Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

Hey guys. I just got off the phone with a chica from Buenos Aires. She called me in a panic asking me about "the internet". I guess one dude named "Eric" emailed her and told her that he saw all these pictures of her on an internet site. She barely knows the dude but he had her email address and he probably thought he could score a better session with her the next time he is in Buenos Aires.

Guys do NOT be stupid!!!! NEVER tell the girls about these sites. NEVER tell the girls you read about them, saw their pictures, etc. You are NOT helping any of us by doing this. You are NOT scoring any points with them. I'm probably gonna stop posting names of girls I see because of morons like this "Eric" dude.

So now not only is this girl freaked out but she is telling all her friends that work in the clubs NOT to let guys take ANY pictures of them because they will end up on the internet. Guys, have some loyalty to your fellow 'brothers'. I've made tons of friends with the girls of the clubs but I never tell them about what I read about them or pictures I see.

Use your brains.

What an unbelievably stupid thing to do. There were already enough girls that shied away from the camera. This will make me think twice about posting any pictures in the future.

EZE :(

Jackson, obviously you have had some problem with Blacks in the past. accusations such as the one you made show not only how ignorant you are, but how shallow your mind is. Just because I disagree with you, doesnt mean you have the right to insult me. I know more about Argentina than you ever will. I will come and go as i please. and i will pay whatever price i think is fair.

Your comments about how Argentine women respect you more if you negotiate is laughable. If you are looking for respect from an escort, maybe you should reevaluate your life.

? on web sites. Some look definitely fake. If I don't see any of the women, like Indiana, who are on numerous sites, I get very suspicious. Some sites have a lot of the regulars, but I still have my doubts. Has anyone used the services of a woman, where she was one of two women on the same site that had the same telephone number? In this case the site is attencion digital.

RB1. I don't know if you are aware of the fact, but this is Jackson's website. He could remove your posts if he so chose, but he has left them up. That is not the action of an ignorant person with a shallow mind. Jackson did not post that paying more than the market rate makes you an idiot, but that the women would perceive you as a sucker (idiot.) In addition, several others have posted similar experiences about Blacks. I noticed that some who had wonderful trips, had their worst experiences at Blacks. They didn't specifically mention it, but it was clear in their descriptions of the sessions with the women.

Most of us are looking for a gfe. Some mutual respect is necessary for that to happen. If you cannot see that these women are also human beings, deserving of the same respect as any other person, it is you who has problems.

i really dont care if this is his website or not. if he chooses to remove me so be it. I didnt state anything other than what i believe and what i experienced. Isnt that what a forum is for?

Where in my posts have i disrespected the women? please enlighten me.


you can choose to believe I am an idiot for going to blacks. thats your choice and jackson's as well. dont insult me for it and certainly dont make up lies about my intentions.

I will say one last thing. You gentleman have no idea how lucky you are to be able to get what you are getting for the prices you are paying. Believe me it wont last forever. Many of the girls know how much they can make in the US, Mexico, Europe etc etc.

Peace

[blue]I was all set to apoligize to RB1 for calling him an idiot, because it's never been my intention to personally insult any fellow member of this forum, but in reviewing my responses to his posts I couldn't find the word used even once.

I continue to maintain my opinion that Blacks is a tourist trap. No, I've never had a bad experinece there, largely because the chicas's attitudes have turned me off so many times that I've never been motivated to pull one out of the place.

RB1's last two posts add nothing in the way of practical information to the forum. Therefor, after a week or so in which everyone may read them, I will delete them.

Jackson[/blue]

jackson, maybe i read it wrong but here it is:

your words:

"Fifth, the biggest thing that turns me off about Blacks is the fact that simply because I'm a Norte Americano in Blacks, the same girl that would reaidly accept 200 pesos elsewhere, wants to play me for an idiot by asking for $300 USD. Attitude does count, and it's pretty hard to be "man and woman" if they're playing the "stupid foreigner and smart chica" game.

Here is some info for those who may be interested. the chicas at blacks were asking 150-200 dollars. i negotiated to paid 150 dollars for an all nite on 2 seperate occasions. is that too much? for me its a gift. another night i went to playwoman and paid 200 pesos for an all niter. you know what? price had nothing to do with the service i received. its all about how you click with the girl.

At blacks, the girls will not approach you, i like that. at playwoman and at solid gold, they are all over you the minute you walk in the door. i dont like that.

peace and hopefully no hard feelings.

[blue]The above quote was NOT addressed to you, and was NOT in a direct response to any posting made by you, and that's my point! In addition, the quote written by me specifically says "wants to play [i]me[/i] for an idiot". I don't see how anything therein could possibly have been construed as an insult to you.

Yes, in my opinion, 550 pesos would be paying too much for an all night session. I typically expect to pay 300-400 pesos, and that means all the sex I can muster until noon the next day, none of this leaving at 6am crap. Still, this is just [i]my opinion[/i].

Your statement "price had nothing to do with the service i received. its all about how you click with the girl." only reinforces my point that there is at best only a causal correlation between price and service.

You're right in your observation that the chicas in Blacks are under instructions not to approach you unless beckoned, although they are undoubtedly the most "on parade" chicas I've ever seen, and to me it's so obvious and repetitive that I find it annoying. Personally, I prefer that they either sit quietly or simply dance on the dance floor.

Your observations about some of the other clubs is accurate, but there are other clubs where the girls are also under instructions not to leave you alone unless beckoned. Personally, I've learned to tell the girls that approach me that I think that they are attractive, but I like to see all the girls and then make my choice later. No big deal. In addition, I also know that I've been in many of the places enough times that the girls already know that they'd be wasting their time because I'm going to make my own selection.

