American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]No apology is necessary when pointing these things out about Palin and her context. This is a nomination for VP, not of Dogpatch, but the United States of America. There's nothing wrong with stating the obvious, the whole scenario looks like a good start on a screenplay for David Lynch, not the dignity and bearing of a leader of a country with the size and power of the US. All in the service of a cynical ploy by Walnuts trying to grab Hillary Clinton's disaffected supporters.[/QUOTE]Well put. When did Al Bundy move the family to Alaska? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! Argh! I just swallowed my reefer.

Question: Who would you rather see tortured at Gitmo next?

Joseph Lieberman or Ralph Nader?

As much as Ralph deserves it, maybe a life time of infamy is enough. Put the battery charger cables on high for Joe (The Weenie) Lieberman.

[QUOTE=Sidney]Sad but true. Obama's bullshit has taken him a long way! An ''ivory tower'' university teacher! Get real! Never had a job in business! An indoctrinated Muslim and ''whitey hater'' from a terrible church. No record of success! In fact, all his past records are secret! I have his acceptance speech---I will read, without witnessing his oratorical skills, to determine if there is anything of value (BA Herald 8-31-08) Then post.[/QUOTE]C'Mon Sid. I'm guessing somewhere along the line Obama has fucked a white woman. That counts for something don't it?

[QUOTE=Doggboy]Hi Stowe-I'll admit my post was pretty heavy handed, but also a little tongue in cheek. You can bet that if a Palin type, and a Palin type family, were added to the Democratic ticket, the Republican assault would be light years worse. It will be interesting to see how the whole Palin thing plays out. I hereby reserve the right to bludgeon this choice of Palin again, no holds barred. You gots to fight fire with fire sometimes.

Suerte-Dogg Limbaugh[/QUOTE]Hey DB,

I fully agree with you that the Republicans would be on it like a Pitbull. They invented and perfected the attack method of campaigning. The Dems are amateurs and don't know how to do it like when McCain agreed with a questioner about possibly bringing back the draft, you heard NOTHING from the Dems. And THAT would be a topic to attack on as it is a policy position.

I just think all this distracts from the media actually challenging the candidates-but we will never have that again because the public now wants the attacks.

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'Hannity' Stowe

Mongers,

The "experience" factor is being completely overblown here; NOBODY has ever had the relevant experience to be President, except maybe a sitting Vice-President, and even he in most cases is merely a figurehead that does nothing and has marginal influence (Cheney is an exception) Superior Natural intelligence, Ivy-level education, the ability to negotiate / compromise (not falling in love with failed policies / strategies) and an accurate / modern worldview are the most important attributes that a potential president must possess, IMO.

John McCain is an old man and therefore has plenty of "experience", as most 72 year old men do. He managed to crash his way out of the Navy, leave his wife after she was mangled in an accident, and corrupt himself in the Keating 5 scandal. This man turned to politics essentially because he was incompetent as a naval aviator. He only got into the Naval Academy because his father was an Admiral; he graduated in the BOTTOM 5% of his class at Annapolis. I honestly do not believe that John McCain (just like George W. Bush) has the cranial capacity (especially at his age) to be the President of the United States.

Barak Obama, on the other hand, went to Columbia University for undergrad (Political Science, specialized in International Relations) and Harvard Law School (graduated Magna Cum Laude); at Harvard he was President of the Harvard Law Review. He worked as a civil rights attorney, not the most lucrative, but very notable and noble work. In addition, he taught at University Chicago Law School for 12 years, another top notch intellectual institution. This man's intellectual credentials cannot be questioned. He has the educational training to be President, the superior intellect, AND he rose to the position he is in by only his own intelligent and ambition- he came from nothing, a mixed-race broken home.

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Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Stowe]2 years in office in one of the smallest states in the Union.[/QUOTE]Haven't we already been through this in the forum?

Alaska is the [u]LARGEST[/u] state in the USA.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson]Haven't we already been through this in the forum?

Alaska is the [u]LARGEST[/u] state in the USA.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Jackson,.

You know VERY well that the discussion was regarding population and economy. Stop being obtuse. Perhaps you didn't know, in that case I overestimated your ability to grasp the obvious. In which case, I apologize and pity you.

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Stowe

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers,

The "experience" factor is being completely overblown here; NOBODY has ever had the relevant experience to be President, except maybe a sitting Vice-President, and even he in most cases is merely a figurehead that does nothing and has marginal influence (Cheney is an exception) Superior Natural intelligence, Ivy-level education, the ability to negotiate / compromise (not falling in love with failed policies / strategies) and an accurate / modern worldview are the most important attributes that a potential president must possess, IMO.

John McCain is an old man and therefore has plenty of "experience", as most 72 year old men do. He managed to crash his way out of the Navy, leave his wife after she was mangled in an accident, and corrupt himself in the Keating 5 scandal. This man turned to politics essentially because he was incompetent as a naval aviator. He only got into the Naval Academy because his father was an Admiral; he graduated in the BOTTOM 5% of his class at Annapolis. I honestly do not believe that John McCain (just like George W. Bush) has the cranial capacity (especially at his age) to be the President of the United States.

Barak Obama, on the other hand, went to Columbia University for undergrad (Political Science, specialized in International Relations) and Harvard Law School (graduated Magna Cum Laude); at Harvard he was President of the Harvard Law Review. He worked as a civil rights attorney, not the most lucrative, but very notable and noble work. In addition, he taught at University Chicago Law School for 12 years, another top notch intellectual institution. This man's intellectual credentials cannot be questioned. He has the educational training to be President, the superior intellect, AND he rose to the position he is in by only his own intelligent and ambition- he came from nothing, a mixed-race broken home.

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Rock Harders[/QUOTE]This encapsulates the differences between the two perfectly. Well said!

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Stowe

[QUOTE=Stowe]Jackson,

You know VERY well that the discussion was regarding population and economy. Stop being obtuse. Perhaps you didn't know, in that case I overestimated your ability to grasp the obvious. In which case, I apologize and pity you.

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Stowe[/QUOTE]You've hurt my feelings!

[QUOTE=Jackson]You've hurt my feelings![/QUOTE]Gee, I am soooo sorry, but we are all big boys here and I am sure you will recover. After all, it's only personal-from the past, so to speak.

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Stowe