2004 Reports - Edited

Amen to El Aleman's post. Just get their phone number and it solves the problem of the club scene. Many girls won't give you their phone number in the club. Many you have to pull them out at least once but you get the magic number afterwards. I've never not gotten a number after pulling them out of the club. I KNEW Jack's girl was going to be great. I told him it would be worth it. She was all over him in the club as well. This new rule at Madahos wasn't enforced before but apparently they are enforcing it now. I don't think it will last as more and more guys will start going to other clubs. It would be worth it if the girls were model material but that simply isn't the case now.

There will always be a premium for hotter girls but as JackDaniels mentioned, there were only 3 really super hot girls in there and I already had left with them earlier. Most of the girls were not what I would consider top quality (keep in mind, I'm a picky bastard).

As far as El Aleman's post about them supposed to carrying their identity card with them wherever they go. I don't believe that is true. This isn't like Havana where the police are randomly stopping them. I know many many girls that never have their documentation or ID on them. I know many girls from other countries (Paraguay, Brazil, Uraguay) that live here that never have their passport on them.

The problem encountered by Jack is the exact reason why I prefer an apartment. (Not just because I own several..) I much prefer the privacy and freedom and space that an apartment offers.

I'm glad you had fun Jack. I knew you would. Maybe you can hook up with me and my client on Friday night. Take care.

Saint, Jack

I don't know if it is appropriate to open one's mouth after the Amen - but I am not a religious guy anyway. I have not been with you guys at Madaho's that night, so I cannot say a word about the girl in question's quality, lets just assume she IS worth it. My remarks were more general in nature. Anyway, getting the no. is most important - in fact, a list of proven phone numbers is the most valuable asset if you come to BA on a regular basis. Always a fallback if you are not in the mood for experiments or just don't have the time. And, on my list are numbers of a few girls I just like to be with again and again and again. Setting your own rules outside the club scene means, make it understood that you expect more time, no clockwatching, and no "we have been together 2 hours, so it is 2*x " etc.

What I do frequently with club girls is call them, ask them to come to my apartment maybe at 7 or 8 pm, spend some quality time in the sack, and after that take them to an early (for Argentina) dinner. They can hit their club at 11:30, and everybody is happy: I got my chica fresh, she starts working with the knowledge that it certainly was not a wasted day, I have nice company at dinner plus practising my castellano, and I get to sleep after a nice f**k, a good meal and a few glasses of Malbec at a time that lets me get up the next morning as a living beeing. Clubbing until 4 is just incompatible with work, at least for me.

Saint, absolutely right, that is one advantage of an apartment. The others are, you are in just a more civilized, spacy environment, and more "at home". I just go to the fridge to get a drink, no calling room service etc. But you know you don't have to convince me...

Concerning the ID, I suppose it is like here in Germany: You are supposed to carry one, but people are supposed to do a lot of things. I DO know that there are random checks in Argentina, especially in the provinces in form of police control posts along highways (hit them myself several times). I don't know what happens if one does not have one. Probably a 20 peso bill works perfectly. Speculations.

Well, I just would like to do now what I described above - no chance, too far away. Have fun!

El Alemán

I was still horny when I woke up because Romina from Catto's could not get me off a second time. So, I headed to Güemes 3221 to see Salomé. I blew in her mouth after a very short time and after she spit it into the paper towel in a very ladylike fashion and went and brushed her teeth, we made out for a very long time, at least half an hour. But nothing was happening, and I mean nothing. Limp as a dishrag. Then she put it in her mouth and started doing something with her tongue and I immediately blew again even though I was not the least bit hard. It felt really weird too. No force whatsoever. It was like I sprang a leak. [b]Very [/b]strange.

But OMG does that gal have a nice body [b]and[/b] a beautiful face. So sweet on top of all that. IWR.

The ID:

Well, I don´t know why she had no ID. If her story is true that last night was her first day in the profession, then it could be that she did not have her ID with her, due to naivety on how the hotels work. She is definitely of legal age, 23 she says, and looks it. She could be an illegal alien (from Venus :)) but she is very welcome on my planet. Seriously though, I would think that Madohos would check documents before they allowed a girl to work there.

She does not have a phone yet but plans to get one today. This also adds some credence to her story about her hitherto amateur status. Hopefully I will acquire the number today.

The finances:

A visit to Madahos can be an expensive proposition. In addition to the 300 pesos, there will be a drinks tab of over 100 pesos, cabs and short term hotel, say another 100 pesos. So it is at least a 500 peso evening - about $180 or so. Or GBP 100 for those of us who have come from the land of the mighty pound. Cheap by European standards, expensive by BA standards. I don´t think that this outlay can be trimmed back significantly, except by getting to see a chica privately, outside the club scene.