Jackson[/blue]

You are right Jackson. Get over it rb1

LMAO.... I could only expect an argument like this from a person who doesn't care about the costs. dammit, your an idiot!!!
1. For overpaying. And claiming I'm the IMF, price means nothing to me.
2. For keeping up such a bullshit argument, in a vain attempt of people actually taking your obnoxious side.

If the money means nothing to you. Why not do what my uncle does(he does it because he doesn't leave his desk, not obnoxious), Import them!! In fact you can bring women from all over the world to your doorstep. Search the escort sites..read the reviews on this forum..set up the trip thru her agency...Tada, fresh poon at your doorstep, and you can pay them as much as you want. Such an expense should mean nothing for you, so that we can enjoy are mongering destinations trip after trip without being forced to pay the "stupid tax" that you implemented..

i forgot, you all shop the kmart bluelight specials as well.

Thanksgiving Dinner set for Friday, November 28th @ 9 PM.


I'm kind of "wow'ed" by the tremendous response to my invitation for dinner during Thanksgiving. In two days I have about 8-10 guys that have already RSVP'ed. To give each of those arriving a little later in the week a chance to make it I have made reservations for 9 PM on Friday, November 28th. Those that RSVP'ed have been emailed the name of the restaurant and the details of this meeting. I'm not posting publically due to privacy and safety concerns.

The general game plan will be to meet at this restaurant at 9 PM. Some of us will probably meet a little earlier to have some drinks and get to know one another. We'll have a great dinner, dessert and drinks. A good time will be had by all. After dinner we will split up in groups of 3 or so and hit the clubs. Bring your appetites!

If you will be in Buenos Aires and want to be included, email me and I'll add you to the list. Looking forward to seeing some of you again and looking forward to meeting some of you I haven't met.

[email]saintofba@hotmail.com[/email]

I was told by one of the girls at Black, that they will ask Norteamericanos $250 for short time because, and I quote, "it seems that to them that's nothing." So, if that's nothing to you, I say go ahead an pay it, 'cause you are making it easier for her to keep her "managers" happy.


In my trip I found that Playwomen had the same quality of girls as Black, and they were charging me 200 pesos for short time.

My advice to cash flushed Norteamericanos is to go, on their first night in BA, to Black. Once in Black, look for the prettiest girl that you can find there, take her to a well lit area and make sure she's still pretty, then take her to your room for a short time session paying 100 dollars . That will be your baseline, as it is for me.

Then, on your second night, go to the other clubs in Recoleta so that you can see for yourself that the one thing that Black has going for it is location: it's in front of the Alvear Palace

Since you want to give the women of argentina the gift of overpaying, why stop there, argentineans are very hospitable people, Why not just over pay in every way(hotel, plane ticket, tips, meals etc)In fact since money doesn't mean a thing to you why not, help stabilize their economy, by depositing all your us cash into their government(i've seen the owner of the Sandals chains do it for Jamaica). Since your are SO WEALTHY it shouldn't be a problem. If you pulled that of the government would subsidize your hobby fees so you wouldn't even have to worry about paying for sex again.

Seriously, What do you get out of overpaying. You know that you are overpaying, because you noted it. Is it to show off to fellow mongers, to gain the attention of your girls or is it to take away the guilt from the activity? if it is for any of those reasons, you aren't accomplishing them. I would guess that a man of your stature would never bed the same woman twice, so if overpay after the act what good is it? it doesn't change what just happened, all you did was make her underperform when her next client is only able to give her asking price, all you do is put an idea in her head that if she could get that from you she should get it from everyone else(at least tourists) and even if you do plan to see her again, wouldn't it suit you to follow the veteran hobbiest by giving her a cumulative tip on your last encounter.
Your actions are no different from people who litter highways, you think," oh my little garbage won't dirty the whole highway" See how wrong your approach is? too bad we can't fine you. ciao(pimsleur is working)

rb1. Many guys are convinced that if they are in an upscale environment and pay an inflated price they are purchasing a "quality" product. Some times this is true. I don't mind paying for quality when the product for which I am paying is superior to other products on the market.....Hence, I own a Tag rather than a Timex....I drive a Volvo rather than a Honda....and live in a well appointed, upscale home rather than a cheap apartment.

The key is to be discerning.....sometimes there is a difference when paying more, sometimes not. Even when there is a difference between products at different price points....it is still possible to overpay for a quality product. For example, I bought my Tag for several hundred dollars less than I might otherwise have paid by shopping around. This is called being a smart consumer!

I have been to Blacks several times, usually after having visited other boliches. To me: A. There was little or no difference in quality, other than the fact that most of the chicas in Black seemed older and more "professional" (read: hardened, jaded) than the chicas in Hook or Madahos. B. The prices were higher. Consequently, I choose not to return to Blacks. And if I did take a chica home from this location, I would not pay her asking price....

This having been said, if you are convinced that the chicas in Blacks are superior and worth the extra cost, go for it....but, please, confine your impulse to overpay for what many of us consider at best an average product to Blacks. This boliche is already well known as an overpriced location, so you do the rest of us no harm. But if you venture into other boliches and start paying similar amounts you will have the effect of driving up prices, which does a disservice to every other monger in Buenos Aires.

Let's make a deal....we won't laugh at you for paying inflated prices for an inferior product if you won't refer to the chicas we choose as kmart blue light specials.......Cheap shots don't serve any good, other than to make you feel smugly superior.......

Meanwhile, Thanks , Jackson for posting payment guidelines.....as informed consumers we will be able to make better decisions about what to pay for the chica of our choice.....and FWIW, I was in BA two weeks ago and found your post right on target re:prices.....