2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424562]Snake, what total be / s, Obama has not released anything. While his voting record is public everything else is still sealed.

The public knows almost everything beginning with his birth to present about Romney.

The public knows almost nothing about Obama because its SEALED except for his books which are proving to be a mix of lies and invention.

Obama is not running on his record that's for damn sure because it's so bad.

If all he can say is "we are moving in the right direction" after 5 trillion in spending, a stagnant economy, a shrinking workforce and unemployment still above 8% only proves he is a freaking idiot.

I'm waiting for the Labor Dept to declare another reduction in first unemployment claims and for the unemployment rate to fall below 8% even thought the very definition of growth precludes such events occurring when GDP growth is below 3% much less 1. 5%

Obama is a fraud at best.[/QUOTE]I thought they would be an interesting read. I don't care whether or not he is baptized. What I found is that Romney graduated summa cum laude and Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. Usually when you graduate with honors from somewhere they publish your name in the graduation program. So Romney is definitely either smarter or a harder worker or both.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424563]Why do you and the other Romneyphiles in this thread fail to acknowledge that your candidate very likely engaged in (now) ILLEGAL tax avoidance schemes and HID his money overseas in an action that DEFRAUDS the US government of its rightfully owed revenue?[/QUOTE]Obviously you are just poor trailer trash dude. Please pay attention! When you have Romney's kind of money (self-made I might add) , there is absolutely NO UPSIDE to the type of activity you elude to in your goofy post. Ignorant and stupid is no way to go through life fella. Oh, I forgot. You are just a liberal political shill anyway. Better to be thought a fool SnakeBoy and remain silent, than open your mouth and remove all doubt. IALOTFLMAO! Tick Tick Tick. Happy Mongering All but SnakeBoy. He has little game and should hunt pussy in chicago! LOL. Toymann

Let me get this straight. Romney graduated summa cum laude from Harvard Law School, was exceptionally, or should I say really exceptionally successful in the business world, was elected governor of the most liberal state in the union and as governor respected and worked with the opposition party, single handedly saved the 2002 Winter Olympics from a total meltdown and had tax accountants who understood the complexities and vagueness of our ridiculous tax system.

Why does Romney sound like Secretariat while Obama sounds like a donkey?

[QUOTE=Toymann;424567]Obviously you are just poor trailer trash dude. Please pay attention! When you have Romney's kind of money (self-made I might add) , there is absolutely NO UPSIDE to the type of activity you elude to in your goofy post. Ignorant and stupid is no way to go through life fella. Oh, I forgot. You are just a liberal political shill anyway. Better to be thought a fool SnakeBoy and remain silent, than open your mouth and remove all doubt. IALOTFLMAO! Tick Tick Tick. Happy Mongering All but SnakeBoy. He has little game and should hunt pussy in chicago! LOL. Toymann[/QUOTE]More name calling and personal attacks from the thread's top Ignoramous, Mr Toymann himself. Toymann wants everyone in the USA except for him to work at Wal-Mart or Burger King for $9 / hour. If you actually did some research and payed attention once in awhile Romney himself has admitted that he has / had off shore bank accounts in both Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. He also admitted to closing the Swiss bank account in 2009, at the same time Switzerland began to roll over on it's US clients and the IRS offered an tax dodger amnesty. The accounting community is now leaking information that Romney engaged in (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes AND participated in the amnesty, which is why Romney REFUSES to release pre-2010 tax returns.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424570]More name calling and personal attacks from the thread's top Ignoramous, Mr Toymann himself. Toymann wants everyone in the USA except for him to work at Wal-Mart or Burger King for $9 / hour. If you actually did some research and payed attention once in awhile Romney himself has admitted that he has / had off shore bank accounts in both Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.[/QUOTE]All of which are legal activities, so what exactly is your complaint?

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424570]He also admitted to closing the Swiss bank account in 2009, at the same time Switzerland began to roll over on it's US clients and the IRS offered an tax dodger amnesty. The accounting community is now leaking information that Romney engaged in (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes AND participated in the amnesty, which is why Romney REFUSES to release pre-2010 tax returns.[/QUOTE]Pure speculation, without a single shred of evidence, postulated by the leftists and their allies in the media in their attempt to insinuate that these allegations are somehow meritorious.

It does not matter if Snake is an Obama Shill, the whole point of Team Obama's campaign is to get folks talking about totally untrue BS about Romney so they won't start talking about what a idiot Obama is and what a wreck he has made of the economy.

Again Snake, where are Obama's records, don't deflect the question saying no one cares because they do. If the liberal media can attempt to bring up some alleged incident from high school, which was later proved false by the alleged 'victims' family no less, Obama's past is in play as well.

As people do the fact checking on Obama's two books they are finding he took 'literary license', a polite way to say he lied, on many 'facts' in his books. He has misrepresented both himself and his family origins in his books.

I've searched the web to find "the accounting community" leaking information about Romney. First of all there is no "accounting community" when it come to Romney since he has his own accountants / accounting firms to handle his filings and it would be a gross breach of confidentially to do so, but then Team Obama and liberals have never been formally introduced to such concepts as evidenced by the White House Staff leaks of classified information to make Obama look tough.