The business:

The boliches can get away with any kind of rule so long as the girls are hot. Just look at Black, an ongoing high priced club. The customers will keep coming as long as the chicas are good. So their product is the chica while their revenue might be from drinks. No good chicas, no customers, no drinks sold. BTW, does anyone know if the chica hands over any of the 300 pesos to the club ? With just a handful of hot girls in the club, Madahos may find that this time limitation rule may not work. It is all down to the competition. K5 in Prague operates a similar policy as I heard from a girl I took out of there.

last Tuesday, I hit 3 clubs :

First at 1:00 AM I went to Partenaire (Galerie Rustique, Cerrito & Santa Fe). this used to be a great club back in the time of convertibility.

It was reopened recently. I entered the club and no chicas there, the doorman then told me that all the girls were busy escorting outside. I chat a bit with him and he told me that there are normally about 5 chicas. well it seems that what used to be a great club is no more a great club.

Second : went to La Saison (Puyredon/Cordoba) (La saison is the old name). This one too used to be a great club. Entered the club at around 1:30AM, 15P entrance fee, about 10 chicas but nothing to write home about except a blonde one with a dirty look and huge/huge tits. 100P for 30 minutes, 150P the hour. I decided to leave but might come back for the big boobs blonde.

Third : I ended up in Dolly's. It was packed with men and too many women but some doable. I decided to go for a chicas with boots, very sexy, called "la gitana" (the gipsy). excellent session of 30 minutes for 60P.

JackDaniels,

I do think it was her first night but she had a LOT of coaching from her friend who has been working there a long time. She was of age I'm sure. Madahos and the other clubs do a good job of making sure a girl isn't underage. If she had no cellphone that spells major rookie status.

I think the reason Madahos is getting away with the time rule is because the majority of guys are still locals. That is changing though with the tourism boom. More and more tourists are coming. Not sex mongers but just guys that happen to come to BA and discover the joys of the city. BA is still cheap compared to just about everywhere in Europe and North America.

To those of us that have been coming here for several years the quality has deteriorated a lot. For those that have only been here one or two times they don't know the difference. It's still heaven for them.

I won't pull out girls from Madahos with their new policy. I'll just get their phone numbers which I've had good luck doing. Most of the regular girls know me in there. They know I live here and not just a tourist so that helps alot. I know most of the waiters in there too. The last girl I pulled out of here was about 1.5 months ago I think. She didn't have the time rule.

K5 in Prague has the best management out of any club in the world but the club was severely overrated as far as I was concerned with the quality of girls. I did see a Playboy hot centerfold type girl but there was only 2 girls like that. The rest of the girls were "Plain Janes" and not worth the money.

The hottest girls are in Colombia, the best selection is in Lugano, Switzerland but BA will always be BA. Damn I love this city.

my trip to madaho's was not as much fun as in the past. The quality of girls have gone down hill. The entrance fee of 30 pesos for one drink is even more than black's 25 pesos. I do no like the fact to take out a girl longer, takes 3 drinks at 50 pesos each drink. One girl ordered a bottle of chandon and the bill was even higher. I am guessing it cost 75-100 pesos, unless they charged me 50 pesos for my drink.

My trip to Colmengua Spa was pretty pleasant. When you first enter, they will give you a choice. I just wanted a massage. There is two options. one, get an ugly girl for 50 pesos, or the vip, good looking girl for 175 pesos. What was I supposed to do but get the vip treatment and try it out. Once inside, you get to pick the girl. The girl I picked had a nice body. When giving the massage, they will go up your thigh and tease your balls. What else could I do but pay the 100 pesos to get a hand job. I admit it was expensive for just a hand job but the way they tease, no mortal could not resist. Otherwise, the place is nice and relaxing. You can swim, relax in the sauna, or take a nap in this quiet room they have.

Jack,

Take one of the first class FKK clubs in Germany, for example Palace in Frankfurt: ? 50,- entrance fee, includes all drinks (non alc) and even a decent dinner buffet, plus ? 100 for an hour with a girl, or 2 half hours with 2 girls, total of ? 150 or U$S 195,- at todays pleasant (for us Europeans) exchange rate. Ok, it is a total different scene, but brought down to $ per pop, the same - in the very center of Europe. So, I certainly would not consider a Madaho's night "cheap".

For me, the very big difference always was, that in BA time not used to be a big issue. if the chemistry between a girl and myself was ok, she just stayed as long as she liked - and that was often quite a bit more than an hour.

It is of course the right of every business to define it's rules and to try to maximize it's profit. The market decides, if that works. Madaho's wants the chicas IN the club, making the guests buy drinks, for the reasons you stated below. And, as there are a lot of guests (mainly locals) who do not pull out girls, but who just drink, and chat with the girls, and buy them drinks, this might as well work. I just don't go there anymore - except, to have a drink myself, and maybe get some phone no's.

My last 2 centavos to that topic,

El Alemán

Well, another good night in BA. Did the same as the previous day, but I already knew the girl I would be leaving with. Walked in to Madahos and walked out with the same girl in less than 30 minutes. Another great session.

