2004 Reports - Edited

Exon I think you and polo go together like Laurel & Hardy, the sipping of Gin on the rocks, the social class and in between chuckas the stamping of the Turf (I can just picture it)
Have Fun
FH

Dickhead,

I talked to one of the guys staying in one of my properties that also tried that new club. He said it sucked so you made the right call not going I guess. I heard there were a few Americans trying to start a club and I'm not sure if that is the one. I honestly think that any Americans trying to start a club will fail here unless they get partnered with one of the successful clubs that already has the pay off scheme worked out with the cops.

Generally, I predict that more and more clubs get more expensive. As I predicted, tourism is booming here and it's getting busier and busier. Many hotels have been booked solid the past couple of weeks and I see the occupancy rates for December are staying pretty full. December was typically a slow month before. More and more Americans are coming (non mongers) but I think percentage wise more and more Europeans are coming with their strong euros.

A few guys called me this morning that are getting kicked out of their room at the Etoile tomorrow morning because they came down with no reservations and could only find a room for one night. They are probably the 6th set of guys that I have gotten a call or email from. The BA of today is not the same one of the past few years so definitely make a reservation if you are coming down here. Some of my apartments already are booked into February.

Good luck all.

I saw no evidence of American ownership.

If there are more non mongers coming to BA, are there also more mongers coming to BA in the same proportion ? I mean are the clubs filled and what is the girl/guy ratio like these days ?

I am counting the days to my trip.

JackDaniels,

I wouldn't know if more mongers are coming down. I don't go to the clubs much but when I went it didn't seem like there are more mongers. In fact, most of the clubs when I did go seemed like less people then a few years ago and last year. I honestly don't have that much contact with mongers coming down. Most of the people staying in my properties aren't WSG guys. The percentage of WSG guys compared to the everyday common tourist coming to Buenos Aires on vacation is so miniscule it wouldn't even register. I get dozens and dozens of emails per day and almost none of them are WSG guys. And the WSG guys that I do get emails from, 99% want to stay in a cheap apartment. (Not that there is anything wrong with that).

A few guys lately have been coming for vacation and just discovered the joys of the hobby. Generally though, IMHO, the quality of the girls in the high end clubs (like Black and Madahos) has significantly deteriorated. It used to be that you could see many hotties. Now you might be lucky to see a couple. Granted, all it takes is 1 girl but if you are in town a week or more, your chances of repeating might be high whereas in 2002 and 2003 you wouldn't even think of repeating because there was so much quality.

For me, there are much hotter girls just working in the malls, in restaurants and that I see working in some offices. If you speak some Spanish, ask them out. You'd be surprised at the results. Good luck.

P.S. Dickhead thanks for the info on the club. The expat community here is very small so I get emails from many of them asking what I think about their business plans. I got one from a few American dudes that were trying to open a club. Another one said he planned on starting an apartment like Santa Fe 1707. My advise was not to get involved unless they partner with a local already involved. With one phone call, another apartment can call the police on you and it's lights out. I don't imagine the inside of a jail cell is too pleasant here in Argentina. I heard that the guy in Rio that got arrested was in a tiny jail cell with about 100 other prisoners. Not exactly a good thought.

As civilized as these people are here, prostitution is still illegal here. Sure, they look the other way with bribes but there is a big difference between a local starting this type of business and an American starting this type of business.

Jackson, I realise that you have been very busy with the WSGForum upgrade but I was wondering if you were planning on updating your chica referral section on the argentinaprivate website. Roxana tells me that it's not been updated for a year now which puts it somewhat out of date.

Thanks for all your hard work anyway.

Instead of paying "only" 380 pesos at Black I got one for 125 plus 30 chica drink. She stayed two hours and sucked me dry. I mean [b]bone[/b] fucking dry. Nice girl too. I took the precaution of taking her under the stairs and feeling every inch of the merchandise before I made my offer. Some friend of the Savage Beast by the name of Mabel. 25 years old, from Tucumán. I would repeat.