The economy is chugging along at 1. 5% growth which will not even produce enough jobs to satisfy the number of people just entering the work force much less reduce unemployment . Which takes at least 3+% to get there. Unemployment remains above 8. 2% and at 1. 5% GDP growth should be going higher.

OBAMA BUILT THAT FOR YOU.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424570]The accounting community is now leaking information that Romney engaged in (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes AND participated in the amnesty, which is why Romney REFUSES to release pre-2010 tax returns.[/QUOTE]You must work at a Burger King to come forward with this golden nugget! IALOTFLMAO dude!

I will continue to kick you around like a silly ***** as long as you continue these types of fabrications, distortions and just plain old fashioned lies. Most of the fellas on this thread aren't that stupid fella. That said, keep the crazy stuff coming. The entertainment value is prices!"Accounting community"? Just about pissed myself laughing about that one. It is certainly obvious to me that your profession resume doesn't extend much longer than "just graduated highschool" and "it only took me 6 years"! LMAO. Happy Mongering All. Toymann

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;424585]It does not matter if Snake is an Obama Shill, the whole point of Team Obama's campaign is to get folks talking about totally untrue BS about Romney so they won't start talking about what a idiot Obama is and what a wreck he has made of the economy.[/QUOTE]Obama is trying to rip Romney a new asshole. Duh yeah. Thanks for the information Doppelganger. Relax. Romney will pull ahead after the Republican convention in late August or early September when he starts laying out his plan. You will hear nothing but bullshit until then. The tax bullshit plays to the uneducated Democrats. The college transcripts play to the uneducated Republicans.

It is just like the Clintons and Whitewater. The story played to people without money. Most people with money have had a business deal go sour on them in their lifetime and that is what Whitewater was.

[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424585]It does not matter if Snake is an Obama Shill, the whole point of Team Obama's campaign is to get folks talking about totally untrue BS about Romney so they won't start talking about what a idiot Obama is and what a wreck he has made of the economy.

Again Snake, where are Obama's records, don't deflect the question saying no one cares because they do. If the liberal media can attempt to bring up some alleged incident from high school, which was later proved false by the alleged 'victims' family no less, Obama's past is in play as well.

As people do the fact checking on Obama's two books they are finding he took 'literary license', a polite way to say he lied, on many 'facts' in his books. He has misrepresented both himself and his family origins in his books.

I've searched the web to find "the accounting community" leaking information about Romney. First of all there is no "accounting community" when it come to Romney since he has his own accountants / accounting firms to handle his filings and it would be a gross breach of confidentially to do so, but then Team Obama and liberals have never been formally introduced to such concepts as evidenced by the White House Staff leaks of classified information to make Obama look tough.

The economy is chugging along at 1. 5% growth which will not even produce enough jobs to satisfy the number of people just entering the work force much less reduce unemployment. Which takes at least 3+% to get there. Unemployment remains above 8. 2% and at 1. 5% GDP growth should be going higher.

OBAMA BUILT THAT FOR YOU.[/QUOTE]The accounting community I am referring to are the private conversations I have had with upper level CPA's currently and formerly employed by Ernst and Young, Deloitte, and others. The oligarchs on this thread might dismiss this issue is being talked about all over the internet.

[url]http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts[/url]

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/mitt-romneys-offshore-tax-accounts_n_1686742.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jackson; 424573]All of which are legal activities, so what exactly is your complaint?

Pure speculation, without a single shred of evidence, postulated by the leftists and their allies in the media in their attempt to insinuate that these allegations are somehow meritorious.[/QUOTE]The point is that these are shady and deceptive tactics used to defraud the US Treasury out of millions of dollars; tactics that are unfitting for a man who claims he loves the USA so much that he aspires to be POTUS and he obviously shows this by paying as little as possible through (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes, keeping his money in non-American banks, and betting against the currency of the nation he aspires to lead. Offshore bank accounts, tax avoidance schemes, currency hedges, etc are perfectly fine for you, me and Gordon Gekko to utilize, but none of us are ever going to be POTUS.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424570]More name calling and personal attacks from the thread's top Ignoramous, Mr Toymann himself. Toymann wants everyone in the USA except for him to work at Wal-Mart or Burger King for $9 / hour. If you actually did some research and payed attention once in awhile Romney himself has admitted that he has / had off shore bank accounts in both Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. He also admitted to closing the Swiss bank account in 2009, at the same time Switzerland began to roll over on it's US clients and the IRS offered an tax dodger amnesty. The accounting community is now leaking information that Romney engaged in (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes AND participated in the amnesty, which is why Romney REFUSES to release pre-2010 tax returns.[/QUOTE]The United States Congress and the IRS in their magnificent wisdom have passed and implemented laws such that tax exempt USA institutions, like pension funds, may only invest in foreign private equity and hedge funds. In addition, most foreign investors will not invest in U.S. funds because they would have to comply with the ridiculously complex U.S. tax code.