Going to Madahos does increase the burn rate of the contents of my wallet. Had to visit the ATMs to refuel my wallet. Whats with the ATMs here - they seem to just give out money on a set of criteria, which I haven´t figured out yet. It appears that each bank´s ATM´s has their own maximum limit per card. For example, my UK issued card has a UK limit of GBP 200 or around 1,100 pesos but I can never get more than 500 pesos a day. In fact, one ATM went through the motions but did not give out any cash and I did not understand the message. I hope I did not get debited for cash I never received.

There were a lot of girls in Madahos last night as Thursday is their peak night. I did spot a few more good lookers including a dark haired beaut that I made eye contact with as I was leaving the club with my girl. I might rethink the idea of making one girl as my regular for the rest of my trip. As always, it is balancing act of a sure thing in terms of performance or being more adventurous and getting some variety. As we all know, some good lookers are not good performers. I would say that there were about 10 good lookers (excluding my girl) at Madahos last night. As I write this note, I am getting more and more inclined to try other venues.

El Aleman - good point, I stand corrected. I should have said "cheap by London standards". I have not been to the FKKs, but both Flowers Park in Madrid and Riviera in Barcelona have a lot of good lookers that can be had on site for about 100 euros per hour. London does not have these and escorts start at 150 pounds and can go up from there to several hundred.

As said before, the regular girls doing regular jobs in BA are very nice looking and are better looking than the girls in the clubs. This is true for most places that I have travelled to, but strangely in Brazil it seems to be the other way around. Walking around on Florida and walking through Gallerio Pacifico is great but make sure you do your neck exercises before you set out. The girls wearing the Nacion T shirts are quite delicious looking. There is a petite girl working on what appears to be a cell phone network company stand who looks incredibly edible. In Recoletta, Saint and I had dinner at an Italian restaurant and the hostess was quite a fox. Every second girl walking around is worth a second, a third, a fourth look.

I really like this city and I found it as I remembered it from my previous 2 trips. I have another week before I leave for Brazil and I hope the days go slowly and I hope I can savour the feeling for longer.

JackDaniels and others,

Make sure you check with your bank and see that they didn't debit your account. It happened to me two times where I never got money and they debited my account. I had to call them and have them correct it. Maybe they would have spotted it on their own but I doubt it.

The amount you can take out depends on your bank at home. I have some ATM cards where I have a u$s 500 limit per day and I can only take out 500 pesos at a time but I can take out the equivalent of u$s 500. (at 3:1 I can take out 1500 pesos each day but in 3 separate 500 peso transactions). I have other ATM cards where I can take out all 1500 peses (u$s 500) at one time. About 1/2 my ATM cards I can take out the limit of u$s 500 at one time and the other half only 500 pesos. As I posted before, if you use Paypal.com, request a FREE ATM card and you can take out u$s 400 per day or 1,180 pesos at one time. They only charge u$s 1 to take out up to $400 per day or the equivalent. I've used my Paypal.com debit card in about 15 countries and it always worked.

On the matter of prices. I stand by my statement that prices even at the high end clubs are [b]MUCH[/b] cheaper than the USA and Europe on the high end scene. I have seen more girls in the USA than anyone I know. I'm talking at least 1 girl per week (sometimes 2 or 3) every single week for several years straight. Most of the girls I saw were u$s 300 - $400 per HOUR. Some of those experiences were much better than any sessions I've ever had. The USA has GREAT escorts but they are just expensive. Even at Black, those prices pale in comparison to the prices of a USA escort or in Europe. I've seen model type girls in London, Amsterdam, Germany, France, Prague, Italy, Switzerland, Canada, Mexico and the USA and the prices in all those places were much, much more expensive than even in the high end clubs here.

The travel bug of a different kind hit me yesterday despite my attempts to keep healthy with vitamins, ginseng and good hydration. However, I met up with Saint and his client and his clients´s amiga. She is an elegant woman in her 30s and looks darn good. I had a drink with them at Gran Bar Danzon and we took a taxi to Madahos. My mood and health improved dramatically.

The streets are full of beautiful women. Unfortunately, not so in Madohos. We streamed in to the place and Bobby ushered us to a table. Saint´s client was immediately surrounded by women ! In the place, I got talking with a guy from New York, who appeared to be a newbie and was trying to negotiate a threesome at reduced rates. I told him that the prices are inflexible here and if he really wanted a threesome, he should forget about the 50 peso advantage and just go for it. While I was talking to him discretely, one of the girls (quite tasty) started to fondle me and this guy said "I think she wants to go with you". Anyway, I extricated myself and left him to his negotiation. Saint and I decided to visit another club and on the way out, I got a grope and kisses from the same girl. My "regular" had the day off and I was in the mood for a change. Two successive days with the same girl can be a long time.