I just got a hand job at 877 Paraguary for $60 peso's

While waiting for Mickey Mouse to go to the Airport and my standby flight.

I asked Caroline, (the ball washer), from Orleans Cafe for a freebie and said I'd pay her next time Im in town, she said "NO".

Exon

Only one repeat this trip and a few new favoritas. What a week and what a city. I am jealous of the rest of you, but please help Mickey Mouse out and take good care of his chicas while I'm gone.

Until the next new adventure in January or February,
The Mouse

I can jerk myself off at no marginal cost. Comparing a hand job to two hours of oral and vaginal sex is like comparing McDonald's to Estilo Campo.

DH,

I think you just found a way to stay on budget! :)

Well, with all the talk about hand jobs, I have to put in my two cents.

I arrived in BA with the hoards early this morning and slugged my way through the incredible line. "Pardon the bother, we're putting in a new system..." the sign at immigration says. Yeah, the sign had been there for two years.

I don't sleep worth shit during the 16-18 hours of sitting on planes and airport lines on my way to BA. I've found a really nice way to spend my first afternoon. Call Roxana and ask her to send Norma over for a two hour massage (50 pesos per hour, 30 pesos for transportation--she lives 1 1/2 - 2 hours from downtown). Don't let her small size and plain looks put you off. She gives a WONDERFUL massage. All the aches and crap from the flight simply vanish. Handjob doesn't adequately describe the last 15 or 20 minutes of the session. Let me just say that the sensations she can produce in me are remarkable. And if it doesn't end up being the longest orgasm you've ever had, I'd be pretty surprised. Then again, there was this little geisha in Sao Paulo a couple of years ago...but that's a different story.

BTW, Norma had a baby girl in August (the last time I had a massage, April of so, she was HUGE). Give her a little something extra for the kid.

Yesterday after Exon fucked the mansion masseuse I fucked her even better, on Exon's spare bed, with a rubber provided by Exon. Then I went to Nuevo Estilo and got a comprehensive, professional, protracted Paraguayan Patricia blow job. Definitely one of the better blow jobs I have ever gotten but the masseuse had emptied me completely so it was all for naught but I enjoyed it anyway. I think on some special occasion I will take both Patricia and Antonela at the same time. That will probably double the GNP of Paraguay just in and of itself.

Yes it is true that DickHead and I shared the same Massuse yesterday, at Jackson's birthday pool party. I had earlier had done a "doblea" with her and her girl friend.

DickHead followed useing my bedroom and condom.

But What I thought was the most interesting statement of the day came latter at Nveuo Estila.

I had picked out a very nice blond "Debbra" whom DickHead was fimilar with. I was worried and was only negoicating for a half hour because the Massuse had gotten all my bullets earlier.

I pulled DickHead aside and stated, "I don't think I Can Finnish"

DickHead's responce" Yes But Can You Start", "yes" my reply. "Well then" he stated. We had a beautiful half hour and no I didn't "Finish", but would repeat

Exon

>Dickhead

>Instead of paying "only" 380 pesos at Black I got one for 125 plus 30 chica
>drink. She stayed two hours and sucked me dry. I mean bone fucking dry.
>Nice girl too. I took the precaution of taking her under the stairs and feeling >every inch of the merchandise before I made my offer. Some friend of the >Savage Beast by the name of Mabel. 25 years old, from Tucumán. I would
>repeat.

DH we have got to be the same age, because how could anyone be such a pro and master at getting all the girls that you do. I have read about you for a few months now and to be honest I can't wait to bank roll a few nights with you just for the fun of it. You remind me of myself, dude I just love ya, ha ha ha. I love your style, love your input and wildness. Your beer info was pricesless.

You are the man, until I get to BA. Ha ha ha expect the time of your life when I get there dude.

WV

Stormy has asked me to clarify that the rubber Exon unwittingly provided me to use with the masseuse was [b]not[/b] the same one he had (hopefully) previously used with her. I'm not quite [b]that[/b] much of a Dickhead.

