No more "un beber para mi- no podemos hablar hasta tu compras me un beber". Stowe, aren´t you paying the same for chica drinks as everyone else? I actually talked a girl down to 200 pesos tonight but she said after 5 when she gets off and than kept wanting me to buy her drinks so I just said the hell with it. Its going to end up costing me 125 to 150 a girl with all the drinks.

I always take all reports with a grain of salt.

However MoonDog when he use to post on a regular basis is an excellent source of information and I have found his post not only about BsA but Brazil, specfically Sao Paulo very helpful.

In fact I don't think its even fair to compare Rio to BsA or Sao Paulo. I believe Sao Paulo and BsA are very much alike. You can't depend on Termas in either place like in Rio, you don't have the Copa and you don't have Help either. I would consider that makes it easier to find chicas in Rio for less money, but judging by some of the "stunners" posted by some people on ISG, there's better looking Mexican chicas here in Los Angeles and I prolly wouldn't have to pay for it.

Your tactics have to be different because of this, and since you were a newbie I would have at least contacted Roxanne. On top of that if you speak spanish so well, why not go to one of the apartments for a test drive? You could have gotten the local rate for Internet Chicas if you spoke well enough not to be detected.

Rio I think is slightly overrated now. You have too many tourist in the area and people like Mike in Brazil making Internet Porn there which will do nothing but bring down more desperate sex-starved tourist to the area. They will give ugly chicas more money thus driving the price up for regular mongers that visit and making the better looking chicas even more expensive.

I think if you review your tactics, you find you went 180 in the face of conventional wisdom in dealing with BsA and set yourself up for failure.