The other club had just a few chicas and Saint was getting on well with one of them and I decided to return to Madahos and soon picked up a girl. One too many whiskeys and my judgement went and I picked up a girl who was no good. After an hour of fumbling, I ushered her out and crashed to wake up with a hangover.

Plans for today - I have asked Roxanna to book a massage for me. After that, I will relax and wander around town.

Ah, Buenos Aires ! I love this place and I hope it remains as charming at it is.

I tried to visit this place twice in the past two days. Friday it could have been that I just punched the wrong button. However today I am sure I was correct because I referred back to my notes. Perhaps one of the local guys has more information. I had an excellent time here in August 2004. If it is closed then it probably should be removed from the list.

Friday night I ran into some attitude at Cattos. The chica ( I forget her name) kept insisting the price was 250 Pesos at Cattos although she went for $200. She was very strict with her time limits. One hour was the maximum. The guy with the ponytail made sure she checked the time as she left. Someone should tell that guy that ponytail´s are passe.

I had a good experience at 1707 Santa Fe with Pamela. Very good head although she asks for a tip to go uncovered.

At 921 Supaicha I had GFE experience with Tamara. We lied on the bed and made out like teenagers for about 30 minutes. She will have some aching lips if she does that with all her guests. Very sweet girl. So sweet I gave her a nice tip for her trouble. It was suggested that anal is possible in this apartment but based on my session I do not think Tamara is into it.

Roxanna could not make contact with either of the two masseuses on such short notice, so I decided to head out to Colmegna Spa. I just wanted a good massage without any hanky panky. I will save my firepower for tonight once I get rid of my lingering headache. What will this evening bring I wonder. I still had a bit of a hangover and I had this bug that hit me yesterday (gone today, thankfully) and I just wanted a massage. I went for the classic massage at 80 pesos for one hour. This place is full of senior citizens and I lowered the average age by a century by walking in. It is a real big deal here to get undressed (in a room upstairs on the gallery), shower (downstairs) and up again to the massage section. The lady was in her 40s and did quite a good massage. Not up to the standards in Asia but good nevertheless. She did a good job of my back and shoulders which is what I wanted. Considering the time taken to get there and time spent getting ready for the massage, I am probably better off getting a visiting massage service in my hotel room. A mid day pre lunch massage, followed by lunch and a snooze, a walk around town, dinner followed by adventures in the boliches sounds like a good plan. I am relaxing nicely here. I have worked a lot this year under a lot of pressure. I feel I have earned this break. So I am going to enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man]Friday night I ran into some attitude at Cattos. The chica ( I forget her name) [/QUOTE]

A FR without a name is rather useless, isn't it? I mean, we should know who to look out for when they have a bad attitude. Or at least a good description!

My apologies for forgetting the name but what I mean by attitude was not necessarily "bad". I meant she was very aggressive about the pricing and the time limits. Similar to what you expect at Madahos and Black. She did her job so I cannot truly complain. The girl is a 5'6" Paraguayan with a lithe body and crooked teeth. You will know if you try to negotiate with her. For the life of me I cannot dredge up the name.

I was surprised with the attitude because I was at Cattos three nights before with Raphaela and the typcial two time experience for $200 pesos.

After the massage yesterday, I was feeling a little sleepy. Rested a bit and I then decided to open the evening by having a bite at Gran Bar Danzon. The girl who served me was charming and friendly. She said the place fills up at 12.00 and remains busy till 2.00 or so.

Generally the town did not look busy on a Saturday. I walked around the Recoletta area for a while. Some of the hostesses fronting the restaurants are really cute. One that caught my eye was in front of the pizza and pasta place. Really dark hair with a milky complexion. Yummy.

I thought I would go to a few places rather than go to Madahos again. I got talking to a guy on the street working on commission for Black hustling for customers. He gets paid by the card he gives you that you submit on entry. He asked me if I could say that I have never been there before so that he gets his commission. He said the girls go from $50 upwards. I didn´t believe that though. He insisted that there is no time limitation at Black and all they do is provide the bar facilities and negotiation is between the guy and the girl. So I decided to check out the place. A 25 peso entry charge entitles you to a free drink. Imported whiskies can cost more. Chica drinks are from 40 pesos upwards. I walked in and my first impression was one of amazement. The chicas did look amazing. I hung back at the bar, sipping my drink and got talking to a German guy who has travelled to over 60 countries. He knew the scene in just about every country except for BA ! He had never heard of Madahos. As mentioned before, this club is situated almost across the road from the Alvear Palace hotel and there is probably a steady feed of customers from there who do not know of any other club. Back to the chicas in Black - the first impression is that I was in the best club in BA. This impression was soon to fade. There was an Arabic dance performance which was quite good. I still hung back and I was getting smiles from various girls but did not want to commit so early. I was on my second drink and I started to realise that there was nothing special about the girls here. They are maybe dressed up a bit more but I don´t think that this can be said for all. As they all did their walk past, I did not find a single one that grabbed my attention. A chica that looked good a few minutes earlier now looked plain. Some kind of inverse beer goggles ? No, I don´t think so. I started to feel that I should move on. The atmosphere at Black is not special and feels less like a club and more of a plush hotel lobby. I was itching to move on. I finished my drink and left.