We took it without asking which was bad but the alternative would have been worse: blow my load all over Exon's open suitcase. So, it was the lesser of the two evils. Hee hee.

BTW we saw a beautiful, high class looking hooker at the bar in Sucre, the restaurant on the street of the same name right behind Nuevo Estilo. We did not approach her since we are old and ugly, were poorly dressed, were drunk, and were in no real need of pussy. Plus I cannot speak for Exon, who "goes first class whenever possible," but I knew [b]I [/b]sure as hell would not pay her asking price. One look at her and I knew she was out of my league.

If you are going to go to Nuevo Estilo and drink numerous 5 peso beers, I do [b]not [/b]recommend drinking two 8.5% Duvel beers in Sucre first. That could lead to lapses in judgement such as paying for totally unneeded pussy (is there really such a thing?), especially when added to a base coat of fourteen regular beers (I was counting).

While it is true I drank twenty-one beers yesterday and two were extra strength, in my defense I say that it was over an 18 hour period. So, if my liver is still functioning correctly, that should be the same as drinking three beers. That is a fairly big "if," however.

DickHead is welcome to use my rubbers anytime and it was very thoughtfull of him not to use my bed or cum in my suit case.

But the cost of the rubber will be deducted out of the next beer I buy him in two or three months

Exon

Today I woke up with wood and could not go back to sleep so again it was onto the #39 bus for a quick fuck at Santa Fe 3373 #5C. This time instead of Támara I fucked the Chilean again, Veronica. Shit, maybe her name is Victoria. Anyway V something but she does not blow as well as Támara. More tits and ass though. Both are nice girls and well worth 40 pesos the half hour. That was around 7 AM so I did not have a lot of options.

Tuesday night I had my [b]second[/b] conversation with José about bringing friends in and not paying the cover. The first time he said I could bring in one or two but not four as I had done that night. I said fine, understood. Since then I've brought in one, and two, and then three but I asked the door guy if it was okay and he said fine.

Tuesday I went in with Exon, who's been there many times, and another guy who hasn't been there too often. We didn't pay and José called me over [b]again[/b] and I said WTF, you said I could bring in two. He said well blah blah blah and the last guys you brought in did not take any girls. I said, no the last time I came with Mickey Mouse and he fucked Antonela. He said oh yeah I forgot. I said look, I don't want this bullshit anymore and I don't give a running son of a ***** if the guys I come in with pay the cover or not as long as [b]I[/b] don't :). I pointed out that I had never even asked him not to charge me. I also pointed out that I always buy at least one 15 peso chica drink. Well, almost always.

We chatted for a while and he bought me a beer and finally I said I would self police the situation. So, if you are going to NEB with me and you aren't going to take a girl, just pay the fucking cover. It's only a 5 peso difference if you have a mixed drink or 10 if you have a beer. Or if you are going to have at least three drinks he said that was okay. I think that's what he said, anyway. My ears were ringing pretty bad from loud music and beer and blow jobs.

Decided to visit solid Gold last night,on my own as all my amigos have sadly departed.
If you have not been to solid gold the place is on two levels, dance floor, bar seating downstairs and lots of intimate seating upstairs.
Entrance is 30 pesos/2 drinks, Chica drinks 30 pesos, now this is where it can become expensive because its 2 drinks for every hour you want to spend with the chica.
Lots of chicas, propably the most of any club I have been to in BA.
After changing my mind several times I noticed a tall dark haired chica sitting in company, after a while she was free, I made my move.
An exwaitress from SG, decided she needed more money so 2 months ago she swoped sides.
She truely is a very good looking chica, great body very long hair. I have become quite a good negotiater on prices but this girl would not budge from 300 pesos for 1 hour.
So 2 drinks later we are in a cab back to my place. Now this is where it turns, I do the usual, drink, music etc etc etc.10 minutes in the bathroom, come on I only have an hour. Anyhow on to the bed and I already know this is not going to be as good as I was hoping.
Now I love DATY, I mean I love it, down I go and no, what do you mean no, NO DATY.
Sex it self was limited to 2 posistions, so in total I can not recommend this lady. Her name is Elizabeth, she is 24, tall long dark hair (to her waist) only been working 2 months to date.
Its been stated hundreds of times on the board, price and service are NOT related. Im banging a 20 year old,150 pesos for 3,4, 5 hours as long as I want her to stay, shes loving, extremely loving and every thing for 150 pesos, untill Im a spent force!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FH