USA fund managers can defer personal income tax by channeling their management and performance fees from these foreign funds through places like the Cayman Islands. This is the way the business works. George Soros and many other Democrats have taken advantage of it. Democrat politicians, like Chuck Schumer until recently, have fought tooth and nail to keep this system in place. It's probably why Romney has accounts in the Cayman Islands. EVERYBODY DOES THIS, fund managers who are Democrats and fund managers who are Republicans.

I know someone who participated in the "tax dodger amnesty" you refer to. He had a bank account in Canada for several years that had a maximum account balance of about $11, 000. He failed to report the account and the interest income to the IRS. He underpaid his taxes by $6. 00. The IRS fined him $3, 000, and he paid twice that in legal and accounting bills.

If Romney had participated in voluntary disclosure, that would have undoubtedly been leaked by the Obama administration by now. Maybe he hasn't released his returns because he doesn't want Democrat nut cases poring over his returns trying to find where his accountant screwed up. Given the size and complexity of the USA tax code, anyone preparing a return as complicated as Romney's is going to screw up.

I'm afraid to even contribute to Romney's campaign. This is the kind of thing that happens to people who do:

[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444464304577537233908744496.html[/url]

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424590]The accounting community I am referring to are the private conversations I have had with upper level CPA's currently and formerly employed by Ernst and Young, Deloitte, and others.[/QUOTE]IALOTFLMAO! Based on your past posts there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that YOU would be having conversations with upper level CPA's from well known firms, around the water cooler I'm guessing. Keep the blather coming SnakeBoy! You are getting better with each post. I should start a survey with the membership on the chances of anyone believing you have even had a single conversation with a CPA at all, in your entire sad deluded life! LOL! However, I already know the results of said poll. Keep the material coming dude. It's all good. Toymann.

Ps. Whats next SnakeBoy, you'll be reporting that you are having an affair with Ann Romney and she told you over some pillow talk that her husband is a travesti! LMAO

[QUOTE=Toymann; 424588]You must work at a Burger King to come forward with this golden nugget! IALOTFLMAO dude!

I will continue to kick you around like a silly * as long as you continue these types of fabrications, distortions and just plain old fashioned lies. Most of the fellas on this thread aren't that stupid fella. That said, keep the crazy stuff coming. The entertainment value is prices!"Accounting community"? Just about pissed myself laughing about that one. It is certainly obvious to me that your profession resume doesn't extend much longer than "just graduated highschool" and "it only took me 6 years"! LMAO. Happy Mongering All. Toymann[/QUOTE]There are a lot of professional, and other,"communities" in the USA. The dues paying members of the professional "communities" are represented by organizations such as the AICPA, ABA, AMA, SNAME, etc, etc. These "communities" talk among themselves, go to conventions, have trade publications, etc, etc. Are the posters on this board that obtuse?

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[QUOTE=Toymann; 424588]You must work at a Burger King to come forward with this golden nugget! IALOTFLMAO dude!

I will continue to kick you around like a silly * as long as you continue these types of fabrications, distortions and just plain old fashioned lies. Most of the fellas on this thread aren't that stupid fella. That said, keep the crazy stuff coming. The entertainment value is prices!"Accounting community"? Just about pissed myself laughing about that one. It is certainly obvious to me that your profession resume doesn't extend much longer than "just graduated highschool" and "it only took me 6 years"! LMAO. Happy Mongering All. Toymann[/QUOTE]Yes, you are absolutely correct in that I have been working at Burger King since the age of 16 and have continued my long and distinguished career at BK even after I obtained my GED at the age of 27. The excellent pay, $9 / hour, affords me the luxury of flying to Buenos Aires in J where I spend about half the year at my other career, which is managing and directing a unit of motorcycle based Colombian sicarios whose primary work includes torturing, carving up and decapitating contracted targets at my command and for relatively little compensation (by US standards). Generally the contracted targets are mid-level dealers who didn't pay up but lately the prey has grown to include gringos who bring large sums of US cash to Buenos Aires as a way of beating the official exchange rate. Ironically, and perhaps not surprisingly, it is the "cueva" owners themselves who have become our biggest clients.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424595]Yes, you are absolutely correct in that I have been working at Burger King since the age of 16 and have continued my long and distinguished career at BK even after I obtained my GED at the age of 27. The excellent pay, $9 / hour, affords me the luxury of flying to Buenos Aires in J where I spend about half the year at my other career, which is managing and directing a unit of motorcycle based Colombian sicarios whose primary work includes torturing, carving up and decapitating contracted targets at my command and for relatively little compensation (by US standards). Generally the contracted targets are mid-level dealers who didn't pay up but lately the prey has grown to include gringos who bring large sums of US cash to Buenos Aires as a way of beating the official exchange rate. Ironically, and perhaps not surprisingly, it is the "cueva" owners themselves who have become our biggest clients.[/QUOTE]Good one SnakeBoy. That was pretty funny. Glad you have a sense of humor. This is a trait rarely found in wild-ass liberals. There might be hope for you yet, BUT I DOUBT IT! LOL. Happy Mongering All. Toymann