My next stop was Affaire. I had a good memory of this place from a girl on a previous trip. The doormen agreed to let me have a look inside before I paid over any money. I had a look and I decided to pay the 25 peso charge and get the free drink. I was happy to hear that the girl that I met on my previous trip had got married and moved on in her life. The girls at Affaire were mediocre and I left my unfinished drink and moved on.

My next stop was Madahos. I walked in and met Bobby who ushered me to a table where Saint´s client was already seated with a couple of friends. I think that the girls in this place are a match for the girls in Black. Most definitely. Each night there are about 5 hot ones in this place. I caught sight of a girl, who looked somewhat special. I pointed her out to Saint´s client who agreed that she was cute. I wasted no time. Bobby brought her over and she was all smiles. One drink for her and it was time for us to leave. Once again, my lack of knowledge of Castellano made conversation a little difficult but we did have laughs and fun in the club and in the taxi. It is surprising but it is possible to communicate even with just a few words of another language. I did the same in Russia where I knew even fewer words. This girl was really sweet and held me tight in the jacuzzi. She was a little bit ticklish though and the experience was more tender than raunchy. Then she really got going and gave a good passionate performance. After the session, she curled up and held me tight. Quite a GFE. As I walked her hand in hand to her taxi, I thought how lucky I am to be here and to walk around with such a cute girl in such a nice town. She kissed me deeply as she got into the taxi and blew me a kiss as the taxi sped away.

Nice end to the evening.

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man]My apologies for forgetting the name but what I mean by attitude was not necessarily "bad". I meant she was very aggressive about the pricing and the time limits. Similar to what you expect at Madahos and Black. She did her job so I cannot truly complain. The girl is a 5'6" Paraguayan with a lithe body and crooked teeth. You will know if you try to negotiate with her. For the life of me I cannot dredge up the name.

I was surprised with the attitude because I was at Cattos three nights before with Raphaela and the typcial two time experience for $200 pesos.[/QUOTE]


Big Boss Man,

$200 pesos seems a bit steep for Cattos or any of the "Triangle" clubs downtown. Last March the going rate was $150 pesos for your average foreigner and maybe if you are Dickhead even lower. Unless Cattos has increased there prices and no one has reported it, you are overpaying.

Any mongers who've been in Cattos lately have any insight on any price changes?

I have posted many, many, [b]many[/b] times that [b][i]Maipú 429 is NOT OPEN ON WEEKENDS!!!!!!!!!!!![/b][/i]. Not open on Saturday. Not open on Sunday. I don't go there any more since they raised their price from 80 to 100. The girls there aren't as good as at Suipacha 921 so they can go fuck themselves.

Rafaela from Catto's does me for 120-130 which is what I get most gals in there for. I've never paid more than 150 there and I've gotten a few decent ones out of there for 100. But I can really eat pussy so they like me in there. Rafaela's pussy is some very good eating.

Has anyone dropped down on BA's hottest (non-pro) club, Opera Bay in Puerto Madero???

I think that you need to be realistic about this money thing. My first trip into Cattos was with Chicago Boy in August. I paid 200 pesos to Karin then while at the same time Chicago Boy sitting next to me he got Sonia out of there for 150 pesos.

The difference is that I am trying to learn Spanish whereas Chicago Boy was able to speak Spanish so he was able to laugh, joke and make connections. He was a very experienced player. My conversation skill is very limited and despite having my fair share of women, the latina still think I am "timido."

My experience is that if I lowball the money I get less performance out the girl. Without knowing the language, communication is difficult and it is just a job for the girl. If it is just a job then the girl is like you or me. She is going to take the job that pays the most money.

I am on vacation. What I enjoy most about Latina women is their ability to suspend judgement and treat you like a lover immediately. A good example is yesterday when I spent most of my time with Tamara frenchkissing like we were teenagers. I can go to some selected massage parlors anytime in the States and have a zipless fuck. I want the performance. To screw up my good time for 50 pesos does not seem worth it to me.

I have read other reports where guys on the Board are paying the same prices as me. It seems as if there is scale working here. The guys who are the better lovers with the larger more engaging personalities can get the girls for lower prices. Fair enough.

Friday night I was in a regular bar whose name I will not reveal because I am a selfish fuck head and I don't want all you guys going in there. Anyway I discovered a secret corner of the place and there was a table with what looked like some hookers. I was very drunk (they make huge martinis there for 9 pesos and I poured two of those onto a good base coat of beers) and so I am unclear on the sequence of events but I think it was one of the cooks who said he could introduce me and so then I was talking to Elizabeth from Morón. She said 50 US and I said nah, I don't negotiate in dollars and I like to pay 100 pesos so she said fine, indicating to me that I could have gotten her for less. But I have no problem paying 100 pesos.