I am beginning to think more and more there is actually an [b]inverse[/b] relationship between price and service. Favorita #1 I paid 150 and she was good but no CIM and ran to the bathroom right after sex, and ran off in the morning. Also nagged for money. #2 I paid 120-130 and I could do anything I wanted to her, and she always fucked me in the morning albeit sometimes hurriedly if she needed to go. Never nagged for money. All she ever asked me to do was not to put green peppers in the spaghetti sauce or in the scrambled eggs. Favorita #3 I paid 110-120 and she would stay all night and all morning and was willing to give me her cola (did not want it although I sort of tried once), never nagged for money, and finally fucked me for free. I have a possible #4 in tryout status and am giving her 100 and she stays the night, fucks me in the morning, and hasn't asked for anything, not even cab fare (she rides the bus). She just asks me not to close the blinds all the way. I can handle that.

Also [b]great[/b] service for 100 at Suipacha 921 [b]plus[/b] a beer or even whiskey if you want it, good selection, friendly madam, [b]never[/b] heard the word "propina" (I don't know what that word means anyway) in there, BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK all possible depending on the gal. Service with a smile in that place, for sure.

First visit to this place and, as normal, high noon. I wasn't sure if it would be open so early but it was. I had reconoitered this place some six weeks ago but, because of its proximity to the triangle and early time of day, decided to pass. I was afraid visiting mongers would have kept the stars up all night and inflated the prices. Was I wrong.

Five top quality girls were presented. The price quoated was 70 pesos for 1/2 hour and 100 pesos the hour. There was no mention of the 2 girls for 100p promotion (nor was I interested). Operating hours are from 10 am to 3 am. I chose Nadia because she gave me a kiss on the lips instead of a kiss on the cheek. I have found this is a signal that they are very oral (DFK, BBBJ, CIM, AR) without prompting.

As Dickhead would say a direct relationship. Now I am saying this because Dickheads post regarding the relationship of price to quality immediately preceeds this post. I am in fact prompted to make this post in response to Dickhead´s. But no one will read it because I am a regular member and it will posted 2 or 3 days from now. Nonetheless, Dickhead is right. The best ass I have had here has been in the 40 to 60 pesso price range. The enviornemnt may have been sleazy, but the best ass is on the lower end of the price scale.

Suipacha turned out to be the best apartment I have visited here. I have been going regularly to 1707 Sante Fe and was happy. This place exceeds 1707 in facilities and equals in quality of girls. Price is about the same. Very clean and tidy. I really appreciated that considering some of the crack house quality apart5ments I have visited. Everything considered, Suipacha rates number one in apartments. BTW Nadis was very accomodating. Looks 8, attitude 9, performance 8. I will replace 1707 as my favorite apartment.

Very interesting, DH, because I have been arriving at the same conclusion. I am starting to develop a theory:

When a woman is in the low priced league for whatever reason, ESPECIALLY IF SHE DOES NOT BELONG THERE, she has very little to lose and is anxious to take advantage of whatever opportunity might be presented. So she is more willing to put in an extra effort or even take a risk IF she thinks there is an advantage to be gained long term, or even significant more money short term.

To a woman already in the high priced league, you are nothing special. She has a lot to lose if something happens(like some rash from DATY, breast sucking or whatever). So she is very unwilling to risk anything and attempts to keep the action to the absolute minimum necessary to keep from being thrown out. Also, I think they begin to learn that many people respond to being insulted by trying harder and spending more. There are many people who for some wierd reason strive for the approval of doormen, waiters, bathroom attendents, store clerks and so on, that are actually in a much lower social class. That is, I suspect, a large part of the reason for overtipping. So the women in Black who learn to insult you if you suggest they are expensive are not so stupid. Many men will spend more to prove they are "worthy" and have "made it". I am amazed by people who are proud of the fact that they can converse with a waiter of bartender that makes one-tenth what they make. Huh?

I also suspect men are more generous in their ratings of women they have spent a lot of money for. I think they see thru money coated glasses. If it cost a lot, it must be good.

I am going to test this theory again tomorrow. Yesterday, I saw in a truly disgusting brothel a gorgeous 20 year old. She said she has worked there 5 months. I took her for a 1/2 hr session for $US5(not a misprint!) just to take her clothes off and check her body. I have a date with her tomorrow to bring her to my hotel for the afternoon. I am going to try to clean her up and get her to quit working the brothel and become private stock 2-3 times a week. There is practically zero chance I could do anything similar with a well established, high priced internet/agency woman or a high priced bar woman. They can't afford to take the chance for less than retirement money.

While in Solid Gold last night they put on their "SHOW" singers,dancers etc.
While a stripper was performing the chica I was sat with, asked If I like?
Tall blonde, fake tits, shes OK I reply.
She looks me in the eye and says " She was born a MAN"
I spent the rest of the evening checking any chica who came near for an Adams apple & a 5 O'clock shadow.
FH on his gaurd.

There is a two "girl" show that I saw in Affaire Recoletta that was done by Transexuals/tranvestites also. All the girls in the club were near the stage and really getting into it. The chica I was entertaining asked I wanted a closer view. I said hell no!

After a pretty good show at Pelvi's with some fun girl/girl stuff, headed to 921 and was eventually presented with 6 chicas, first two and then 4 more after waiting a bit more. Nothing wrong with any of them and I had never been with any of them. Chose Carla, a classic Latina look, fairly short morocha, claims to be 24 and was mildly offended when I guessed 27. She's from BA province.

Anyway she has a nice smooth body, pretty good set of tits, and bonus points for leaving on the fishnet stockings. Not too much BBBJ before the rubber went on, and not like the awesome deep throat I got from Pandora. But a good session overall and she has good muscular control of the pussy, which eventually led to a rare instance of MSOG.

WIR? Depends who else is there. I put her on a par with Priscila but below Pandora, Támara (but Carla's body is better) or my yegua Katarina who was only working two days a week the last I heard.

Madam Carolina has slimmed down over the past year and I want to fuck her real bad. Unfortunately she does not want to fuck me nearly as bad.

How quickly your luck can change in this city. After my 300 pesos disaster, I returned to my "Local", Friday night. There was probably 5 or 6 chicas I had entertained previously, looking for a repeat.
Which one? Trying to remember who did what, who liked what.
Then I notice a chica I had never seen before, average height, good looking, long hair, sweet smile. I ask if she speaks any English?, a little.
It just happens she's 22, no kids, up until the previous Friday she was a 750 pesos a month receptionist, now its her 3rd night working.
One 30 pesos drink later we are off, 200 pesos for 1 1/2 hours.
At my apartment normal procedure drink, music, bla, bla, bla.
She stips off, small breasts, tight body, works out. After a few minutes its DATY time and wow what a response, this chica loves it, one after another shes wetting my sheets.BBBJ, multi positions, incredible sex. I must have lost a couple of pounds in sweat.
Will I repeat? Is Bush still President? I have 15 nights left in BA and I'll spend some with this sweet, innocent,unspoilt and so willing to please young chica.
Im keeping this one to myself, wow.
FH very happy in BA

In October, I had several massages here and the charge was $ar70 for full service on top of whatever time you spent on the massage, which was a real massage, by the way. Prices may have changed in the interim, of course.