OK so then we get to my place and she heads for the bathroom and I head to where I hide my money to get another 50 pesos. She came out of the bathroom real quick and surprised me. She asked me if I was hiding my money so she wouldn't rob me and I said that I was UNhiding some money for her. BTW I have changed the hiding place just in case, but she really didn't see the hiding place per se anyhow.

Service was good. I had told her I was drunk and had been with another woman earlier in the day and that I wasn't promising anything but just wanted to kiss and get BJ'd for a while, and we would see what happened. She said she was a good kisser and proved it in the bar. BJ was quite nice and I did get it up to fuck her for a while but I couldn't finish and then she BJ'd me some more and then she left. Not a clock watcher and gave me her number but I was too drunk to know if she was good looking or ugly so I might not call her, plus she doesn't live in town anyhow. I think she might have been around 32 or so and I'm 99% sure she was a morocha but other than that it is kind of vague.

Saturday my attorney and I went to Norte and bought 14 quarts of beer at 15% off, which was all we could carry. A bonus was that whoever used the bottle return machine before we did, did not take their ticket = 3.48 peso cost savings. Then on advice of counsel I began to drink copiously and we went to the mansion to swim. That is the first time I have actually made it into the pool and it was very nice. One of the twins showed up and asked me, "¿Toro Rojo, cuándo vas a aprovecharme?" so I said how about RIGHT NOW and off we went. She told me that the other twin is "operada" = fake tits. Who the hell knows? She was a very good fuck.

Then I was going to fuck Mariela but was advised she might not be happy with 100 pesos and since she is not any better looking than the twin or the masseuse, and since her performance reviews haven't been that great, I blew her off and fucked the masseuse again. I really like her. Great attitude, great performance, nice gal. Yes, a bit heavy but BIG fucking tits. Then we staggered out to the bus stop and got on the #29 which took us close to civilization and we went to El Living and drank 3 peso beers until we could barely stand up.

I am way over budget on hookers this month.

(As this involves our hobby, I can't very well ask this in an HTML oriented forum.)

I think that a lot of the information contained in the escort sites could be better organized. Like in a spreadsheet format. For some sites I've looked at I can see where the information is comming from. But Area-Vip has me stumped. If I view the source for [url]http://www.area-vip.com.ar/area/area-vip.htm[/url] it looks to me like the three frames are defined by src="titulo.htm", src="menu.htm", and src="menu2.htm". But none of those three files defines the main part of the window, i.e. the largest section with the photos of 8 girls. How do I figure out the name of the file which provides that source?

Thanks,

Bob

I have a citibank card and I was able to pull out 1800 pesos at the citibank atm, 2 times of 900 pesos each. There is a citibank within 1 or 2 blocks of blacks The good about using the citibank card at the citibank atm, is that the machine will state how much in us funds they will charge you before you take out the money. When I was there, the atm gave me a better rate than changing at the cambios. When i inspected my statements, I noticed using other atm cards, I got a lower rate and also using credit cards, sometimes I was charged a 3 percent spread using amex or other cc's

Okay, I'm down to T minus 6 days for my arrival. I haven't been for 3 years, I only have 36 hours, I may not be back for a couple of months, and I DON't want to blow it. I've RTFB over and over, but I went to public schools.

So, I'm going to make some statements, and, perhaps, my misunderstandings can be corrected:

"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.

"The Mansion" is a private Jackson deal, although sometimes members are invited for dinners and parties.

Cuttysark is in the tank.

Orleans is more miss than hit.

Newports has become the wild, wild west. YMMV from a great experience to getting robbed. The price is no longer a bargain compared to the boliches. There are not other clubs like Newports that are a good value.

Street girls are problematic.

The only reliable internet site for escorts is [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url]. The prices listed are usually $300 for a half day (US Dollars, I think). There are almost no reviews of girls from here (although I'm sure there is some overlap). It is the opinion of this board that, aside from being far less fun, they are not a good value, either.

So, it would seem that the apartamentos continue to be a great value, particularly if you follow guidance for location/girls reviewed here, during the day. Of course, I assume most will be closed on Sunday. All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos.


Offer still stands for drinks Sunday afternoon night. Just tell me when and where.

Mav

[QUOTE=California Guy]I am going to be in BA this first few weeks of Jan. Probably around the 5th-14th but I heard everyone leaves? I have never been so I am kind of bummed if that is the situation as I was looking forward to meeting some beautiful South American beauties. Maybe some good clubs will be going on still? Well any advice would be great and if anyone else will be there I would like to meet if interested.

Thanks and take care!

Cali[/QUOTE]

California Guy,

If you want to met he beautiful babes during that time, head over to Punte Del Este.

JavMav

Your summation is reasonable except:

The Triangle is Cattos, Hook, and across the street Ness. None charges a cover to enter. Drinks are 12 p at Cattos, 15 at Ness and I can't remember Hook because I don't usually go there. Drinks for the girls are 25 at Cattos and 30 at Ness. Madahos is not in the Triangle, which is about 900 Suipacha, or near the corner of Suipacha and Paraguay. Madahos is up in Recoleta near the cemetery and Black is also in Recoleta near the Alvear Hotel. 150 is reasonable in Catto and Ness plus a drink for the girl for one to two hours. (If you have some Spanish and have had the Dickhead Seminar for Pussy Investors (DSPI) there may be considerable variance.

Don't forget 921 Suipacha, an apartment almost across the street from Cattos. Floor 6C . Excellent service at 100 p. for an hour.
Also, 1707 Santa Fe has been very good for me.

Orleans can be excellent in the afternoons, I don't think much of it at night.
There can be outstanding people at Excedra late in the evening.
Newport is totally open; there may be some risk there. Street girls can be fine with specific recommendations, otherwise why spend the time investigating?

Hope this helps

Stormy

[QUOTE=JavMav]"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.

All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos. Mav[/QUOTE]

Madaho's and Black are in Recoleta and not in the Triangle which is in the Microcenter and comprises Catto's, Ness, and Hook. Hook is where you can get the maximum amount of counterfeit money possible and has the added bonus of the world's biggest kunt for a bartender. There are no covers at any of those three places.

Madaho's has the highest prices in town except for maybe Black. By no means is it the next cheapest place than Catto's.

Suerte,

DH

[QUOTE=JavMav]Okay, I'm down to T minus 6 days for my arrival. I haven't been for 3 years, I only have 36 hours, I may not be back for a couple of months, and I DON't want to blow it. I've RTFB over and over, but I went to public schools.

So, I'm going to make some statements, and, perhaps, my misunderstandings can be corrected:

"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.[/quote]
No. The triangle is Cattos, Hook, and Ness. Black is totally separate, as is Madahos.

[quote]"The Mansion" is a private Jackson deal, although sometimes members are invited for dinners and parties.[/quote]
Read "The Mansion" thread.

[quote]Cuttysark is in the tank.[/quote]
No

[Quote]Orleans is more miss than hit.[/quote]
No, varies with time of day, your mood, her mood, your attitude, her attitude, your wallet, her need.

[quote]Newports has become the wild, wild west. YMMV from a great experience to getting robbed. The price is no longer a bargain compared to the boliches. There are not other clubs like Newports that are a good value.[/quote]

Still good.

[quote]Street girls are problematic.[/quote]
Avoid

[quote]The only reliable internet site for escorts is [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url]. The prices listed are usually $300 for a half day (US Dollars, I think). There are almost no reviews of girls from here (although I'm sure there is some overlap). It is the opinion of this board that, aside from being far less fun, they are not a good value, either.[/quote]
Wrong on all counts. Negotiate, also try [url]www.area-vip.com.ar[/url] and [url]www.gemidos[/url] com. [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url] will always have accurate pictures.

[quote]So, it would seem that the apartamentos continue to be a great value, particularly if you follow guidance for location/girls reviewed here, during the day. Of course, I assume most will be closed on Sunday. All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos.[/quote]
The "best" all depends on your perception. Nothing is certain in this hobby, except that you meet some very beautiful girls in a very short amount of time. With a little bit of effort, you can have a great time.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

JavMav,

On the English version of EscortsArgentina, most girls quote U$S 100,- for short time (ca. 1 hr). The Spanish version has no price at all. Interesting, because that clearly shows it's a gringo price, so nobody should pay it.

And there is no need to pay that. prices are subject to negotiation, and most of these girls will be happy to visit you for A$R 15,,- to 200,-. Spanish skills of course help.

In your case, with the very limited time available, I suggest to contact Roxana, give her a list of maybe 3 .. 5 names and phone numbers of internet girls, and ask her to make you a "welcome appointment" just after your arrival. There are some gems on the net, like Gabi and Bruna (own experience) or Alexia (very good reports ) from said web site. Of course, you have no idea of the girl's personality, just her looks, on the other side it also can happen with a club girl that she makes a great show in the boliche to convince you, and turns out rather dull later.

have fun!

El Alemán

As long as JavMav is getting such a stellar response to his request for information, I thought he'd be better off learning the [b]proper[/b] name for the "triangle"!!

I'd like to call the "Triangle" the "Quadrangle". [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12172][red]Here's[/red][/url] why!

Knuckhead

That mixes apples (privados) and oranges (boliches), unless of course you want to thrown in Pipper's Pub. On second thought, let's throw Pipper's Pub [b]out[/b]. Way, way, out. But anyway since there are (at least) two privados in Suipacha 921 it becomes a type of geometric anomaly.

Perhaps a different triangle would be in order: [b]three[/b] girls from Suipacha 921. Should be able to get that for 150 for 40 minutes, I'd think.