[QUOTE=Sosher1]Yesterday I paid a visit to Esmeralda 847 based on the good references in the forum. Easy to find: 12 floor, appartment H. I was received by the madam and chose for two girls: 100 pesos. There was a line up of 6 girls, all nice. Chose for the first two with names that differ from those on there website [url]www.brisamasaje.com.ar[/url]. I suppose they change them all the time. They give me the number of another appartment in the building and there I met the girls and a normal massage-table (no candles or so!)

- back massage was fine
- the girls kept all there clothes on
- they only used there hands, almost no erotic touching
- after turning they started the haggle
- top off: 30 pesos each
- BJ (not BBBJ): 20 pesos each

I didn´t ask more. I suppose all of it could end up to 150 pesos on top of the 100 it starts with. Thank you!. They showed me the shower (alone) and I left the place disappointed and thinking of all the nice body to body massages I had all around the world.

Apart from this I had some verey nice meetings at other places. I will send reports later on.[/QUOTE]

I take a trip to ramos mejia yesterday to take a look a boliche Andres write about, but now is close (Zabala Rivadavia 14160). After that i go to Rivadavia 7000, Envidia, Doly`s. The quality of the girls in Doly`s are realy good but the rooms are realy bad. If you like to spend some extra money is better to take a room in some motel nearly.

Envidia was preaty to but the same problem for the room.The big problem in Doly is was full of men. After that I take a trip to Salome and I found a lot better then last year, many young girls at the ends trip to Cocodrilo but nothing to say about.

Has anyone ever tried these escorts, the pics of the evas are SPECTACULAR!
[url]http://www.paraisoterrenal.com/clientes/evas/index.htm[/url]

And how much do they charge?

Thanks

Yes, after a 3-year absence, I'll arrive Sunday morning, 12/19, and be free of all duties until Monday night, 12/20. Three years ago, there were 17 pages to print out from this forum representing a year or more of traffic. Half were seeking help, the other half bragging.

NOW, there is TOO much information to digest! It is a wonderful problem. Previously, I found massage places on Esmeralda, girls at Orleans, contracted with others at CuttySark, and found my dream girl, Miriam (still around) at Newports.

This time, I'd love to meet up with one (or more) of you guys. The first $40 of our accumulative beer and covers are on me. I know, "Big deal," but I always overspend, so I need to start low...

Any suggestions for a Sunday?

By the way, I'll be staying in the Sheraton Liberador, again. Last time, there was no problem with guests (1 at a time, though). Any change?

Thanks!!

Maverick

Happy Lenny,

I turned Nandy away when her tits were really larger then her actual photos.
Air brushing bothers me.

At least a dozen of the chicas on page one are not local, but international models that aren't based in Argentina. They've been all over the Internet.
LAGNAF


[QUOTE=Happy Lenny]Has anyone ever tried these escorts, the pics of the evas are SPECTACULAR!
[url]http://www.paraisoterrenal.com/clientes/evas/index.htm[/url]

And how much do they charge?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Was last monday afternoon in Café Orléans. Decided to go for Alejandra and we went to the hotel around the corner. She is a "madura" of 32 years old, 1M65, long blond dyed hair, nice faked boobs, nice curves, good bbj, good sex, anal available for those who like it. 150P for a long hour + 40P for the hotel.

Recommended if you like the maduras.

I don't hit the clubs too often but when friends are in town or cool guys I meet up with that invite me I do go. I hooked up with JackDaniels and we had a great Italian dinner in Recoleta. We decided to head over to Madahos. They don't even say anything when they see we walking in and just open the doors with no cover.

Of course we asked for Bobby. Bobby told me to tell all of you that he has enjoyed helping you and look for him in the future. He will still waive the cover if you ask for him. Anyway, I knew the quality would be down because today is a holiday and most of the locals are with their wives but still. Most of the girls there were not good quality girls overall. I really have to give this place a thumbs down now. I saw maybe 2 girls worth taking out and I had already seen them before. I don't mind paying more when the quality is better but the quality there has deteriorated to the point of being really sad now.

JackDaniels saw a cute girl that claimed to be on her first night working ever as a working girl. It could have been the truth but I doubt it. She wouldn't budge on the price. She wanted 300 pesos for an hour and wouldn't budge from it. She said the house wouldn't let her. I did confirm with Bobby that they are enforcing the system. If the girls take longer than 1 hour + drive time, they are fined one drink. This is a horrible system and could really kill Madaho's business. I'm against a club regulating the time of the girls.

Still, he already bought her a drink, she was cute and she was kissing him and rubbing him there in the club. What's a horny guy to do? She wouldn't move on the price so I tried getting more time which was futile since the new policy is in place. She promised that he would be drained within an hour anyway. I asked for BBBJ for him. Then he had this grin on his face like he was sitting on Santa's lap wanting more. So I asked the cute girl if he could come in her mouth. She says sure. Merry Christmas JackDanials. I hope you had a good time!

I looked around and said hello to a few girls I know then took off. I really have seen this place go downhill over the years with the quality of girls getting worse, the increase in prices, and the silly rules. They are honestly getting more expensive than Black when it's all said and done. At least at Black they don't regulate the girls time. I maintain now that hotter girls are in the restaurants, normal clubs and shopping malls.

I doubt I'll pull any girls out of Madahos in a while. Still a fun night but I better get to sleep. It's almost 3 AM and I have meetings in the morning. Ouch.

I took a gal out of Catto's tonight who I think most would rate an 8. Very short but I mean the face and tits and legs and ass were all there. BBJ, DFK, all conceivable positions, BBJCIM available and encouraged but that will never happen as a second shot (bummer). DATY, FUTA, 69, all of it. Just fucking beautiful. 130 plus 25 drink for 2 full hours. I am not an expert but I think that has to compare favorably with Madahores.

Of course I could be wrong.

I am going to be in BA this first few weeks of Jan. Probably around the 5th-14th but I heard everyone leaves? I have never been so I am kind of bummed if that is the situation as I was looking forward to meeting some beautiful South American beauties. Maybe some good clubs will be going on still? Well any advice would be great and if anyone else will be there I would like to meet if interested.

Thanks and take care!

Cali

Well, the girl from Madahos was as stated. She was incredibly affectionate and worth every cent. Despite the inability to have a conversation of more than a few words (due to my inability to speak Castellano), I had a fabulous time. She says it was her first day at the club and did not seem at all jaded. She was all over me in the car and gave me the full GFE. Tried to get her into my hotel, but "Que, no documento ?". So we headed off to a short time hotel. The mirrored ceiling is always a great plus and this in itself was worth paying the 43 pesos for. It is nice to see a blonde head bobbing up and down. The full hour was adequate and I could have done with 2 hours however.

This girl is really good and I am considering making her my regular, though the steep Madohos prices are a consideration. I don´t like the time limitation. I do not think that this is a good business strategy on their part. I guess their thinking is that the girl can be brought back into play and the cute ones can perhaps pick up more than one customer per night. However, the competing clubs can attract more business by not having this policy.

Saint, thanks for the company and yes, Christmas has come early for me. I also agree that the average quality in Madahos is not that great and IMHO, I got the best girl outta there. There were about another 3 or 4 that were good enough to take out. Like Saint, I am very picky and would rather leave a club alone than just take anyone. I recalled to Saint that on an earlier visit to BA, I would go from club to club looking for something special. I once walked into Affaire and the quality was abysmal and I just happened to spot one outstanding girl. I made a beeline for her and took her out without hesitation. So even in dismal surroundings, a gem can be found and that is sometimes the challenge of the hobby. I would rather be spoilt for choice though.