Hey Stormy I know you are reading this so perhaps you could suggest another type of triangle (MMA). Ha ha.

Those in the know always say "Triangle". Unfortunately the naming rights are held by a street hooker named Yolanda who works the "magic bench" on Marcelo T. de Alvear in from Cerrito. She is willing to negotiate, but the bidding starts at 1000 pesos. Upstarts think they can come and call it anything, but they need to check with Yolanda.

Doubt if this helps

Stormy

Thanks for the responses. Told you I went to public schools. Worse, I send my kids there, too...

So CuttySark and Newports aren't ALL bad. Cool. Met the love of my life there. Hoping to bring her to the Mansion on Sunday.

So Hook, Cattos and Ness. I think I'm going to make a list of every establishment I can find on these pages and post a poll. Don't worry, I'll put in on Nibo's board where nobody will have to see it.

I've got to buy Dickhead a beer or 15. Andrew Dice Clay meets Bs As. Of all the boards of all the countries and states of all the boards I've had to read, DH's posts are simply the best. I don't care if I or anybody agrees with every opinion. He is true to his, and should be revered!

The plan is coming into view. First, try to weasel my way into the mansion party on Sunday afternoon. Will try to bring my Miriam, but only half hoping she can come. Later to the triangle/quadrangle and Recoletta to see Newports again. Go to Orleans late Monday morning. Offer DH prices for a 10am fling. Get a massage at the hotel (1/2 price for my colleagues, I think), then find one of the board favorites at an apartment. Sleep, then fly home, be happy for two days, then fret about arranging my next 'business' trip.

Of course, plans always change.

In response to AllIWantIsLove's question about the HTML defining the website
[url]http://www.area-vip.com.ar/area/area-vip.htm[/url]

The source you found on the top level page refer to the following parts of the page:
titulo.htm: the "title" along the top of the page
menu.htm: the menu bar down the left hand side
menu2.htm: the spinning AV below Buenos Airies and the current date

Here's how the HTML works: when you click on a city from the left-hand menu (e.g. "Buenos Aires") a script in menu.htm "swaps" the image (via one of the predefined javascript functions) with the image in frame "3" which is what you call "the main part of the window" (where the spinning AV is originally). You would have to work through the function to see how it generates the file names (non-trivial).

However, I think there is a simpler way to get what you want, which I assume is a reference to all the embedded files. Bring up one of the pages with the thumbnail pictures of the women. The following will vary by browser but I use (and recommend) Firefox from Mozilla: click right over the "main part" and the context menu will include "This Frame" with subcommands "View Frame Source" and "View Frame Info" that will contain what I think you want.

Hardly any of the guys who post on this board have ever done street girls so how the fuck would they know if they are "problematic"? Many have their own opinions based completely on stereotypes and experiences in other places. I don't do street girls too often but I have not had any problems and I have done like maybe 7 or 8 down here. You have to know what you are doing and I would say it is better not to take them to your hotel or apartment until you have gotten to know them. Of course, I always do since I am too much of a Dickhead to pay for a transitorio; that eats up the whole cost savings.

Flame away, boys.

Is is better to pickup a street girl trashed out of your mind ? This way if she is lousy or you are setup for a robbery you might forget that it even took place . Is that how you like to work it ?

Or do you prefer doing it sobber and stupid ?

Those who do choose to pick up street girls can do a few things to limit risk. Have little or no cash on you, then negotiate price, then tell her to wait, then get the agreed on amount out of the ATM. Do not use the hotel she suggests but rather any other one. Don't pay up front. Then if she robs you, all she robs you of is pussy anyway. If you do take her to your hotel, consider switching rooms or even hotels the next day. And use your condoms and not hers which could be old or dried out. Ask to see her documento.

Usually if I do a street girl, it's one I've seen walking around two or three times or more, and have talked to her a couple of times. The Magic Wall is good for this, as is the famous doorway on Florida and Paraguay.

For those leaving home at the end of week to get here, you need to be aware that Sundays are not a good day at the clubs. If you can get a night flight on Friday that gets in on Saturday morning, you could manage a reasonably good night on Saturday and use Sunday as your recovery day. I have done this before elsewhere and it can work. Anyone taking a Saturday flight will only be able to start enjoying the club scene from Monday as it starts getting better eventually reaching its peak on Thursdays. The clubs are open and it is probably the quietest day. You can be lucky even on a Sunday. Depends who you meet.

I went to the San Telmo market for an hour or so on Sunday. Worth it if you haven´t been there before. In the evening I just poked my head into Madahos. I had one drink and left alone.

Going out every day can become tiring and repetitive. There is always an underlying need to make every day of the vacation count. I am more of a quality guy than a quantity guy. I am not keeping a tally of how many I have had. It doesn´t matter in my view. All that matters to me is the totality of the experience.

Also, going out every day invariably ends up with 3 or 4 or 5 drinks each evening. All this will take its toll.

I am happy to rest up a bit.