I have been in BA since Sunday and was down with short term bug which fortunately has gone. However, I did visit a massage girl called Brida (?) listed in todomassages.com located in Florida street. Not a good massage but she has a great body and does everything. An OK experience.

Last night was a very good experience.

I am on a the final week of a three week trip. Otto Grahm (sic) recommends staying only a week because you tend to get fagged out. I agree with him but work schedule dictates that I take all my vacation time July through December. I will be working 7 days a week for the first six months of 2005. It is my personal choice.

I took the redeye from Lima. I am staying at the Howard Johnson until Saturday and have to switch to the Loisuites do to lack of vacancy. Everything was booked through Mayra. I ended sleeping for about six hours on Tuesday and then went out for some dinner. Downtown is interesting because there are many streetwalkers on Florida after 9:00 PM. I ended the night at Cattos where I hooked up with Rafaela. I paid the tourist rate of $200 pesos which was her second quote. I am just learning Spanish and my skill level is minimal. I do not want to low ball too much because I am interested in having a happy chica. I live by a strict budget and these prices fit into my budget easily.

Wednesday I almost did not partake in anything. Call it the burnout factor. Around 5:00 PM I had a Cappuchino at Orleans and did not see anythin to my liking. By the way the first quote at Orleans was $100 dollars which I found amusing.

It started raining so I decided to head to the casino. I had a good run playing craps at the Casino in Lima and I wanted to try my luck in Argentina. The Casino was very crowded. No english spoken except for a few common crap table words like -odds working- and -change-. The minimum bet was 25 pesos and they allowed 3 to 1 odds. On the 5 and 9, they allowed odds bets up to 90 pesos on the 25 peso bet. The dealers really push the pace of the game and with my lack of Spanish, I felt lucky to survive. It was a tough table with really no long runs on the pass line. I got behind early about $1000 pesos but eventually ended up losing about 100 pesos. 2.5 hours of entertainment for $35 dollars is not bad. I am still way ahead for the trip on the gambling part. I had won three straight nights in Lima so I was do for my comeupperance. Of course now I will have to convert a couple thousand in pesos back to dollars so I will take a beating there. Interestingly I tried to tip the dealers at the end and they refused to take the tip. I paid 10 pesos for a Remis back to the hotel for safety reasons. You can order the remis right at the exit.

I almost decided to call it a night and not do any mongering for the day. Luckily I talked myself out of it. I headed out to Madahos about midnight. I thought the talent was not that great. I almost called it a night there but fortune swayed me. I ended up with Maya a cute Paraguayan (not anyone´s raving beauty by any means) with nice breasts. Actually Maya and Rafaella from Cattos are very similar in appearance. I paid the $300 pesos for 1.5 hours. Maya is a nice warm fuck and I had a good time.

Jack,

this new policy of Madaho's sucks. And it is not only us customers who think it sucks, but aparently also a lot of the chicas. I do know 2 girls who used to work in Madaho's until a few months ago. They did not say exactly why they left this place, but mentioned they don't like the way it has become. Madaho's new policy is aimed at selling more chica drinks, or just more drinks in total (that's what the boliche makes it's profit on, and it only can do that while the customer is on premises instead back home with his pants down), but maybe the girls realize that it is a bad way to hook up with prospective clients to make them repeats or even better, regulars. The observation that talent goes down points into the same direction.

There are alternatives to Madaho's, and even without DH's negotiating skills you can get the same or better for half of what they are asking there. P4p is still a competitive market in BA.

Another point: No documents should ring an alarm bell. This most certainly means she has a reason not to show a document. Two possible reasons are, illegal alien or underage. You don't want to explain either to a guy in a uniform. Every legit Argentinean citizen and resident alien (Saint, please confirm) is in posession of a DNI, documento nacional de identidad, a small booklet about half the size of a passport, and is supposed to carry it.

If you really consider to make that one a regular, stop pulling her out of the boliche. Get her phone no., and set up meetings in her spare time, and establish your own rules.

just 2 centavos,

El Alemán